[Q] Looking for another email client - HTC Sensation

I really like the Gmail email client because i get emails on my phone almost instantly, sometime even faster than my desktop Thunderbird client. One thing that the Gmail client missing is the "combine" inbox. I frequently flash different ROMs, it a pain to have to setup about 8 email accounts every time. I did use Titanium back up but it doesnt seem to back up the accounts and settings. So i have to manually setup every time.
I've tried K-9, MailDroid, and Enhanced Email program from the market and they all are very good except they "poll" email every x amount of minutes. I like the feature from Gmail where it get email right away when you get an email.
Anyone know of alternative clients that have what i am looking for?
Thanks.

sumasage said:
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I've tried K-9, MailDroid, and Enhanced Email program from the market and they all are very good except they "poll" email every x amount of minutes. I like the feature from Gmail where it get email right away when you get an email.
Anyone know of alternative clients that have what i am looking for?
Thanks.
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Hi,
You'll find that K-9 will work without polling and work instantaneously on Gmail and also on any other IMAP server that will suppport IDLE. IDLE is a part of the IMAP protocol that allows a mail client to sit with a connection open to the server and get notified immediately an incoming email arrives. This is also what Thunderbird on your desktop uses.
I use K-9 and get notifications immediately (sometimes slightly before, sometimes slightly after my desktop client) on Gmail. It's a feature I value also!
Cheers,
John

but that will eat your battery

Ive used the gmail clinet for abput a yeat now and been havong good battery life, assumimg thr rom dont have a battrry issue. If it worked the same way as the Gmail client wouldn't it be good on battery as well?
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yes, thats google PUSH notifications. bit IMAP IDLE is not that. IMAP IDLE will eat battery.
But thats a server problem also. for push notifications to work, your mail server needs to be setup so and your client also.

Oh dam, that's sucks. Does k9 or any other email clients do that push thing??
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sumasage said:
Oh dam, that's sucks. Does k9 or any other email clients do that push thing??
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none that i know of. if you find one let me know

I think K9 is the one. I tested last night by fully charge the battery, setup four gmail accounts in K9 then let it sit over night (with out charging). Woke up this morning and i'm still at 100%. This is about 7 hours of idle time. I will setup the rest of my accounts tonight and do the same thing again and see how it goes. I'm liking the result so far though. Maybe you can test it too so we can compare.

sumasage said:
Oh dam, that's sucks. Does k9 or any other email clients do that push thing??
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It is possible to set up the standard HTC client (at least here on ICS), using the Gmail Exchange active sync method.
To do this you have to add an email address in Mail and then do Manual setup,
Make sure you use SSL security, use your full email address as the login/username and set the server to m.google.com and it should work (well it does for me). YMMV

jmcollis said:
It is possible to set up the standard HTC client (at least here on ICS), using the Gmail Exchange active sync method.
To do this you have to add an email address in Mail and then do Manual setup,
Make sure you use SSL security, use your full email address as the login/username and set the server to m.google.com and it should work (well it does for me). YMMV
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I will try this latter. As of right now i like K9. I tested it again last night. Woke up this morning and it lost about 2% in the 8 hours that i slept. So it definitely good use on battery life.

