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Text from AT&T about 4G

This morning I got this text from AT&T about needing a 4G data plan. I came from an iPhone 4 and bought an Inspire 4G on ebay and just used the same SIM. Does anyone have any suggestions what I should do? I have an unlimited data plan so I don't wanna lose it.
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You need to get a 4G sim card from the AT&T store

Sim card doesn't matter
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@poetofsound,
All you have to do is call AT&T and tell them to switch your plan to a 4G plan. It's the same price as 3G ($15 for 200MB, $25 for 2GB). If you've currently got the iPhone unlimited plan, then you will be grandfathered into the unlimited 4G plan.

is it possible to do that without changing my plan up and would I still be able to switch between iphone and inspire?

poetofsound said:
is it possible to do that without changing my plan up and would I still be able to switch between iphone and inspire?
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Yes, you can just keep the same plan you have now. It's the same plan data-wise and speed-wise; AT&T merely has separate 3G/4G plans in their system, and they've detected that you're using the Inspire instead of an iPhone. No need to change sims or anything, it's merely a technicality in their system.

Alright thanks for the info! I live right down the street from the AT&T store so I'll just go there.

I had a similar problem with ATT that they told me my unlimited plan would not work with the Inspire 4G. I called on the phone and spoke with a manager and she said it would be okay. So, if they keep telling you that you can't do it, just keep at them and they will eventually give in.

I just got a new inspire from ATT.
When I activated the phone, it gave me the 3g plan. I had to call to get it switched to 4g. Is there really any difference in sim card and/or plans other than semantics?

volumnus said:
When I activated the phone, it gave me the 3g plan. I had to call to get it switched to 4g. Is there really any difference in sim card and/or plans other than semantics?
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The plans which ATT claim are 4G are capped plans. You need the Smartphones Personal plan. If you had it on 3G you can get grandfathered in. I'm using a 3G sim in a rural area with just one 3G tower and getting 5mbps down with 1mbps up. The salesman at the shack had to call ATT because the plan is not listed, but I was able to keep it. As long as you are within 30 days of signing the contract you have the right to make them give you your unlimited data back.
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The only reason they tell you that you have to be on the '4G' plan is so they can track usage, and the only reason for the '4G' sim is because that sim is LTE ready- so whenever ATT launches LTE, some phones will be good to go.
The '4G' plan is a load. Currently, ATT's '4G' networks is HSPA+... which is just the true potential of 3G, but not quite real 4G... REAL 4G will not be available on ATT till ATT launches LTE sometime next year...

I read the title to this thread
and had hope that they chose you to text that there really is an LTE chipset in the Inspire....oh never mind

meiguoguizi said:
and had hope that they chose you to text that there really is an LTE chipset in the Inspire....oh never mind
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Haha! Nice! Sorry for the confusion If I do I'll contact you first

When I switched from an iphone to inspire, they also need to change your voicemail configuration. apparently it wasn't all part of a single process for the conversion. what ended up happening was they did not change my voicemail over and I was unable to access the voicemail system from my inspire.

Have you check out Youview. Great voicemail for Inspire!

AT&T is a bunch of shady bastids when it comes to data plans, they want to charge you for using their under-performing network so they can not upgrade it some more. But if you keep after them they'll switch you to an unlimited 4G plan, grandfathering crosses over.

[Q] Do you need a LTE SIM to get on the LTE network?

I, like many other switched my i777 to Skyrocket. During that process, I kept the SIM card that came with my i777. But I'm reading somewhere that to get on the LTE network I will need a LTE SIM? Can someone, that got a new SIM while purchasing the Skyrocket, or someone already using the LTE network pop open the back cover, and compare it to the picture below? I want to be ready as soon as the LTE comes alive in my area, Los Angeles.
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Edit:
I found a article online that confirms that this design is the LTE SIM card.
http://gadgetsteria.com/2010/10/21/lte-sim-cards-coming-to-att/

I have a different SIM card than the one you have in the picture. It's the same basic graphic, but mine is green and had LTE written on the outside surrounding area before they snapped off the sim card.
I'd also call AT&T to get an LTE data plan, they are the same price. I think by getting the LTE data plan you also get access to visual voicemail on the phone.

