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[Q] Display readable in sunlight?

To the lucky ones who received their Sensation... I've a Desire Z for the moment and would like to buy a second one, focusing on the Sensation.
I've been hating not being able to read my display in sunlight, far away of what I saw on ithings, even with full bright display settings.
Is it the same on the Sensation? if so, I might look for another phone (Galaxy S2?) because I can't tolerate it anymore :-(

The Sensation ain't gonna be much different than other LCDs, like the Desire Z. The SGS2 might have an edge since the glass is thinner (less glare) and the contrast can be bumped very high. However, if you really want a good outdoor display, you might wanna just get the Optimus Black since it has a 700 nit LCD. It falls a bit short on specs but it is very slim and light.

silverwolf0 said:
The Sensation ain't gonna be much different than other LCDs, like the Desire Z. The SGS2 might have an edge since the glass is thinner (less glare) and the contrast can be bumped very high. However, if you really want a good outdoor display, you might wanna just get the Optimus Black since it has a 700 nit LCD. It falls a bit short on specs but it is very slim and light.
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Super LCD can be readable in the sun depends on who makes it if you read engadget flyer review the tablet was readable in the sun.
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Never said LCDs were unreadable.

I've just put my HTC Sensation in direct sunlight, and the screen is very readable. Much better than my HTC Desire AMOLED ever was, in fact. I tried to take a photo to show you all, but it came out very badly. The surface of the screen is a lot "glossier" than the Desire's, but it must be able to reach a higher brightness level.

great to know thanks alot... im tired of not being able to see in direct sunlight with my super amoled galaxy s

Is your galaxy s on CM7? That's the only easy I can see you not being able to read this screen in direct light. Speaking from experience when I flashed CM7, that was the ONLY time my screen appeared dim.
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no i have the s 4g.... and i am very pissed with this phone cant wait until june 8th to get my sensation and give away this phone i cant stand much longer then to talk about how the gps literally had me driving in circles and lost... i was tempted to toss it out the window

I think it can.
I canot speak English very well . and please understand me.thanks!

Sensation screen is very readable under direct sunlight

boostedb16b said:
no i have the s 4g.... and i am very pissed with this phone cant wait until june 8th to get my sensation and give away this phone i cant stand much longer then to talk about how the gps literally had me driving in circles and lost... i was tempted to toss it out the window
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Calm down maybe we can get you interested in SGII? Hahaha j/k
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sjgore said:
I've just put my HTC Sensation in direct sunlight, and the screen is very readable. Much better than my HTC Desire AMOLED ever was, in fact. I tried to take a photo to show you all, but it came out very badly. The surface of the screen is a lot "glossier" than the Desire's, but it must be able to reach a higher brightness level.
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Good to know, thank you! I may now reconsider staying with HTC

It's not relevant in UK, we don't get enough sun here anyway.
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epsix said:
Calm down maybe we can get you interested in SGII? Hahaha j/k
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i honestly will not buy another samsung phone... i tried to trick my co worker into trading my sgs4g for his myt4g and he was like yea at first then he was like lets switch simcards and see how it goes after he felt how light the phone was in comparison he was like oh hells no... and he is not into tech and stuff like that.. but he sure as hell knew what quality felt like compared to light toy feeling junk.

As I understood from reviews out there, the Sensation screen is a step forward under sunlight compared to Desire and DHD but still behind Arc and SGS2.
With my DHD I can read the screen with the 9am sun but not with the noon sun (perhaps more UVs?) I wonder if the Sensation will perform better in both scenes!
IF yes then I hope the speaker will be at least 2x more powerfull than the tweaked DHD one (custom kernel) and my choice is made for the Sensation

When I first got my sensation, I was one of the ones that complained about the screen in bright sunlight.
I've just been out today (it's very sunny ) and it's much better, very readable in fact.
Probably something to do with me turning 'auto-brightness' on in the last week!

If any of you have upgraded from an HD2, how does the Sensation's screen readability in sunlight compare to the HD2? I have an HD2 and it's pretty much completely washed out in direct sunlight.

