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A grateful NOOB says hello - and I could care less about an official ICS update

I rooted my phone last night and now I'm seeing just how amazing the ROMs are. My wife looks at me like I'm nuts when I tell her about it so I needed this place to share my excitement.
I'm using the overclocked ICS Multiple Flavors right now and I never want to go back! (To be on the safe side I stashed aside a factory backup and a backup of how I had the phone prior to installing the ROM.)
Now I really don't care if I get the official ICS update. Not after seeing what the developers can cook up.
Cheers!

While your enthusiasm for the dev of our phone is just, and we do have some great roms, I would hardly go as far as saying not to care for official ICS. Mostly because without Official ICS it is unlikely we will ever see 100% stable/functional ICS Roms
SkyICS is nice, but its NOT ICS, it's themed to look like ICS. BIIIIIG Difference.
Note: It's what I'm running and I love it, its great, but I still want ICS .

Captivate kk4 based rom opinions.

Just curious about what everyone's opinions are about the roms out there based on kk4. I'm on cyanogenmod 7.2 Kang build right now, but after upgrading my wife's phone to official gingerbread I'm thinking about going back to a stock based rom. Seems really fast and smooth. Mainly I'm looking for a rom with the Tmobile theme engine and screenshot capabilities as I'd miss those if I left cyanogenmod. I'm still debating whether or not to go back to a stock based rom.
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I like the roms, nice and fast, good bluetooth.
No lag except that damn gallery bug, but i get that on other versions and on stock rogers gingerbread aswell.

Cor-master said:
Just curious about what everyone's opinions are about the roms out there based on kk4. I'm on cyanogenmod 7.2 Kang build right now, but after upgrading my wife's phone to official gingerbread I'm thinking about going back to a stock based rom. Seems really fast and smooth. Mainly I'm looking for a rom with the Tmobile theme engine and screenshot capabilities as I'd miss those if I left cyanogenmod. I'm still debating whether or not to go back to a stock based rom.
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Opinions are like buttholes...just flash it and decide for yourself...going back to what you're running now if you don't like it is not difficult.
Qawnman said:
I like the roms, nice and fast, good bluetooth.
No lag except that damn gallery bug, but i get that on other versions and on stock rogers gingerbread aswell.
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Go to the market, get quickpic, you'll forget about the stock gallery entirely.

Well really just curious what everyone's using. Honestly there doesn't seem to be as many supported stock-based roms as their was on the earlier GB betas. I always used Cognition, but the most current version hasn't had an update since like July. I'm happy with Cyanogen for the most part, though it seems a bit buggier than stock. Really I just want a stock based rom with the theme engine and screenshot feature.

Cor-master said:
Well really just curious what everyone's using. Honestly there doesn't seem to be as many supported stock-based roms as their was on the earlier GB betas. I always used Cognition, but the most current version hasn't had an update since like July. I'm happy with Cyanogen for the most part, though it seems a bit buggier than stock. Really I just want a stock based rom with the theme engine and screenshot feature.
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Neither of which exist on stock, and the first being impossible on stock.

I could of swore I've seen theme support in some of these roms. Either way guess I can always use uot kitchen.
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I didn't see what the big deal was about screenshots but in the month and a half I've had cyanogenmod I've found I use the feature all the time
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There are apps in the market that allow this. Shoot me is what i use...it also has a video feature, that will take a screen shot every so many seconds (depending on what you set it to) and then make it an mp4.
Oh and for theme support on a tw ROM, go to the market and get darky ota that should work. It injects the proper images and compiled xmls INTO the existing ROM, I've used it on mosaic, should work on all tw roms, I'd make a backup zip of the framework-res.apk and systemui.apk first though, that you can flash if it doesn't work. Or just reflash the ROM.

Cor-master said:
I could of swore I've seen theme support in some of these roms. Either way guess I can always use uot kitchen.
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Yeah, but no theme engine. You have to flash them. Only the collectives have themes, and the others may have ICS themes.

I've thought about maybe just going to stock, removing the bloatware, installing corn kernal, installing a screenshot program, and then using UOT to get my themeing the way I want and calling it a day. That could work I suppose.
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Cor-master said:
I've thought about maybe just going to stock, removing the bloatware, installing corn kernal, installing a screenshot program, and then using UOT to get my themeing the way I want and calling it a day. That could work I suppose.
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Theres already a rom like that. Check it out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358180
Ive been using it for about a week now and its really stable. It comes with an older corn kernel though so you might want to flash the new one.

