MobileCrunch are reporting that HTC threatens handset hackers with legal action for distributing ROMs.
http://ongoingissues.wordpress.com/2010/06/17/htc-threatens-handset-hackers-with-legal-action/
maybe we, the community should build a list of user, a signature of opposing people to the closure of the site. stating that the use of the ROMs is for the purpose of cooking our own ROMs and increase the usability, performance, and desirability of the HTC handsets.
Maybe HTC need to be made aware of how much their customer base relys on ROMs for development of the HTC Handsets, and possibly go as far as to list who wouldn't buy a handset without access to other ROMs.
If Froyo doesn't come to the Desire, I WILL be installing a modified ROM regardless of HTCs feelings, and if this becomes impossible, I WILL be changing to a different brand and boycott HTC from then on. I feel very strongly about the users right to modify their phone in any way they see fit.
I dont even use the roms but i appreciate the work and effort put into them on the chance that i might use them. I also love HTC hardware because of the huge communities developed and bought my Touch Pro 2 based on the outside support that exists and if it were to get taken down by HTC i would second guess my next purchase of a Touch Pro 3 (i know it doesnt exist but something along the lines).
And as far as recommendations of hardware this site alone has swayed alot of coworkers into buying HTC hardware knowing they can tweak there purchase if the need arises.
As a matter of fact, I am now using the HTC support contact form to tell them how wrong they are in promoting this action.
The main reason because of which I didn't buy a iloserphone but chose a WM device is that I can play with it as much as I want.
In that letter it also specifically says "...or of all infringing works derived from the Intellectual Property", which means basically CUSTOM roms, the ones we're all using.
First comes shipped-roms.com, then will be the turn of XDA which hosts links to said custom roms and/or stock roms, same goes for htcpedia and everything else.
If they want to shut themselves down by making their users hate their devices, their choice, but probably we ought to let them know they're just being stupid.
Here's the message I sent them via their website, I encourage you to write them in the big numbers.
Hi.
I am the happy owner of a HD2, and I really am satisfied this device. One of the reasons I am satisfied is because of its hardware specs, the other maybe more important one is that I can actually change the way it works to perfectly suit my needs. Otherwise, I could very well dump it for an iphone.
Now, I know that the person reading this message will be a support employee, and by no means anyone who actually makes the decisions, yet I stringly encourage you to forward this mail to the upper levels.
I just learned that HTC sent a C&D letter to shipped-roms.com.
I know the legal mumbo-jumbo HTC is all about on that decision and I don't need any of that.
I also know another thing: excluding the people who buy your devices just because they were bundled with some dataplan by some carrier, and have no clue how to really use them other than as simple phones, there is a LARGE part of people, including myself, who buy your devices because they like the way they can be customized and how they can be made so much more powerful than what they came out of the store.
If you start acting against websites that allow us "power users" to get the most out of our phones, then it's like you're acting against your customers, and that is a very silly thing.
I can easily see how this kind of action could be taken further, against other leading community websites dedicated to your devices.
If and when you will do that, you will repay the dedication of your customers with legal threats, and you will instantly lose the interest in your products by the same people that now love them for the reasons I explained in this letter.
Please think carefully about it.
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ephestione said:
As a matter of fact, I am now using the HTC support contact form to tell them how wrong they are in promoting this action...
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Thanks! I'm doing the same right now. Apple is not a loser in the game, they dont shut down websites of so-called "hackers" who tweak, crack and write programs which jailbreak their iPhone, and they could just do it, they have plenty of reason to do it BUT only one NOT to do it: $!
I told you, Apple is not so stupid... unlike HTC who shoots itself in the head!(hoping the damages will be soft?) Really silly...
Edit: here's mine:
It recently came to my knowledge that HTC sent a C&D letter to the website shipped-roms.com and if this is true, and you are serious about it, please do re-consider your decision. As a proud owner of an UNBRANDED HTC HD2, HTC BLACKSTONE AND HTC DIAMOND 2, I am asking you to not bother the core of your business: without the shipped roms and the subsequent custom roms from it, I, just like hundreds of thousands of HTC owners around the world (just look at the membership of various forums offering custom roms), would not have bought an HTC device. Why we did buy it was the possibility to modify it to fit our needs, this includes by the means of custom roms too, but not only. If you take this from us, you're left with the "carriers dependant" customers who are, by far, the minority of your customers. If you're serious in taking down websites that make us buy your devices, you will have to face the consequences because without shipped rom, we will just jump ship! As you already know, the competition is tough so you better think this legal action twice if you don't want the value of your shares to melt like snow at the beginning of spring.
