[Q] The problem with flash desier s - HTC Desire S

Now I got my phone updated logo desier s flash I'm doing now when I'm low battery.

Please can you rephrase this sentence, as I don't understand what you're saying? Possibly after charging your battery.
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Xtc-clip s-off with anything I am not stuck on jumping to diag

hosiiiii said:
Xtc-clip s-off with anything I am not stuck on jumping to diag
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So far we know you are s-off. what exactly is your problem. If I may suggest, you can always write some more text

Lol at this thread
Did the phone get bricked?

djsubtronic said:
Did the phone get bricked?
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think he will if he doesn't manage to form a complete sentence
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I h-boot mode phone comes with s-off xtc I'm stuck on jumping to diag I can not even factory reset the phone to Hong

Yes, the phone hangs when I'm s-off

hosiiiii said:
Yes, the phone hangs when I'm s-off
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I suspect that these things are unrelated, you are soff which you achieved by xtc
But now your phone hangs on performing a reset?
what recovery do you have, have you tried formatting partitions from recovery?
Did you.pull the battery at any point?
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Wow thanks for the tips

Related

S-off (via AlphaRevX) restored stock and still s-off

Hi All,
This is my first ever post but im an avid user of XDA - Please forgive me if someone else has said this,
I installed AlphaRevX's s-off patch - Brilliant!!! Excellent! Until I read about the charging issue when the battery is flat, so flashed a custom rom to have a look see and quickly went back to stock ROM (RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.35.401.1_Radio_10.43a.9007.00U_10.51.9007.27_M3_release_198179_signed)
I just looked at the bootloader and I still have s-off without the Revolution text at the top!!! is this luck?!...
If not, looks like something worth investigating
Mart
Sure you was not s-off before?
If you are sure have a look if it is ship or radio soff or hboto soff
Can you send me some links regaridng to the error ? Get my sensation in a few days back and so i dont read all carefully ;-)
I'm pretty sure flashing the stock rom wouldn't mess with the bootloader at all and make it back to S-ON. Then again I could be wrong.
xtcislove said:
Sure you was not s-off before?
If you are sure have a look if it is ship or radio soff or hboto soff
Can you send me some links regaridng to the error ? Get my sensation in a few days back and so i dont read all carefully ;-)
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Definetly wasnt s-off before...
martinmoseley said:
Definetly wasnt s-off before...
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Let us know if it fixes the charging issue.
Sdobron said:
Let us know if it fixes the charging issue.
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Yup! Fixed the charging issue!
What is the battery charging issue when battery is "flat"?
And what does a battery-"flat" mean?
martinmoseley said:
Yup! Fixed the charging issue!
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But do you have CWM installed? I think CWM is the reason, not Revolutionary S-OFF.
I also think its the clockwork not the bootloader.
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Paul22000 said:
What is the battery charging issue when battery is "flat"?
And what does a battery-"flat" mean?
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Fat, lazy, and tired.
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Paul22000 said:
What is the battery charging issue when battery is "flat"?
And what does a battery-"flat" mean?
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mixmaven said:
I am having issues now with charging a completely dead battery. It doesn't recognize it, the orange charge light comes on for two seconds and then starts flashing orange or turns off completely. Multiple tries to charge doesn't make a difference. My battery is at 3.1v right now, so I am going to try charging it with a different phone and getting the voltage up. What ever you do, don't run your battery completely dead. Worked fine until this.
This is related to the recovery, so becareful what you flash. attached is a ZIPPED version of the orig recovery.
-mix
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If you would all please read the threads.
This is a known issue.
Clockwork Recovery released by Revolutionary currently does not support charging. So if you turn off your phone with fastboot disabled, you will not b able to charge.
Team Revolutionary are working to fix it, as soon as it is fixed, it will be updated in the S off sticky guide!
Flashing a Stock RUU will wipe everything including clockwork recovery with a stock recovery.
BUT IT WILL NOT REMOVE S-OFF.
so once you s-off and flash back to stock you stay s-off
I can confirm that flashing that stock RUU does remove the "Revolutionary" text at the top, almost as if we have a stock S-OFF device.
Where does one find the ruu ROM?
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Now try to go to your recovery after you revert back to shipped ruu and see if it works... mine does not.. it goes to a screen with a phone and a red triangle with an exclamation point when I try to load recovery.
After I flashed the official RUU, I simply placed the recovery zip back on my sd card and updated it the same as before
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I read in another thread that if you flash the eng hboot and then the offical RUU for your carrier that it should return you to stock with s-on.
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jmcghee1973 said:
Now try to go to your recovery after you revert back to shipped ruu and see if it works... mine does not.. it goes to a screen with a phone and a red triangle with an exclamation point when I try to load recovery.
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You need to reinstall clockwork recovery for it to boot into recovery mode again
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Ok, im very much a noob when it comes to the sensation, I had a Hero before this and i loved that phone!...
Ok this is what I can see, I can boot into recovery and I get a few limited options (wipe, flash update from zip etc) and I dont have the charging issue...
I can access recovery, i have s-off, i dont have charging issue...
Brilliant!
Just flashing the eng s-off removes it too.
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Is my Sensation Bricked?

