Hi all, got my phone back from repair, with the latest orange crap and newest hboot. Ive read that I need to use Juopunutbear, to the s-off, root etc, but I dont like the look of Juopunutbear, (using wire? no chance_. I found the old revolution way much safer and easy to do. How can i still do it like that? Would i need to flash the old orange ruu on the sdcard?
elgrego4 said:
Hi all, got my phone back from repair, with the latest orange crap and newest hboot. Ive read that I need to use Juopunutbear, to the s-off, root etc, but I dont like the look of Juopunutbear. I found the old revolution way much safer and easy to do. How can i still do it like that? Would i need to flash the old orange ruu on the sdcard?
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You can't run older ruu when SON
To have custom rom's you need to do SOFF via Juopunutbear way or htc dev unlock
The later might not work for you.. As you might got motherboard replaced..
So only solution is JB via temproot
Link in my signature
Sent from my pyramid.. Through blazing fast sonic waves
My repair was only for dust under the screen. so i have the choice of voiding warranty via a piece of wire (visual void), or I virtually tell htc im voiding it? There must be a sneakier way?
elgrego4 said:
so i have the choice of voiding warranty via a piece of wire (visual void), or I virtually tell htc im voiding it? There must be a sneakier way?
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I believe you do know that.. To turn back SON.. Just one command will do... So it literally means the process is reversible
And I'm afraid that there is no other way to use root/custom rom
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I dont actually mean using the exe, i mean pulling the pg file out and putting it on the sd, then it would let me flash back to gingerbread in the bootloader?
I see what you mean about not being able to go backwards. Im stuck now as the dev unlock is no use and I do not have the steady hand to do the wire trick
elgrego4 said:
I see what you mean about not being able to go backwards. Im stuck now as the dev unlock is no use and I do not have the steady hand to do the wire trick
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You can still flash ROMs while S On.
Its just that I found everything easier with s-off, rooted and supercid
elgrego4 said:
Its just that I found everything easier with s-off, rooted and supercid
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yes with SOFF ..everything is easy ..but sadly the JB method is the only way for you
Anyone working on a way to do it without the wire?
elgrego4 said:
Anyone working on a way to do it without the wire?
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idk and i dont think there's gonna be another SOFF process..as now ppl are concentrating on SOFF for ONE series
elgrego4 said:
Anyone working on a way to do it without the wire?
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I highly doubt it. If you're uncomfortable, you should stick with stock. It's always wise to not do it if you aren't sure of it..
If I had steady hands it wouldnt be a problem, Im a flashaholic, hate stock lol x
Maybe if you read over it a few times you might get a bit more comfortable with it? What I do is even print out the guide so I don't miss a step.this has really helped me in the past when doing new things, I know it may sound silly but its nice to have a printed guide infront of you incase you get in a pinch. This way all the steps are right there in front of you. This is what I do. Just a suggestion. If you DO decide to give it a shot then maybe this might help. I wish you the best in which ever you decide. I just wanted to share this with you because having a printed guide has really helped me out in the past. Good luck and best wishes to you!
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Well I decided to give it a go, downloaded everything printed of instructions etc. Ran the temp root file, then it said now run the bear, but after bear connected to my phone it says not rooted? Now I'm stuck.
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elgrego4 said:
Well I decided to give it a go, downloaded everything printed of instructions etc. Ran the temp root file, then it said now run the bear, but after bear connected to my phone it says not rooted? Now I'm stuck.
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not properly rooted ..it seems..
did you got any errors when temp root was run...also make sure htc sync is uninstalled(have the drivers installed too) and the phone should be kept in htc sync mode ...also no hubs or usb 3.0 ports
Thanks for the help, it worked sort of. I completed the s off I said yes to modified hboot, then removed temp root. Then applied root. Problem is the hboot still shows as the normal but with s off and when I try to install recovery it says wrong cid. Nearly there
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elgrego4 said:
Thanks for the help, it worked sort of. I completed the s off I said yes to modified hboot, then removed temp root. Then applied root. Problem is the hboot still shows as the normal but with s off and when I try to install recovery it says wrong cid. Nearly there
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what nearly there ...you are done lol..
just do a supercid
(first note down the actual cid though..just in case ...fastboot getvar cid ..to know cid)
fastboot oem writecid 11111111
EDIT: ohh the hboot is still locked huh ..
then get the pyramic ics one from here http://unlimited.io/hboot-downloads/
and flash it (instructions in the same link)
also after those instructions..to get back to bootloader..the command is "fastboot reboot-bootloader" without quotes
elgrego4 said:
Thanks for the help, it worked sort of. I completed the s off I said yes to modified hboot, then removed temp root. Then applied root. Problem is the hboot still shows as the normal but with s off and when I try to install recovery it says wrong cid. Nearly there
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If your Hboot still says *locked* you cannot flash a recovery.