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Funambol Push Email

Anyone with any experience using Funambol? It's an open source push email solution. It seems to be the only Exchange competitor open source has to offer. I'm installing it now to my server so I'll post my experience. Any thing I should watch out for during the install?
Thanks
LMAO lack of interest apparently!
I tried myfunambol today... Setting up an account and installing everything was easy. Seemed to sync my contacts, calendar and tasks just fine... but I couldn't use more than one email account which was a bummer. But more importantly... the one email account I did use.. gmail... Would push the email to my device after about 5-10 minutes. It would notify me that there was new mail... but when I would go to the Funambol account (won't let you rename it in pocket outlook from what I could tell) it would say Sending/Recieving... and after it was done... there was nothing in my inbox. It did manage to get them after I clicked on Menu > Send/Recieve... but it was still spotty. I didn't get that "reliable" feeling from it.
I tried it for about an hour and even synced my Outlook on my desktop. The syncing of contacts and what not seemed fine... but the email didn't seem to work for me.
I'm on the 8525 btw.
I decided to just go back to mail2web for now... and just forward my work and my personal email to one email account. BAH!
I wish pocket Outlook would just support IMAP idle for gmail already... that and PPC PimBackup is all I would need.
Mark
funambol does actually support instant push, and as soon as the server sees new mail, your phone will sync it.
Your problem is that if you're using the my.funambol free hosted service, their server is only polling your email every 15 min.
Basically, you're notified as soon as the server has new mail for you, however the server only checks for you on 15 min intervals.
Why?
Because the public email servers (yahoo, gmail, aol, etc) dont like get pounded with constant email checking. I was told even blackberry servers check public servers on intervals for this reason (private domains will be instant tho).
If you have an ISP or private domain email, and you're nice to funambol's support team, you can ask them to set your account to check more often. I don't know if they'll do this for everyone, but they set mine to check every 1 min. Now the longest I have to wait for email to arrive is one minute, the actual time averages around 10 sec.
Or you can set up your own funambol server if you'd like...
Ah, that explains the delay.
I was hoping the Funambol server would implement IMAP IDLE connection to gmail so that the emails would be pushed much faster than a 15 minute polling. I'll have to do some more research.
Dishe,
You seem very knowledgeable about Funambol. Do you know if it support HTML email with the Windows Mobile plug-in? It is currently giving me plain-text, I thought maybe there was a setting I could do to change this. Thanks.
www.nuevasync.com
No joke, 1000x better than any other sync solution. Only works with Gapps, but I bet that's what 90% of you guys are looking for anyway.
TerryMathews said:
www.nuevasync.com
No joke, 1000x better than any other sync solution. Only works with Gapps, but I bet that's what 90% of you guys are looking for anyway.
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From their website, it does not seem to support push email (YET).
I checked out Nuevasync and it is awesome! It syncs contacts and calendar perfectly and doesn't require any software downloads. It uses activesync. Thanks a lot for the tip!
is really useful for me, I am glad to read it here.