I tried flashing the newest firmware but i wasn't SuperCID, now i cannot get past the HTC logo. I am able to get to recovery and to bootloader... Is my sensation bricked?
ronnyzilker said:
I tried flashing the newest firmware but i wasn't SuperCID, now i cannot get past the HTC logo. I am able to get to recovery and to bootloader... Is my sensation bricked?
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No, you're not brick...just look at ah-khor thread and find the right one.
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Thanks for the reply I will take a look right now....
epsix said:
No, you're not brick...just look at ah-khor thread and find the right one.
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I used the patch that he has in his thread but I'm still having the same issue.. nay ideas?
ronnyzilker said:
I used the patch that he has in his thread but I'm still having the same issue.. nay ideas?
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You're trying to update your firmware to 3.32 for ics rom right?
Are you S-OFF and rooted?
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hi i have got the same problem now
hi ive got a htc sensation xe and its s-off and rooted and i just put the PG58IMG file on my sd card which is the ics version and when i put it into hboot mode to install the update it tells me model id incorrect and it says update fail and it asks me to press power to reboot and it reboots but after it gets to the beats audio bootlogo it reboots again and again over and over i got really scared do you think i bricked my phone because i do not know what to do know could you please help me out thank
Find my post will help u out like third one here
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staya-ahmed said:
hi ive got a htc sensation xe and its s-off and rooted and i just put the PG58IMG file on my sd card which is the ics version and when i put it into hboot mode to install the update it tells me model id incorrect and it says update fail and it asks me to press power to reboot and it reboots but after it gets to the beats audio bootlogo it reboots again and again over and over i got really scared do you think i bricked my phone because i do not know what to do know could you please help me out thank
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I had that same issue. Make sure you're super CID as well. Then the file should update properly and you can continue with the flashing.
Htc sensation 4g bricked
i tried revolutionary method to root my phone but before the clockwork recovery my phone showed an update fail and not able to recover my phone with fastboot flash recovery.img also...Please help me
pyramid pvt ship S-off RL
HBOOT-1.27.0000
Radio-10.14.9035.01_m
eMMC-boot
Jan 13 2012,17.33.34
rajaram1988 said:
i tried revolutionary method to root my phone but before the clockwork recovery my phone showed an update fail and not able to recover my phone with fastboot flash recovery.img also...Please help me
pyramid pvt ship S-off RL
HBOOT-1.27.0000
Radio-10.14.9035.01_m
eMMC-boot
Jan 13 2012,17.33.34
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Find your correct ruu, download ruu.exe to your pc, put your phone into fastboot mode, from h boot screen press power, you can then connect your phone to pc and run the ruu.exe as administrator. This will take you back to stock, s off, unrooted phone. Your phone will be restored and working. Then go read all of the stickies thoroughly so you understand what you are doing and what you need to do to successfully flash ROMS without the risk of bricking.
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Rhiannon224 said:
Find your correct ruu, download ruu.exe to your pc, put your phone into fastboot mode, from h boot screen press power, you can then connect your phone to pc and run the ruu.exe as administrator. This will take you back to stock, s off, unrooted phone. Your phone will be restored and working. Then go read all of the stickies thoroughly so you understand what you are doing and what you need to do to successfully flash ROMS without the risk of bricking.
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Sorry for being a noob, I don't quite get what you are saying.
Right now I'm pretty scared of bricking my phone, i've decided not to upgrade. Can I just insert the micro-sd card into my computer, then delete the firmware file and be done with it and have my phone back to normal????
Please help!!
Hi I'm learning about everything too. I can say I don't regret rooting and flashing custom Rom for a second! It can be intimidating at first, trust me I know but if you stick with it your reward will be great! Before you do anything read about it. What I did was even print out instructions so I didn't miss a step that helped me out a lot when flashing my first Rom. There's a lot to learn but everyone here is so helpful. Ask questions, read. Soon it becomes clearer and easier to understand. Its up to you if you wish not to proceed, but I just wanted to give you a pep talk and let you know you can do this! But never proceed unless you are comfortable with it. I wish you the best and good luck in what ever you decide to do.
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The boot loop problem really scared the **** out of me. I guess i was being a little careless and didn't bother to check the CID of my phone, I thought I have Super CID already, but it is showing i have the incorrect CID.
I really want to experience ICS, even tho I am happy with my phone right now. I'm just so afraid of bricking my phone.
I guess I will do more homework on it before I do it.
Can someone answer my question in the previous post?
Thank you in advance