Nice! Thanks!
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I'm using the KK4-based version of SauROM (note that there's an I9000-based version too, which I haven't tried). It's mostly pretty nice, except that after a full day or maybe day and a half of use, the browser tends to go loopy. It freezes up and becomes non-responsive, and appears to be hogging the CPU, as hitting the home button doesn't repsond either. If I just put the phone down and walk away for half an hour, it's usually fine again when I get back, but I tend to just reboot instead which also fixes it. I find this annoying, but it's just infrequent enough to be tolerable. I've been meaning to try a different ROM to see if it's universal or not.

Cor-master said:
Just curious about what everyone's opinions are about the roms out there based on kk4. I'm on cyanogenmod 7.2 Kang build right now, but after upgrading my wife's phone to official gingerbread I'm thinking about going back to a stock based rom. Seems really fast and smooth. Mainly I'm looking for a rom with the Tmobile theme engine and screenshot capabilities as I'd miss those if I left cyanogenmod. I'm still debating whether or not to go back to a stock based rom.
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Well I was on stock rogers 2.3.3. and I found it very laggy. no matter what launcher I used: go, adw, lp, even sbp shell. after a while lag would start up that would require a reboot or the phone would just shut off. Games would start out fine then start lagging. I then flashed cm7 and noticed an immediate improvement with minor overclocking but I would still get that lag, but not as bad as stock.
I then flashed teamhacks 4.0.3 ics rc14. I can never go back to GB. It is so intuitive, very smooth. The transitions are amazing. Even with no overclocking it is miles faster than stock or CM7. I was considering buying a new phone but now I will not be.
Since you are on cm7 now why don't you flash ics . its very simple to do since you already have cm7 installed. then you can decide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363760
Hope this helps!

shaker2k said:
Well I was on stock rogers 2.3.3. and I found it very laggy. no matter what launcher I used: go, adw, lp, even sbp shell. after a while lag would start up that would require a reboot or the phone would just shut off. Games would start out fine then start lagging. I then flashed cm7 and noticed an immediate improvement with minor overclocking but I would still get that lag, but not as bad as stock.
I then flashed teamhacks 4.0.3 ics rc14. I can never go back to GB. It is so intuitive, very smooth. The transitions are amazing. Even with no overclocking it is miles faster than stock or CM7. I was considering buying a new phone but now I will not be.
Since you are on cm7 now why don't you flash ics . its very simple to do since you already have cm7 installed. then you can decide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363760
Hope this helps!
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I thought about it, but I'm kind of waiting for stable CM9 to be complete first. I hear it has an issue with rebooting during calls. Trust me though I'm very eager to try out ICS. I ended up going with Illuminance, so far so good. I'm currently restoring all my apps ATM. I'll report back after I"m done.
This is off topic but why is Titanium backup soo sooo slow? Why do I have to sit there and say "install" and "done" on everything? I wish I could have all the time back in my life I spent restoring stoff with titanium backup

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I thought about it, but I'm kind of waiting for stable CM9 to be complete first. I hear it has an issue with rebooting during calls. Trust me though I'm very eager to try out ICS. I ended up going with Illuminance, so far so good. I'm currently restoring all my apps ATM. I'll report back after I"m done.
This is off topic but why is Titanium backup soo sooo slow? Why do I have to sit there and say "install" and "done" on everything? I wish I could have all the time back in my life I spent restoring stoff with titanium backup
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I too was reluctant to go from CM7 to CM9, but I eventually flashed it just to check it out, with no intention of staying. Long story short, I've been using CM9 for the past two weeks and it's definitely stable enough to be a daily driver, IMHO. I believe the phone call reboot was solved (I've never had it anyway), the only issue I have had was charge death, but that was solved by switching to the Glitch kernel. If you are waiting for it to be stable, your time may have come
As far as TB is concerned, the paid version lets you batch restore your apps. Well worth the $5 or however much it was.

So far so good on ilkuminance but I miss my screen shot feature, and all the apps in the market suck. Why would I want a camera icon hogging up my screen? Anyway, I may try ICS sooner than later
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I ran all of the stock GB roms, was not super impressed with them, switched to the SauROM KK4 and Love it. Very smooth, seems less buggy then stock kk4. Have had a few issues of it being unresoponsive for a minute or so everyonce in a while, but it seems to be rare.

