[Review] Stock vs ICS Camera App - Motorola Atrix 2

Some pics here for reviewing Stock and ICS Camera App for Atrix 2 :
/ Stock on Left and ICS on Right
Pics straight out of camera, not post-processed
sorry for my mistake : took at wide 8M on Stock and full res. on ICS
Outdoor shooting : same results !
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Indoor shooting : huge differences
/note : no flash here
Just only one shot for ICS and gave in-focus and clear pic, at least 3 shots for Stock and stills blurry and grainy
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stock 2.3.5 or 2.3.6?

Light_Soul said:
stock 2.3.5 or 2.3.6?
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"Stock" means camera handler app built-in stock Rom from Motorola, it is same on 2.3.5 and 2.3.6

Stock 2.3.6 camera is better than 2.3.5 in my point of view.
I'll try ics cam app,will post the result.
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2.3.6 focuses faster and takes pics way faster
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DarkJatrix said:
2.3.6 focuses faster and takes pics way faster
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But they are blew away by ICS camera in both of speed and quality.

vinamilk said:
But they are blew away by ICS camera in both of speed and quality.
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But ics wont auto focus with camera button.
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But ics wont auto focus with camera button.
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Is that a deal breaker? I just don't understand why anyone would prefer to press a button that takes much more pressure than the touch sensitive shutter button on the screen, which focuses as well. But that's just me

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press a button that takes much more pressure
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Me too !
Both Vol and Cam buttons on A2 are small and hard to push than any phone that I've used.
I setup in ICS-cam setting : AF by Vol (hold to auto-focus) and touch screen to take picture while holding vol button, it's more convenient than automatic 2-in-1 action.

vinamilk said:
Me too !
Both Vol and Cam buttons on A2 are small and hard to push than any phone that I've used.
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Off topic you got to get the otter box raises the buttons up nicely.....

hankbizzo5 said:
Off topic you got to get the otter box raises the buttons up nicely.....
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I have it...it's still way easier to touch the shutter button on the touch screen to take pics, requires no pressure and focuses nicely

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Off topic you got to get the otter box raises the buttons up nicely.....
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I'm on Nillkin hard case and quite happy with ... the case. Even when you put phone on hard case, it's harder to push those buttons.
Genuine Otter box is so expensive and makes phone bigger, heavier. Nillkin case just $10 with screen protector film included.

vinamilk said:
I'm on Nillkin hard case and quite happy with ... the case. Even when you put phone on hard case, it's harder to push those buttons.
Genuine Otter box is so expensive and makes phone bigger, heavier. Nillkin case just $10 with screen protector film included.
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Genuine otterbox commuter isnt so thick, and helps buttons tremendously
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Meh. After using stock camera for a bit I'm back to ICS camera . The picture quality is so much better! I just wish the video bugs would get worked out.

Where can we get it? I didn't see it in the Play Store.
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Where can we get it? I didn't see it in the Play Store.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.moblynx.cameraics

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cogeary said:
The picture quality is so much better!
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IMO it's better but not the best. A2's cam quality is not so good, dark, under exposure, under saturation and very low dynamic range when comparing with other phone.
I've compared directly with HTC's phones which shows brighter, saturated color, much higher dynamic range when on live view and pics after taken.

I was unhappy with the camera quality in just about every aspect under 2.3.5 - with 2.3.6 I am quite satisfied.
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Living with the atrix camera
I graduated to the atrix2 from a samsung spica I had gotten in 2010. After using the camera that came with the CM6 roms on it, the atrix 2 camera app was horrible, I couldnt get any pictures right. It would take forever to focus, and in the GB camera, once it focussed, it would stay focussed, even if you moved it, or even if you took a picture, I found that rather annoying. Thankfully, thats now fixed in the ICS camera And the fact that you cannot set your white balance.
Also, it seems that the stock camera app uses some sort of spot/partial metering. I realized this after seeing the exposure change drastically based on where the center was pointed at. Once i figured that out, I had a lot more control over getting the right exposure. Still, you compromise a bit on of how you frame the photographs.
Also, once you engage touch to focus, the camera switches to a sort of macro mode. If you are shooting a landscape, and you want to focus on a hill, dont bother. It's better to leave it as it is, because once it switches to that mode, you'll ruin the focus even further.
If any of you have any info on how to get the best out of the camera, do share.

