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myTouch 4G - the best phone to date

I finally got the mytouch today and i wasnt sure sure what to expext. But now i know.... this baby is a BEAST. Fastest phone i have ever used. The processor blows away the competition, by far! Internet wise, the 4G yeilds 6.5 mbps up 1.4 down. Also this the first Android phone that has smooth multitouch. Not choppy, and no lag. Also dont let pictures of this phone fool you, it is sleek and sexy. I got the black one. I definitely recommend it if you need a new phone or are thinking about getting one. What do you guys think?

bijanian said:
I finally got the mytouch today and i wasnt sure sure what to expext. But now i know.... this baby is a BEAST. Fastest phone i have ever used. The processor blows away the competition, by far! Internet wise, the 4G yeilds 6.5 kbps up 1.4 down. Also this the first Android phone that has smooth multitouch. Not choppy, and no lag. Also dont let pictures of this phone fool you, it is sleek and sexy. I got the black one. I definitely recommend it if you need a new phone or are thinking about getting one. What do you guys think?
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I checked it out in the T-Mobile store this evening. Seemed nice, but the UI really ircked me. It felt laggy and bloated, often lagging between the app drawer and menus. The device has nice hardware, to be sure, but it'll need perma-root to really shine.
I'm trying to decide whether I want to buy a G2 or MT4G, depends which gets full root first, I think. Or if the N2 rumors turn out to be true.
I can confirm the HSPA+ speeds are pretty snappy though. In Phoenix, the '4G' network is live, and I got similar speeds to what you got in the TMO store.

I might have to get one of these to accompany my G2... I like what I am seeing so far

Blackman778g said:
I might have to get one of these to accompany my G2... I like what I am seeing so far
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I have a MyTouch 4G and a G2.. I find myself having a hard time deciding between the two. The MyTouch is so powerful but I love stock Android.. They are both awesome devices.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

stop using espresso overlay and install launcher pro instead! works great and is SUPER FAST in the mytouch 4g!

This is by far the sickest phone I have ever used.
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Launcher pro plus is the way to go! This phone is More snappy than my rooted souped up nexus

Yes, launcher pro plus adds to what is already a great phone.

bijanian said:
I finally got the mytouch today and i wasnt sure sure what to expext. But now i know.... this baby is a BEAST. Fastest phone i have ever used. The processor blows away the competition, by far! Internet wise, the 4G yeilds 6.5 kbps up 1.4 down. Also this the first Android phone that has smooth multitouch. Not choppy, and no lag. Also dont let pictures of this phone fool you, it is sleek and sexy. I got the black one. I definitely recommend it if you need a new phone or are thinking about getting one. What do you guys think?
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Damn man, only 6.5 KBPS lol.

i must agree... my only disappointment is sense :/ i guess I'm just old fashion
lol and i know everyone says luncher pro but I perfer all aspects of stock (ie gallery for example)

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Damn man, only 6.5 KBPS lol.
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LLOL i was thinking the same thing.

If you try the phone at the store, remember that people have been screwing the demo phones up. The one at the store was so full of junk that it crawled.
The one I bought has been flawless. Even with Sense, and I came from an N1!

ekinnee said:
If you try the phone at the store, remember that people have been screwing the demo phones up. The one at the store was so full of junk that it crawled.
The one I bought has been flawless. Even with Sense, and I came from an N1!
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I noticed this as well, and it irritated me, so I went through and started uninstalling crap.
Wish I'd installed LP to test it out, but didn't think of it until I got home.
Torn on the G2 to MT4G. Had my Droid 1 for a year now and I'm itching for something better.

Im loving these speeds
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oh yea and Sprint. i know a place you can take your battery drain and 4G fee
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Bateluer said:
I noticed this as well, and it irritated me, so I went through and started uninstalling crap.
Wish I'd installed LP to test it out, but didn't think of it until I got home.
Torn on the G2 to MT4G. Had my Droid 1 for a year now and I'm itching for something better.
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I always do factory resets on them.
I've had a G2, wasn't impressed with the weight, hinge or keyboard. Basically it was a fat N1 that felt a bit speedier. In comparison, this MT4G is great, super fast, the HTC keyboard is better than stock and the screen is accurate.
All total I've had a Sprint Hero, EVO, G2, Vibrant, and N1. This MT4G is tops by far.

ekinnee said:
I always do factory resets on them.
I've had a G2, wasn't impressed with the weight, hinge or keyboard. Basically it was a fat N1 that felt a bit speedier. In comparison, this MT4G is great, super fast, the HTC keyboard is better than stock and the screen is accurate.
All total I've had a Sprint Hero, EVO, G2, Vibrant, and N1. This MT4G is tops by far.
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The MT4G I played with seemed to only have Swype as a virtual keyboard option, which I didn't care for. On my Droid 1, I use the HTC-IME keyboard for those few times I use the on screen keyboard.
You've obviously had more Android phones than me. I'm looking to buy a new phone for myself for Christmas, should have plenty of options, but I don't see Verizon offering me what I want.
Edit - Seems to be plenty of AOSP builds for the MT3G, a good sign once permanent root is achieved.