Back from repair now not sure how to root

Hi all, got my phone back from repair, with the latest orange crap and newest hboot. Ive read that I need to use Juopunutbear, to the s-off, root etc, but I dont like the look of Juopunutbear, (using wire? no chance_. I found the old revolution way much safer and easy to do. How can i still do it like that? Would i need to flash the old orange ruu on the sdcard?
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Hi all, got my phone back from repair, with the latest orange crap and newest hboot. Ive read that I need to use Juopunutbear, to the s-off, root etc, but I dont like the look of Juopunutbear. I found the old revolution way much safer and easy to do. How can i still do it like that? Would i need to flash the old orange ruu on the sdcard?
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You can't run older ruu when SON
To have custom rom's you need to do SOFF via Juopunutbear way or htc dev unlock
The later might not work for you.. As you might got motherboard replaced..
So only solution is JB via temproot
Link in my signature
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My repair was only for dust under the screen. so i have the choice of voiding warranty via a piece of wire (visual void), or I virtually tell htc im voiding it? There must be a sneakier way?
elgrego4 said:
so i have the choice of voiding warranty via a piece of wire (visual void), or I virtually tell htc im voiding it? There must be a sneakier way?
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I believe you do know that.. To turn back SON.. Just one command will do... So it literally means the process is reversible
And I'm afraid that there is no other way to use root/custom rom
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I dont actually mean using the exe, i mean pulling the pg file out and putting it on the sd, then it would let me flash back to gingerbread in the bootloader?
I see what you mean about not being able to go backwards. Im stuck now as the dev unlock is no use and I do not have the steady hand to do the wire trick
elgrego4 said:
I see what you mean about not being able to go backwards. Im stuck now as the dev unlock is no use and I do not have the steady hand to do the wire trick
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You can still flash ROMs while S On.
Its just that I found everything easier with s-off, rooted and supercid
elgrego4 said:
Its just that I found everything easier with s-off, rooted and supercid
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yes with SOFF ..everything is easy ..but sadly the JB method is the only way for you
Anyone working on a way to do it without the wire?
elgrego4 said:
Anyone working on a way to do it without the wire?
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idk and i dont think there's gonna be another SOFF process..as now ppl are concentrating on SOFF for ONE series
elgrego4 said:
Anyone working on a way to do it without the wire?
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I highly doubt it. If you're uncomfortable, you should stick with stock. It's always wise to not do it if you aren't sure of it..
If I had steady hands it wouldnt be a problem, Im a flashaholic, hate stock lol x
Maybe if you read over it a few times you might get a bit more comfortable with it? What I do is even print out the guide so I don't miss a step.this has really helped me in the past when doing new things, I know it may sound silly but its nice to have a printed guide infront of you incase you get in a pinch. This way all the steps are right there in front of you. This is what I do. Just a suggestion. If you DO decide to give it a shot then maybe this might help. I wish you the best in which ever you decide. I just wanted to share this with you because having a printed guide has really helped me out in the past. Good luck and best wishes to you!
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Well I decided to give it a go, downloaded everything printed of instructions etc. Ran the temp root file, then it said now run the bear, but after bear connected to my phone it says not rooted? Now I'm stuck.
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elgrego4 said:
Well I decided to give it a go, downloaded everything printed of instructions etc. Ran the temp root file, then it said now run the bear, but after bear connected to my phone it says not rooted? Now I'm stuck.
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not properly rooted ..it seems..
did you got any errors when temp root was run...also make sure htc sync is uninstalled(have the drivers installed too) and the phone should be kept in htc sync mode ...also no hubs or usb 3.0 ports
Thanks for the help, it worked sort of. I completed the s off I said yes to modified hboot, then removed temp root. Then applied root. Problem is the hboot still shows as the normal but with s off and when I try to install recovery it says wrong cid. Nearly there
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elgrego4 said:
Thanks for the help, it worked sort of. I completed the s off I said yes to modified hboot, then removed temp root. Then applied root. Problem is the hboot still shows as the normal but with s off and when I try to install recovery it says wrong cid. Nearly there
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what nearly there ...you are done lol..
just do a supercid
(first note down the actual cid though..just in case ...fastboot getvar cid ..to know cid)
fastboot oem writecid 11111111
EDIT: ohh the hboot is still locked huh ..
then get the pyramic ics one from here http://unlimited.io/hboot-downloads/
and flash it (instructions in the same link)
also after those instructions..to get back to bootloader..the command is "fastboot reboot-bootloader" without quotes
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Thanks for the help, it worked sort of. I completed the s off I said yes to modified hboot, then removed temp root. Then applied root. Problem is the hboot still shows as the normal but with s off and when I try to install recovery it says wrong cid. Nearly there
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If your Hboot still says *locked* you cannot flash a recovery.
Please get the correct Hboot from here & follow flashing instructions: http://unlimited.io/hboot-downloads/
You can then proceed to flashing recovery.
Right done that even though the green line never goes to the end my hboot no longer says locked. I put the recovery zip on the sd, booted into bootloader said yes, completed and rebooted, but no custom recovery there?
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Desire s bootloop during downgrade