Try SauromKK4 or FastyKK4
Advantage of SauROM is that it is one click Heimdall, and really hard to mess up.
I then tried Fasty - also pretty good.
I got the impression that SauROM is smoother.
But that Corn 7.0.5 kernel is buggy - beware!

I tried a few of the KK4 roms, but eventually went back to CM7 and Kangs because the speed and responsiveness.
Now I have a Captivate Glide and am waiting for dev to ramp up for it. The Glide is what I really wanted when I got the original a year and a half ago, so I am happy.

[Q] Pros and Cons of various ICS ROMS now out

Hi All,
Any of you folks with extreme ORD tried many of the different ICS froms yet?
- a very silly question I'm sure! -
I have been following with building anticipation since the leak, but since the Fiscall Year was coming to a close at work I didn't dare begin experimenting for fear of getting sidetracked and losing what little sleep time I had left.
I would really like to hear the pros and cons of some of the various flavours of ICS now available in the "Skyrocket's One Stop Shop for All Things ICS 4.0!" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1573218 thread...
I'm on Rogers, and am especially interested in things like best radio for sound quality and LTE txfer speeds (there are only 2 so far right?), and what apps specifically are removed from the "debloat" versions... I obviously have zero need for ATT apps, but some of the Samsung bloatware might still be useful to me. Can TW be tossed out and replaced just as easily as with GB? I've been pleased with ADW EX, and would probably stick with it unless there's something more ICSish with as much functionality?
Of course I (and others I'm sure) would love to hear anything you have to offer about speed, interface, quality, bugs, workarounds, etc... I have tried to piece it together from the various ROM threads, but first hand comparisons between the ROMS don't seem to be there.
If there's another compare and contrast thread I apologize, but I did in fact search for "Pros and Cons", and "Rom Differences", and "ICS Comparison", but didn't come up with anything Skyrocket except GB stuff.
Thanks in advance for any comparisons you folks have to offer up.
Jamie

I would also like to have a short list of pros and cons for each
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1st attempt
Well there were no takers to post their experiences, so I figured I'd go ahead and start logging my own attempts...
Tried Silver's ROM collectiveics.zip first because it looked to be the easiest and least risky but no joy for me.
I backed everything up and flashed as per the instructions and got a boot loop.
Used recovery to wipe but still no success.
Restored my original stock Rogers GB ROM.
Then tried again with his themed version (collectiveics3.zip) but had exactly the same experience but this time also tried flashing ics kernal when the boot loop happened... no change.
Restored again.
I reported it in the appropriate thread and see that a few others have the same issue... Silver asked for ROM, and CWM version to try and isolate a common issue. I see others having the problem have also responded.
I was using CWM version 5.0.2.7 and from what I can see, so were others... I flashed a different CWM ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472954 ) this morning and will try flashing Silver again after work. If it still doesn't work, I will move on to a different ROM and report the experience back here again. (I WILL tell you if it worked too of course)
Jamie

I have tried several of the ICS roms thus far, and the only one that I have had zero problems with has been the MHX Superlite 4.2. I really liked the look of the Nexusmod ICS rom, and the trebuchet launcher included, but it was a bit buggy and I could never get fix permissions to run, either. I have noticed that every time I flash a rom now, it takes a bit longer than the time before for the phone to settle after the initial boot.

my understanding is thus.
(there is no harm flashing nandroids back forth)
so long got nandroid no problem from there..
Best gb rom. QuickWiz never updated.
2nd best gb rom silver (for looks alone lol)
Going try mx gb rom next
WHEN ics roms are considered my understanding is this. There not up to par for a daily driver yet. Sure they work but your going to have a problem with something. Now I never tried one but off of what others say your going to have issues with at least one part of it so I say why bother? Wait a bit longer for them to stabalize. Im going try gb mx rom think going be the one I want.
Sucks though I love the theme on silver.... guess could stick to it. Im ocd about roms I want them perfect

I've been using mhx's ICS Superlite 4.2 for a few days now. It's stable enough for daily use, in my opinion. I've not experienced any of the common problems listed in mhx's thread (shutdown stick, FC's, TB not restoring), everything's working perfectly. The only problem I had was caller ID not showing, but that was easily fixed by flashing another radio. So far my Skyrocket is running smoothly and I'll probably stick with mhx's ROMs from now on.
One thing I think is very important that a lot of people overlook when flashing - USE DARKSIDE SUPER WIPE! Whether you're going from GB to ICS or simplying upgrading from existing ICS, as long as it's a full-wipe ROM, Darkside it. I've been able to escape a lot of common FC problems by doing so.