Bateluer said:
The MT4G I played with seemed to only have Swype as a virtual keyboard option, which I didn't care for. On my Droid 1, I use the HTC-IME keyboard for those few times I use the on screen keyboard.
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Press and hold on an text input box and select "Touch Input" instead of Swype.

This is definitely T-Mob's best production to date by far. After release of the G2 with the bulk of the physical kb & funky hinge I'm so happy to see a great, sleek, sexy, beast of an Andriod phone on T-Mob.
Bravo to T-Mob & HTC!
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coming from the vibrant, i love the quickness of the phone along with how sharp it displays text.
S-amoled is great and all, but its pentile arrangement of pixels renders jaggy-looking text.

I like everything about it except for the following:
1. Genius button. Wish it was software mappable. They shouldn't force us to use it. Just give me a regular search button and then make it an option of what it does when you hold down on it.
2. Speaker starts crackling on loud setting.
3. Wish it wasn't locked down so we could get easy root and swap roms. That goes for all the new phones, really.

New HTC devices plus a tablet at MWC

http://www.facebook.com/htcuk?v=app_7146470109
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/htc-launches-into-tablet-wars-with-1-5ghz-7-inch-flyer/
tablet looks very good

Well.. I'm really disappointed. I mean REALLY. When you compare the hardware it's almost nothing new.
HTC Desire S vs HTC Desire
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3776&idPhone2=3077
I'm a HTC fan since many years and it's hard for me to say this, but HTC is really behind now and is only trying to make money and sell us BULL****!!!
Just see the comparison and you will know what I'm talking about... minor changes. NOT EVEN THE PROCESSOR HAS CHANGED!!!
The Incredible S is also nothing new under the sun. Not even a dual-core processor... No 1GB of ram.
Seriously, HTC, WHAT THE ****?
The hardware specs of Galaxy S II can eat HTC's newest devices for breakfast.
And HTC really made a big mistake because right now it's no more about the software, it's the hardware that matters. Android is almost the same on all devices and with a community like XDA everything (costumization) is possible.
RIP HTC, I will never buy a device from you anymore.

I feel pretty let down by HTC's showing at MWC.
I was expecting an Atrix/Galaxy 2 rival (aka the Pyramid) and they show us unibodied versions of phones that have been out since last year with slightly bigger batteries running Gingerbread.
I don't know whether to jump ship to the Atrix or to wait and see if they produce the Pyramid at a later date.
I'm not particularly interested in the Tablet, and if I was to get one i'd get the Moto Xoom or Samsung Galaxy 10.1 as they are pretty much the same as each other anyway with stock Honeycomb, rather than a massively skinned and shelled Gingerbread device.
HTC needs to stop trying to insist upon making Sense the core product they are selling and start making some big leaps in hardware, and soon..

Fail
I was expecting a dual core android 2.4 phone with physical keyboard and a android 3.0 tablet. None arrived...

Very dissapointed.
Was hoping for the Pyramid - something to rival the Galaxy S2 in terms of hardware specs.
I really want a HTC and was waiting for this news to determine how to proceed.
If you want the technology the Galaxy S2 seems to be the handset to get, but Samsungs TouchWiz just doesn't even compare to HTC's sense.
For me its the Desire S for now.....I need Sense in my life.
WHERE IS THE PYRAMID!!!!!!

remind me again why i should get rid of my N1?
oh yeah nothing... HELLO!!!! HTC!!! are you even trying anymore?
the only thing turing me off of the Atrix was the possible locked boot loader, and wanting to see what HTC was about to push out....
now that we have one thing off the list.... i feel that i may be leaving HTC for a while until they get their act together... maybe thats what they need... sales not to climb like they have, an actual slap to their bottom line that says consumers are done buying the same thing over and over... but sadly, even with the numbers we have, until the masses relize this, HTC sale numbers will continue to rise and no real reason for them to change...
in their eyes, if it aint broke, why fix it?

for me, its a total dissapointment.
i mean WTF ARE THEY THINKING
its the same ****.. AGAIN
there is still no phone that would be a REAL upgrade to my HD2..
i hoped for a new flagship.. i hoped it so bad..
i hoped for something that would frag all others away.. but they stay at the same level.. just to get even more money out from the same old **** >.>
only good thing of htc this time was the tablet. but thats it, and i guess they will overprice it, so i won't get it
i'll stick to my HD2. **** you HTC, u idiots
Sent from my HD2

like all of you, I'm very disappointed... where is my Pyramid!!?

