Shocked at photo quality - Galaxy Note 3 General

OK so im coming from a long line of iPhones and after getting bored of iOS this is my first venture into Samsung. I took this photo at the club I work at last night and seriously, what is going on here? The flash pics were pretty crap too, finding it very hard to focus after pressing the shutter.
p.s yes i know how to take good photos normally and no there isnt any plastic over the lens.
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Even that image is better than any iPhone I've seen, personally I've not had any problems with the camera although there are a few different types of modes that you can use while on the camera have you tried playing with them?
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H0rn said:
Even that image is better than any iPhone I've seen, personally I've not had any problems with the camera although there are a few different types of modes that you can use while on the camera have you tried playing with them?
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Sure, tried every mode available! Let me upload a similar iPhone 5 pic, hold on.

I also noticed the pictures weren't what I expected.
They tend to blur quite easily.
I'm hoping a software update will sort it.

It's a 13MP camera, you're either doing something wrong or your camera is bad.

vinokirk said:
I also noticed the pictures weren't what I expected.
They tend to blur quite easily.
I'm hoping a software update will sort it.
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I haven't used the camera too much but if there is any focus problems I'm guessing they can fix it that way.
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redpill2016 said:
It's a 13MP camera, you're either doing something wrong or your camera s ad.
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Definitely not doing something wrong lol, you can clearly see its actually a good picture in terms of light pickup its the smearing like an oil painting and thats nothing to do with the megapixels either

I agree with the poster, ive had many phones and by far the note 3 has the worst photo quality ever, im really dissapointed for a ~750 euro device to have such a bad camera. 13MP looks nice in the specs but numbers is not everything.
To me it looks like there is some kind compression on the image, maybe the firmware has some kind of compression method to keep the camera up to speed for zero shutter lag.
Hope samsung will look into this and give us an update in the camera firmware.

Thats weird.
In this post the camera pics are amazing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462052

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Thats weird.
In this post the camera pics are amazing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462052
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Yes you are right, the bright and especialy daylight pictures are pretty nice, but when things get dark or far away they smudge out. You can see it happen in the bottom 2 pictures in that post, the last 2 are obviously lower quality than the flowers for example.

spridell said:
Thats weird.
In this post the camera pics are amazing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462052
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Haha! That is taken by me.
Note 3 is the best phone camera I ever use, the photo quality is outstanding!

Andrewtst said:
Haha! That is taken by me.
Note 3 is the best phone camera I ever use, the photo quality is outstanding!
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Can u upload some more low level light pics?

spridell said:
Can u upload some more low level light pics?
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Here is some I post before - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45941670#post45941670 and also the differences between Smart Stabilisation ON/OFF.

Andrewtst said:
Here is some I post before - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45941670#post45941670 and also the differences between Smart Stabilisation ON/OFF.
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thanks for the link

What do you expect? The camera has a 1/3" sensor, a FX SLR has ~28 times the sensor area. This means that you would need 28 times the light (or time) to shoot a photo with same quality.
This is not possible because in the conditions where your photo was shot you would need a tripod and long exposure (which is not useable on moving objects) to make a photo which has comparable quality like an outdoor picture!
Anyhow, I have the N3 for one day now and I am happy with it so far, especially with the better camera!

djrm said:
Definitely not doing something wrong lol, you can clearly see its actually a good picture in terms of light pickup its the smearing like an oil painting and thats nothing to do with the megapixels either
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Well it does have to do with the megapixels because the more you have the less the typical blur will be visibly apparent as a result of movement, which seems to be the case here, whether that be movement by you or the subject.

redpill2016 said:
Well it does have to do with the megapixels because the more you have the less the typical blur will be visibly apparent as a result of movement, which seems to be the case here, whether that be movement by you or the subject.
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It isnt blur, it's the denoise that samsung is using. This is a software issue, among other things obviously. Whether or not they fix it I have no idea.

djrm said:
OK so im coming from a long line of iPhones and after getting bored of iOS this is my first venture into Samsung. I took this photo at the club I work at last night and seriously, what is going on here? The flash pics were pretty crap too, finding it very hard to focus after pressing the shutter.
p.s yes i know how to take good photos normally and no there isnt any plastic over the lens.
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What's wrong is there's too many fat ugly chicks at the club.
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Until manufacturers either quit trying to outdo each other with more megapixels on the same size sensor, lower the megapixels on the same size sensor (like HTC did with the One), or increase the sensor size (such as Apple just did with the 5s), low light photos are going to have more and more noise. The smaller the pixel, the less light it captures, which results in worse low light performance.