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[Q] Sensation camera not focusing for close-up shots

I'm trying to take some pics of jewelry I want to sell on ebay. The only camera I have is on the Sensation. I try to auto focus, it gets clear for a split sec, then it goes back to blurry when I take the pic. I've tried tapping on the focus box on the screen before I take the pic & the same thing happens. Any suggestions?
Have you tried changing the scene to CLOSE-UP?
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I'm trying to take some pics of jewelry I want to sell on ebay. The only camera I have is on the Sensation. I try to auto focus, it gets clear for a split sec, then it goes back to blurry when I take the pic. I've tried tapping on the focus box on the screen before I take the pic & the same thing happens. Any suggestions?
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I have the same issue...I have to tap the screen and then it focuses in and goes right back blurry. Really odd. Played with the settings and got nothing. It's only when it's close pics.
Did a hard reset and that fixed it.
Elvis_Freshly said:
I have the same issue...I have to tap the screen and then it focuses in and goes right back blurry. Really odd. Played with the settings and got nothing. It's only when it's close pics.
Did a hard reset and that fixed it.
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That's seems odd. Didn't you just get a replacement phone? If so, does that mean replacement phones are being shipped with a corrupted version of the base SW? Is this evidence that it is a good idea to do a factory reset on a new phone?
Yep, of course I activated close up mode. And various other modes. All have the same issue. It's also interesting that y'all are mentioning replacement phones, because this is a replacement that I got last week!
Here's my fix based on my observations.
When taking a close up picture, focus the camera to the image with a little distance then slowly move closely.
Works for me everytime. Lol
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That's seems odd. Didn't you just get a replacement phone? If so, does that mean replacement phones are being shipped with a corrupted version of the base SW? Is this evidence that it is a good idea to do a factory reset on a new phone?
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Yeah. Got this one Wednesday. New one will be here via Ups tomorrow. I guess it's shipped screwy or we're doing something wrong. LOL
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pantlesspenguin said:
I'm trying to take some pics of jewelry I want to sell on ebay. The only camera I have is on the Sensation. I try to auto focus, it gets clear for a split sec, then it goes back to blurry when I take the pic. I've tried tapping on the focus box on the screen before I take the pic & the same thing happens. Any suggestions?
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simply select close up mode in cam menu...it works and do keep flash off with suitable ambiant light
here have a look at close up mode i jst clicked for u...
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I must just have a bad one because my shots don't come out like that no matter what I try. I'll try the factory reset route, I guess.
First things first. This isn't a real camera (you know what I mean) so make sure there is plenty of light, and make sure there is something there for it to focus on. This uses contrast based focusing, and if it can't see a solid, line, dot, pattern, or something you're going to have trouble.
How close is close? I just pulled out a tape measure and did some tests. It can't focus on things closer than 2 3/4 inches (6.5centimeters). Just to be safe try to move the camera back at least to 3 inches for the best chance at focusing.
Lastly, are you letting the camera decide where to focus or are you tapping on the screen to select a focus point?
As Paging said, most important thing is a lot of light.
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I must just have a bad one because my shots don't come out like that no matter what I try. I'll try the factory reset route, I guess.
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add me on gtalk [email protected] .... i'll help u all the way..no need of reset
its called Macro Mode.. works better than auto focus on close up objects.. in almost every camera..
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its called Macro Mode.. works better than auto focus on close up objects.. in almost every camera..
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Yes, again, in the Sensation it's called "close up mode" & I've been using that. Also, again, it DOES focus correctly for a split second, then "snaps" back to the blurry shot. Like it over focuses so much it becomes blurry again, if that makes sense.
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Yes, again, in the Sensation it's called "close up mode" & I've been using that. Also, again, it DOES focus correctly for a split second, then "snaps" back to the blurry shot. Like it over focuses so much it becomes blurry again, if that makes sense.
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How close are you trying to focus? Even macro mode has its limitations
Xcor3 said:
Here's my fix based on my observations.
When taking a close up picture, focus the camera to the image with a little distance then slowly move closely.
Works for me everytime. Lol
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I actually started playing around w/ this advice some more. After some finnagling (sp) I got it to work a LOT better than it had been. It's still not GREAT, but it's so much better than the blurry pics I was getting. I can even hold the camera CLOSER than where I was starting from, as long as I start from farther away & slowly bring the phone closer. Thanks!
New device arrived today. Just left Musiq Soulchild concert and the camera is GREAT!
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No close up issues or focus. Single tap solves all
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Same problem here. The camera just refuses to focus on close up objects.
Tried with autofocus and manual focus. No change. Any other ideas or is a factory reset really necessary ?
Same problem. At some distances it nearly always fails to set the focus correctly. It over and under focuses, but settles on a position that's out of focus. You can tell it's capable of focusing at that specific distance because it passes through the focus point, but it just fails to hold it. Starting farther away and moving closer does help, but it still seems like you're not getting as close as the lens is capable of.
If you don't actually have the phone and are trying to give generic camera advice, don't. It's annoying.
I'd suggest everyone actually having the issue contact HTC. The more complaints the more likely a fix.

