New to this forum (i'm a cdma hero guy)...but, my wife is considering an EVO Shift 4G and theyre selling them for a penny on Amazon (sprint is still asking 99.99...yeah right). Anyway, i've read some things about a lot of people complaining about the performance after the sprint gingerbread update and the physical keyboard having a lot of problems after a while. Are these widespread concerns with this phone? Or, isolated incidents?
Our contract is up and i'm trying to get my wife to switch from blackberry to android and she insists on a physical keyboard....
Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks!
Any software problems I had with it were resolved when I rooted and flashed any of the amazingly stable ROMS on this site like MikShifted, Supreme Sense or newSENSE (my personal favorite Atm). As far as the keyboard, I DID have one hardware problem with screen going out after six months... idk. But Sprint was really good about replacing it for free. I most definitely recommend it. I love mine!
If my phone had a leg, I'd totally be humping it right now lol...
bigmoneygrip23 said:
New to this forum (i'm a cdma hero guy)...but, my wife is considering an EVO Shift 4G and theyre selling them for a penny on Amazon (sprint is still asking 99.99...yeah right). Anyway, i've read some things about a lot of people complaining about the performance after the sprint gingerbread update and the physical keyboard having a lot of problems after a while. Are these widespread concerns with this phone? Or, isolated incidents?
Our contract is up and i'm trying to get my wife to switch from blackberry to android and she insists on a physical keyboard....
Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks!
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My Shift is hands down one of the best devices I've ever owned. Highly underrated, once rooted the Shift is a BEAST. Easily able to match, and sometimes beat the performance of a lot of the devices out there. There are plenty of Great Roms to choose from, once Rooted. Enough to suit anyone's preferences. I've had mine since a day before official release, and absolutely recommend it to anyone .
Yes deffinitly agree with prboy on this phone unless HTC comes out with a new slider me and my shift are in it for the long run. Had mine a few days after release never had any hardware issues with it and would recamend it to anyone
after owning a Shift and a regular 4g, would definitely go for a 4g instead. As with all slider phones, the keyboard springs will become loose. Mine did. Qwerty keyboards aren't as reliable as a virtual keyboards basically, and with the insane screen real-estate of the 4g, the keyboard is easily comparible to the ease of the Shift.
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Qwerty keyboards aren't as reliable as a virtual keyboards .
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lolwat
davilleirt said:
after owning a Shift and a regular 4g, would definitely go for a 4g instead. As with all slider phones, the keyboard springs will become loose. Mine did. Qwerty keyboards aren't as reliable as a virtual keyboards basically, and with the insane screen real-estate of the 4g, the keyboard is easily comparible to the ease of the Shift.
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There are no, none, zip, zilch, zero springs in the shifts keyboard... Evo's suck... My wife has one, nothing you can say will change my mind. If a big screen and crappy outdated hardware is what you're looking for, get an evo... If you want a beast that even after 1 year on the market it is still a relevant device get the shift. And the absolute nonsense about a virtual keyboard trumping a hardware keyboard isn't even worth responding too. Show me an evo that can linpack like this and than we can start talking... And no, I didn't cheat on the score.
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Wow. I was under the impression that the 4G would perform a little better....good to hear. Going to the sprint store today, so we'll see what happens (Amazons sale ended, doh!)
I'm sure I'll be back to get some rooting tips. Thanks to all.
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I own both an OG EVO, and the EVO Shift. Hands down I'll take the Shift. I can OC higher, it equals or beats my OG EVO on everything. Only give is the screen size. But it's not enough to make me choose it over the Shift ever.
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I got mine with that .01 sale through Amazon... I kind of wish I did a little more research and gotten a Photon for $50. Mainly for the dual core processor and longer (larger) battery life. I was sold on the shift for 3 things, QWERTY keyboard, FM Radio & HTC's experience with Android (GF had a G1 when they first came out). The biggest reason for me was the physical keyboard, I had developed a very negative opinion about on screen keyboards from my iPhone, iPad, Kindle Fire friends frustrations with predictive text and fat finger phenomenon.
There are other more human elements I have come to enjoy about my Shift. Such as the size, I happened into a radio shack that had a Photon on the display rack and +0.4"w x +0.5h" x -0.13" is a bigger difference than the numbers let on. The screen looked huge and quite lovely, but holding the Motorola in my hand with its relatively thin frame and side button locations made finding ways to hold and use it awkward. With the depth of the Shift it sits well in your hand and the volume control buttons being the only side button lets you find a comfortable way to hold it. I also like the weight of the Shift, it doesn't disappear in my pockets and that helps me keep it safe from harm. At first I was a little put off by the lack of a spring assisted slide, but then agreed with nearly everyone else here that simpler was indeed better in this regard. Best part about a slider phone... I can put a property tag on the backside of the display allowing me to take it into my workplace without some garish chrome sticker glaring at me whenever I'm away from work.
Now some things I do notice that make me regret it. Power, I get maybe 4 - 8hrs out of my battery. I take it off the charger, use it to listen to FM (8hrs) or Streaming Radio(4hrs) for about 4 hours and get it home where it needs to charge. Processing, 800mhz single threaded... now the guys here have done wonderful things with their roms to allow the cpu to hit 1,200mhz but that gets the phone cooking hot as well. It also doesn't get around the fact that it is just a single core when most Android devices now are sporting two, you feel it going between applications. Bouncing between things on a Kindle Fire feels much more responsive with less load times than the Shift. 4G, maybe its my area (PDX) but this phone does not hold onto 4G at all. I've tried it downtown I've tried in the west hills, works great if I don't move but its not something I can leave on (and really you don't want to as battery consumption increases) and expect to still be connected when I pull the phone back out to check on what I told it to do with the 4G. These are not deal breaking issues, for me they really reinforce the devices role as a phone and portable information device; It won't be replacing my desktop, maybe a laptop if I got a bluetooth full size keyboard.