underperforming email application on Evo

Coming from BlackBerry, I have gotten worried several times already with my new Evo.
In my former Blackberry, also with Sprint, you sent me an email and before three seconds (specially on my Hotmail account) I would feel my Blackberry vibrating already. It was blazing amazing.
On my Evo, I have my email set to sync every 5 minutes, which is the max allowed by the settings. It's set for 5 minutes peak and not peak, and the 7 days of the week.
Last night at 11:30pm I received an email sent at 7pm. The time stamp on the email was 7pm, the email was received at 11:30pm. I saw it because I manually synchronized, otherwise..... This would have never happened with the BlackBerry (who own their own email servers, which have no equal, now I see).
4 hours 30 minutes is not acceptable. This is the worst example, but not the only one. Some of them took 2 hours, some 10 minutes, and about 75% are on time.
The sync is not working every 5 minutes as it should. It's like it just dies out. I have a strong 3G signal, so signal is not the issue.
My phone is still virgin (stock).
Exactly the same is going on with the Weather widget, it wasn't sync-ing, but now the sync settings grayed out on me. I can't even change the settings. The weather application works for me only when I manually sync, yesterday morning it was raining and there was a huge shining sun on my screen, so it's not accu---rate. This noon I still had a full moon on my screen.
I wonder what's going on.
K9 mail brah
Thanks. Installing k9Mail now....
Did u try exchange settings ?
It should push mail s instantly..
drgopoos said:
Did u try exchange settings ?
It should push mail s instantly..
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no, but I'll try... thanks!
Any change you use a gmail account? The gmail app sends a notification as soon as the e-mail is received, just like the blackberry. If not, perhaps you should forward your e-mails (from hotmail) to a gmail account and bypass the 5 minute syncing issue.
Also, if you're using a task killer, be sure you have your e-mails apps listed as "ignore" otherwise you might kill the syncing and automatic updating.
To summarize:
- If you use Gmail use the Gmail app.
- If you use Exchange use the Exchange option in the Email app.
- If you use IMAP use K9 Mail.
All of the above options will give you push email that is pretty much instant.
rdude said:
To summarize:
- If you use Gmail use the Gmail app.
- If you use Exchange use the Exchange option in the Email app.
- If you use IMAP use K9 Mail.
All of the above options will give you push email that is pretty much instant.
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email app in andorid has to be refined more, especially push and sync.
I do get into some issues at times, but with froyo , hopefully its going to be solved.
( so far the best sync option for email for me has been my jaibrokeb iphone . no flames please. i am not an apple fanboy and i have never used blackberry )
parousia15 said:
Any change you use a gmail account? The gmail app sends a notification as soon as the e-mail is received, just like the blackberry. If not, perhaps you should forward your e-mails (from hotmail) to a gmail account and bypass the 5 minute syncing issue.
Also, if you're using a task killer, be sure you have your e-mails apps listed as "ignore" otherwise you might kill the syncing and automatic updating.
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Hi, thanks. Yes, I have a gmail account but that''s the one I just created for the market application. I have had that Hotmail account for about 10 years or more... That one worked perfectly with BBerry. I installed K-9 Mail, which looks great but keeps logging error messages "server allows to log in only once every 15 minutes." I configured this to sync every minute, so I get 15 error messages before it works (syncs). At least the HTC stock mail doesn't have that problem.
I may need to switch to gmail..at least some of the email traffic. I have a task killer but it doesn't kill the mail application or any other system appl. Just flickr, Facebook, Amazon MP3...
rdude said:
To summarize:
- If you use Gmail use the Gmail app.
- If you use Exchange use the Exchange option in the Email app.
- If you use IMAP use K9 Mail.
All of the above options will give you push email that is pretty much instant.
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Thanks. With Exchange you guys mean an enterprise MS Exchange server, correct? which I don't have access to.
That's what I miss the most of my BlackBerry, the speed to get emails. I made tests with iPhones, Androids, and even Blackberry's on ATT and this Sprint BlackBerry was the best. Not even 3 seconds most of the time, using Hotmail.
Hotmail has recently released the exchange settings. U should try that
It keeps happening with this HTC stock email application. I have 3 different sorts of email accounts setup on it, and it seems that only the one on the foreground works, the other 2 in the background are asleep. If I get an email in one of those sleeping mailboxes, I don't even get a notification, led, nor sound, or anything. I just received an email from 7AM at this time, 1123AM, and just because I checked because I was curious, otherwise.... That prompted me to write this. Just out of frustration. One of those email accounts in the background is a Google account, and it didn't work. I will have to split them into different email applications according to the type of account, as suggested above. I have a strong 3G signal. It has to be something in the implementation. The task killer just kills those flickr, Amazon, Facebook, that's about it. It doesn't kill any system files. Not even google talk.
I'll keep investigating.
Update
In case somebody has the same problem, I am tracking down what's going on here.
Definitely, the problem is caused by one process the Task Killer....is killing...
I'm very surprised. The tasks that are being killed are mostly HTC programs that apparently shouldn't affect the performance of MAIL and WEATHER, but it does. Probably, this is also affecting the other issue I have, the setting of location services being permanently turned off.
Now, which application is it, that is obviously being used by MAIL and WEATHER?
Could it be FOOTPRINTS? Could it be HTC Facebook? Could it be AMAZON MUSIC STORE? Could it be SPRINT NAVIGATION? Or Qik?
Basically, those are the processes being killed.
The way I found out was killing the killer, and restarting all these applications. All of a sudden MAIL and WEATHER started working as expected. Mail refreshes every 5 minutes.
Maybe by killing one of those "dummy" programs above, also kills a thread of hidden processes being used by Weather and Mail.
Interesting.
(maybe somebody knows about this already here or in another forum).