[Q] bad screen and camera quality

hi guys,
I'm an android no0b ... soon fix that problem though.
anyway here is my situation and question:
Does the phones with the 'Bad Screen Issue' take the same quality pics as the ones with the Good screen
I love to take pics... my old nokia 3.15mb cellphone take great shot, I simply love cellphone that take great pics... but
I might be getting a used a mytouch4g (rooted still on froyo) [decent enough price (well as decent as living in Jamaica goes) ]
and from the first day that I saw the the phone I commented "oh i thought it would be nicer... the screen looks so bland... washed out"
the owner didnt even realize that it look bland, and said that its just looks that way , it doesnt affect the camera/pic quality.
I played around with it for a few minutes... my first experience with an android device... I AM IN LOVE WITH ANDROID NOW. but I still could not get around how bland the screen showed..
he only had it for a week before and didnt have much experience with android either.. he got it from someone b4 ... and all he knew is that its rooted.
I really like this device, and checked around online and was shocked to find out about the 'BAD SCREEN ISSUE' , and first i say some comments where persons said that they first say it after the rooted their device and a some1 even said that the unrooted their phone and the issue went away..
but that to this forum and youtube and realized that is a real hardware issue literally a 'BAD SCREEN' most like TFT vs a SuperLcd issue. ( right ?)
I still purchase it from him, and i said the the price is pretty sweet...
i know only know two person who own the mytouch/glacier and I asked them to send me a sample of pics that they took with their phone... just to compare camera quality. In fat hey did n't even know about the BAD screen issue (fortunately for them their devices are ok) ...
I took some pics with the one that i would be getting and I must say I am disappointed ... the pic when send to my pc looks just as washed out and bland as on the phone screen. i seriously doubted that the screen would affect the camera quality.. i may be wrong though.
I am not considering not to buy it... just because of the bright/washed out screen... but it not likely that i'm getting another decent Android phone for any where near this price again.
So guys I'm asking
.1) Does the phones with the 'Bad Screen Issue' take the same quality pics as the ones with the Good screen
.2) (if the forum allows it) some of your guys with the 'bad screen" phones upload your pics so i and have a better judgement of the camera quality. Prolly the camers secsors are determined by th e screen output (?)
.3) If u think that think that unrooting/rerooting will help the camera issue ( yeah unlikey )
4) If updated the android build / ginger bread or cm7 or so would improve the camera quality.
thanks in advance.
You have Resolution turned all the way up?
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You have Resolution turned all the way up
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thanks for the prompt reply...
sadly I can not answer that question, as:
1) I did not check (dont know how to as yet), I am assuming that it at its default setting
2) the phone is not currently in my possession ( prolly not for the next two days) .
once again thanks
The menu button (second hard button from the left) will bring up settings. Check Resolution. I've noticed that pictures in lower light aren't too great. Remember though, its a phone with a camera. The camera is, at most, second.
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estallings15 said:
The menu button (second hard button from the left) will bring up settings. Check Resolution. I've noticed that pictures in lower light aren't too great. Remember though, its a phone with a camera. The camera is, at most, second.
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hope fully I can get my hands on it tomorrow...
I am hoping that the camera can be adjusted to take quality pics...
sad if my old nokia kicks the teeth out a glacier
The LCD panel and the camera picture quality are not related. The good/bad screens basically refer to the two vendors HTC sourced for the MT4G's LCD, with the good one being the Sony S-LCD and the bad one being manufactured by Sharp. The differences between the screens lie in their contrast, color rendering, and off-axis viewing angles. There are some theories that the differences are not actually caused by the screen, but rather by the digitizer, but unless the digitizer was replaced, the screen and digitizer seem to go hand in hand.
The camera on the MT4G simply isn't that good. Unlike the camera for the Amaze, I've never read of an editable image compression setting for the MT4G's camera, so I'm inclined to believe that one doesn't exist.
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The camera on the MT4G simply isn't that good. Unlike the camera for the Amaze, I've never read of an editable image compression setting for the MT4G's camera, so I'm inclined to believe that one doesn't exist.
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judging from the pics that my friend took with their good screen phones.. am leaning to agree with u... its no carl zwiess lens but , i expected better from a 5mp flagship device
hopefully i can adjust the camera setting to suit my needs (crosses fingers)
what a waste if it doesnt..
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I had two mytouch.
One good.one bad.
I have to say the cm7 camera from tdj's 12/30/11 cm7 Kang took some great pictures.
I tested every camera option available(alot of basketball/baseball games),and for some reason that Kang was the best as far as cameras.
Should it have been different? I do.t know why! Cant explain it!
Those pictures were crisp and clear.
I sure I posted a pic in that thread to check it for sure.right around new years.
Found the picture.posted it above.
On both phones the camera was super bad.
Thats why thr darkside was the best side.
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judging from the pics that my friend took with their good screen phones.. am leaning to agree with u... its no carl zwiess lens but , i expected better from a 5mp flagship device
hopefully i can adjust the camera setting to suit my needs (crosses fingers)
what a waste if it doesnt..
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I was not impressed with the quality of the pictures from the MT4G before it died. The outdoor pictures in daylight still had significant compression artifacts, soft focus, and undersaturation. Not natural saturation. Undersaturation. Blacks weren't black. Indoor pictures with incandescent lighting were just dreadful. Honestly, the picture quality was comparable to my Motorola RAZR2 V9x with an extra three megapixels.
Lol.haha.its a phone.its a 5mp camera.
Not bad for what it is.
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S4 camera better than lumia 920 and iPhone 5