While I don't have an LTE plan just yet, I did get an LTE Sim as suggested if I plan on getting it her in Canada
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It's not so much the SIM as it is the location of the customer data. Read up on LTE Subscriber Profile....

As I and others have confirmed...your old sim will connect to lte currently. Recently a few reps have claimed that as of 11-18 that will not be the case. Any LTe phone with an old sim will not connect at all.
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You need a Sim card with the 9th and 10th digits 25

This sim gives me LTE no problem. Has been working in Los Angeles since day 1 when they switched it on.
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Hi all, what is the final verdict as I have a vivid that is LTE capable but a sim that is unlimited but is from my old galaxy s2 so it is not officially a LTE sim...will the old sim pick up the LTE service?

maddie01 said:
Hi all, what is the final verdict as I have a vivid that is LTE capable but a sim that is unlimited but is from my old galaxy s2 so it is not officially a LTE sim...will the old sim pick up the LTE service?
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The first thing that you have to do, is contact your carrier & tell them to change your data to LTE! If you don't.. You could have ALL the LTE hardware on the planet... You still won't have LTE!
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Thanks very much for the reply...now since I am already paying for an unlimited data plan I hope they just swap the sim card for me as I have a corp account so I cannot increase the cost, but I assume the carrier wants to offload as many users to the LTE system to take pressure off the HSPA+ system and I am already on the highest cost unlimited plan....

The cost for rogers lte vs non lte is the same.. Don't know about your plan, but I imagine that it would be the same.
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LTE to work on Vivid
Okay, I really appreciate the replies, I will hit an ATT store after this week as I an traveling outside LTE network anyway...will try corp store first then non corp store and post what results are.....thanks again!!

maddie01 said:
Thanks very much for the reply...now since I am already paying for an unlimited data plan I hope they just swap the sim card for me as I have a corp account so I cannot increase the cost, but I assume the carrier wants to offload as many users to the LTE system to take pressure off the HSPA+ system and I am already on the highest cost unlimited plan....
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Blaze showing that I'm connected to "AT&T"

Does anyone else have this sort of issue using T-Mobile? My Blaze is showing that its connected to "AT&T", rather than T-Mobile. No, my phone is not unlocked, nor do I have an AT&T SIM card, or the service. If I enable 3G/4G, the icon will not appear, and data won't function.
This has also happened a few times with my old T-Mo phone, the HTC G2. Its very annoying, because I can't use my service. Seems to be happening quite often with my Blaze, which has prompt me to create this topic for answers, hopefully. So if you've noticed this too, and have an explanation and/or fix, please reply.
Thanks.
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I have that happen to me when T-Mo isn't available and AT&T is. That's what happens when you roam on their network. More often this happens in my house as AT&T has better signal penetration.

I don't get good signal at my house either. Mostly EDGE with 1 or 2 bars. Sometimes though, 3G or 4G.
Um.. also, I have Data Roaming set to off, all the time.
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Voice roaming and data roaming are two different entities, if I'm not mistaken. Blocking data roaming will do only that.

So, my phone is basically "voice roaming"? I don't know too much about roaming, other than the fact that I think it allows you to use your device on someone else's network with your T-Mobile SIM, right? And if you do that, the bill is generally more expensive? Anyway, if this is whole situation is completely normal, then I guess I'm done.. still, I find it annoying.
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Tmobile has a deal with att in areas where tmobile has no service you are technically roaming on att towers but your and still paying normal rates. I was worried about my vacation where I had no coverage and att was a partner carrier and service still worked. confirmed by tmobile rep when I inquired about it. so it can happen from time to time