Meh, totally under-whelming.
Build quality of the Desire S sounds nice, and i wouldn't mind having one, but it's not specced any higher than my N1 and of course is full of 'Sense' crap which i'd have to nuke from orbit before using the thing.

im really thinking of totaly switching to moto now
the atrix and the xoom tab are just too cool...
and more sexy.

Whats up Guys @ HTC
Every Smartphone producer shows their flagships at MWC this week, and HTC???
Not even one word about the Pyramid is in planning?
Sure we have to wait...
(it was the same with the Snapdragon 1GHz Processor, the TG01 was 4 months before the HD2 out)
And im pretty sure the wait was worth it!
So now we can buy soon (non HTC ):
- Many Dual core (even different Processors) Phones
- 3D Display Phones
- Ultra bright Display ( 700 Nit - Daylight usable) Phones
- Ultra thin and light (Dual Core) Phones (~8,5mm)
And whats coming from HTC? - only a "Sense" with streaming, and an "new" Facebook Button
Where is the Successor of the HD2
Come on HTC, you have to be the carriers of technology, dont get lost in Software ...
Phones are still made out of Hardware!!!
Give the people a Dream - a Dream we want to wait for :
Oh, and this will be such an Dream:
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The Galaxy S II has some fantastic hardware, but I decided because of the complaints people have about software updates etc that I would wait and see what HTC had on offer before making up my mind. Having seen it I have to wonder what exactly are they thinking? Sure they're well built phones, but why do they feel satisfied in pushing out fairly old hardware.

Cheap(er) hardware sells in bigger numbers.

OldBloke said:
Cheap(er) hardware sells in bigger numbers.
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Of course. It may well be that they thought a more reasonably priced (if indeed they are reasonably priced) phone would be just what the market needs. It just seemed remarkably out of place for them to wax lyrical about phones that are remarkably similar to their current generation except with new software.

HTC should really make Sense downloadable through market as a launcher instead. I just hate it. It's ugly and doesn't really make a difference for me.
Regarding the new phones there is nothing really impressive. The new Tegra2 dual core phones that are coming out (LG and Motorola) will most likely blow any of those HTC phones away. I believe they also have integrated geforce graphics so nothing should really be an issue on those phones.
My Wildfire have been a disappointment so I wouldn't even consider a HTC phone again unless I was 100% certain I could make it good.

One devices than can beat the Desire HD?

I stopped paying attention to smartphones a long time ago.
But the HTC Flyer actually catches my attention as a useful Android tablet for once. No Honeycomb is a bummer (Android is already too fragmented!), but it does have an N-trig DuoSense digitizer and apps to use it with. More than I can say for a certain other US$800 Android tablet.
Maybe I won't have to keep looking specifically at Windows Tablet PCs for a viable pen and paper alternative.

Bummer! HTC where's the Pyramid and some Innovative devices??

galaxys said:
Bummer! HTC where's the Pyramid and some Innovative devices??
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yeah i really want my pyramid lol...said it on another thread and i will say it again...htc's releases have not been that great at least i didnt think so

[Q] HTC Inspire 4G vs Samsung Infuse

Please every one bare with me here, the time has come for me to upgrade to a new phone, although i currently own a Dell Streak and its not bad for what i do, i need a smaller phone but that continues to carry a large screen, therefore i have narrowed it down to the inspire and infuse.
i checked youtube for video comparisons, didnt find any, so im posting a thread here hoping to get good answers. I highly doubt someone has both for any reason, but you never know.
should i jump with either of these two or pass and wait a bit longer for something better?
Cheers
Fox

I can only comment on the inspire.
That said this phone is just awesome, I've tried a captivate for a little bit and that wasn't too bad, but no HTC sense. For me sense is where it is at. Also this phone is going to be heavier than the infuse, its metal. It has a very solid feel to it and at this point I wouldn't trade it for any other phone out there.
Also if you like playing with roms there are prolly, not for sure, but most likely more roms for this phone as it has the desire hd in Europe as an almost exact match.
Of course you could wait for the holiday, but that is going to bee several months away.
HTC is better than Samsung when it comes to cell phones in my opinion.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App

schinner16 said:
I can only comment on the inspire.
That said this phone is just awesome, I've tried a captivate for a little bit and that wasn't too bad, but no HTC sense. For me sense is where it is at. Also this phone is going to be heavier than the infuse, its metal. It has a very solid feel to it and at this point I wouldn't trade it for any other phone out there.
Also if you like playing with roms there are prolly, not for sure, but most likely more roms for this phone as it has the desire hd in Europe as an almost exact match.
Of course you could wait for the holiday, but that is going to bee several months away.
HTC is better than Samsung when it comes to cell phones in my opinion.
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yes i figured i would get more answers leaning towards the HTC since this is a HTC forum, but I would post this on the Infuse forum as well to see... if thats ok with the mods.
I like that you mentioned about the ROMS, ive been looking at both the infuse and HTC inspire, and the HTC has sooo many devs and ROMS, i love it.
coming from a dell streak.. if you go to the Dell Streak forum you will only see one developer, he can only do so much with what he has, and the roms are just too simple for my taste.