Dogan
It does a little bit of everything, kinda like me.
What Rom are you running? What kernel? What recovery? These are all things that are going to effect the performance of your Shift .
Indeed!
For S&G's, Mikshifted-G 2.1 about to put the landscape rosie and inverted clock mods on it. Not as pretty as supremesense or cyanogenmod but I got a good flash going this time apparently and everything seems to be working smoothly.
Dogan
It lasted 14days before I rooted it.
That's a lifetime to me
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If you're not already convinced go with the Shift, especially if you don't like virtual keyboards... It's not that I can't use them (I swype when its short or I'm feeling lazy or only wanna use one hand) but they cause too many autocorrect errors and I would rather type out what I wanna have it say than have my phone guess.. They're not that smart yet. The Shift has a second generation Qualcomm processor opposed to the Evo's first, if I remember right the Shift performs the same at 800 Mhz as the Evo at 1 Ghz, this means better battery life. In the end it's about your preferences and what you want in your phone, compare the possibilities and find the best choice for you. That's what I did and I got the Shift. And cuz I hate Samsung
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If you're not already convinced go with the Shift, especially if you don't like virtual keyboards... It's not that I can't use them (I swype when its short or I'm feeling lazy or only wanna use one hand) but they cause too many autocorrect errors and I would rather type out what I wanna have it say than have my phone guess.. They're not that smart yet. The Shift has a second generation Qualcomm processor opposed to the Evo's first, if I remember right the Shift performs the same at 800 Mhz as the Evo at 1 Ghz, this means better battery life. In the end it's about your preferences and what you want in your phone, compare the possibilities and find the best choice for you. That's what I did and I got the Shift. And cuz I hate Samsung
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Actually the Shift at even 800mhz out performs the Evo at 1ghz.
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Actually the Shift at even 800mhz out performs the Evo at 1ghz.
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By a lot! Shift oc'able to 1.6-1.8ghz... Evo oc'able to 1.2ghz anything more lock it up... Evos suck
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My OG EVO4G will not go any higher than about 1.1gHz no matter what kernel I tried. As for my Shift with almost every Kernel it will easily hit 1.8gHz . All day with no issues
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Sweet. We actually bought it last weekend, so I did end up going with the Shift ($49.99 at Best Buy...not bad).
But, now i'm jealous. I think i want to keep it for myself and not let my wife use it. . Just need to figure out which ROM to go with. Stability is probably the biggest thing with her. She doesn't care about OC'ing. But, it'd be nice to get some Sense 3.0+ features like the lockscreen and the ability to swipe notifications out of the way (like i can with aosp 2.3.7 roms on my hero). This stock ROM has launcher redraws and "Loading..." every time you go back to it, it seems.
Haven't rooted yet, but i just need to make sure she doesn't accept any OTA updates before i get a chance. Its not at 2.3.4 and from what I gather, that makes it a bigger pain in the arse.
I enjoy the physical keyboard, so obviously I am biased. But this phone is great. I got mine about two weeks after release and just today, once again, I am amazed at what it can do. The devs working with this phone are still churning out new roms and kernels. It will take a lot to get me to trade this phone in. Thanks again to all the devs that help with the shifty
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Quite simply i have decided its about time i get myself a new 'high' end android phone. I have owned the HTC Magic (32b) for some time now and while i do like it very much i feel its a bit week when it comes to multi tasking and new versions of android i feel arnt completely stable on it as they just are not built for this old phone.
So anyway its time for me to pick a new phone, but im just not sure which to go for. I like the look of either the Nexus one, Motorola Milestone or the HTC desire all for there own reasons.
Both the Nexus One and HTC desire to me seem to be pretty much the same apart from that the Nexus One has already got froyo and that the HTC desire has sense UI and optical track ball thingy.
While the Motorola Milestone i like very much for its qwerty keyboard and i believe it has the best GPU (am i right?). The Motorola is also the cheaper of the phones which is always a plus.
So my question to all of you is what are your thoughts on the different phones and which would you pick? are there any other features i should take into thought? or other phones?
I like the Nexus One and the Desire.
I forget it the Desire has a snapdragon processor as well? If yes, I'd go for that one. The body is really really sexy and the optical trackball is a step ahead of the trackball on the n1.
However, I really like the N1. IMO it's one of the most underrated phones out there. Battery life is 12 to 14 hours moderate / light use. One thing to be aware of, the speaker is tiny and the phone doesn't ring very loud compared to the Blackberry I had before.
As far as I remember the HTC Desire lacks the active noise cancellation and the triband HSDPA/WCDMA. I don't know what exactly you are planing to use your new phone, but I (considering the huge amount of time I spend internet browsing), I'd take the Nexus One.
I'd also take into consideration the fact that the Nexus comes with a bit more powerful battery than the HTC Desire. I own a HTC Magic too. Every time I keep my wi-fi connection on for more than 2-3 hours, the battery runs out and the phone shuts down, which can is sometimes very annoying.
thank you all for your input ^^ i have noticed that four people have clicked 'other' it would be nice if you do this to post something telling me which phone you would rather have
I think the Samsung Galaxy S is going to be the new king of android... I have the same problem - can't make my mind what to get.
If I would go for Android I certainly will wait for this one...
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But I´m not going for Android
IMO the best Android phone is the EVO 4G, if you´re on Sprint. It all depends on what you are going to do with your phone, do you really need the 1 Ghz processor and such HIGH-end specifications?