I have no words about what HTC is doing. I totally agree with ephestione, and if xda-developers did not exist (or any other similar forum), I would not have an WM Smartphone, as the stock ROMs are normally slow, many times out dated, and not suited for my needs.
I hope that HTC understands that sites like these are the BEST PUBLICITY that they can get fro their devices. You have people working for FREE to make the device better, what else can they ask for?
Instead of promoting, cooperating with the main chefs, and using it to their advantage, they prefer to drag them to the court, and shut them down!!!!
They already void your guarantee when you flash a custom ROM, so I can't see how initiatives like this can cost them more money.
I hope they realize that soon, and save their faces by gracefully changing their position.
I do not say, approve, but at least look the other way
I hope more people will join this cause.
Android is opensource so remove all htc apps in ROM and host htc apps @ mediafire
I Support you if its possible. How about a open letter to htc in Taiwan? I can write a letter as PDF and share it here.
Maybe we should download all of those ROMS an reupload the on a sharehoster only to start a thread with the collection of links over here? Or Maybe a thread in every Device-specific forum?
Thoughts? Want to participate?
How dumb are HTC?
It is the ability to use cooked roms that has helped me tolerate the flaws in WM over the years.
Without the offending roms I would have stopped buying HTC phones years ago. IMHO they should be encouraging the chefs.
They've gone all APPLE!!!
If they persist with this I might as well buy an i-prat and just jailbreak it.
Although slightly off topic I see the WM7 wont allow Sense etc, will HTC still be on their hobby horse. (from what I have read elsewhere it was people messing with sense that p1$$ed them off).
Can some one Post the E-Mail Address /Contact to take my part (and hopefully others) in this ridicules process?
I want to tell them how stupid that is...
Maybe I should switch over to IPhone... if you can't customize it at least works better out of the box!
Dino Crisis said:
Can some one Post the E-Mail Address /Contact to take my part (and hopefully others) in this ridicules process?
I want to tell them how stupid that is...
Maybe I should switch over to IPhone... if you can't customize it at least works better out of the box!
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http://www.htc.com/www/CS_Mail.aspx
Germany Deutsch +49-692-222-7334
Mon - Sat 09:00 - 18:00 (Mon - Fri) 09:00 - 13:00 (Sat)
upload all ROM's to multiupload.com
but my upload speed sucks
acky85 said:
http://www.htc.com/www/CS_Mail.aspx
Germany Deutsch +49-692-222-7334
Mon - Sat 09:00 - 18:00 (Mon - Fri) 09:00 - 13:00 (Sat)
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Thanks
Have sent email....
what do you send? can i use ur text? My english sucks
another site where I posted a modified version of ephestiones letter (thanks for that!) is http://www.htc.com/www/about_htc_bymail.aspx
EMail addresses I found are
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
HTH, Franky
No cooks, no buy
I wouldn't have bought my HTC Rhodium if there weren't custom ROMs available for it. None of the stock HTC ROMs are any good compared to custom ROMs. HTC should thank the chefs for taking their half finished ROMs and making them usable, because it's the chefs who are helping HTC to sell more phones.
That's one hell of a shot in the foot you've got there...
[RANT] This has to be without doubt one of the daftest actions HTC have ever taken against anyone...
"Hello loyal customers....... We'd like you to go to jail please! "
I heartly agree with everyone on here so far, the main reason I bought my HD2 was because of the custom ROMs on here. (Infact it got reflashed before I even put the SIM in! )
I steer clear of everything Apple because I like to be able to customise what I want, how I want. If HTC are getting all edgy because they're promoting diversity, then they should jump in the iBandwagon and I'll go back to using my Nokia.
I can say with 100% truth, if it wasn't for XDA-Dev's I wouldn't have had 6 HTC's by now. [/RANT]
Dear HTC, as a legal and loyal owner of multiple HTC devices (Vodafone magic x2, Telstra desire, Telstra hd2 and Vodafone legend) I am entitled to download any updates for these devices. As such I would like shipped-roms.com to maintain my copy for safe keeping. Seeing as you do not maintain a public copy of historical roms for unsupported devices I believe this is a suitable compromise. Also this way there is no cost to your company.
If wish to continue on this misguided attack I will dispose of these devices, buy a competitors product and never buy or recommend your product to anyone.
Yours Sincerely,
JJ
They have a forum too
HTC's official site has a forum too.
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/f/87.aspx
Check the forum before posting, make sure you pick the right place for your country or maybe we can all post in the same forum. Also, if we do let's just keep a single thread over at their forums. No sense in flooding them, that will just get the threads deleted.
I hope HTC has more sense(pun intended) than to lose distinction between piracy and a huge group of fans that can only benefit them.
I am on my 5th WM HTC device and it is basically because of you guys that I have kept on going with them. I can't imagine having all this fun tweaking, prodding, and modifying any other phones.