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I've been using mhx's ICS Superlite 4.2 for a few days now. It's stable enough for daily use, in my opinion. I've not experienced any of the common problems listed in mhx's thread (shutdown stick, FC's, TB not restoring), everything's working perfectly. The only problem I had was caller ID not showing, but that was easily fixed by flashing another radio. So far my Skyrocket is running smoothly and I'll probably stick with mhx's ROMs from now on.
One thing I think is very important that a lot of people overlook when flashing - USE DARKSIDE SUPER WIPE! Whether you're going from GB to ICS or simplying upgrading from existing ICS, as long as it's a full-wipe ROM, Darkside it. I've been able to escape a lot of common FC problems by doing so.
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I've held off so far on ICS but i think I'll get my feet wet this weekend. Strange you recommend darkside wipe. I'm certain Silver said not to darkside wipe for his ICS rom. There does seem to be a disconnect between some of the instructions and results people are having thus . I guess this is to be expected at this point.

I "darkside wipe" religeouslybefore every full wipe rom flash and never experience the fc's (@least not from leftover data).
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I have flashed the following three ics roms on my rogers i727r and here were my results (They may vary and be different from yours this is just MY experience)
1. Nexus ICS Beta 3
Pros:
-Beautiful themeing done by M0D
-Very stable and dependable as dd
Cons:
-Battery Life was not so great for me
2. SuperLite 4.2
Pros:
-Stable and reliable
-Strong ROM support by mhx
-Great battery life
Cons:
-Not AOSP feelish like other roms (you can always flash a theme and be happy though )
3. SensatioN
Pros:
-Fast!
-Strong dev and theme support by the pair
-Quick response to questions and concerns
Cons:
-I am not much for the theme right now (waiting for wail01x to drop his next beta)
-Full of bloat off the start takes some heavy removal (my opinion)
Thats it for me so far will report later after i feed the addiction of ORD

can you flash any theme to any rom
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Try using cwm touch for flashing.
I'm on nexus ics and it looks great. No real major bugs so I'm using it as a daily driver. I can't comment on battery life yet but I will once I cycle a few times. Doesn't seem as snappy as gb roms though.
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bacheezy said:
I "darkside wipe" religeouslybefore every full wipe rom flash and never experience the fc's (@least not from leftover data).
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I also do this religiously and have had great luck with it. However, it never fixed the nexus ICS install for me, and I tried flashing it several times on a couple of download tries with issues.
I've upgraded to MHX 4.3 today, and it seems to be great as a daily driver. It's smooth, fast, and tiny. Apex launcher is nice, too.

Update
Flashed the latest Odin version of CWM, and as I type, I've got a full backup going for archive to my PC so I can try the MHX Superlite 4.5 ('cause it's a full wipe flash)
I will report back the results in a bit but had to do something while I wait for the backup...
IF it works OK my next step will be the UCLC5 modem... Wish me luck ;-)
Jamie
Well... So far so good. Flash went well and in the process of restoring apps... Liked Silver's theme but MHX seems more stable so far... Will edit again when the apps are working...
Arrrgh
UCALC5 modem seems to have increased my reception at the cost of useability... LONG pauses between every screen change... going to flash is again and if it doesn't settle in I'll either go back to 4 or erstore GB again... have to drive a thousand km tomorrow and can't have an "iffy" phone.

mx gb super light amazing.
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Working ICS
I could not make things work with the UCALC5 modem. It just wouldn't play nice with any ROM I flashed... Superlight was working but the modem killed it... reflashed the UCALC4 modem and then flashed the collective ROM and I have a working ICS phone Had to get a TiBu update to get my apps back because the one in the ROM is broken but now my apps are restored and all is right with the world (but I need to get used to Apex I think... and set it all up... Anxiously awaiting his updated one.
Aargh... Should have installed most of the apps from the market... acore keeps FCing on me again now. I suspect it's got something to do with the data restore... Thought I was careful about what I let it restore but I must have let something slip through that it doesn't like... sure is tough to sign on to the market to try and update Apex when your keyboard keeps dissapearing before you have your gmail password typed. :-(

most roms doesnt have battery roms. and the ones that do, (ICS), have the shutdown/reboot issue.