Hi there
First off, I came across this info while researching phones a while ago (~6 weeks ago), but I'm pretty sure that this is STILL the case.
You mentioned the Motorola Milestone as a potential candidate. I would recommend you NOT get this phone. This is because while the Motorola Droid can be rooted and use ROMs, be overclocked (to 800MHz! get that one lol) etc, the Milestone's bootloader is locked down by Motorola which means that you can NOT install 'custom' ROMs on it, you're stuck with the stock ROM (at least until Motorola actually decide to open up the bootloader).
It's not a matter of waiting for someone to crack it either; apparently they've signed the bootloader and not released their signing keys (sorry, I'm not sure of the technical details), which makes it pretty much impossible to load up anything because it will check the signature before loading anything.
So while I don't really have a real suggestion, I may have narrowed down your choices. Do investigate thoroughly if the next phone you buy really is 'open' or just 'open for marketing/advertising purposes'!
Happy hunting
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the Milestone's bootloader is locked down by Motorola which means that you can NOT install 'custom' ROMs on it, you're stuck with the stock ROM (at least until Motorola actually decide to open up the bootloader).
It's not a matter of waiting for someone to crack it either; apparently they've signed the bootloader and not released their signing keys (sorry, I'm not sure of the technical details), which makes it pretty much impossible to load up anything because it will check the signature before loading anything.
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thanks dude, i think that pretty much knocks the milestone out of the running, got to love my custom roms
Sure np
Do make sure your next phone doesn't have such a stupid restriction.
I'm looking for a new phone as well, even though the one I have is perfectly fine and zippy (HTC Hero GSM with the Cronos ROM) haha
The one thing I AM sure of is that I definitely require a physical keyboard! Touchscreen isn't good for hooves like mine lol
Guess I'll watch this thread too, for suggestions
I noticed you wrote milestone instead of droid.
do not get the milestone.
If you can, try to get an unlocked droid (I for one need a keyboard), but don't get a milestone since motorala locked it up making it unrootable (so far).
besides that I'd get a N1, I've played with a friends and it's pretty sleek, very fast and all around great
Two words: Nexus One
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I noticed you wrote milestone instead of droid.
do not get the milestone.
If you can, try to get an unlocked droid (I for one need a keyboard), but don't get a milestone since motorala locked it up making it unrootable (so far).
besides that I'd get a N1, I've played with a friends and it's pretty sleek, very fast and all around great
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As im in the UK i cant easly get a droid, and alot of the ones on ebay that say they are a droid are the milestone, is there any easy way of telling them apart?
I was a former milestone user, and the draconian attitude of Motorola regarding the bootloader led me to swap it for an HD2. Now I am in rom-flashing heaven. The HD2 is miles ahead of the milestone in terms of customizability and usability.
BUt to answer your question, AFAIK, Droid = CDMA while Milestone = GSM. So if you are using a GSM network in UK, a Droid is out of the question, and you can only use the (locked) Milestone.
Im also in the same bandwagon, observing the android landscape, looking for what phone to get (looks like android for the HD2 is gonna take awhile). Since HTC has yet to announce a GSM version of the EVO, the Samsung Galaxy is looking MIGHTY tempting. Cant beat a 4-inch super AMOLED screen.
if you CANT wait, then just get the Desire or the Nexus One. Im more partial to the Desire myself. I like Sense.
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Sure np
Do make sure your next phone doesn't have such a stupid restriction.
I'm looking for a new phone as well, even though the one I have is perfectly fine and zippy (HTC Hero GSM with the Cronos ROM) haha
The one thing I AM sure of is that I definitely require a physical keyboard! Touchscreen isn't good for hooves like mine lol
Guess I'll watch this thread too, for suggestions
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the TMobile MyTouch Slide is suppose to have a great physical KB. I hated the Hero's KB, in fact that's partly why I didn't get it. I tried the KB on the iPhone (amazing KB) and on the HTC EVO (really, really nice) and you'd be surprised how you get used to it.
Hope that helps.
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BUt to answer your question, AFAIK, Droid = CDMA while Milestone = GSM. So if you are using a GSM network in UK, a Droid is out of the question, and you can only use the (locked) Milestone.
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That's exactly right.
And since there aren't any CDMA-based networks in the UK, the Droid isn't an option at all.
In the UK, I can't really see why anyone would take the Nexus One over the Desire.
All you do is end up limiting yourself to Vodafone with their crappy web bundle and poor 3G coverage.
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Two words: Nexus One
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+1 it rocks big time! Especially with FroYo
Step666 said:
That's exactly right.
And since there aren't any CDMA-based networks in the UK, the Droid isn't an option at all.
In the UK, I can't really see why anyone would take the Nexus One over the Desire.
All you do is end up limiting yourself to Vodafone with their crappy web bundle and poor 3G coverage.
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sadly i havnt to be with vodafone has they are the only network that i can get coverage in my village
the TMobile MyTouch Slide is suppose to have a great physical KB. I hated the Hero's KB, in fact that's partly why I didn't get it. I tried the KB on the iPhone (amazing KB) and on the HTC EVO (really, really nice) and you'd be surprised how you get used to it.
Hope that helps.
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Thanks for the info, I'll check it out.
I've used the iPhone's keyboard too, and I also thought it was much better than the Hero's.
Still, I think I've pretty much had my fill of touch keyboards hehe
Or hold out for the HTC Vision if you want a hardware keyboard.
I finally got the mytouch today and i wasnt sure sure what to expext. But now i know.... this baby is a BEAST. Fastest phone i have ever used. The processor blows away the competition, by far! Internet wise, the 4G yeilds 6.5 mbps up 1.4 down. Also this the first Android phone that has smooth multitouch. Not choppy, and no lag. Also dont let pictures of this phone fool you, it is sleek and sexy. I got the black one. I definitely recommend it if you need a new phone or are thinking about getting one. What do you guys think?