Android should be safe... but...
This really does suck. From my understanding and previous history with scrappy unsupported phones from other OEMs, even if I did stick to WM, I would have gone out of my way to get an HTC phone, because of this site and the work that gets done here.
Fortunately, I went with a Nexus One running android so aside from the appropriated Desire keyboard, there really isn't anything that's HTC specific app wise. Also tack on the fact that Android is covered by GPL if I'm not mistaken so that should shield at least the Android development hacks. But who knows really. It could also be a licensing issue with WM specifically that may have triggered this. WM licensing is something truly weird as none of it is really visible to the end user and is usually agreed upon between OEM and carrier.
I just hope this doesn't spread to here. XDA is the central hub of making smartphones actually smart.
Hi
Are there a list of things that a first time smartphone user should know. i am asking this cause i have never used a smartphone ever in my life. in fact i have never spent more than 50 dollars on a phone.
so please if you could please give me a headstart on what a smartphone noob should know
Well, first thing is what device now graces your eyes and hands? Second thing would be to read a little bit about your device.
Not saying that you will want to jump straight in and ROOT your phone but there is tons of information that might help you like what case or maybe different apps that help with battery life.
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can anyone please post some more replies
What's ur device?
Sent from my SGS2 powered by cm9 love
Do your research on each phone your looking into. Get to know your phone before trying to do any ROM/Kernel changes. Also be sure to research and do your homework before attempting any changes at risk of damaging the phone.
Be sure to know what you want in a smart phone as they can be very expensive, play with one at local best buy / see videos / reviews before you purchase. Depending on your carrier know if your looking for a 4G phone that you know it is a 4G phone. Research the specs, hardware, software. There isn't much flagship advice one can give you about using your phone that you cannot find out by just playing with the phone and seeing whether you enjoy it. Just know there is tons to do and with time you will easily learn the OS/Phone you enjoy.
Best advice is: Research and know what device you want before getting it, save money if you don't like it & play with one to learn / see if you enjoy that OS or phone.
I am using the HTC one x
Your best bet would be to do your research. Read, read and read some more. Learn what your device can and can not do. Most things you will not have to worry about depending on your needs.
One word you have one x..so good screen best for.HD porno
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Most people use smartphones as a portable entertainment platform.... so learn how to download music, videos and games to your device and enjoy it
Learn power management , these phones can use a lot of power if you do not control it, when i got my first smart phone the battery would die in 8 or so hours, now i can get a day an half out of it maybe two without recharging it...
Example set your screen brightness down to50 % or less, email retreival to once a day and then check it manually. put a data off short cut on your main screen , turn it on/off as needed...
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You are using a Smartphone for the first time and you had never used phone above $50. So I will not make you confuse by giving a list of Smartphones. I have choosen a Samartphone with every great feature and choosen as seeing you as a first time Smartphone user. Today most popular Smartphones are Android devices so you should by an Android Smartphone and you will have to spend at least $300. You need a phone with good camera, good music Input and Output quality and a touchscreen with a good touch response. So my suggestion is you can buy HTC Wildfire S its cost is about $300 maybe below $300. It has a 5 Megapixel camera with LED Flash, 3.2 Inch Capacitive touchscreen,3G, WiFi, GPS, HTC Sesnse User Interface 2.1, 512 MB ROM, 512 MB RAM, Android 2.3 and it has every feature that you think about a good Smartphone.
HTC one X is a brilliant phone. Read this
http://features.techworld.com/opera...ster-more-productive-more-secure-than-iphone/
That should be a good start.
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Hello,
I opened this thread because i want that people can read and see what the best phone is for him.
The most people will say that the samsung galaxy s3 is the best phone, but that's because its very populair by the galaxy series
The htc one X and the lg optimus 4x speed are good devices too.
Please write your opinion and experienced with your 'best phone' so people can see what they might will buy.
Please do it in this order, so it's easier to read
Name of the device
Android version
Price
Screen (inch)
Number of cores
Amount of ram
Battery (Mah)
Camera (Mp)
Good points
Bad points
Description/opinion ( why should we buy this device?)
Owner (yes/no)
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And please press the "Thanks" button if you found this tread/post very helpful.
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Sorry for my bad English, i'm Dutch
Donate if my post/reply was very helpful.
Honestly it will come down to the user "you".
Sure there are plenty of awesome new high spec phones out there. But each one will define the user, say.. ex. The Razr? It has 22-24 hours of talk time? That's impressive, most high end phone recently released can't do this.
You'll just have to look through the specs and find the one you think will meet your needs. I'm on the Droid incredible, my eye is in the nexus. Its nearly perfect for me as an upgrade, features have nice specs "except the cam/corder" not sure what Samsung was thinking
But in every other department it fits my needs.