Hi,
i was trying to downgrade my desire s with tacoroot,'cause zergrush give me some error messages on the command line....so,i followed all the procedure for the downgrade,'till i came across step 5..after i've done it,my desire rebooted...and still strucked on the "htc quietly brilliant" logo!it continue to bootloop!what i have to do to continue the procedure for the downgrade?my desire s have the 2.00.0002 hboot..and is s-on and unrooted..i was just starting to do all the stuff!
please help!:fingers-crossed:
When it's temp rooted, run the miscversion binary with adb and downgrade using the oldest RUU for your phone
the bootloop is normal.
My phone doesn't even start up , unless I go into the bootloader menu and press recovery . Instead of the recovery opening up , my phone goes into the GUI. I can't seem to flash a new recovery either, due to which I can't flash a new Rom. I have tried all possible solutions but just can't seem to figure it out. Plese help me !
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shreyas.singh said:
My phone doesn't even start up , unless I go into the bootloader menu and press recovery . Instead of the recovery opening up , my phone goes into the GUI. I can't seem to flash a new recovery either, due to which I can't flash a new Rom. I have tried all possible solutions but just can't seem to figure it out. Plese help me !
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Are you S-OFF or Unlocked?
On which hboot version are you?
why must people insist on using these methods
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021403
this method is much easier and will save alot of time as for predicament go into fastboot and use abd to flash recovery those instructions are also on my page somewhere it mayb a link I can't rember
ben_s247 said:
why must people insist on using these methods
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021403
this method is much easier and will save alot of time as for predicament go into fastboot and use abd to flash recovery those instructions are also on my page somewhere it mayb a link I can't rember
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It gets your device in the relocked state and I think thats what most users don't want if they're still on waranty
to be honast I would rather a working phone than one with warrenty especially since its not worth the paper its written on
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to be honast I would rather a working phone than one with warrenty especially since its not worth the paper its written on
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If he is on gb he doesnt need to unlock, he can straight s-off it and retain his warranty, the guide to do that totally works. Unlocking is totally unnecessary and is just going the extra road to s-off.
Your post is only if someone who has upgraded to official ics and wans to s-off, which is not possible as the person first needs to unlock.
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Are you S-OFF or Unlocked?
On which hboot version are you?
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My phone is unlocked only , not s-off and I'm on version 2.00.002 :/
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My phone is unlocked only , not s-off and I'm on version 2.00.002 :/
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Well then you could really just use the guide mentioned here.
But As long as a user is in the LOCKED state he should try to remain there...
For me it's a "beauty" thing xD
ben_s247 said:
why must people insist on using these methods
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021403
this method is much easier and will save alot of time as for predicament go into fastboot and use abd to flash recovery those instructions are also on my page somewhere it mayb a link I can't rember
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shreyas.singh said:
My phone doesn't even start up , unless I go into the bootloader menu and press recovery . Instead of the recovery opening up , my phone goes into the GUI. I can't seem to flash a new recovery either, due to which I can't flash a new Rom. I have tried all possible solutions but just can't seem to figure it out. Plese help me !
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ok so you have tried to follow my guide above which bit are you having trouble with in flashing recovery?make sure you are selecting fastboot in the bootloader and that it should say usb try checking if the phone can be seen by using fastboot devices.