I've tried all of the different ICS roms available to us as of today. I'm really beginning to think that even following install directions to the letter will still give varied results for different people. Probably many small factors that cause this to happen. I've personally had many issues with lag and freezing of user and system apps, even after multiple installs with multiple wipes on each ROM. The only ROM so far that has been the most problem free is the Superlite ROM in my experience. I'm two days on it now and not had even one single bit of lag and zero freezing. I can't say any of the other ICS roms have had the same solid results as this.
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Yah I have wanted to root and flash an ICS ROM for my Rogers i727R lately but none seem stable enough that I would be happy with the results. I will prolly wait for the OTA ICS update from Rogers . God knows when that will be. Then i will root seems like the best bet at this point

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Yah I have wanted to root and flash an ICS ROM for my Rogers i727R lately but none seem stable enough that I would be happy with the results. I will prolly wait for the OTA ICS update from Rogers . God knows when that will be. Then i will root seems like the best bet at this point
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Check last post date in the future bud. Anything past a week or so is frowned up, as afterwards its considered a dead thread. Exceptions being stickies

nandroid limits? Also ICS vs GB? silver...

So I came from quick qiz gb rom. I loved it. Fast quick great bat life everything want. No CIQ...
however... I saw great stuff about silver rom GB... ics themed so I grabed it and I gotta say its slick. Im confused about what it comes with but its fun.. IM getting addicted to flashing its so much fun.
However. I keep making nandroids of my roms... is there any bad side to flashing from nandroid to nandroid? Is there anything I should watch for? I ask because I like idea of going from ICS to GB ... I have get to install a ICS rom I just wonder should I watch for anything is there some info I need?
Anthing im missing...
Also whats the reason for ICS I know why you would want it but what advantages does it have over GB if any at this point of time? I have read of issues but no ICS bonus's
side note can you uninstall TouchWiz launcher

flash darkside in between and you'll be fine. Alot of people wanted ics for the gui, i wanted it for the new kernel with better features, including rendering gui with gpu, which isbwhat makes it so smooth. A first step towards smothness of ios, which was gpu rendered from the beginning.
I've installed golauncher and removed touchwiz on every rom i ever flashed, including all the ics ones, so yes.

alright I also need to flash the modem when going when GB to ICS right? just double checking... im not quite ready to flash ICS but I want get a nandroid of it just in case want to use it later. Dang android needs push that out! sounds super cool

The best ROM for my Infuse?

I'm looking for a good stable FAST rom. Only main things that have to work is Wifi / Bluetooth / 720p recording / All camera stuff. ( I will give up the camera stuff for a huge performance increase if need be. From GB to ICS)
Thats it, I'd prefer a ICS ROM but I can't find ANY of them that doesn't have at least a few bugs with the camera. I would also like a OC'd Kernel. I'd be mostly using the phone for Gaming. and stuff like that...Right now I'm running ZEUS. Im about to flash with AEON 1.4 right now...
Let me know if anyone has a suggestion, And sorry if this is in the wrong section...

If camera is an issue for you, stay on gingerbread.
Sent from my sweet & buttery Infuse

The best ROM really depends on individual user preference; however, I have used various GB, ICS, and JB ROMs and my favorite and the one I'm using now is CypherROM Build 2.
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Personal preference really. If you want GB stability, I would suggest trying Mind of Mac v1.4. If you want JB, I have run the unofficial CM10 4.1.1 which was really good. Now I'm on ParanoidAndroid 2.12, which, for me, is the best I have used. Try different ones, find out which one you like and suits your needs. I think for your requirements, I would stay with GB. Going from GB to JB requires some extra steps also. Have fun!

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Personal preference really. If you want GB stability, I would suggest trying Mind of Mac v1.4. If you want JB, I have run the unofficial CM10 4.1.1 which was really good. Now I'm on ParanoidAndroid 2.12, which, for me, is the best I have used. Try different ones, find out which one you like and suits your needs. I think for your requirements, I would stay with GB. Going from GB to JB requires some extra steps also. Have fun!
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I agree with what Trickster03 said, but on Paranoid Android I flashed UCKL2 and the wifi speeds are wonderful, for the recording, youll need to stay on stock