Question about the screen S4G

Good day fellas,
I'm seeing a lot of video and comments on screen comparisons between Htc sensation 4G and Gs 2 and on.
My question is, I'm currently on SG 1 looking to upgrade to either sensation 4G or GS2, I'm concerned about the screen quality, I'm debating wether I should order the phone or not. I can get it at a very low price (employee pricing).
The phone has a higher res. Screen, I'm trying to convince myself that the difference in screen quality is not that big, but I would like you guys to tell me what you think from your experiences, is the GS2 worth the extra $, is the screen really that much better than the S4G, anything else from your point of view that should be considered???
Thanks in advance,
Rodi
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I bought a sensation, and quite frankly, it is the best phone I have ever had. It is pretty well built, and feels awesome to hold.
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The_Green_Android_Robot said:
I bought a sensation, and quite frankly, it is the best phone I have ever had. It is pretty well built, and feels awesome to hold.
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+1
No screen washout for me, as well.

Also something to add, in almost all the videos comparisons, when looking at the phones side by side the sensation looks practically white in comparison to the gs2. My only concern with the phone is the screen.
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I personally got a Sensation while my GF has a GS2, you can clearly see that both screens aren't the same: one is SLCD & the other is AMOLED.
The GS2 has saturated, neon-ish colors which at some times seem a bit too much, it is particularly notable in the android market: the green is VERY saturated. When put side by side it can make the Sensation seem very washed out.
I have also read on wikipedia that AMOLED displays have a shorter life compared to SLCD because of the organic components in it. The varied lifespan of the organic dyes can cause a discrepancy between red, green, and blue intensity. This leads to image persistence, also known as burn-in.
After a few weeks of use I've got used to my phone and am truly happy about my display, even though it isn't as saturated as the GS2 it still is a great LCD display with rich colors, clear whites & deep blacks and my movies look crystal sharp on it. Also the extra resolution is very much appreciated and is quite notable when I compare it to my GF's GS2, specially in the menus, mails & internet browser - the pixels aren't noticeable.
What I can tell you is that I was faced with the same choice as you: HTC Sensation or SGS2 and the display was also the most important thing for me since it's the way you interact with your phone. And i'm glad I chose the Sensation

Cool thanks for the info, I just ordered it from my work
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Hell yeah.

So..
Today I got a letter, saying after the a mount of repairs you have had, you will know get a white samsung galaxy s2 in exchange for only 25 $ !!!!
So therefor I am saying goodbye to HTC sensation

Dang u get that from tmo
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TheStigx said:
So..
Today I got a letter, saying after the a mount of repairs you have had, you will know get a white samsung galaxy s2 in exchange for only 25 $ !!!!
So therefor I am saying goodbye to HTC sensation
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Yuck. Now all you need is the white Ipad to be complete.
Matt

Naah, it's a danish company Ipad isn't me, asus transformer prime sound more like it

I liked the part where you though it was a good deal...
I know I wouldn't like the GSII to replace my Sensation..

What is the point of this thread?

I have both of them, and i'm using my Sensation while my SGSII is on the shelf, ugly and plastic phone....
the_scotsman said:
I liked the part where you though it was a good deal...
I know I wouldn't like the GSII to replace my Sensation..
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+1 lol

android167 said:
I have both of them, and i'm using my Sensation while my SGSII is on the shelf, ugly and plastic phone....
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I don't think it's ugly but I certainly agree the build quality is poor compared to the Sensation.

the_scotsman said:
I liked the part where you though it was a good deal...
I know I wouldn't like the GSII to replace my Sensation..
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I liked it too. the SG2 is better than sensation, it's a fact. Just horrible, that is the sensation.

TheStigx said:
I liked it too. the SG2 is better than sensation, it's a fact. Just horrible, that is the sensation.
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What do you dislike about the Sensation?
Just curious to know since I had the choice between a SG2 and Sensation.

k0zmic said:
What do you dislike about the Sensation?
Just curious to know since I had the choice between a SG2 and Sensation.
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First, i'ts the lack of support for the sensation. Power button issue, never really fixed? Battery problem is STILL there. Not as fast as a SG2. Also the build quality is nice, but doesn't hold long. The volume button is very loose, and some byers have experenced that it will fall off. Also there is that "crack" sound, when you push the buttom of the sensation. The sound of somthing not fitting. Also the audio problem, when recording.