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What´s best for me may not be for you, besides you will find many identica threads in Q%A section.
My Samsung Captivate decided to take a dive into a pool, but luckily I'm eligible for an upgrade. Every single time this happens (upgrading) I can never figure out what to get, and end up just settling on whatever my first choice was. This time, I want to get some good facts and opinions on what would be the best path. The last day I've been looking at the HTC One X, but now two other phones have caught my eye.. Motorola Atrix HD and Sony Xperia Ion (both of which are $0.01 upgrade through Amazon). Are there any other phones I should take into consideration? HTC One X is $79.99 on Amazon and that's the absolute most I'll spend..
GNious said:
My Samsung Captivate decided to take a dive into a pool, but luckily I'm eligible for an upgrade. Every single time this happens (upgrading) I can never figure out what to get, and end up just settling on whatever my first choice was. This time, I want to get some good facts and opinions on what would be the best path. The last day I've been looking at the HTC One X, but now two other phones have caught my eye.. Motorola Atrix HD and Sony Xperia Ion (both of which are $0.01 upgrade through Amazon). Are there any other phones I should take into consideration? HTC One X is $79.99 on Amazon and that's the absolute most I'll spend..
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You already asked in the device suggestion thread. As you should already be aware, double posting is not allowed. You've already had threads closed for other rule violations such as the infamous "best ROM" threads. I highly suggest you read and familiarize yourself with XDA rules before continuing to post. Continued violation of the rules will result in further action being taken.
I've been looking around lately for something to replace my HTC One M7, and so far the M8s (GSMArena info page) is looking really good... But I was very sad to see that there doesn't seem to be much (any?) custom development for it at the moment. Unfortunately searching XDA for phrases with such short words ("HTC One M8s") really doesn't show anything useful, I assume because the search filters lump "M8" and "M8s" together as "singular" and "plural", so it's quite possible that I've simply missed some vital info somewhere.
I'm also somewhat limited by device size since I have one paralyzed arm, so I actually need a phone that's still usable with one hand. Even though us tall and scrawny people do have long fingers, any screens over 5" is just plain awkward to use and I start getting hand cramps after about 10 minutes of use. While all the "mini" variations of newer phones seem to be underpowered or lacking in features. :/ If it wasn't for the screen sizes, I'd quite happily go for something like a LG G4 or an Asus Zenfone 2.. *sigh* Such gorgeous phones.
On a related note (and within as much as anyone can trust people's "opinions" on the internet), I have seen a fair number of people complaining online about the higher heat generated by the Snapdragon 801 chips included in the original M8, which is another reason I'm so interested in the M8s with it's SnapDragon 615 chip.
So, just to check, are there any plans to create a forum for this device? Or is there simply not enough demand for it..?
ZaLiTH said:
I've been looking around lately for something to replace my HTC One M7, and so far the M8s (GSMArena info page) is looking really good... But I was very sad to see that there doesn't seem to be much (any?) custom development for it at the moment. Unfortunately searching XDA for phrases with such short words ("HTC One M8s") really doesn't show anything useful, I assume because the search filters lump "M8" and "M8s" together as "singular" and "plural", so it's quite possible that I've simply missed some vital info somewhere.
I'm also somewhat limited by device size since I have one paralyzed arm, so I actually need a phone that's still usable with one hand. Even though us tall and scrawny people do have long fingers, any screens over 5" is just plain awkward to use and I start getting hand cramps after about 10 minutes of use. While all the "mini" variations of newer phones seem to be underpowered or lacking in features. :/ If it wasn't for the screen sizes, I'd quite happily go for something like a LG G4 or an Asus Zenfone 2.. *sigh* Such gorgeous phones.
On a related note (and within as much as anyone can trust people's "opinions" on the internet), I have seen a fair number of people complaining online about the higher heat generated by the Snapdragon 801 chips included in the original M8, which is another reason I'm so interested in the M8s with it's SnapDragon 615 chip.
So, just to check, are there any plans to create a forum for this device? Or is there simply not enough demand for it..?
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For the HTC One M8s, check here: HTC One M8s - Support? by Richylitschy.
And here: HTC One M8S: Cyanogenmod 11 and 12 Discussion by voidzero.
Or here: [M8QL_UL] Custom Recovery / RUU / Root - HTC One M8S by El-Conkistador.
As it is not that popular (yet), you have to check/use the general HTC One M8 forums.
If you want to get other users advices and opinions about suggesting a new device, best to ask in the **DEVICE SUGGESTION THREAD** -- Not sure what device to buy? Ask here! by KidCarter93 thread.
Thread closed. Thank you!