Foxhoundep3 said:
yes i figured i would get more answers leaning towards the HTC since this is a HTC forum, but I would post this on the Infuse forum as well to see... if thats ok with the mods.
I like that you mentioned about the ROMS, ive been looking at both the infuse and HTC inspire, and the HTC has sooo many devs and ROMS, i love it.
coming from a dell streak.. if you go to the Dell Streak forum you will only see one developer, he can only do so much with what he has, and the roms are just too simple for my taste.
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You're also going to receive input from people biased against Samsung. There are a lot of former Captivate owners here who have a real problem with Samsung and the way they handled the Captivate issues. I happen to be one of them.
I will never buy another Samsung phone.
A pretty screen does not a reliable phone make.
HTC is a better phone. If the HTC Holiday comes out around December, that's the one to get, assuming they make good on their new bootloader policy and it comes unlocked,if you want to wait that long.
Otherwise, an inspire will keep you happy for a long time, and the dev section here is quite robust, as you can tell.

The screen on the Infuse is BARELY bigger than the Inspire but the phone is MUCH larger. Samsung gave it a lot of useless area at the top.
In the 1, or 2 side by side speed NON-SCIENTIFIC tests that I did, the Infuse had faster data transfer speeds.

If i were you i would wait for the galaxy s2 to come to att or somethin better then that. The inspire is really fast but its kinda getting outdated and the gs2 will last you longer.
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Inspire
I would go for Inspire as it has lot of roms. the only downside to it is battery life, but it depends on how u use, there are roms that can improve battery life.

Inspire hands down.. I hate samsung. but thats not the reason..
the infuse is nice. solid body construction.. nice screen.. very thin.. feels nice in hand.. and for me its fast.. and does what i need it to do..
the infuse. not much exp with it outside of messing with a co-workers infuse.. I felt like i could go on a killing spree with that thing. so huge... and felt cheap compared to my inspire..

I have had both and am going back to the inspire with the new Red inspire, the infuse is a ok phone but the big problem was the rooting, the actual rooting was easy but then you had to install a second recovery or e3 recovery in the phone with root explorer and then if you wanted to install a rom you had to use the red recovery instead of the green recovery or you would mess up the phone. Just to many thing to mess with and remember for a simple process. The choice of roms is also worthless and they are not all that great. I would say forget the infuse and get a inspire.

Take it from a former Captivate user. Inspire all the way. I just am not happy with the way Samsung handles issues with phones. Releasing os updates and such. GPS issues on there phones. Froyo took almost a yr to drop to the Captivate. HTC phones on other carriers were getting it much faster.
There is a 50 dollar difference in the price and that 50 bucks is not worth it for just a smidgen better screen. Sense is so much better then touchwiz.
Both communities have good development. I don't think i will be looking at another samsung phone. I'll stay with them for computer lcd's but going to be with htc from here on out.

Got an Infuse the day they came out, Used it for three weeks then traded it in for an Inspire. The 4.5 inch screen was great, since I was used to the big screen of a Streak. downside was weak radios, GSM,Wifi, and 3G. I had no problems with build quality or size. The screen colors were over saturated and sort of cartoonish. My$.02

sparker366 said:
Take it from a former Captivate user. Infuse all the way. I just am not happy with the way Samsung handles issues with phones. Releasing os updates and such. GPS issues on there phones. Froyo took almost a yr to drop to the Captivate. HTC phones on other carriers were getting it much faster.
There is a 50 dollar difference in the price and that 50 bucks is not worth it for just a smidgen better screen. Sense is so much better then touchwiz.
Both communities have good development. I don't think i will be looking at another samsung phone. I'll stay with them for computer lcd's but going to be with htc from here on out.
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I think you meant "inspire" instead of "infuse"... I hope

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I think you meant "inspire" instead of "infuse"... I hope
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Yes I did. Edited the post. Had a migraine all day.

i was holding both in my hands, comparing them.
ended up with the inspire.
there was also the $80 difference to consider.
infuse $149 vs. inspire $79 + 15% military discount.
the infuse was jsut too big for my hands,
it felt like a glock double stack 9millimeter made of plastic as comapred the inspire which seems like a 1911 with slim grips all metal feel.

rekehs said:
i was holding both in my hands, comparing them.
ended up with the inspire.
there was also the $80 difference to consider.
infuse $149 vs. inspire $79 + 15% military discount.
the infuse was jsut too big for my hands,
it felt like a glock double stack 9millimeter made of plastic as comapred the inspire which seems like a 1911 with slim grips all metal feel.
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Like a Kimber 1911.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using the power of the dark side.