The s4 has been ranked second after the untouchable Nokia 808. http://bgr.com/2013/05/24/galaxy-s4-camera-test-iphone-5/ funny enough the over hyped HTC one is no where to be found.
I think our dear phone has been proven to be worth the money once again.
Views and comments below please.
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well it doesn't suprise me since it's 13mp vs 8mp it even does beat xperia Z's 13mp and htc even super duper ultra won't help it
I think DXO hasn't tested HTC One yet..but I seriously doubt it will score anything higher than 70.
strip419 said:
The s4 has been ranked second after the untouchable Nokia 808. http://bgr.com/2013/05/24/galaxy-s4-camera-test-iphone-5/ funny enough the over hyped HTC one is no where to be found.
I think our dear phone has been proven to be worth the money once again.
Views and comments below please.
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The One is nowhere to be found cause they didnt tested it yet.
Now try again.
strip419 said:
The s4 has been ranked second after the untouchable Nokia 808. http://bgr.com/2013/05/24/galaxy-s4-camera-test-iphone-5/ funny enough the over hyped HTC one is no where to be found.
I think our dear phone has been proven to be worth the money once again.
Views and comments below please.
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Read your post twice. Still desperately trying to find a sense in it that would justify opening yet another camera thread. Camera still superb at good conditions. And really crap at lowlight and fast moving objects. Shutter speed is pathetic. ONEs video/sound recording also way better. And I tested both for weeks. But wait: that's been basically said on every second page here.
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Read your post twice. Still desperately trying to find a sense in it that would justify opening yet another camera thread. Camera still superb at good conditions. And really crap at lowlight and fast moving objects. Shutter speed is pathetic. ONEs video/sound recording also way better. And I tested both for weeks. But wait: that's been basically said on every second page here.
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I will listen to the certified camera tech company , NOT YOU
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The One is nowhere to be found cause they didnt tested it yet.
Now try again.
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I bet you a £100 it won't beat the s4.....NEVER... Not with 4-detail lacking- ultrapixel camera.
This will go down as probably the most hyped tech of 2013 that ended up being @*****
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I hate the way reviewers just say Galaxy S4......WHICH VERSION????
They are both very very different!
I think Samsung could do better camera. In low light conditions it is crap, shutter speed is still very low and on 1080p videos you've got tearing smearing with picture zoomed in.
You know, low-light (especially with motion) is the weak-spot of the GS4 camera but we have plenty of examples of high shutter speed images in the various camera threads.
Captures of hose water, kids jumping and so on are "frozen" as long as it's medium light or above.
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You know, low-light (especially with motion) is the weak-spot of the GS4 camera but we have plenty of examples of high shutter speed images in the various camera threads.
Captures of hose water, kids jumping and so on are "frozen" as long as it's medium light or above.
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My low light experience with the S4 is superb. It's able to capture, in night mode, even pictures made in a dark room.
Anyway, use the flash if you in a dark place
I would agree, the s4 really has got itself a very good camera. Im an outgoing person and I take most of my photos in high or medium lights. Its very seldom that I would take pictures of something or someone in low lights. I would use a flash if i really want to capture them with as much detail as possible.
Heres my very first shot of my s4 after i got it out of the box. It was very cloudy thst day. I cropped the fountain area only.
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All cameras are useless in low light unless you can control the shutter speed and keep the camera stable. Even high end Cannon or Nikon cameras need a good flash or a tripod to get good results in those kinds of conditions. If you have unwanted motion in the framing then it's game over. At the end of the day, if you can't get light through the lens and onto the sensor, you can't expect to get good pictures. There are dirty tricks that can are employed, such as a high ISO speed, merging images, or a large low res sensor, but at the end of the day you're still making sacrifices with the image.
This low light camera business has become a proper skit for selling smart phones.
low light conditions with Night Mode One.
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Shocked at photo quality