Emails

I have over 400 emails and my phone only showing me 100 of them. Amyone else having this issue?
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I guess no one is having this problem?
I am suprised no one else having this problem, I guess I have a defective one.
I noticed this just a day ago. The POP emails seem to age off after 1 week or if they get deleted on the server.
My assumption is the email client on the phone is doing this; it should not, but there is no other reason for it. The only relevant email setting i can find is if the client should delete on the server.
I was starting to like Touchwiz, but Samsung really messed up the email client. I hope custom Roms give us a better email client.
I also have a problem with POP3 fetch. I have 1 Exchange, Gmail, and 3 POP3 accounts. Exchange works as it should, but the POP3 accounts seem to stop fetching overnight. Even manually refreshing doesn't work. I may have rebooted before or just waited... not sure.
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I also have a problem with POP3 fetch. I have 1 Exchange, Gmail, and 3 POP3 accounts. Exchange works as it should, but the POP3 accounts seem to stop fetching overnight. Even manually refreshing doesn't work. I may have rebooted before or just waited... not sure.
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I had the inverse problem. IMAP stoped retreiving my mail and POP3 worked
(I had 2 IMAP + 3 GMAIL)
Now 1 IMAP, 1 POP and 3 GMAIL
Email Client Is Too Slow
Why is the email client so dang slow?
It's slow in general but mostly when I go to delete emails.
If I select several emails for deletion they pop off one at a time every 5 seconds or so.
No other phone I've owned has ever taken this long to do something as simple as delete an email.
Is this a problem with just the Captivate and TouchWiz, or does it happen with other Android phones as well?
Will this be fixed in FroYo?
Also for some reason some e-mail clients like Eudora, has an issue with the stock e-mail app from Samsung, it does not have proper mail headers and Eudora will show up as gibberish. I have switched over to MailDroid and it seems to be a lot more responsive, less of a memory hog and actually has no problems with Eudora and other mail clients that require mime in the headers. As well as I got a -2 e-mail on an iMap account under the Samsung Stock E-mail app...
Cheers,
Charlie

Best email app?

Can someone recommend an improved email app to me?
I currently am using the default program on cm7. I want one that downloads the messages as well as headers (default takes time to load each.) Also one that lists more emails at once and let's you search them. I really just use pop3.
Thanks
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K9 is the best I've found so far
extracted email app of Archos gen 8, I'm not sure it can work with HTC or not
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K9 is the best I've found so far
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second********
I'm an happy owner of Enhanced Email
http://www.appbrain.com/app/enhanced-email/com.qs.enhancedemail
botolo78 said:
I'm an happy owner of Enhanced Email
http://www.appbrain.com/app/enhanced-email/com.qs.enhancedemail
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I 2nd this. Best email client out there!
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Loving Seven. Support is terrible as they seem to be looking for a new coder.
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I Personally use K-9 Mail. Can anyone tell me though, does IMAP accounts support PUSH notifications?
Because I set K-9 to only update every 1 hour on the server, but if I send a test email I get it on my phone INSTANTLY. So is this constant polling, or is that push?
barqers said:
I Personally use K-9 Mail. Can anyone tell me though, does IMAP accounts support PUSH notifications?
Because I set K-9 to only update every 1 hour on the server, but if I send a test email I get it on my phone INSTANTLY. So is this constant polling, or is that push?
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Yes, K-9 supports IMAP push(IMAP_IDLE) although it might still be a good idea to have it poll periodically as a backup. Here is a list of K-9 features with push holding down the first bullet.
One annoyance, which is not a K-9 issue but rather a google issue, is with gmail's implementation of IMAP push as it fails to sync read/unread flags. An email you've read in K-9 won't show up as read on your computer(or vice versa) until a poll is done or an email is deleted from the server to update other devices. This works fine with my school IMAP account so it's no fault of K-9 but rather google not pushing read flags for gmail.
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Yes, K-9 supports IMAP push(IMAP_IDLE) although it might still be a good idea to have it poll periodically as a backup. Here is a list of K-9 features with push holding down the first bullet.
One annoyance, which is not a K-9 issue but rather a google issue, is with gmail's implementation of IMAP push as it fails to sync read/unread flags. An email you've read in K-9 won't show up as read on your computer(or vice versa) until a poll is done or an email is deleted from the server to update other devices. This works fine with my school IMAP account so it's no fault of K-9 but rather google not pushing read flags for gmail.
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Awesome, thank you very much for the link and information!