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Like a Kimber 1911.
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dont get me started....2kimbes, kimber team match 2 and a kimber eclipse, the 3rd one is a signed rob laetham discontinued springfield 1911 TGO = the great one
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dont get me started....2kimbes, kimber team match 2 and a kimber eclipse, the 3rd one is a signed rob laetham discontinued springfield 1911 TGO = the great one
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Drool!!!!!!!
Sent from my Inspire 4G using the power of the dark side.

With an upgrade available, the Inspire on AmazonWireless is $0.01 with no (most states) tax. Considering the Infuse is at least $100 everywhere, it became an easy choice for me.

[Q] Evo Shift Pros and Cons

New to this forum (i'm a cdma hero guy)...but, my wife is considering an EVO Shift 4G and theyre selling them for a penny on Amazon (sprint is still asking 99.99...yeah right). Anyway, i've read some things about a lot of people complaining about the performance after the sprint gingerbread update and the physical keyboard having a lot of problems after a while. Are these widespread concerns with this phone? Or, isolated incidents?
Our contract is up and i'm trying to get my wife to switch from blackberry to android and she insists on a physical keyboard....
Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks!

Any software problems I had with it were resolved when I rooted and flashed any of the amazingly stable ROMS on this site like MikShifted, Supreme Sense or newSENSE (my personal favorite Atm). As far as the keyboard, I DID have one hardware problem with screen going out after six months... idk. But Sprint was really good about replacing it for free. I most definitely recommend it. I love mine!
If my phone had a leg, I'd totally be humping it right now lol...

bigmoneygrip23 said:
New to this forum (i'm a cdma hero guy)...but, my wife is considering an EVO Shift 4G and theyre selling them for a penny on Amazon (sprint is still asking 99.99...yeah right). Anyway, i've read some things about a lot of people complaining about the performance after the sprint gingerbread update and the physical keyboard having a lot of problems after a while. Are these widespread concerns with this phone? Or, isolated incidents?
Our contract is up and i'm trying to get my wife to switch from blackberry to android and she insists on a physical keyboard....
Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks!
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My Shift is hands down one of the best devices I've ever owned. Highly underrated, once rooted the Shift is a BEAST. Easily able to match, and sometimes beat the performance of a lot of the devices out there. There are plenty of Great Roms to choose from, once Rooted. Enough to suit anyone's preferences. I've had mine since a day before official release, and absolutely recommend it to anyone .

Yes deffinitly agree with prboy on this phone unless HTC comes out with a new slider me and my shift are in it for the long run. Had mine a few days after release never had any hardware issues with it and would recamend it to anyone

after owning a Shift and a regular 4g, would definitely go for a 4g instead. As with all slider phones, the keyboard springs will become loose. Mine did. Qwerty keyboards aren't as reliable as a virtual keyboards basically, and with the insane screen real-estate of the 4g, the keyboard is easily comparible to the ease of the Shift.

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Qwerty keyboards aren't as reliable as a virtual keyboards .
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lolwat