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I finally got the mytouch today and i wasnt sure sure what to expext. But now i know.... this baby is a BEAST. Fastest phone i have ever used. The processor blows away the competition, by far! Internet wise, the 4G yeilds 6.5 kbps up 1.4 down. Also this the first Android phone that has smooth multitouch. Not choppy, and no lag. Also dont let pictures of this phone fool you, it is sleek and sexy. I got the black one. I definitely recommend it if you need a new phone or are thinking about getting one. What do you guys think?
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I checked it out in the T-Mobile store this evening. Seemed nice, but the UI really ircked me. It felt laggy and bloated, often lagging between the app drawer and menus. The device has nice hardware, to be sure, but it'll need perma-root to really shine.
I'm trying to decide whether I want to buy a G2 or MT4G, depends which gets full root first, I think. Or if the N2 rumors turn out to be true.
I can confirm the HSPA+ speeds are pretty snappy though. In Phoenix, the '4G' network is live, and I got similar speeds to what you got in the TMO store.
I might have to get one of these to accompany my G2... I like what I am seeing so far
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I might have to get one of these to accompany my G2... I like what I am seeing so far
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I have a MyTouch 4G and a G2.. I find myself having a hard time deciding between the two. The MyTouch is so powerful but I love stock Android.. They are both awesome devices.
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stop using espresso overlay and install launcher pro instead! works great and is SUPER FAST in the mytouch 4g!
This is by far the sickest phone I have ever used.
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Launcher pro plus is the way to go! This phone is More snappy than my rooted souped up nexus
Yes, launcher pro plus adds to what is already a great phone.
bijanian said:
I finally got the mytouch today and i wasnt sure sure what to expext. But now i know.... this baby is a BEAST. Fastest phone i have ever used. The processor blows away the competition, by far! Internet wise, the 4G yeilds 6.5 kbps up 1.4 down. Also this the first Android phone that has smooth multitouch. Not choppy, and no lag. Also dont let pictures of this phone fool you, it is sleek and sexy. I got the black one. I definitely recommend it if you need a new phone or are thinking about getting one. What do you guys think?
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Damn man, only 6.5 KBPS lol.
i must agree... my only disappointment is sense :/ i guess I'm just old fashion
lol and i know everyone says luncher pro but I perfer all aspects of stock (ie gallery for example)
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Damn man, only 6.5 KBPS lol.
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LLOL i was thinking the same thing.
If you try the phone at the store, remember that people have been screwing the demo phones up. The one at the store was so full of junk that it crawled.
The one I bought has been flawless. Even with Sense, and I came from an N1!
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If you try the phone at the store, remember that people have been screwing the demo phones up. The one at the store was so full of junk that it crawled.
The one I bought has been flawless. Even with Sense, and I came from an N1!
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I noticed this as well, and it irritated me, so I went through and started uninstalling crap.
Wish I'd installed LP to test it out, but didn't think of it until I got home.
Torn on the G2 to MT4G. Had my Droid 1 for a year now and I'm itching for something better.
Im loving these speeds
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oh yea and Sprint. i know a place you can take your battery drain and 4G fee
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Bateluer said:
I noticed this as well, and it irritated me, so I went through and started uninstalling crap.
Wish I'd installed LP to test it out, but didn't think of it until I got home.
Torn on the G2 to MT4G. Had my Droid 1 for a year now and I'm itching for something better.
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I always do factory resets on them.
I've had a G2, wasn't impressed with the weight, hinge or keyboard. Basically it was a fat N1 that felt a bit speedier. In comparison, this MT4G is great, super fast, the HTC keyboard is better than stock and the screen is accurate.
All total I've had a Sprint Hero, EVO, G2, Vibrant, and N1. This MT4G is tops by far.
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I always do factory resets on them.
I've had a G2, wasn't impressed with the weight, hinge or keyboard. Basically it was a fat N1 that felt a bit speedier. In comparison, this MT4G is great, super fast, the HTC keyboard is better than stock and the screen is accurate.
All total I've had a Sprint Hero, EVO, G2, Vibrant, and N1. This MT4G is tops by far.
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The MT4G I played with seemed to only have Swype as a virtual keyboard option, which I didn't care for. On my Droid 1, I use the HTC-IME keyboard for those few times I use the on screen keyboard.
You've obviously had more Android phones than me. I'm looking to buy a new phone for myself for Christmas, should have plenty of options, but I don't see Verizon offering me what I want.
Edit - Seems to be plenty of AOSP builds for the MT3G, a good sign once permanent root is achieved.
Bateluer said:
The MT4G I played with seemed to only have Swype as a virtual keyboard option, which I didn't care for. On my Droid 1, I use the HTC-IME keyboard for those few times I use the on screen keyboard.
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Press and hold on an text input box and select "Touch Input" instead of Swype.
This is definitely T-Mob's best production to date by far. After release of the G2 with the bulk of the physical kb & funky hinge I'm so happy to see a great, sleek, sexy, beast of an Andriod phone on T-Mob.
Bravo to T-Mob & HTC!
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coming from the vibrant, i love the quickness of the phone along with how sharp it displays text.
S-amoled is great and all, but its pentile arrangement of pixels renders jaggy-looking text.
I like everything about it except for the following:
1. Genius button. Wish it was software mappable. They shouldn't force us to use it. Just give me a regular search button and then make it an option of what it does when you hold down on it.