Hope you like your galaxy. me, I like my sensation and wouldn't trade for a galaxy unless it came with a hot blonde or a helper monkey

When i saw the title of the thread i thought you were happy about something!!! /s

TheStigx said:
First, i'ts the lack of support for the sensation. Power button issue, never really fixed? Battery problem is STILL there. Not as fast as a SG2. Also the build quality is nice, but doesn't hold long. The volume button is very loose, and some byers have experenced that it will fall off. Also there is that "crack" sound, when you push the buttom of the sensation. The sound of somthing not fitting. Also the audio problem, when recording.
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Lack of support ! ? Lol, you will see the lack of support with SGSII.. Power button issue - solved (with kernel ofcourse). Battery problem - solved with firmware.. Not as fast as SGSII? Its faster with custom rom ofcourse. Volume button is loose ? Not on my sensation.. Crack sound ? Yes, but when u take off back cover and put it back for like 5 times, you dont get it anymore..
Whatsoever, there were alot of threads with this theme (Sensation vs SGSII or goodbye Sensation etc...), and it always turns into bad argue between 2 sides (often without arguments from each side)..
You dont like Sensation, i do .. You like SGSII, i dont..
And, one more thing, i dont undestand the point of this thread..
Cheers mate

cool story bro
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I have a sensation and just because of the freaking dust underneath my screen I'd wanna trade ir for the GSII in a heart beat, II think it's a BIIIIIG flaw otherwise the sensation is prettier and firm.
I love its aluminum.

GS2 looks horrible with its bigger screen and lower resolution.
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Sergio60052 said:
I have a sensation and just because of the freaking dust underneath my screen I'd wanna trade ir for the GSII in a heart beat, II think it's a BIIIIIG flaw otherwise the sensation is prettier and firm.
I love its aluminum.
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This.
Had my sensation for about 3-4 months with no issues and then one morning: POOF, dust under the screen. Still waiting for it from HTC, taking like 2 weeks now and I had to buy another phone to get me by until they send it back. The sensation has terrible build quality. The materials used aren't bad, but the way the phone is put together is stupid (battery cover design is horrible).

I just did the opposite because got two gs2 with bad headphone jack hope you have better luck love my sensation
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Ill be the guys who says congratulations.
I have both of these devices and to me at least the Sensation is an overrated brick.. and even though the screen res is lesser on a bigger screen when i look at the sensation next to the SGS 2 the sensation looks gross and washed out.. SAMOLED + is a good thing..
And i know alot of you seem to think because the Sensation is made of Aluminum it makes it a better build quality... But i think your very wrong.. Yes the SGS 2 is Plastic but thats not a bad thing. Its very strong and its incredibly light. The Sensation would pull your pants down if your belt came loose its so heavy.. and amazing how with that superior build quality how everyone who has one seems to get dust under the glass...
And I know that they have the same chipset, but honestly the Sensation compared to my SGS II in fluidity and smoothness during use the Sensation just is a big fat looser.. I tried to play ShadowGun on both and the Sensation was very choppy and for whatever reason just could do it as nice as the SGSG 2 which plays SG smooth as butter..
Funny because I just posted about how much problems my wife has had with the Sensation she wants her OG G2 back LMAO..
So to each his own but dont bust on the guy for getting what i believe is a superior device to what your using..

Phone too big?

I currently have a Desire S and looking to get a One S. But I'm concerned that the One S is too big to use comfortably in one hand. Is this the case?

Not too big. Screen size is just right and housing is thin
And ask questions in the question section
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It's the width of the phone that was the issue for me. Might be best if I try it first.

Not too big.. Ergonomics of the device is excellent..
Maybe just the screen size 720p, respectively high ppi

I find it a bit hard to hold onto because theres no where to hold without pressing either the screen or the soft-buttons, or covering the camera.
But I guess its a matter of getting used to it, my blade had hard-buttons, and my tablets got 3 mile frames around the screen

One S is actually not too big. It is about the size of the ipod touch first gen but about an inch taller. I find it easy to use with one hand though it can be a bit slippery and the volume button is a bit too sensitive but that is an easy fix with a case.

Phone size just perfect.
I originally bought the LG Optimus 4X with a 4.7 inch screen but it didn't "feel right".
Now i got the HTC One S and the phone easily fits in my pocket even with a cover.

For me this is excellent size for use. I don't prefer bigger phones than one s. On the second side desire s is small phone.
The best size for phone for me is between 4 and 4.3.
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The best one hand size is 4" but 4.3" is still in the usable range, any size beyond 4.3" is too big for single hand.