Here is the metadata for anyone interested .. It seems like the camera shot the picture in night mode
http://regex.info/exif.cgi?imgurl=http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/1652/qkly.jpg
here is a similar shot on a iphone 4s
http://regex.info/exif.cgi?dummy=on....com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/IMG_36372.jpg
iphone 5
http://regex.info/exif.cgi?dummy=on...nthemix.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/bild1.jpg
htc one
http://regex.info/exif.cgi?dummy=on...bemm.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/imag1352.jpg
night club shots are hard on any phone there are too many lights comings from odd directions.

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[APP] Anyone Use HDR Camera+ (photo comparison inside)

**I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO AFFILIATION WITH THIS APP OR THE PRODUCERS OF THIS APP**
OK, so I was browsing the market and came across HDR Camera+ yesterday. Was pretty excited to see what it could do, but didn't have much on the level of expectations. So, I took *IDENTICAL (*to the best of my ability) photos, one with the standard camera and one with the HDR Camera+ app. Below are my results...
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I thought the "quality" difference was very clear, and I was pretty amazed in all honesty. The color difference is the main thing I noticed, with colors appearing more vivid to me.
Overall, extremely satisfied and excited to do a little more picture taking with it. My only negative is the obvious, can't really take "action" photos with it because it takes about 4 photos in different exposures and if the object is moving, I could imagine the results to not be what you'd want. I have a 2-year old who's attention doesn't span for over 2 seconds lol.
uoY_redruM said:
**I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO AFFILIATION WITH THIS APP OR THE PRODUCERS OF THIS APP**
OK, so I was browsing the market and came across HDR Camera+ yesterday. Was pretty excited to see what it could do, but didn't have much on the level of expectations. So, I took *IDENTICAL (*to the best of my ability) photos, one with the standard camera and one with the HDR Camera+ app. Below are my results...
I thought the "quality" difference was very clear, and I was pretty amazed in all honesty. The color difference is the main thing I noticed, with colors appearing more vivid to me.
Overall, extremely satisfied and excited to do a little more picture taking with it. My only negative is the obvious, can't really take "action" photos with it because it takes about 4 photos in different exposures and if the object is moving, I could imagine the results to not be what you'd want. I have a 2-year old who's attention doesn't span for over 2 seconds lol.
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thanks, i thought id take a look and they are a lot better, not had much chance to play around yet thought, looking good so far
maxib123 said:
thanks, i thought id take a look and they are a lot better, not had much chance to play around yet thought, looking good so far
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No problem man.
Yeah, they are pretty neat. I took a few more shots today, and I have to say, it does a damn good job at correcting even if the "object" moves. I took a picture of my sons cat and he moved his head towards me after about the 2nd of the 5 snaps and the picture looked absolutely normal. I was quite amazed by that.
Planning to play around some more when I am out and about. Spent this weekend inside relaxing lol.
I have tried HDR Camera+ and Pro HDR Camera and I like the Pro HDR better. Pro HDR gives you more control over saturation, contrast, brightness and exposure so you can make the pictures as realistic or a crazy HDR as you like.
it's just bumping up the contrast. i don't think it is actually taking two exposures or anything like that.
vivanshah said:
it's just bumping up the contrast. i don't think it is actually taking two exposures or anything like that.