2. Speaker starts crackling on loud setting.
3. Wish it wasn't locked down so we could get easy root and swap roms. That goes for all the new phones, really.
Please every one bare with me here, the time has come for me to upgrade to a new phone, although i currently own a Dell Streak and its not bad for what i do, i need a smaller phone but that continues to carry a large screen, therefore i have narrowed it down to the inspire and infuse.
i checked youtube for video comparisons, didnt find any, so im posting a thread here hoping to get good answers. I highly doubt someone has both for any reason, but you never know.
should i jump with either of these two or pass and wait a bit longer for something better?
Cheers
Fox
I can only comment on the inspire.
That said this phone is just awesome, I've tried a captivate for a little bit and that wasn't too bad, but no HTC sense. For me sense is where it is at. Also this phone is going to be heavier than the infuse, its metal. It has a very solid feel to it and at this point I wouldn't trade it for any other phone out there.
Also if you like playing with roms there are prolly, not for sure, but most likely more roms for this phone as it has the desire hd in Europe as an almost exact match.
Of course you could wait for the holiday, but that is going to bee several months away.
HTC is better than Samsung when it comes to cell phones in my opinion.
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schinner16 said:
I can only comment on the inspire.
That said this phone is just awesome, I've tried a captivate for a little bit and that wasn't too bad, but no HTC sense. For me sense is where it is at. Also this phone is going to be heavier than the infuse, its metal. It has a very solid feel to it and at this point I wouldn't trade it for any other phone out there.
Also if you like playing with roms there are prolly, not for sure, but most likely more roms for this phone as it has the desire hd in Europe as an almost exact match.
Of course you could wait for the holiday, but that is going to bee several months away.
HTC is better than Samsung when it comes to cell phones in my opinion.
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yes i figured i would get more answers leaning towards the HTC since this is a HTC forum, but I would post this on the Infuse forum as well to see... if thats ok with the mods.
I like that you mentioned about the ROMS, ive been looking at both the infuse and HTC inspire, and the HTC has sooo many devs and ROMS, i love it.
coming from a dell streak.. if you go to the Dell Streak forum you will only see one developer, he can only do so much with what he has, and the roms are just too simple for my taste.
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yes i figured i would get more answers leaning towards the HTC since this is a HTC forum, but I would post this on the Infuse forum as well to see... if thats ok with the mods.
I like that you mentioned about the ROMS, ive been looking at both the infuse and HTC inspire, and the HTC has sooo many devs and ROMS, i love it.
coming from a dell streak.. if you go to the Dell Streak forum you will only see one developer, he can only do so much with what he has, and the roms are just too simple for my taste.
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You're also going to receive input from people biased against Samsung. There are a lot of former Captivate owners here who have a real problem with Samsung and the way they handled the Captivate issues. I happen to be one of them.
I will never buy another Samsung phone.
A pretty screen does not a reliable phone make.
HTC is a better phone. If the HTC Holiday comes out around December, that's the one to get, assuming they make good on their new bootloader policy and it comes unlocked,if you want to wait that long.
Otherwise, an inspire will keep you happy for a long time, and the dev section here is quite robust, as you can tell.
The screen on the Infuse is BARELY bigger than the Inspire but the phone is MUCH larger. Samsung gave it a lot of useless area at the top.
In the 1, or 2 side by side speed NON-SCIENTIFIC tests that I did, the Infuse had faster data transfer speeds.
If i were you i would wait for the galaxy s2 to come to att or somethin better then that. The inspire is really fast but its kinda getting outdated and the gs2 will last you longer.
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Inspire
I would go for Inspire as it has lot of roms. the only downside to it is battery life, but it depends on how u use, there are roms that can improve battery life.
Inspire hands down.. I hate samsung. but thats not the reason..
the infuse is nice. solid body construction.. nice screen.. very thin.. feels nice in hand.. and for me its fast.. and does what i need it to do..
the infuse. not much exp with it outside of messing with a co-workers infuse.. I felt like i could go on a killing spree with that thing. so huge... and felt cheap compared to my inspire..
I have had both and am going back to the inspire with the new Red inspire, the infuse is a ok phone but the big problem was the rooting, the actual rooting was easy but then you had to install a second recovery or e3 recovery in the phone with root explorer and then if you wanted to install a rom you had to use the red recovery instead of the green recovery or you would mess up the phone. Just to many thing to mess with and remember for a simple process. The choice of roms is also worthless and they are not all that great. I would say forget the infuse and get a inspire.
Take it from a former Captivate user. Inspire all the way. I just am not happy with the way Samsung handles issues with phones. Releasing os updates and such. GPS issues on there phones. Froyo took almost a yr to drop to the Captivate. HTC phones on other carriers were getting it much faster.
There is a 50 dollar difference in the price and that 50 bucks is not worth it for just a smidgen better screen. Sense is so much better then touchwiz.
Both communities have good development. I don't think i will be looking at another samsung phone. I'll stay with them for computer lcd's but going to be with htc from here on out.
Got an Infuse the day they came out, Used it for three weeks then traded it in for an Inspire. The 4.5 inch screen was great, since I was used to the big screen of a Streak. downside was weak radios, GSM,Wifi, and 3G. I had no problems with build quality or size. The screen colors were over saturated and sort of cartoonish. My$.02
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Take it from a former Captivate user. Infuse all the way. I just am not happy with the way Samsung handles issues with phones. Releasing os updates and such. GPS issues on there phones. Froyo took almost a yr to drop to the Captivate. HTC phones on other carriers were getting it much faster.
There is a 50 dollar difference in the price and that 50 bucks is not worth it for just a smidgen better screen. Sense is so much better then touchwiz.