[Q] hELP!!

Okay so I have a problem . So i had the 2.20 firmware but rooted and unlocked BL but with s-on. Later on i flash roms until i stayed with urdroid jb rom.
After that i was debating on to try the method of getting s-off with a mac. I asked for helped in facepalm's s-off thread but now no one helped me..that sucks
Now i tryed to get s-off by myself with a mac but it went well until the point where adb does not reconnect at all after the "fastboot flash OneX.zip"
after that it just went to hell as where it did not reboot anymore and then i tried to reflash urdroids rom again with boot.img flashed in fastboot.
after that it stayed in bootloader and hung there forever. It does not even go to recovery mode anymore.Once it went to recovery but the sdcard does not mount at all..
Now i tried a ruu and relocked the BL again and i got a friends window pc to use the ruu..Now it works everything until It says checking HBOOT..thats where it freezes and restarts over and over again.
ANY HELP?? PLEASE RESPOND ASAP AS THIS IS A EMERGENCY AS I HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW MORNING>
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Okay so I have a problem . So i had the 2.20 firmware but rooted and unlocked BL but with s-on. Later on i flash roms until i stayed with urdroid jb rom.
After that i was debating on to try the method of getting s-off with a mac. I asked for helped in facepalm's s-off thread but now no one helped me..that sucks
Now i tryed to get s-off by myself with a mac but it went well until the point where adb does not reconnect at all after the "fastboot flash OneX.zip"
after that it just went to hell as where it did not reboot anymore and then i tried to reflash urdroids rom again with boot.img flashed in fastboot.
after that it stayed in bootloader and hung there forever. It does not even go to recovery mode anymore.Once it went to recovery but the sdcard does not mount at all..
Now i tried a ruu and relocked the BL again and i got a friends window pc to use the ruu..Now it works everything until It says checking HBOOT..thats where it freezes and restarts over and over again.
ANY HELP?? PLEASE RESPOND ASAP AS THIS IS A EMERGENCY AS I HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW MORNING>
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What hboot version is your phone and what ruu are you trying to flash?
Venomtester said:
What hboot version is your phone and what ruu are you trying to flash?
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Well its even worse. I was on the 1.14 hboot. but i was using the RUU of the 3.18..
Yeah i think i bricked it..It doesnt turn on or anything now.
AwesomeEvo said:
Well its even worse. I was on the 1.14 hboot. but i was using the RUU of the 3.18..
Yeah i think i bricked it..It doesnt turn on or anything now.
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If you don't have a warranty you can send it into mobiletechvideos.com and see if they can fix it.
RollTribe said:
If you don't have a warranty you can send it into mobiletechvideos.com and see if they can fix it.
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Yeah i don't know because well..i'm a student (meaning I dont have a job and am looking for one) and this OneXL is sim-free and is not being used on contract so no service either
AwesomeEvo said:
Yeah i don't know because well..i'm a student (meaning I dont have a job and am looking for one) and this OneXL is sim-free and is not being used on contract so no service either
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Hmmm, an unfortunate lesson on the perils of doing stuff you don't really understand.
When you connect it to the charger does the charge light come on?
cr1960 said:
Hmmm, an unfortunate lesson on the perils of doing stuff you don't really understand.
When you connect it to the charger does the charge light come on?
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Nothing turns on at all.Not even the notification light. And i let this phone charge all night too
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Nothing turns on at all.Not even the notification light. And i let this phone charge all night too
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That is a brick. Jtag or try the unbrick thread. I think if you can make it past step 3 you can fix it
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31ken31 said:
That is a brick. Jtag or try the unbrick thread. I think if you can make it past step 3 you can fix it
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I was looking into that but i dont understand the part about smoldering and a riff box
AwesomeEvo said:
I was looking into that but i dont understand the part about smoldering and a riff box
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I think venomtester can Jtag or mobiletech people maybe shoot him a pm and check
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31ken31 said:
I think venomtester can Jtag or mobiletech people maybe shoot him a pm and check
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ok thanks!

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