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No, it does. When you take the picture (in slow mode 1) you can watch each exposure being taken. It takes a normal, an extreme light, a mild light, an extreme dark and a mild dark then computes.
ive also gotten it to FC :\
also wish it had the trackball used for picture taking
disgustip8ted said:
ive also gotten it to FC :\
also wish it had the trackball used for picture taking
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Trackball picture taking would be a really nice features.
Wow! This is nice. Never thought an app could make much improvement to photos taken as it depends on the hardware camera sensor. Thanks for recommending this app.
I like Pro HDR Camera better than this. More color / contrast options although less hdr-related options than HDR Camera+
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vivanshah said:
it's just bumping up the contrast. i don't think it is actually taking two exposures or anything like that.
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Don't forget it's also clearly doing an autolevels and turning up the Sharpness to 11
IMO the results are worse.
HDR Camera+ is by far the best app on the market for taking stunning photos. While Pro HDR does allow you to tweak the settings a bit, HDR Camera+ blows it away with overall quality.
Pro HDR
Here is a shot I took on my N1 using Pro HDR.
Thank you so much for pointing me towards this! I love themes and apps section almost as much as dev
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atomb said:
Here is a shot I took on my N1 using Pro HDR.
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That's really nice man Cellphone cameras will always be crap because of the size limitations, but this goes to show that software will go a long way to rectify that issue!
Gonna look into this app further now.
Pro HDR vs HDR Camera+
Here is a shot I took using both programs so you can see the comparison. I am partial to the results of Pro HD but see for yourself.
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Here is a shot I took using both programs so you can see the comparison. I am partial to the results of Pro HD but see for yourself.
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Pro HD looks better to me, although both look better than stock i imagine. Could you add a stock image to compare to? Were they both taken on default app settings and if so, how much better can you make them look if you tweak them?
Thanks.
I use pro hdr... here is an example...
I know heavy effect!
Another Comparison
I reset both HDR apps to the default settings and took a picture using the built in standard camera app so you can compare all 3. The files are named by the app that took them so that's how you can tell them apart. The Pro HDR show looks a little blurry on the crane because it moved while taking the picture so ignore the slight blur.
uoY_redruM said:
**I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO AFFILIATION WITH THIS APP OR THE PRODUCERS OF THIS APP**
OK, so I was browsing the market and came across HDR Camera+ yesterday. Was pretty excited to see what it could do, but didn't have much on the level of expectations. So, I took *IDENTICAL (*to the best of my ability) photos, one with the standard camera and one with the HDR Camera+ app. Below are my results...
Top of Tank (Regular)
Top of Tank (HDR)
Front of Tank (Regular)
Front of Tank (HDR)
Sky (Regular)
Sky (HDR)
I thought the "quality" difference was very clear, and I was pretty amazed in all honesty. The color difference is the main thing I noticed, with colors appearing more vivid to me.
Overall, extremely satisfied and excited to do a little more picture taking with it. My only negative is the obvious, can't really take "action" photos with it because it takes about 4 photos in different exposures and if the object is moving, I could imagine the results to not be what you'd want. I have a 2-year old who's attention doesn't span for over 2 seconds lol.
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What settings did you use for these?