No voice roaming fee- check settings
There's no such thing as any kind of voice roaming charge. If you lose your T-Mo coverage and there's an AT&T tower that T-Mo shares with AT&T (they both often share where there is little population to maintain service in those areas) then once you get back into T-Mo coverage your phone should automatically switch back to T-Mo. You can also select the network manually to the T-Mo network by going to Settings>Wireless and Network>Mobile Networks>Network Operators>Search Now. IF T-Mo shows up then tap T-Mo (wait up to 5 minutes) and volia! You will be back on T-Mo's network and data will be enabled again. You could also just turn off the phone and turn it back on (if I'm not mistaken the phone will select the network automatically). I always run into this when travelling back to Indiana for the holidays when I go through Wisconsin.
EDIT: Domestic data roaming is free but you have a tiny data cap defined here: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-3299
So it is in fact safe to turn on data roaming. But 10-50 Megs will be burned up fast.

Wow.. so basically, my phone was only just roaming... I'm such a newb..
Thanks for the clarificatons. Yeah, I was restarting my device to get it back onto T-Mobile. I'll try that way you mentioned.
Topic resolved.
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What's really fun is when you are in the middle of nowhere and end up on network 110 426
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4g

I'm with T-Mobile, the phone I have is obvious, my question is my phone bounces from 3g to H. From my understanding H stands for HSDPA which is the equivilant to 4g. The plan I'm currently on normally says I have like 2gigs of 4g then I'm back to 3g. So when the I get the H by my phone signal does it mean I'm actually on 4g? The reason I'm asking is because I wanted to get the unlimited 4g plan but it wouldn't make since if my phone already sometimes get it. Oh yea and I'm cm10 4.1.2 with whatever modem comes with it. Also does flashing diff modems give a better signal of whatever you get or could it upgrade your 3g to 4g?

Reception varies from areas and each modem is better in one area than in another, you can try them all and get a speed test and see which one is better. Also you can't measure signal. The CM based ROM or ones like it change to 3G to save battery or something, but when you use data it changes to 4G if available but this phone is mostly on 2G or Edge and 4G or H.
Hope that helps.Sorry for my bad English.

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Reception varies from areas and each modem is better in one area than in another, you can try them all and get a speed test and see which one is better. Also you can't measure signal. The CM based ROM or ones like it change to 3G to save battery or something, but when you use data it changes to 4G if available but this phone is mostly on 2G or Edge and 4G or H.
Hope that helps.Sorry for my bad English.
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So should I keep my current unlimited 3g plan which seems to get 4g anyway or should I switch to unlimited 4g? And for the speed test is it an app or website?

There is a speed test app on the play store.
I think in ICS and later, the phone idles at 3G and goes to 4G when ou need the speed.

getochkn said:
There is a speed test app on the play store.
I think in ICS and later, the phone idles at 3G and goes to 4G when ou need the speed.
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So in your opinion get unlimited 4g would be a waste of money?

You need to realize that T-Mobile and Att don't have real 4G. It is really just a beefed up 3G, and they called it 4G for marketing purposes. The real deal here is the new LTE, which T-Mobile will be rolling out this week. Even with LTE technology, it is not even up to the speed of true 4G.
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This good or bad?

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You need to realize that T-Mobile and Att don't have real 4G. It is really just a beefed up 3G, and they called it 4G for marketing purposes. The real deal here is the new LTE, which T-Mobile will be rolling out next year.
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Lol, the more questions get answered the more questions I have....... I pay 50 a month for 3g right and was thinking bout switching to "4g" for 70 dollars which isn't even 4g. So the modems that the devs put out on this website could potentially do what this so called "4g" does?

I wouldn't worry too much with 3G. Most of the time it would be on HSPA+. So really when you buy 4G on T-Mobile network, it is really running on hspa+, which now comes as standard. Like I said, it is a marketing scheme to take advantage of the common people.
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gizmoscoop said:
I wouldn't worry too much with 3G. Most of the time it would be on HSPA+. So really when you buy 4G on T-Mobile network, it is really running on hspa+, which now comes as standard. Like I said, it is a marketing scheme to take advantage of the common people.
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OK. Thanks for your help

Ignore the 3G/4G naming convention on the Ads, they mean nothing! Your phone will auto switch depending on area. For TMO, data is data & the rest is marketing gimick
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LTE Speed often <1mbps - RMA and replacement is worse!