Push Mail

Hi
Is there anyway to speed the time the mail is sent to the phone from the time it is received by the service provider (that is like Hotmail or POP)
i have found it takes 30mins or more sometimes for the mail to reach my phone and it has been received by hotmail.
can anyone give me some advice on how to make this time shorter.
i am running RCMix3D Runny v3.3 on my inspire 4G
best regards
Linkzz said:
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Is there anyway to speed the time the mail is sent to the phone from the time it is received by the service provider (that is like Hotmail or POP)
i have found it takes 30mins or more sometimes for the mail to reach my phone and it has been received by hotmail.
can anyone give me some advice on how to make this time shorter.
i am running RCMix3D Runny v3.3 on my inspire 4G
best regards
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Most e-mail clients allow to adjust how often it queries the e-mail servers. It sounds like your client is using the default setting of 30 minutes or something. You'll have to go into the settings and adjust the "Check for e-mail every x minutes" setting.
If you want to receive Hotmail in realtime, you'll have to use the official Hotmail app in the Market.
X2 on the hotmail app, it works great. Also I found with the stock mail app when you delete messages it won't delete them off the server, the hotmail app does it instantly
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Linkzz said:
Hi
Is there anyway to speed the time the mail is sent to the phone from the time it is received by the service provider (that is like Hotmail or POP)
i have found it takes 30mins or more sometimes for the mail to reach my phone and it has been received by hotmail.
can anyone give me some advice on how to make this time shorter.
i am running RCMix3D Runny v3.3 on my inspire 4G
best regards
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How do you have hotmail setup? I have it setup as an exchange account in the default mail app and everything works instantly (receiving messages, deleting messages (which are also deleted from server), etc). I usually have it set to only sync every 15 minutes to save battery, but when set to push it works instantly.
server address: m.hotmail.com
username: full email address
Server requires SSL
This is what I have done and it is working great. Go to your email provider (Hotmail, POP3, whatever it may be) and set it to forward all your emails to your Gmail address (you do have a Gmail address, right?). Use the Gmail app on you phone and your emails will get pushed to you instantly. You can also set your Gmail account to use your other email address for replies and forwards, so it looks like it's coming from the original address and not Gmail.
Thanks for the excellent info people i really didnot know there was a hotmail app. but it was setup for every 30 minis. i have changed it to 5 mins cause thats the lowest i saw. i also want to find out about the the download messages which is set to 200. does this mean that the phone will only download 200 messages "per day"?
1 last final question which i am curious about. i have other folders created in my hotmail such as sent and drafts etc. usual folders is it possible to sync these folders with my phone inorder that my hotmail account will be in sync with my phone.
sometimes i use my computer to send out mails as well as my phone. but i cant sync the sent folder. please bear in mind i have not installed the hotmail app.
however i will try it as soon as i am finished sending this post.
thanks again people for your kind support.
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This is what I have done and it is working great. Go to your email provider (Hotmail, POP3, whatever it may be) and set it to forward all your emails to your Gmail address (you do have a Gmail address, right?). Use the Gmail app on you phone and your emails will get pushed to you instantly. You can also set your Gmail account to use your other email address for replies and forwards, so it looks like it's coming from the original address and not Gmail.
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thanks for the idea i did think of that option however i get alot of mail from gmail as well as hotmail and did not want them all mixed up. i am not sure if i can create a folder for hotmail in my gmail account and just push all the mail into that folder. its something i have thought about just have not tried it cause my emails have my work in them and i cant afford to mess them up.
best regards
Linkzz said:
thanks for the idea i did think of that option however i get alot of mail from gmail as well as hotmail and did not want them all mixed up. i am not sure if i can create a folder for hotmail in my gmail account and just push all the mail into that folder. its something i have thought about just have not tried it cause my emails have my work in them and i cant afford to mess them up.
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You can try playing around with the settings in Gmail. I know they have fileters that you can set. I haven't tried it personally but I imagine you could set it to put the emails you forward from your other accounts into specific folders.
Try out K-9 off the Android Market
You'll never turn back. Fully customizable (potentially overwhelming).
Linkzz said:
thanks for the idea i did think of that option however i get alot of mail from gmail as well as hotmail and did not want them all mixed up. i am not sure if i can create a folder for hotmail in my gmail account and just push all the mail into that folder. its something i have thought about just have not tried it cause my emails have my work in them and i cant afford to mess them up.
best regards
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Create a filter in Gmail for your hotmail account and add a label named "hotmail", then forward to your Gmail account. Check sync "hotmail" folder in Gmail app. settings
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