Colors from camera are horrible.

The colors are far too over saturated. The resulting photos are not at all accurate. I tried changing white balance, but they problem stayed. Is there some other setting? Is this problem software specific... in other words would a different ROM maybe fix it?
have heard that and may be a little true, i am not a photo buff, so i think they are great
I think the photos are fine. Are you looking at them on a pc?
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one of mine
i shoot them to my flatscreen also over wifi--they look great
sorry for the house, we are repainting--
TramainM said:
Are you looking at them on a pc?
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Yes, could that be the problem? I thought everyone looks at digital photos on PCs. FWIW the color problem persists on various PCs and on the phone itself.
To be honest, I think your photo proves the OP's point. I'm not saying it doesn't look great - it does; however, the colours are way over-saturated, meaning that while it looks nice, it does not look like a real or accurate represenation of the subject.
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one of mine
i shoot them to my flatscreen also over wifi--they look great
sorry for the house, we are repainting--
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That is a great picture.
But unless that plant in the foreground is plugged into an outlet, there's no way that color can be accurate. Does it not look outrageously bright green to you?
kuroneko007 said:
To be honest, I think your photo proves the OP's point. I'm not saying it doesn't look great - it does; however, the colours are way over-saturated, meaning that while it looks nice, it does not look like a real or accurate represenation of the subject.
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Exactly. It looks "nice"... but the colors are way too intense.
Has anyone using a non-stock ROM noticed a difference?
Here's an example. The couch in this picture is a rather subdued maroon color. It does not glow like this in real life.
Yup. I just took a pic to confirm and its very noticeable. This is a big issue.
I find that if you into into the image adjustments and lower the saturation by 1, the colors are more accurate and natural. The photos are from my school and i think that just lowering the saturation it looks more natural
Looks like that does it, nice tip mate.
JohnHenrySDM said:
The colors are far too over saturated. The resulting photos are not at all accurate. I tried changing white balance, but they problem stayed. Is there some other setting? Is this problem software specific... in other words would a different ROM maybe fix it?
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Dude,
Get yourself an SLR camera if you're not happy!
It's just a damn phone (i.e. a device you use to make calls), what do you expect?
LOL
Thank you, Corona. It looks like that's a step in the right direction.
ovimunt said:
Dude,
Get yourself an SLR camera if you're not happy!
It's just a damn phone (i.e. a device you use to make calls), what do you expect?
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LOL indeed.
I'm comparing the photos from this to the photos of previous smart phones, like the Nexus One, G2 and several Samsung phones I've owned. All of these took better pictures with more accurate colors. The One S does have some nice features, like HDR and Low Light mode, but if the colors are all wrong, then it doesn't matter.
But it seems this may be lost on you. You're clearly struggling to understand the term 'smart phone'. My suspicion is that you, having little experience with the first half of the term have chosen to ignore it, and this is what has lead you to believe that a smart phone is 'just a damn phone.'
Relax man! Don't get so wound up! It's not the end of the world!
JohnHenrySDM said:
LOL indeed.
I'm comparing the photos from this to the photos of previous smart phones, like the Nexus One, G2 and several Samsung phones I've owned. All of these took better pictures with more accurate colors. The One S does have some nice features, like HDR and Low Light mode, but if the colors are all wrong, then it doesn't matter.
But it seems this may be lost on you. You're clearly struggling to understand the term 'smart phone'. My suspicion is that you, having little experience with the first half of the term have chosen to ignore it, and this is what has lead you to believe that a smart phone is 'just a damn phone.'
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Actually, it's quite the opposite. I am very much aware about the 'smart' bit in 'smartphone' but I just think that no matter how you put it the camera on a 'smartphone' can never be included in the 'smart' bit.
You see, I am actually very much into photography and I do care quite a bit about the photo quality and that is why a phone no matter how 'smart' it is will never cut it for me - the quality is simply not there from the very start. There is no way to get the same quality from the tiny sensor and lens in a 'smart' phone as you would get from an SLR, even one with a 1.6 crop factor, and a proper set of lens.
So basically if you want your photos to look good then don't take them with a phone! While if you just want to point and shoot when you're out with your friends then I don't think the colour accuracy is that much of a big deal - you can always retouch them in Photoshop if you care that much. At the end of the day in a point and shoot situation you probably want to capture the moment and not so much to take an artistic photo.
I may well be wrong since the camera function on my 'smart' phone is one of the things I use the least. In my case, when I want to take good photos I make sure I have my SLR with me - I'd never leave it to the camera on my phone. That is not to say that the phone is not actually very smart indeed, don't get me wrong, it's just that I use all the other functions a hell of a lot more and I think that's what makes it really smart, not the silly camera...
You guys needa go buy nikons if you're worried about ur couch looking too red honestly
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icecicle said:
You guys needa go buy nikons if you're worried about ur couch looking too red honestly
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LOOOL
I totally agree man! That's what I did! Mind you, I'm not a Nikon fan though, I like my Canon 550D a lot more!
You guys are totally missing the point. Photography is also a hobby of mine (I happen to be a Nikon fan) but that does not mean I can't expect that my new phone take pictures at least as good as a phone from FIVE years ago.
If the phone's calculator added one and one and came up with thirty three, would you tell me it's not a problem, and that I shouldn't be using a phone for a calculator?
What happened to this thread--
I will agree if the photos are VERY important, a phone may not be the way to go or take some photos before buying
On the other hand no need to lambast anyone
For this old man--I can only hope if someone takes a pic of me with my phone, it enhances me as well as it does the other photos it takes--