Both communities have good development. I don't think i will be looking at another samsung phone. I'll stay with them for computer lcd's but going to be with htc from here on out.
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I think you meant "inspire" instead of "infuse"... I hope
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I think you meant "inspire" instead of "infuse"... I hope
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Yes I did. Edited the post. Had a migraine all day.
i was holding both in my hands, comparing them.
ended up with the inspire.
there was also the $80 difference to consider.
infuse $149 vs. inspire $79 + 15% military discount.
the infuse was jsut too big for my hands,
it felt like a glock double stack 9millimeter made of plastic as comapred the inspire which seems like a 1911 with slim grips all metal feel.
rekehs said:
i was holding both in my hands, comparing them.
ended up with the inspire.
there was also the $80 difference to consider.
infuse $149 vs. inspire $79 + 15% military discount.
the infuse was jsut too big for my hands,
it felt like a glock double stack 9millimeter made of plastic as comapred the inspire which seems like a 1911 with slim grips all metal feel.
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Like a Kimber 1911.
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Like a Kimber 1911.
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dont get me started....2kimbes, kimber team match 2 and a kimber eclipse, the 3rd one is a signed rob laetham discontinued springfield 1911 TGO = the great one
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dont get me started....2kimbes, kimber team match 2 and a kimber eclipse, the 3rd one is a signed rob laetham discontinued springfield 1911 TGO = the great one
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Drool!!!!!!!
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With an upgrade available, the Inspire on AmazonWireless is $0.01 with no (most states) tax. Considering the Infuse is at least $100 everywhere, it became an easy choice for me.
Hey folks.
I've seen several comparison threads on the Infuse around here. Although it's nice to compare the Infuse with other (newer) devices out there, a thread can derail very quickly or become a flame-fest.
That's why I thought of starting this comparison thread, which can be stickied and will be the ONLY comparison thread in General. Others will be closed.
Every pro and cons may be discussed, as long as we watch our language and play nice.
Discussion may start....
Now.
I'll start, cons:
NEED MOAR CORES!!!
...and more RAM... and a better GPS.
Pros:
Everything else!
Who agrees?
i completely disagree, batterylife is so-so as it is with the stock firmware, what would it be with another core to support? ram is not an issue if it is managed correctly, more ram just gives app developers an excuse to get lazy. try the 99tweaks mod in dev section and ignore the reported free ram, it is insignificant information.
gps, well we know samsung sux at that :/ it is wonky and has worse reception than my captivate (not to say it works worse, that would be a lie but my captivate can loc in places that my infuse can't it just takes longer and tracks like **** if agps is enabled)
needs 1080p recording, i think the gpu is marginal for that ability but i think if they had real talent in their software department it could be "possible" though i know it will never happen.
You also have to consider majority over minority. A large amount of people that pick up these phones don't know what "rooting" or flashing firmwares and all that can do. The average Joe will just minimize the app and keep going. They want to have a phone that works out the box without a need to jump through hoops.
Adding more to something already good is never a bad thing. Basically it would be a SGSII with a bigger screen, and last I checked it's probably one of the most popular phones on the market to this date.
Yall thinks it worth giving up the Infuse for the Nexus Prime when it hits the market in a few months??
im thinking of getting it, and giving the infuse to my mom - she needs the big screen..lol
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Yall thinks it worth giving up the Infuse for the Nexus Prime when it hits the market in a few months??
im thinking of getting it, and giving the infuse to my mom - she needs the big screen..lol
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all up to you buddy. i think there is too much emphasis on hardware, yeah hardware is cool and benchmarks are cool but the infuse has raw capabilities that some tegra powered phones dont have in video playback.. like i said earlier there isnt much the phone can't do. but obviously the infuse is near the bottom of the barrel when it comes to 2011 phones as far as hardware goes. i would say pick up the next nexus and see if it tickles you a certain way, you will be assured that it will have the best firmware at any givven time. if the nexus doesnt do it for you then return it.
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I'll start, cons:
NEED MOAR CORES!!!
...and more RAM... and a better GPS.
Pros:
Everything else!
Who agrees?
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Hm...I disagree. My phone has been able to manage everything well with a single core, and RAM has never been an issue. (Maybe on stock, but then again, I flashed a ROM as soon as I got it so yeah)
And I don't get what the problem with GPS is. Maybe I live in a place where Sammy is er...I have no idea what to say but yeah. I live in New Jersey and I haven't had a GPS issue so far...
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all up to you buddy. i think there is too much emphasis on hardware, yeah hardware is cool and benchmarks are cool but the infuse has raw capabilities that some tegra powered phones dont have in video playback.. like i said earlier there isnt much the phone can't do. but obviously the infuse is near the bottom of the barrel when it comes to 2011 phones as far as hardware goes. i would say pick up the next nexus and see if it tickles you a certain way, you will be assured that it will have the best firmware at any givven time. if the nexus doesnt do it for you then return it.
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yea, wont really know till i pick it up. Thats True.
It's crazy. I like some things about my infuse, I like some things about my thrill
I keep swapping back and forth between the two.
I no longer have any interest in the SGS2....but I do look forward to seeing what ATT does with LTE around Christmas
I have a HTC Sensation and an Infuse 4g and believe me battery consumption on Dual Core Sensation is annoying and i throw it away. Infuse has good battery life and does everything with a single core. My next phone will probably be a Galaxy Note depending on battery.
here is Infuse with 4.5 and galaxy S2 with 4.27" (<--look like 4 inches!").
phone size is only a little bigger, but your eyes will notice the HUGE screen different! if it' not 4.5, i dont want it!
update: try to look at each screen for 5 seconds, then you will see the HUGE screen different!
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Wait, you have both? Does the dual core and the extra 512megs of RAM make a difference?