OK so im coming from a long line of iPhones and after getting bored of iOS this is my first venture into Samsung. I took this photo at the club I work at last night and seriously, what is going on here? The flash pics were pretty crap too, finding it very hard to focus after pressing the shutter.
p.s yes i know how to take good photos normally and no there isnt any plastic over the lens.
Here is the link to the full size image, zoom in yourself and look!! CLICK ON THIS LINK FOR FULL SIZE PIC
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Even that image is better than any iPhone I've seen, personally I've not had any problems with the camera although there are a few different types of modes that you can use while on the camera have you tried playing with them?
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H0rn said:
Even that image is better than any iPhone I've seen, personally I've not had any problems with the camera although there are a few different types of modes that you can use while on the camera have you tried playing with them?
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Sure, tried every mode available! Let me upload a similar iPhone 5 pic, hold on.
I also noticed the pictures weren't what I expected.
They tend to blur quite easily.
I'm hoping a software update will sort it.
It's a 13MP camera, you're either doing something wrong or your camera is bad.
vinokirk said:
I also noticed the pictures weren't what I expected.
They tend to blur quite easily.
I'm hoping a software update will sort it.
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I haven't used the camera too much but if there is any focus problems I'm guessing they can fix it that way.
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It's a 13MP camera, you're either doing something wrong or your camera s ad.
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Definitely not doing something wrong lol, you can clearly see its actually a good picture in terms of light pickup its the smearing like an oil painting and thats nothing to do with the megapixels either
I agree with the poster, ive had many phones and by far the note 3 has the worst photo quality ever, im really dissapointed for a ~750 euro device to have such a bad camera. 13MP looks nice in the specs but numbers is not everything.
To me it looks like there is some kind compression on the image, maybe the firmware has some kind of compression method to keep the camera up to speed for zero shutter lag.
Hope samsung will look into this and give us an update in the camera firmware.
Thats weird.
In this post the camera pics are amazing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462052
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Thats weird.
In this post the camera pics are amazing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462052
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Yes you are right, the bright and especialy daylight pictures are pretty nice, but when things get dark or far away they smudge out. You can see it happen in the bottom 2 pictures in that post, the last 2 are obviously lower quality than the flowers for example.
spridell said:
Thats weird.
In this post the camera pics are amazing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462052
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Haha! That is taken by me.
Note 3 is the best phone camera I ever use, the photo quality is outstanding!
Andrewtst said:
Haha! That is taken by me.
Note 3 is the best phone camera I ever use, the photo quality is outstanding!
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Can u upload some more low level light pics?
spridell said:
Can u upload some more low level light pics?
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Here is some I post before - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45941670#post45941670 and also the differences between Smart Stabilisation ON/OFF.
Andrewtst said:
Here is some I post before - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45941670#post45941670 and also the differences between Smart Stabilisation ON/OFF.
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thanks for the link
What do you expect? The camera has a 1/3" sensor, a FX SLR has ~28 times the sensor area. This means that you would need 28 times the light (or time) to shoot a photo with same quality.
This is not possible because in the conditions where your photo was shot you would need a tripod and long exposure (which is not useable on moving objects) to make a photo which has comparable quality like an outdoor picture!
Anyhow, I have the N3 for one day now and I am happy with it so far, especially with the better camera!
djrm said:
Definitely not doing something wrong lol, you can clearly see its actually a good picture in terms of light pickup its the smearing like an oil painting and thats nothing to do with the megapixels either
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Well it does have to do with the megapixels because the more you have the less the typical blur will be visibly apparent as a result of movement, which seems to be the case here, whether that be movement by you or the subject.
redpill2016 said:
Well it does have to do with the megapixels because the more you have the less the typical blur will be visibly apparent as a result of movement, which seems to be the case here, whether that be movement by you or the subject.
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It isnt blur, it's the denoise that samsung is using. This is a software issue, among other things obviously. Whether or not they fix it I have no idea.
djrm said:
OK so im coming from a long line of iPhones and after getting bored of iOS this is my first venture into Samsung. I took this photo at the club I work at last night and seriously, what is going on here? The flash pics were pretty crap too, finding it very hard to focus after pressing the shutter.
p.s yes i know how to take good photos normally and no there isnt any plastic over the lens.
Here is the link to the full size image, zoom in yourself and look!! CLICK ON THIS LINK FOR FULL SIZE PIC
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What's wrong is there's too many fat ugly chicks at the club.
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Until manufacturers either quit trying to outdo each other with more megapixels on the same size sensor, lower the megapixels on the same size sensor (like HTC did with the One), or increase the sensor size (such as Apple just did with the 5s), low light photos are going to have more and more noise. The smaller the pixel, the less light it captures, which results in worse low light performance.
Here is the metadata for anyone interested .. It seems like the camera shot the picture in night mode
http://regex.info/exif.cgi?imgurl=http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/1652/qkly.jpg
here is a similar shot on a iphone 4s
http://regex.info/exif.cgi?dummy=on....com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/IMG_36372.jpg
iphone 5
http://regex.info/exif.cgi?dummy=on...nthemix.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/bild1.jpg
htc one
http://regex.info/exif.cgi?dummy=on...bemm.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/imag1352.jpg
night club shots are hard on any phone there are too many lights comings from odd directions.