S4 camera better than lumia 920 and iPhone 5

The s4 has been ranked second after the untouchable Nokia 808. http://bgr.com/2013/05/24/galaxy-s4-camera-test-iphone-5/ funny enough the over hyped HTC one is no where to be found.
I think our dear phone has been proven to be worth the money once again.
Views and comments below please.
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well it doesn't suprise me since it's 13mp vs 8mp it even does beat xperia Z's 13mp and htc even super duper ultra won't help it
I think DXO hasn't tested HTC One yet..but I seriously doubt it will score anything higher than 70.
strip419 said:
The s4 has been ranked second after the untouchable Nokia 808. http://bgr.com/2013/05/24/galaxy-s4-camera-test-iphone-5/ funny enough the over hyped HTC one is no where to be found.
I think our dear phone has been proven to be worth the money once again.
Views and comments below please.
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The One is nowhere to be found cause they didnt tested it yet.
Now try again.
strip419 said:
The s4 has been ranked second after the untouchable Nokia 808. http://bgr.com/2013/05/24/galaxy-s4-camera-test-iphone-5/ funny enough the over hyped HTC one is no where to be found.
I think our dear phone has been proven to be worth the money once again.
Views and comments below please.
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Read your post twice. Still desperately trying to find a sense in it that would justify opening yet another camera thread. Camera still superb at good conditions. And really crap at lowlight and fast moving objects. Shutter speed is pathetic. ONEs video/sound recording also way better. And I tested both for weeks. But wait: that's been basically said on every second page here.
slind said:
Read your post twice. Still desperately trying to find a sense in it that would justify opening yet another camera thread. Camera still superb at good conditions. And really crap at lowlight and fast moving objects. Shutter speed is pathetic. ONEs video/sound recording also way better. And I tested both for weeks. But wait: that's been basically said on every second page here.
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I will listen to the certified camera tech company , NOT YOU
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shox22 said:
The One is nowhere to be found cause they didnt tested it yet.
Now try again.
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I bet you a £100 it won't beat the s4.....NEVER... Not with 4-detail lacking- ultrapixel camera.
This will go down as probably the most hyped tech of 2013 that ended up being @*****
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I hate the way reviewers just say Galaxy S4......WHICH VERSION????
They are both very very different!
I think Samsung could do better camera. In low light conditions it is crap, shutter speed is still very low and on 1080p videos you've got tearing smearing with picture zoomed in.
You know, low-light (especially with motion) is the weak-spot of the GS4 camera but we have plenty of examples of high shutter speed images in the various camera threads.
Captures of hose water, kids jumping and so on are "frozen" as long as it's medium light or above.
ChronoReverse said:
You know, low-light (especially with motion) is the weak-spot of the GS4 camera but we have plenty of examples of high shutter speed images in the various camera threads.
Captures of hose water, kids jumping and so on are "frozen" as long as it's medium light or above.
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My low light experience with the S4 is superb. It's able to capture, in night mode, even pictures made in a dark room.
Anyway, use the flash if you in a dark place
I would agree, the s4 really has got itself a very good camera. Im an outgoing person and I take most of my photos in high or medium lights. Its very seldom that I would take pictures of something or someone in low lights. I would use a flash if i really want to capture them with as much detail as possible.
Heres my very first shot of my s4 after i got it out of the box. It was very cloudy thst day. I cropped the fountain area only.
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All cameras are useless in low light unless you can control the shutter speed and keep the camera stable. Even high end Cannon or Nikon cameras need a good flash or a tripod to get good results in those kinds of conditions. If you have unwanted motion in the framing then it's game over. At the end of the day, if you can't get light through the lens and onto the sensor, you can't expect to get good pictures. There are dirty tricks that can are employed, such as a high ISO speed, merging images, or a large low res sensor, but at the end of the day you're still making sacrifices with the image.
This low light camera business has become a proper skit for selling smart phones.
low light conditions with Night Mode One.
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Camera not good on n9005