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Wait, you have both? Does the dual core and the extra 512megs of RAM make a difference?
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i only noticed the galaxy S2 (dual core) boots up and loads webpages with flashes faster. other than that, i dont noticed that much different since i overclocked my infuse to 1.6Gzh with bedwa kernel.
Now when it comes to battery life on the GSII based on your normal use, would you say it was worse or same/similar?
Reason I'm asking is because I never really messed with a dual core android unit... yet, but was curious what real improvements they bring other than benchmarks.
I liked running my Infuse at 1.6Ghz, but could never find the right voltage to keep it going while maintaining a great battery life.
Btw, thanks for the input, kinda changed my perspective on DC phones a little.
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Now when it comes to battery life on the GSII based on your normal use, would you say it was worse or same/similar?
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battery life is about the same on both phones, after 8 hours at work,
I have about 20% battery left. I mostly surf the web while on break and lunchtime.
Now I underclocked the Infuse to 800mzh during work hours, after 8 hours I have about 40% left.
The Infuse is the first smartphone I've owned, I can only compare to other phones I've played with for a short time. I run the Infused 2.1.0 with 1.6 Infusion 1.1 kernel, and my Infuse is faster than many others. The battery life is great, I'm on my phone for about 4-5 hours talk time, and heavily use web, music and the occasional game. I can get a day and a half worth out of the battery before charging. If I dont use those, sometimes I can go 3 days. I dont see much difference with dual cores. If the phone was ran stock, yes, you can tell noticeable difference. I do wish it could record in 1080, but thats not that big of a deal. Never had a problem with GPS, or anything else I can think of.
Infused 2.1.0
Infusion GB Kernel 1.1
Is that an Infuse in my pocket
or am I just happy to see you?
Does anyone know of any place where you can actually use NFC?
Infuse
I have to say after being on my first Android Phone making the jump from WinMo to my Cappy and learning about Roms, tweaking and modding I was excited to make the next jump to the next Android phone. I had 30 days after purchase that I was going to use the Infuse and then make the transition to the SGSII for the bump in power and performance but sacrificing the minor screen downsizing. But after experiencing and reading many users inputs and advice I decided to hang on to the Infuse. I am finding the power is perfect for what I want and need (Mostly email, Text and web) I hardly use the GPS or maps (Currently Frozen in TIBU at the moment) and battery life is average or comparable to all others I have read about. I found that most user that get extraordinary long battery life is due to no SIM and WiFi only use, as I have done and got two days out of my battery before at the sacrifice of connectivity availability. But overall I think the infuse is comparable if not better phone than most and I would like to see more development and activity for this device even though its not the "Most Popular" phone on the block at the moment.
I just saw the sgs2 att comercial and gotta say it looks quite sexy. but ill wait and see things like Rom compatibility with the international version and final hardware specs. there were rumors that Samsung would use tegra2 chips in some markets. not really sure about that but hope that we get the Orion chip.
it may be better to wait for the galaxy s 3 or whatever comes next but the att gs2 does look good.
NeoS2007 said:
Hey folks.
I've seen several comparison threads on the Infuse around here. Although it's nice to compare the Infuse with other (newer) devices out there, a thread can derail very quickly or become a flame-fest.
That's why I thought of starting this comparison thread, which can be stickied and will be the ONLY comparison thread in General. Others will be closed.
Every pro and cons may be discussed, as long as we watch our language and play nice.
Discussion may start....
Now.
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Thank you Neo!!!!
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I have to say I am still pretty happy with my Nexus-S 4G. I am loving the stock/vanilla Android OS, after trying many different ROM's and launchers, I always seem to go back to the "pure" launcher and style. I do have the Oxygen ROM which is the base Android OS just tweaked and stripped to be very fast with good battery life.
I was tempted to get the Sprint Galaxy S2, while it is a great phone, probably the best Android device for sale right now, it just did not seem night and day radically better than my Nexus-S. The S II still runs Gingerbread and looks so similar to my Nexus I don't see the need to get that phone right now. And my Nexus is not slow by any means. I am eagerly waiting for the reveal of the next Nexus-Three device with "Ice Cream", that would be the first to tempt me away, or at least get Ice Cream running stock on my Nexus-S.
If there is any beef with this phone, it is the radio/network, and Sprint's poor 3G service lately. Hopefully we get good news next month when the CEO of Sprint discusses the future network plans on Oct 7th.
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Yeah I'm not complaining at all about it. I was running Pete's bb rom before this and his rooted stock before that. Now, I'm running miui. I thought, coming from the preference of vanilla ui, that who in the hell would want a rom that's a cross bastardized version of ios and touchwiz? I am/was under the thought that ios was very limited on what could be done with it.
Miui is really starting to grow on me. I'm almost ashamed to admit I'm getting the itch to get a new phone after my ns4g and it being the iPhone. I definitely want the nexus 3 too but those phones will probably be released very close to each other.
Unfortunately, I will have to deal with the looks and comments from my old lady, whenever I get a new phone. I will not give my ns4g to her because I see how she treats phones. I suppose one thing that would keep her quiet is if I got her an iPhone too. About 1500 for two new phones, full price, not eligible for upgrades yet. Sigh, it's only money right?
Yes.
10chars?
I plan to run this phone til the wheels come off.
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I plan to run this phone til the wheels come off.
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+1 x 10 = hell yeaaaaa.
I came from the g2x and can never be happier with this ns4g
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nexus s is my first smartphone and i would not try another the next time ...
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nexus s is my first smartphone and i would not try another the next time ...