TheEndHK said:
The best one hand size is 4" but 4.3" is still in the usable range, any size beyond 4.3" is too big for single hand.
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That statement depends on how big you are. I'm 6'7 and a gs3 fits perfectly as well as galaxy note. This device is a super easy grip with or without a case.
Pocket size is a different story of course. One s is good in the pocket
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This phone is actually pretty small compared to all the high end phones coming out. Its a great size.. especially when you get a nice snug tpu case to protect it. :highfive:

I used Legend for 19 months before switching to One S.
Screen size is so important to me [the smaller the better], I might've gone for the One v had it not been for the insanely obsolete specs.
And now, honestly, I'm so used to One S, Legend seems so tiny to me now. Even the iPhone screen seems cluttered.
It's a matter of getting used to the size. and you will, once you switch to S.
I recommend.

325i. said:
It's the width of the phone that was the issue for me. Might be best if I try it first.
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I think you answered your own question

nexus s
I found coming from a Nexus S to the One S a little startling at first, but I wouldnt say the screen was too big. After using it for a few months I cant imagine going back to a smaller screen.

I came straight from an old candybar phone (no joke) and was a bit nervous about the surface area of the screen but after this I think I'd like HTC to make one the size of the SGNII because I'd really consider getting that one on launch.

I guess it depends on the size of your hand. For me it is a just a little bjt too big. Sometimes onehand operation is awkward. I love this phone and would not consider it a deal breaker though.
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You need to try it out in store first.
I had the 4" Incredible S before, perfect size and fit.
The One S is on the large side for me, but ok 95% of the time.
My wife has the Desire S, it is a nice, small phone but a little clunky and tiny screen.
The One S blows away the Desire S in every aspect - big upgrade.

Lol I find this device to be a little small (for me) I got big hands
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I suppose my opinion will be quite important to you My last phone was the desire s I owned it for over a year and I loved it, my one s felt a bit bigger (because it is) and then about 10 mins of using it I completely forget that I was using a bigger phone!

size is almost good for me .
only problem i had always is NOTIFICATION bar . my thumb is so flexible now !

[Q] Difference between brightness of HTC One S 1.5 vs 1.7

Hello Brothers.
I have both Htc One S 1.5 and 1.7.
what I am facing a real problem that there is a difference in brightness in the both phones,
1.7 is bright and white and 1.5,s screen is bit yellowish. Is any one got this difference or its a difference between the software's diffrence as the 1.5 have jelly bean and 1.7 is older version yet not updated.
Any one observe the same ? help or solution..

attique.wains said:
Hello Brothers.
I have both Htc One S 1.5 and 1.7.
what I am facing a real problem that there is a difference in brightness in the both phones,
1.7 is bright and white and 1.5,s screen is bit yellowish. Is any one got this difference or its a difference between the software's diffrence as the 1.5 have jelly bean and 1.7 is older version yet not updated.
Any one observe the same ? help or solution..
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What is 1.5 and 1.7?
And as far as yellowish screen is concerned, I also have this issue with my phone (S3). I read some other users also reported it.
When viewing the screen, it looks a bit yellowish, however if i tilt it a bit forward or backward, the yellowish color goes away and white looks bright and pure white.
My phone also has JB. I got this phone already upgraded to JB, so not sure whether the same thing was on ICS or not.
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omer7 said:
What is 1.5 and 1.7?
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1.5Ghz Snapdragon S4, 1.7Ghz Snapdragon S3.
I have the S4 and I have no problems with the colours from the display, white is definitely white, just the bloody RGBG display that HTC fitted is my only complaint with the screen.