I have noticed my camera isnt good in low light and I dont have night mode in there like as in S4.
See the picture iv taken in low light with stabilization turned on.
What do you guys say isit good quality?
What should I do to improve.
There is no night mode in note3.
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thahim said:
I have noticed my camera isnt good in low light and I dont have night mode in there like as in S4.
See the picture iv taken in low light with stabilization turned on.
What do you guys say isit good quality?
What should I do to improve.
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yes my sm-n9005 camera is also like this
ps cerberus at pg
Replace the sensor...
thahim said:
I have noticed my camera isnt good in low light and I dont have night mode in there like as in S4.
See the picture iv taken in low light with stabilization turned on.
What do you guys say isit good quality?
What should I do to improve.
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For the car stereo photo: The camera is metering for the bright screen. Try HDR, or using a flash. I'm currently on an ASOP rom so I can't recall if there is a way to change the metering mode, but try the others.
fizzlington said:
For the car stereo photo: The camera is metering for the bright screen. Try HDR, or using a flash. I'm currently on an ASOP rom so I can't recall if there is a way to change the metering mode, but try the others.
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Sure you can: Center, Spot and Matrix.
For OP: Try Spot metering. You can also lock on the dashboard and then reframe on the radio display (you can lock exposure and focus, if I recall correctly, by holding the shutter button - but only if burst mode is disabled). But then you'll probably have the display overexposed.
OP I would agree with you, I'm far from impressed with the camera on this phone, I suppose some would say it's not the sort of phone for people who like taking photos and to choose a different phone. However coming from the Note 2, HTC One and Z1 all performed pretty well in lowlight conditions and were pretty quick at taking photos, this is pretty naff in lowlight even with the flash on as there seems to be too much of a delay with the shutter!
Today I took a couple of photo's in good light and I had to hold the phone still for like 3/4 secs otherwise my photo blurred like crazy! Either there is another setting I've turned on by mistake or its just this phone.
I'm glad I have a decent camera and don't really on this as my main camera....
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Yeah even in good light, with stabilisation turned on the photo may blur if you move the phone AFTER you hear the shutter. Turn stabilisation off and the problems go away
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Yeah even in good light, with stabilisation turned on the photo may blur if you move the phone AFTER you hear the shutter. Turn stabilisation off and the problems go away
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Tbh even with stabilisation off it still isn't quick, compared to HTC One and Z1 that has like zero lag this is like a second or so.
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Oh right, I've had no lag whatsoever on my Note 3 camera even with my unsteady hands
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waynester21 said:
Oh right, I've had no lag whatsoever on my Note 3 camera even with my unsteady hands
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Hmm, it's been worse with kitkat, I might to a factory reset.
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Turn off smart stabilization and set iso to 800. Iso metering to spot.
tclocki said:
Turn off smart stabilization and set iso to 800. Iso metering to spot.
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Don't expect any decent quality on an ISO setting that high..
ShadowLea said:
Don't expect any decent quality on an ISO setting that high..
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My suggestion was based on the pictue he posted. With that same situation, I think this setting would produce better results if he doesnt prefer using flash.
If he wants to use flash, I would suggest a different setting.
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Don't expect any decent quality on an ISO setting that high..
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Btw, the note 3's iso can go up to 1000 if its set to Auto. The quality at that iso level sucks even if theres enough ambient light.
Disagree about the camera, I have taken some superb shots with the note 3 , low light as well as daytime.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49803128&postcount=37
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50014253&postcount=43
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51176543&postcount=134
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50972243&postcount=115
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My suggestion was based on the pictue he posted. With that same situation, I think this setting would produce better results if he doesnt prefer using flash.
If he wants to use flash, I would suggest a different setting.
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Btw, the note 3's iso can go up to 1000 if its set to Auto. The quality at that iso level sucks even if theres enough ambient light.
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The ISO on my EOS 70D can go to 12800 (Nobody in their sane mind uses that). It produces pictures that look like something made with a 2001 VGA camera. :silly: The higher you set the ISO, the worse the noise is going to be. Just because it can doesn't mean it should
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The ISO on my EOS 70D can go to 12800 (Nobody in their sane mind uses that). It produces pictures that look like something made with a 2001 VGA camera. :silly: The higher you set the ISO, the worse the noise is going to be. Just because it can doesn't mean it should
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Agree!
scott.eden said:
Disagree about the camera, I have taken some superb shots with the note 3 , low light as well as daytime.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49803128&postcount=37
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50014253&postcount=43
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51176543&postcount=134
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50972243&postcount=115
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I agree that the note 3 camera aint so bad. I actually feel that it takes better shots than an SLR in daylight conditions. For medium to low light, thats when the note 3 starts to lose it edge. I almost always have to resort to using flash, and evenso, if the subjects are far like more than a meter away, the flash just wont cut it.
Dont get me wrong though, I love my note 3. Its not like I take a lot of photos in medium and low lights.
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I agree that the note 3 camera aint so bad. I actually feel that it takes better shots than an SLR in daylight conditions.
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It seems that way because the camera on the Note 3 (and most smartphones) oversaturates the picture. Makes the colours look all bright and shiny, and people like that.
It's when you zoom in past 20% actual-size preview that you start seeing the difference. (Unless you use one of those cheap pointless SLR's that sell for 100-300 quid. Those actually do take worse pictures.)