davilleirt said:
after owning a Shift and a regular 4g, would definitely go for a 4g instead. As with all slider phones, the keyboard springs will become loose. Mine did. Qwerty keyboards aren't as reliable as a virtual keyboards basically, and with the insane screen real-estate of the 4g, the keyboard is easily comparible to the ease of the Shift.
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There are no, none, zip, zilch, zero springs in the shifts keyboard... Evo's suck... My wife has one, nothing you can say will change my mind. If a big screen and crappy outdated hardware is what you're looking for, get an evo... If you want a beast that even after 1 year on the market it is still a relevant device get the shift. And the absolute nonsense about a virtual keyboard trumping a hardware keyboard isn't even worth responding too. Show me an evo that can linpack like this and than we can start talking... And no, I didn't cheat on the score.
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Wow. I was under the impression that the 4G would perform a little better....good to hear. Going to the sprint store today, so we'll see what happens (Amazons sale ended, doh!)
I'm sure I'll be back to get some rooting tips. Thanks to all.
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I own both an OG EVO, and the EVO Shift. Hands down I'll take the Shift. I can OC higher, it equals or beats my OG EVO on everything. Only give is the screen size. But it's not enough to make me choose it over the Shift ever.
TEAM MiK
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I got mine with that .01 sale through Amazon... I kind of wish I did a little more research and gotten a Photon for $50. Mainly for the dual core processor and longer (larger) battery life. I was sold on the shift for 3 things, QWERTY keyboard, FM Radio & HTC's experience with Android (GF had a G1 when they first came out). The biggest reason for me was the physical keyboard, I had developed a very negative opinion about on screen keyboards from my iPhone, iPad, Kindle Fire friends frustrations with predictive text and fat finger phenomenon.
There are other more human elements I have come to enjoy about my Shift. Such as the size, I happened into a radio shack that had a Photon on the display rack and +0.4"w x +0.5h" x -0.13" is a bigger difference than the numbers let on. The screen looked huge and quite lovely, but holding the Motorola in my hand with its relatively thin frame and side button locations made finding ways to hold and use it awkward. With the depth of the Shift it sits well in your hand and the volume control buttons being the only side button lets you find a comfortable way to hold it. I also like the weight of the Shift, it doesn't disappear in my pockets and that helps me keep it safe from harm. At first I was a little put off by the lack of a spring assisted slide, but then agreed with nearly everyone else here that simpler was indeed better in this regard. Best part about a slider phone... I can put a property tag on the backside of the display allowing me to take it into my workplace without some garish chrome sticker glaring at me whenever I'm away from work.
Now some things I do notice that make me regret it. Power, I get maybe 4 - 8hrs out of my battery. I take it off the charger, use it to listen to FM (8hrs) or Streaming Radio(4hrs) for about 4 hours and get it home where it needs to charge. Processing, 800mhz single threaded... now the guys here have done wonderful things with their roms to allow the cpu to hit 1,200mhz but that gets the phone cooking hot as well. It also doesn't get around the fact that it is just a single core when most Android devices now are sporting two, you feel it going between applications. Bouncing between things on a Kindle Fire feels much more responsive with less load times than the Shift. 4G, maybe its my area (PDX) but this phone does not hold onto 4G at all. I've tried it downtown I've tried in the west hills, works great if I don't move but its not something I can leave on (and really you don't want to as battery consumption increases) and expect to still be connected when I pull the phone back out to check on what I told it to do with the 4G. These are not deal breaking issues, for me they really reinforce the devices role as a phone and portable information device; It won't be replacing my desktop, maybe a laptop if I got a bluetooth full size keyboard.
Dogan
It does a little bit of everything, kinda like me.

What Rom are you running? What kernel? What recovery? These are all things that are going to effect the performance of your Shift .

Indeed!
For S&G's, Mikshifted-G 2.1 about to put the landscape rosie and inverted clock mods on it. Not as pretty as supremesense or cyanogenmod but I got a good flash going this time apparently and everything seems to be working smoothly.
Dogan
It lasted 14days before I rooted it.

That's a lifetime to me
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11

If you're not already convinced go with the Shift, especially if you don't like virtual keyboards... It's not that I can't use them (I swype when its short or I'm feeling lazy or only wanna use one hand) but they cause too many autocorrect errors and I would rather type out what I wanna have it say than have my phone guess.. They're not that smart yet. The Shift has a second generation Qualcomm processor opposed to the Evo's first, if I remember right the Shift performs the same at 800 Mhz as the Evo at 1 Ghz, this means better battery life. In the end it's about your preferences and what you want in your phone, compare the possibilities and find the best choice for you. That's what I did and I got the Shift. And cuz I hate Samsung

bilgerryan said:
If you're not already convinced go with the Shift, especially if you don't like virtual keyboards... It's not that I can't use them (I swype when its short or I'm feeling lazy or only wanna use one hand) but they cause too many autocorrect errors and I would rather type out what I wanna have it say than have my phone guess.. They're not that smart yet. The Shift has a second generation Qualcomm processor opposed to the Evo's first, if I remember right the Shift performs the same at 800 Mhz as the Evo at 1 Ghz, this means better battery life. In the end it's about your preferences and what you want in your phone, compare the possibilities and find the best choice for you. That's what I did and I got the Shift. And cuz I hate Samsung
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Actually the Shift at even 800mhz out performs the Evo at 1ghz.
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Dread 7us said:
Actually the Shift at even 800mhz out performs the Evo at 1ghz.
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By a lot! Shift oc'able to 1.6-1.8ghz... Evo oc'able to 1.2ghz anything more lock it up... Evos suck
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My OG EVO4G will not go any higher than about 1.1gHz no matter what kernel I tried. As for my Shift with almost every Kernel it will easily hit 1.8gHz . All day with no issues
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11

Sweet. We actually bought it last weekend, so I did end up going with the Shift ($49.99 at Best Buy...not bad).
But, now i'm jealous. I think i want to keep it for myself and not let my wife use it. . Just need to figure out which ROM to go with. Stability is probably the biggest thing with her. She doesn't care about OC'ing. But, it'd be nice to get some Sense 3.0+ features like the lockscreen and the ability to swipe notifications out of the way (like i can with aosp 2.3.7 roms on my hero). This stock ROM has launcher redraws and "Loading..." every time you go back to it, it seems.
Haven't rooted yet, but i just need to make sure she doesn't accept any OTA updates before i get a chance. Its not at 2.3.4 and from what I gather, that makes it a bigger pain in the arse.