kylepont said:
1.5Ghz Snapdragon S4, 1.7Ghz Snapdragon S3.
I have the S4 and I have no problems with the colours from the display, white is definitely white, just the bloody RGBG display that HTC fitted is my only complaint with the screen.
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Oh okay, he was talking about the processors . I thought some software version he was talking about.
Anyway it seems that some units have this yellowish screen issue, I read somewhere one S4 user also had a same issue with his phone's display. I have S3 phone, and same issue.
And what is wrong with RGBG display? I mean what change does this type of display do?
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omer7 said:
Anyway it seems that some units have this yellowish screen issue, I read somewhere one S4 user also had a same issue with his phone's display. I have S3 phone, and same issue.
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I reckon it's just Samsung sending HTC some dodgy displays. Luck of the draw I suppose, the processor plays no part.
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And what is wrong with RGBG display? I mean what change does this type of display do?
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http://www.wikitech.hu/uploads/2012/01/rgb-stripe-vs-rgbg-vs-rgbw-pentile.png < This is a image of digital screen display matrix'. The top one is the conventional display that the large majority of all digital displays use. The bottom two are Samsung's new PenTile displays. The main purpose of them is to save battery (which is why most people were staggered by the battery life of the One S on stock ICS). Basically, you only got 2/3 of a pixel on each pixel, because either red or blue has been sacrificed. The HTC One S has the middle one, the bottom one is used on a couple of Motorolas, the point of that display is to give superior performance in bright light.

Yeah seems processor has nothing to do with yellowish display. Only some units have it and unfortunately my phone is one of them. I do not like the yellowish screen, white looks beautiful.
And thanks for the display info
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omer7 said:
Yeah seems processor has nothing to do with yellowish display. Only some units have it and unfortunately my phone is one of them. I do not like the yellowish screen, white looks beautiful.
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You could purchase a LCD screen made for the HTC Sensation/Sensation XE. Same screen size, same resolution, fits into the slot, and it is a proper RGB display, so you will notice the difference. Your battery life will decrease a little bit though, and obviously, the warranty is void if you open the phone up (although you have probably already made it void by unlocking the bootloader)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HTC-SENSA...K_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item2ebce9c4b1 £19.95 from eBay, although it is debatable whether you would trust something from eBay.

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You could purchase a LCD screen made for the HTC Sensation/Sensation XE. Same screen size, same resolution, fits into the slot, and it is a proper RGB display, so you will notice the difference. Your battery life will decrease a little bit though, and obviously, the warranty is void if you open the phone up (although you have probably already made it void by unlocking the bootloader)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HTC-SENSA...K_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item2ebce9c4b1 £19.95 from eBay, although it is debatable whether you would trust something from eBay.
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Well, instead of changing the display, i would rather prefer a new phone. I recently got this phone (in feb), quite satisfied with its overall performance except the display and some lags in games (esp subway surfer, most others run smoothly) in JB update. But that is okay now. Will use this phone for coming months then i might think of getting a new one. May be nexus 4 or some other phone.
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omer7 said:
Well, instead of changing the display, i would rather prefer a new phone. I recently got this phone (in feb), quite satisfied with its overall performance except the display and some lags in games (esp subway surfer, most others run smoothly) in JB update. But that is okay now. Will use this phone for coming months then i might think of getting a new one. May be nexus 4 or some other phone.
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I would definitely get the HTC One (M7 version). That will be a mighty beast of a phone. However, my Business Studies teacher has the Nexus 4, and he uses it for the projector, and that thing is lightning quick. For the price that it is available at direct from Google play, you definitely cannot go wrong.

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I would definitely get the HTC One (M7 version). That will be a mighty beast of a phone. However, my Business Studies teacher has the Nexus 4, and he uses it for the projector, and that thing is lightning quick. For the price that it is available at direct from Google play, you definitely cannot go wrong.
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Htc one would be expnsive for me. I prefer a mid ranged phone. If SGS III price drops a bit more, i would probably get it.
Nexus 4 isnt officially available in Pakistan, but local dealers have it. But right now it is a bit over priced here in Pakistan. Its price is dropping, and hopefuly will adjust in next few months. In fact one of the jnline shops (in Pakistan) also recommended to wait if u want to get it in good price.
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omer7 said:
Nexus 4 isnt officially available in Pakistan, but local dealers have it. But right now it is a bit over priced here in Pakistan. Its price is dropping, and hopefuly will adjust in next few months. In fact one of the jnline shops (in Pakistan) also recommended to wait if u want to get it in good price.
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If amazon or play.com do deliveries to Pakistan, then I would definitely check both of them if I were you. You won't find many legitimate offers cheaper than on them two websites.

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If amazon or play.com do deliveries to Pakistan, then I would definitely check both of them if I were you. You won't find many legitimate offers cheaper than on them two websites.
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Yeah sure i ll check these two sites. But i dont think amazon delivers to Pakistan, but will check it out.
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HTC one s is in two models and same body. Ones processor is s4 1.5 and others s3 1.7.
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