Google Camera App oddities (resolved after firmware update!)

I've been testing out @Arnova8G2 's Google Camera App port (version 5.1.016_v1.4beta5 ) and except for the slow motion mode which crashes the app instantly, it actually works REALLY well on the Zenfone 4 Pro's back camera, despite not being tested for this phone. Doesn't see the second sensor, but that is fine.
HDR+ works flawlessly without any crashes.
Easily beats the photo quality of Asus' own camera app by far, which is a shame because the sensor of this phone delivers quite good quality, and since it has been marketed so specifically as a great camera-smartphone it is kinda strange to see that Asus did not put more work into it.
EDIT:
Innnnnnnnnnnteresting!
The latest firmware update (WW-14.2610.1711.35) lists camera performance improvements, and now after applying that, those odd binary data artifacts no longer appear when using the Google Camera App! Same settings otherwise. Good job Asus! :fingers-crossed::good:
So this is no longer valid:
There is one thing that is odd though, hence this thread.
On each of the HDR+ or HDR+ Enhanced mode pics, there is an odd ribbon of... binary data(?) on the side of the sensor that would point towards the bottom edge where the USB port sits.
If the HDR+ mode is disabled and just the plain regular photos are saved, it doesn't appear. It does also not show up on any files captured with the regular camera app of Asus.
It looks like this:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
The pattern seems to vary. Here is a part of the same picture corner, across a couple of pics:
I tried fiddling with the settings of the app but I can't seem to get rid of this stuff. Any idea what this is?
Does this show up for other owners of this phone as well?
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damnaliens said:
I've been testing out @Arnova8G2 's Google Camera App port (version 5.1.016_v1.4beta5 ) and except for the slow motion mode which crashes the app instantly, it actually works REALLY well on the Zenfone 4 Pro's back camera, despite not being tested for this phone. Doesn't see the second sensor, but that is fine.
HDR+ works flawlessly without any crashes.
Easily beats the photo quality of Asus' own camera app by far, which is a shame because the sensor of this phone delivers quite good quality, and since it has been marketed so specifically as a great camera-smartphone it is kinda strange to see that Asus did not put more work into it.
There is one thing that is odd though, hence this thread.
On each of the HDR+ or HDR+ Enhanced mode pics, there is an odd ribbon of... binary data(?) on the side of the sensor that would point towards the bottom edge where the USB port sits.
If the HDR+ mode is disabled and just the plain regular photos are saved, it doesn't appear. It does also not show up on any files captured with the regular camera app of Asus.
It looks like this:
The pattern seems to vary. Here is a part of the same picture corner, across a couple of pics:
I tried fiddling with the settings of the app but I can't seem to get rid of this stuff. Any idea what this is?
Does this show up for other owners of this phone as well?
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Hi damnaliens,
Thank you for your test.
As you know,the google camera app is on a higher version,so it's compatible with most devices and camera lenses.
Your test helped me a lot.
I am going to buy ZenFone 4 Pro(128GB/6GB).
Do you suggest that for me?
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Vonarian said:
I am going to buy ZenFone 4 Pro(128GB/6GB).
Do you suggest that for me?
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Yup that is the version of the phone I also got. I'm very happy with it overall, performance is nice, so far no problems, so I'm sure you'll enjoy it if you plan on getting it as well. :highfive:
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Yup that is the version of the phone I also got. I'm very happy with it overall, performance is nice, so far no problems, so I'm sure you'll enjoy it if you plan on getting it as well. :highfive:
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I'm so excited than ZenFone 4 Pro(ZS551KL)
I'm an unofficial (official a little) ASUS Advertiser.
Nice Opinion Dear damnaliens.
I seems like IMX362 is better than IMX318!
Good luck.
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damnaliens said:
Yup that is the version of the phone I also got. I'm very happy with it overall, performance is nice, so far no problems, so I'm sure you'll enjoy it if you plan on getting it as well. :highfive:
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Excuse me,
Is camera quality good in low light?
How is the portrait mode?
Is optical zoom lens good in daylight?
What's your given score to main(12MP)camera from 100?(for example 90/100)
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Vonarian said:
Is camera quality good in low light?
How is the portrait mode?
Is optical zoom lens good in daylight?
What's your given score to main(12MP)camera from 100?(for example 90/100)
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For a smartphone camera, the performance in low light is satisfactory.
The portrait mode ... is a portrait mode. I feel this is mainly a software thing, so the sensor is not as important for this. I don't have any other phone to compare portrait modes against, my other phones are older and don't blur out the background. The font facing camera is good though.
The optical zoom lens is nice in daylight! In low indoor light it is not being used though, and even 2x zoom is done digitally. I wish there was a clearer indicator that this is the case, or at least a button so I can still use the more grainy zoom lens image. But again, software thing.
Lastly, hmmm. I think with the google camera app, the main 12MP camera can rival or beat the rating of the Pixel 2 phones, so something in the range of 95+/100 or higher. With the Asus app, the pictures look a bit worse because they're processed less intelligently. You can save raw images though so I feel it is not that important anyway. The camera hardware itself though is impressive, the autofocus is FAST!
damnaliens said:
For a smartphone camera, the performance in low light is satisfactory.
The portrait mode ... is a portrait mode. I feel this is mainly a software thing, so the sensor is not as important for this. I don't have any other phone to compare portrait modes against, my other phones are older and don't blur out the background. The font facing camera is good though.
The optical zoom lens is nice in daylight! In low indoor light it is not being used though, and even 2x zoom is done digitally. I wish there was a clearer indicator that this is the case, or at least a button so I can still use the more grainy zoom lens image. But again, software thing.
Lastly, hmmm. I think with the google camera app, the main 12MP camera can rival or beat the rating of the Pixel 2 phones, so something in the range of 95+/100 or higher. With the Asus app, the pictures look a bit worse because they're processed less intelligently. You can save raw images though so I feel it is not that important anyway. The camera hardware itself though is impressive, the autofocus is FAST!
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Oh!!
I took lots of time than you!
I'm so happy with your opinion!
I can see you are a professional android user(because you increased the resolution in the settings!i saw a review that the reviewer hasn't changed the resolution in the Asus settings xD)
Ok!we can be good ASUS users with our ZenFone 4 Pros.
Nice to have a people like you man!!
Good luck and enjoy your ZenFone 4 Pro! xD
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@Vonarian
Thanks.
If you got any more questions before you purchase yours, just toss me a PM!
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@Vonarian
Thanks.
If you got any more questions before you purchase yours, just toss me a PM!
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Sure!
God brought you to me xD XD Xd
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