I enjoy the physical keyboard, so obviously I am biased. But this phone is great. I got mine about two weeks after release and just today, once again, I am amazed at what it can do. The devs working with this phone are still churning out new roms and kernels. It will take a lot to get me to trade this phone in. Thanks again to all the devs that help with the shifty
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CES 2013: Any Android QWERTY devices?

Any QWERTY devices planned for CES 2013?

Nope, but i know someone who has a "samsung pro" its like a bb but uses android
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There haven't been any great or awesome Global QWERTY Androids for the entire 2012! We are edging closer to the end of slide-out QWERTYs overall, however horrific that might sound. HTC has stated at the start of 2012, that it will not focus on QWERTY phones as it consists of only a small group of buyers. Samsung launches only mid-range QWERTY phones and that too only in the US, whereas Motorola who launches high-end QWERTY phones does so only in the US as well. Sony has launched only one proper QWERTY phone and that was way back in 2011 and I have absolutely never heard of a properly LG QWERTY phone. So I would be really surprised if we do see a high-end QWERTY phone that launches globally.

Sad...........just ****ing sad.

The last Motorola QWERTY was the Photon Q on Sprint released last August. It has decent specs 4.3" screen and 1.5ghz S4 processor, but its only on Sprint. The best spec'd GSM slider appears to be the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G on T-mobile but it has At&t 3G bands, no LTE though. It has a 4" screen and a 1.5ghz S4, but only a 5MP camera.

I've not used Android before, having started with Win 6.5 on an XDA, through an Xperia X1, and onto a HTC Win phone 7, all with qwerty keyboard... Win 7 was a let-down in terms of what I could do with Word and Excel, so I am looking at an Android phone, but the over-riding requirement is a landscape sliding qwerty keyboard - so should I wait for something new which may be on the horizon, or buy whatever is currently available (not that I know what that is even) whilst I still can?
Oh, I'm in the UK... which appears to limit me still further in choice!
Many thanks,
Tref.

Tref67 said:
I've not used Android before, having started with Win 6.5 on an XDA, through an Xperia X1, and onto a HTC Win phone 7, all with qwerty keyboard... Win 7 was a let-down in terms of what I could do with Word and Excel, so I am looking at an Android phone, but the over-riding requirement is a landscape sliding qwerty keyboard - so should I wait for something new which may be on the horizon, or buy whatever is currently available (not that I know what that is even) whilst I still can?
Oh, I'm in the UK... which appears to limit me still further in choice!
Many thanks,
Tref.
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Motorola used to sell their Droid qwerty series overseas except they called them Milestone and they were GSM. But the Milestone 3 was the last and is the same as my Droid 3 which is stuck on Android 2.3 GB officially. If there was a Milestone 4 I'd recommend that but there never was, unless you want to import a Droid 4 and get a SIM unlock code. Or theres the Galaxy S Relay 4G from T-mobile that you could import, its newer and should be easier to get working on GSM since T-mobile is GSM.

spunker88 said:
If there was a Milestone 4 I'd recommend that but there never was, unless you want to import a Droid 4 and get a SIM unlock code.
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Actually, Droid 4 is not SIM locked on Verizon, and it works on overseas GSM carriers with local SIM cards without any hacking as long as it has been updated to ICS (I'm writing this on one in Europe).

dsfdfsdfs said:
Actually, Droid 4 is not SIM locked on Verizon, and it works on overseas GSM carriers with local SIM cards without any hacking as long as it has been updated to ICS (I'm writing this on one in Europe).
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I was interested a while ago in buying a Droid 4 and use it in Europe. I decided to wait for the CES and obviously i waited for nothing.
I'd be totally glad and thankful if you can share a bit of your feelings about yours. Site reviews are nice things, but user's feelings are always better.
Thanks.

monsieur_max said:
I was interested a while ago in buying a Droid 4 and use it in Europe. I decided to wait for the CES and obviously i waited for nothing.
I'd be totally glad and thankful if you can share a bit of your feelings about yours. Site reviews are nice things, but user's feelings are always better.
Thanks.
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I'd be suprised not to see a Droid 5 this year, I always thought it was a popular brand for Motorola?
Never bothered with importing a Droid 4, the LTE band (700Mhz only) is worthless here in the UK. Perhaps we will see a rise in keyboard-cases for those of us who would like a keyboard. There are some decent ones for the iPhone and some chinese ones for the Note.