So I've had Nexus 5 since last November - ordered on the day they became available.
Ever since I've had it, my LTE speeds have been horrible, and data in general has not been very good. I live & use mostly in urban core of Honolulu, and thought in part problem may have been that I was using Straight Talk on AT&T.
I could go into AT&T store - which isn't far from where I live - and the phones in the store from Samsung, etc., (no N5s there) would be getting 17mbps down or so while my Nexus 5 on Straight Talk/AT&T would be lucky to get over 1 mbps! I travel to continental US both urban and rural areas and pretty much the same dismal speeds. Every now and then I might see 5 6 or once even 7mbps downstream. Usually upstream on speedtest (Ookla) would be higher than down - 5mbps or higher.
So, I switched to AT&T gophone expecting to see better - but no - speedtests basically the same dismal speeds.
Go into AT&T store - compare to other phones - dismal on N5 vs stellar on the store phones.
They even let me put a SIM card from a display phone in my N5 - dismal LTE.
So, I think it must be my phone, and I get an RMA replacement this week.
With much anticipation, I unbox the new N5, don't do anything other than establish an account, download speedtest and pop the SIM in - boy does my balloon burst - the speed is WORSE than the one I did before switching the SIM!: 1.42mbps down, 2.31mbps up on the new N5 vs 2.16 down 2.26up on the old N5. And changing servers just made it worse. (See screenshot)
I set the new N5 to 3G - get HSPA and speedtest result is 7.90 down/1.09 up.
WTF!
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I just don't get it. Is there something about me, the TWO N5s I have, or what? Or, is the N5 just bad on [some] LTE?
My status page shows pretty strong signal on the awful speedtest - -79dbm/61asu.
On positive note, I do think in actual browsing/use, the phone is faster with native AT&T/gophone vs straight talk as it doesn't have to use Tracfone's proxy server (in Florida i think). But there just is something wrong with these LTE speeds....
I also tried 4GMark speetest and benchmark and it's pretty dismal -> download 0.41Mbps / Upload 4.17Mbps.
Anyone have any ideas for me?

How bout them radios.

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How bout them radios.
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Well, I can mention that the replacement came with KK 4.4.2 and radio ...25.0.23. The speedtests above run with that radio. Then, updated OTA to 4.4.3 and radio got updated to ...50.1.13, which didn't make any difference in LTE speed. Then a 2nd update took the new phone to ...50.1.16 and 4.4.4 and still pathetic speed.
My original N5 from Nov'13 has had every radio known to this model and sucky LTE with every single one.

Which APN? I find it weird because I have Cricket which uses AT&T towers now and I get sometimes 8Mb down if I'm in a good signal area, so I know it is possible.
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grab a tmobile micro sim from someone, and see if tmobile is the same or not. it could just be a local att issue.

Your account must not be provisioned correctly for LTE. And the APN you have selected may be incorrect. Check both of these.

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Your account must not be provisioned correctly for LTE. And the APN you have selected may be incorrect. Check both of these.
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Not the case. LTE shows up in the status bar. LTE shows in Settings/About Phone/Status -> Mobile Network Type
The APN is correct - "phone"

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grab a tmobile micro sim from someone, and see if tmobile is the same or not. it could just be a local att issue.
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I will try and do that when I get a chance.
If it were a local AT&T issue as opposed to a NEXUS5 phone issue, one would think the same SIM in another [Samsung] phone at AT&T store doing a speed test within a minute of each other would not be getting 10 times the throughput.

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Not the case. LTE shows up in the status bar. LTE shows in Settings/About Phone/Status -> Mobile Network Type
The APN is correct - "phone"
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As an example on HSPA my previous phone wouldn't speed test correctly. 0.1 Mbps was always the speed. Yet the status bar shows H and about>phone shows HSPA. And my APN was correct at Phone.
But ATT didn't have my account provisioned correctly on their end, in their system.
So it could easily be that your account isn't provisioned correctly by the carrier.