Google Camera App oddities (resolved after firmware update!)

I've been testing out @Arnova8G2 's Google Camera App port (version 5.1.016_v1.4beta5 ) and except for the slow motion mode which crashes the app instantly, it actually works REALLY well on the Zenfone 4 Pro's back camera, despite not being tested for this phone. Doesn't see the second sensor, but that is fine.
HDR+ works flawlessly without any crashes.
Easily beats the photo quality of Asus' own camera app by far, which is a shame because the sensor of this phone delivers quite good quality, and since it has been marketed so specifically as a great camera-smartphone it is kinda strange to see that Asus did not put more work into it.
EDIT:
Innnnnnnnnnnteresting!
The latest firmware update (WW-14.2610.1711.35) lists camera performance improvements, and now after applying that, those odd binary data artifacts no longer appear when using the Google Camera App! Same settings otherwise. Good job Asus! :fingers-crossed::good:
So this is no longer valid:
There is one thing that is odd though, hence this thread.
On each of the HDR+ or HDR+ Enhanced mode pics, there is an odd ribbon of... binary data(?) on the side of the sensor that would point towards the bottom edge where the USB port sits.
If the HDR+ mode is disabled and just the plain regular photos are saved, it doesn't appear. It does also not show up on any files captured with the regular camera app of Asus.
It looks like this:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
The pattern seems to vary. Here is a part of the same picture corner, across a couple of pics:
I tried fiddling with the settings of the app but I can't seem to get rid of this stuff. Any idea what this is?
Does this show up for other owners of this phone as well?
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damnaliens said:
I've been testing out @Arnova8G2 's Google Camera App port (version 5.1.016_v1.4beta5 ) and except for the slow motion mode which crashes the app instantly, it actually works REALLY well on the Zenfone 4 Pro's back camera, despite not being tested for this phone. Doesn't see the second sensor, but that is fine.
HDR+ works flawlessly without any crashes.
Easily beats the photo quality of Asus' own camera app by far, which is a shame because the sensor of this phone delivers quite good quality, and since it has been marketed so specifically as a great camera-smartphone it is kinda strange to see that Asus did not put more work into it.
There is one thing that is odd though, hence this thread.
On each of the HDR+ or HDR+ Enhanced mode pics, there is an odd ribbon of... binary data(?) on the side of the sensor that would point towards the bottom edge where the USB port sits.
If the HDR+ mode is disabled and just the plain regular photos are saved, it doesn't appear. It does also not show up on any files captured with the regular camera app of Asus.
It looks like this:
The pattern seems to vary. Here is a part of the same picture corner, across a couple of pics:
I tried fiddling with the settings of the app but I can't seem to get rid of this stuff. Any idea what this is?
Does this show up for other owners of this phone as well?
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Hi damnaliens,
Thank you for your test.
As you know,the google camera app is on a higher version,so it's compatible with most devices and camera lenses.
Your test helped me a lot.
I am going to buy ZenFone 4 Pro(128GB/6GB).
Do you suggest that for me?
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Vonarian said:
I am going to buy ZenFone 4 Pro(128GB/6GB).
Do you suggest that for me?
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Yup that is the version of the phone I also got. I'm very happy with it overall, performance is nice, so far no problems, so I'm sure you'll enjoy it if you plan on getting it as well. :highfive:
damnaliens said:
Yup that is the version of the phone I also got. I'm very happy with it overall, performance is nice, so far no problems, so I'm sure you'll enjoy it if you plan on getting it as well. :highfive:
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I'm so excited than ZenFone 4 Pro(ZS551KL)
I'm an unofficial (official a little) ASUS Advertiser.
Nice Opinion Dear damnaliens.
I seems like IMX362 is better than IMX318!
Good luck.
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damnaliens said:
Yup that is the version of the phone I also got. I'm very happy with it overall, performance is nice, so far no problems, so I'm sure you'll enjoy it if you plan on getting it as well. :highfive:
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Excuse me,
Is camera quality good in low light?
How is the portrait mode?
Is optical zoom lens good in daylight?
What's your given score to main(12MP)camera from 100?(for example 90/100)
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Vonarian said:
Is camera quality good in low light?
How is the portrait mode?
Is optical zoom lens good in daylight?
What's your given score to main(12MP)camera from 100?(for example 90/100)
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For a smartphone camera, the performance in low light is satisfactory.
The portrait mode ... is a portrait mode. I feel this is mainly a software thing, so the sensor is not as important for this. I don't have any other phone to compare portrait modes against, my other phones are older and don't blur out the background. The font facing camera is good though.
The optical zoom lens is nice in daylight! In low indoor light it is not being used though, and even 2x zoom is done digitally. I wish there was a clearer indicator that this is the case, or at least a button so I can still use the more grainy zoom lens image. But again, software thing.
Lastly, hmmm. I think with the google camera app, the main 12MP camera can rival or beat the rating of the Pixel 2 phones, so something in the range of 95+/100 or higher. With the Asus app, the pictures look a bit worse because they're processed less intelligently. You can save raw images though so I feel it is not that important anyway. The camera hardware itself though is impressive, the autofocus is FAST!
damnaliens said:
For a smartphone camera, the performance in low light is satisfactory.
The portrait mode ... is a portrait mode. I feel this is mainly a software thing, so the sensor is not as important for this. I don't have any other phone to compare portrait modes against, my other phones are older and don't blur out the background. The font facing camera is good though.
The optical zoom lens is nice in daylight! In low indoor light it is not being used though, and even 2x zoom is done digitally. I wish there was a clearer indicator that this is the case, or at least a button so I can still use the more grainy zoom lens image. But again, software thing.
Lastly, hmmm. I think with the google camera app, the main 12MP camera can rival or beat the rating of the Pixel 2 phones, so something in the range of 95+/100 or higher. With the Asus app, the pictures look a bit worse because they're processed less intelligently. You can save raw images though so I feel it is not that important anyway. The camera hardware itself though is impressive, the autofocus is FAST!
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Oh!!
I took lots of time than you!
I'm so happy with your opinion!
I can see you are a professional android user(because you increased the resolution in the settings!i saw a review that the reviewer hasn't changed the resolution in the Asus settings xD)
Ok!we can be good ASUS users with our ZenFone 4 Pros.
Nice to have a people like you man!!
Good luck and enjoy your ZenFone 4 Pro! xD
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@Vonarian
Thanks.
If you got any more questions before you purchase yours, just toss me a PM!
damnaliens said:
@Vonarian
Thanks.
If you got any more questions before you purchase yours, just toss me a PM!
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Sure!
God brought you to me xD XD Xd
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