saiyanora said:
I'd be suprised not to see a Droid 5 this year, I always thought it was a popular brand for Motorola?
Never bothered with importing a Droid 4, the LTE band (700Mhz only) is worthless here in the UK. Perhaps we will see a rise in keyboard-cases for those of us who would like a keyboard. There are some decent ones for the iPhone and some chinese ones for the Note.
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Any news? The situation in Europe is quite sad.. I can't understand why Motorola canceled its XT898, which could have been some sort of hope.
On the other side, Droid 4 has locked bootloader (after the Milestone I said to myself, never again), and to get to work a Photon Q is not that easy.
I don't get why no producer cares releasing a single damn QWERTY phone in Europe. Maybe they're not so popular, but given it would be the only one, I think it should have some sort of success!

I love my qwerty devices, but they're becoming rarer and rarer. After buying a Nexus 7, I think I could live without a physical keyboard and might jump on the GS4 boat.

T-Mobile G2 (Desire Z) user here and ashamed there isn't any modern, new QWERTY phones available. Can we live without them? Yes, but we can also live without SD card, 250ppi screen and quad core chips ffs.Where's my QWERTY! Also, I am still waiting for this phone that has not been released yet...
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I believe there is a poll on here somewhere for those that want a decent qwerty slide phone (my requirement is one which also has an extra row for numbers)... Unfortunately I haven't made enough posts on here yet to be able to add my name to it!

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Tref67 said:
I believe there is a poll on here somewhere for those that want a decent qwerty slide phone (my requirement is one which also has an extra row for numbers)... Unfortunately I haven't made enough posts on here yet to be able to add my name to it!
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Would you post the link please?

You can use photon q:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929143

I looked into the Photon Q, but with problems of finding one to important, and getting it modified (my soldering skills are not that good) was too much for me. My HTC phone 7 is at deaths door, so I finally settled on an Xperia Z. Sure enough, my fears over the keyboard are realised (can't find my way around the phone yet either, but sure I will with time).... I bought a cheap Bluetooth qwerty keyboard the next day, and it connected and worked no problem at all, but the feel is awful... have seen nicer slide cases for the iphone 5 (with a numbers row and back lit), but will it pair up ok with that? I think for the sake of £20 I will try it... planning then to butcher a case or two to make a phone I can use the way I want to! Unless... anyone has any better ideas??!
Oh, and I can't find the poll I mentioned now!

I just bogged down and bought a galaxy s4. The bigger the screen the easier it is to type. Still, I miss buttons for emulators.

This isn't the poll I meant, but is another (old) one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437646

monsieur_max said:
I was interested a while ago in buying a Droid 4 and use it in Europe. I decided to wait for the CES and obviously i waited for nothing.
I'd be totally glad and thankful if you can share a bit of your feelings about yours. Site reviews are nice things, but user's feelings are always better.
Thanks.
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a solid buy is all i can say. funtions without disappointment at all times required and even tho it came out last year it still can sit next to an s4 without being embarassed. in fact it seems the droid 4 works smoother than the s4, but just short of smoothness of an iphone. not a big deal at all. it's the first phone that has completely met my needs and i planned on sticking with it for a while anyway. if you want a qwerty slider, then this droid 4 is the best pick in the whole planet right now. photon q is like a lower spec droid 4.
unfortunate that usa customers arent able to benefit unless theyre with verizon. hopefully motorola will be smart in realizing that locking them to verizon has harmed their sales of the device. it's 2013 and ppl are still asking if it will work in their country and holding out for a droid 5 which should be due sometime at the end of the year into the beginning of the new year. for motorola to completely drop qwerty slider would be the worst about turn for a company to make who claims to be reinventing itself. there's enough of those tablet phones.. theyre all starting to look the same.. thin and lame! i like the solid feel of my droid4. the new s4s etc dont even interest me in the least even with their higher specs theyre pointless. there's only so much u can do on a powerful device with a touchscreen keyboard before it becomes a hinderance.. symbols, arrow keys and numbers all accessible as on a hardware keyboard is an advantage over software keyboards taking up 30% of the viewable screen.. like i said.. lame.
as it is motorola NEEDS a droid 5 because there will be nothing to set them apart from the competition. all fones are now flat, all have larger battery capacity, theyre even coming waterproof too and with higher specs, infrared ports and other sensors.
if motorola does the same thing with a qwerty slider it will destroy the competition. otherwise, theyll just be filing themselves with all the weeds in the field.
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