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Nexus s is my first REAL smartphone
I've had or used extensively a mt3g, epic 4g, evo 4g, evo shift 4g, Droid x, huawei ascend 2 and an iPhone 3gs and of those I like my nexus the best. However, my mother in law just got a sensation 4g and if I'm honest, I think I'd enjoy that better.
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So I take it you prefer android over iPhone? Care to share your reasons for liking one and not liking the other?
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So I take it you prefer android over iPhone? Care to share your reasons for liking one and not liking the other?
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Open source. Multitasking. Variety. Google. Etc.
Edit: scratch that. Nexus S 4G.
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IMO, Nexus S is a piece of outdated hardware, since day 1, when it was release last year December 2010, at that very same time its brothers/cousins have been having way much better spec than it does.
the pure Android experience was not as fun as promised by the Nexus One hyped owners promised
So my next device will most definitely not be Nexus 3, which is yet another outdated antique, its SGS2 brothers/cousins has waaaaaaaaay better hardware than it does.
and we all know by now that support across Samsung devices is thriving like CM7 and all the countless of customized kernels and mods that you can find
The 2nd reason why i picked Nexus S, was simply because it was unlocked and works on AWS signal
there was nothing at the time, else i'd have most likely gone for a better phone
the lack of the SD slot is a major drawback, can't do things as i used to, i'm not having fun as i used to, all because of the missing space, the phone is just a phone right now, can't enjoy it as it ran out of space all the time, no matter how much stuff i send up to the clouds, there is never enough space for me
clouds is not cheap either if you don't have an unlimited internet for the phone
and the 3G speed is not that great to send up and down 500 meg of data whenever you feel like playing another game, or watching another movie
i'm sure this phone is more than enough or even great for most people, but i'm not most people
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I personally prefer android because of the ease of customization that can be done even without rooting. iOS devices are great, don't get me wrong. I'm not an iHater, but for me and my uses they don't work as well as Android. The reason iOS is so great is that it just works. Period. From the first boot to the last, an iOS device is going to work exactly like Apple intended it to.
The Android Vs. Apple debate is much akin to the Win Vs Mac debate. Apple builds its software to work on its hardware and it does, thats the reason I buy Mac laptops; in the 6 years I've owned them I've had three issues two of which were hardware failures and one was my wife's fault (she spilled soda on the keyboard). All three of the issues were solved on the spot by Apple with a total of 5 hours and $0.00 of my time and money lost to waiting and repairs. Five hours. When my wife's Compaq laptop got its THIRD motherboard recall in TWO years it took me three hours on the phone to find out I had found out about the recall one week late and was then told it would cost me $400 dollars and 4-6 weeks to get it. I ended up having to manually recover what data I could from her hard drive and the rest was lost.
Windows machines allow the user to do much more personal customization and give them much more choice in terms of hardware but the cost of that is a much higher level of system failure. Its the same way with android. I can't begin to account for the hours I've wasted setting up and customizing my wife's and my phones only to have issues come up and its all lost. I've lost count of the number of times I've had to run terminal commands to get my phone to even boot. If I had an iOS device, that probably wouldn't happen but I'd also not feel like my phone UI looks and runs like I want it to.
In a rather long-winded and round-a-bout way, the point I'm getting at is that if you want a phone that simply works, makes calls, gets texts, so and and so forth then iPhone is a great choice. But if you want a phone that you can hack to bits and make to be a reflection of your personality then Android is you choice. That's my opinion at least.
yes and no
leagues happier than my iphone but some what less impressed by others android phones. But hey it was free.
I don't understand everyone complaining of a lack of SD slot. It mounts so you can use it as a portable drive, it also allows a much higher I/O. There's not one thing that a removable SD card would allow me to do more than what I can do now except potentially lose a tiny piece of my phone.
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the internal SD doesn't have enough space, it just as simple as that
13GB fills up in a blink of an eye
I'm still happy with it for the most part. The only serious gripe I have at this point is RAM; it doesn't have enough to deal with the number of apps that like to run in the background eating up those tiny 2-5 MB chunks these days, and it doesn't always dump them from memory efficiently enough to play memory-intensive games nicely without first going in and killing processes. Also, it just came back from its second Best Buy repair, so... a little touchy hardware-wise perhaps.
I like vanilla Google and am not a huge fan of rooting and modding, though, so I'd be reluctant to move away from the Nexus line. I just hope the next one has a lot more RAM, and keeps a larger portion of it free at any given time for gaming. And is maybe less prone to needing to be fixed. >.>
RAM is not that bad, i can manage to constantly keep 75Mb free
is hard to trip enough Widgets to make that much free RAM
and make sure to not leave any app/game running in the background
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RAM is not that bad, i can manage to constantly keep 75Mb free
is hard to trip enough Widgets to make that much free RAM
and make sure to not leave any app/game running in the background
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Seriously? 75mb? Running services will always show me 240mb+ free ram.
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RAM is not that bad, i can manage to constantly keep 75Mb free
is hard to trip enough Widgets to make that much free RAM
and make sure to not leave any app/game running in the background
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The problem is when apps and games do run in the background, and there's no way to close them completely without going through task manager. Granted that's as much a complaint about the apps in question as about Android itself, but there will always be apps that don't behave properly in all respects. The OS should be able to handle them without user intervention.
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The problem is when apps and games do run in the background, and there's no way to close them completely without going through task manager. Granted that's as much a complaint about the apps in question as about Android itself, but there will always be apps that don't behave properly in all respects. The OS should be able to handle them without user intervention.
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Every app I exit out of, I exit with the back button for an exit dialog or use the menu-exit option. Never have 'stuff running'.
Some apps have components that always run(new facebook and google+ updates), I uninstall those apps and use the browser.
I don't experience what you're describing.
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