Please get the correct Hboot from here & follow flashing instructions: http://unlimited.io/hboot-downloads/
You can then proceed to flashing recovery.
Right done that even though the green line never goes to the end my hboot no longer says locked. I put the recovery zip on the sd, booted into bootloader said yes, completed and rebooted, but no custom recovery there?
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I've checked every possible tag in my mind about this and couldn't find one for Sensation.
Is it possible to revet back to the original state before the Revolutionary. Is it possible to completely uninstall the Revolutionary from my phone?
I'm not talking about the s-off -> s-on
I'm talking about returning the phones software to its original state.
Like it is never installed in the first place.
Thank you.
It's funny because last weekend I wanted to do exactly the same thing.
What I learnt was to go from S-OFF back to S-ON can be quite fiddly and tricky, abd if you mess it up rub the risk of bricking your phone.
In order to get the stock Rom, here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
Now it's just a case of finding which one you are, and your ril and radio.
Good luck
Thank you for your answer. But this is not what I want I can do this already but when I check the bootloader I see the pink "Locked" and it tells me that Revolutionary is still there.
I can go to S-On without any trouble that is not what I am asking.
What I am asking is to be able to get rid of every little bit of coding about the Revolutionary and return my phone to its original bootloader software.
If is says locked then ur good since that's what it said when you bought the phone.
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moshe22 said:
If is says locked then ur good since that's what it said when you bought the phone.
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When I get my phone there wasn't such writing. It is the product of Revolutionary.
So it is still there. I want to be able to get rid of it.
I'm not asking this about the warranty purposes. I'm asking this because I've realized that after using Revolutionary I can't install any app from market via wireless no matter what I did. Strangely it is fine to surf and download via mobile.
I know this because this is the Second Sensation I've faced having this problem and I remember some user Leviathan(maybe wrong?) talking about wifi dieing after Revolutionary.
So what I need is to get rid of it and be able to install original bootloader(maybe bootloader is not the right term here I don't know).
webmanya said:
When I get my phone there wasn't such writing. It is the product of Revolutionary.
So it is still there. I want to be able to get rid of it.
I'm not asking this about the warranty purposes. I'm asking this because I've realized that after using Revolutionary I can't install any app from market via wireless no matter what I did. Strangely it is fine to surf and download via mobile.
I know this because this is the Second Sensation I've faced having this problem and I remember some user Leviathan(maybe wrong?) talking about wifi dieing after Revolutionary.
So what I need is to get rid of it and be able to install original bootloader(maybe bootloader is not the right term here I don't know).
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flash stock hboot, should come with a ruu file, but you can always check if you extract rom.zip from the ruu.exe.
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I've tried installing stock roms over it no luck untill now.
webmanya said:
I've tried installing stock roms over it no luck untill now.
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i am saying that you probably have a modified hboot, because of the revolutionary sOFF, just like alpharev. you need to flash stock hboot to get everything back, hboot flashing is dangerous, if it goes wrong youll have a brick.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire
and stock hboots are found in ruus.
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smokzye said:
and stock hboots are found in ruus.
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Thank you for your answer. I understand what do you mean. But I'm not sure if it will help because while flashing stock rom it also updates hboot.
i just bought a sensation, and now i'm a previous HD2 owner. so i'm not a noob, i hope.
so...unlocking bootloader and rooting and s-Off...which one to follow? the official on hTCDev website or the revolutionary way?! any difference between those?
please someone clarify some things, as i just became a sensation user, i have no idea about anything of these since HD2 is way different as i noticed and since there are a lot of info on the net, i don't wanna get into things i shouldn't.
i got a second hand sensation but it's still on factory default with android 2.3.4 and sense 3.0
really any help is greatly appreciated
If your HBOOT is supported by Revolutionary ALWAYS use that one...
I dont like HTCdev - It should only be used if your HBOOT is unsupported
Just have a good read through all the noob guides. Be sure of what you're doing before attempting anything...
I cant stress how important it is to follow the guides 100%
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If your HBOOT is supported by Revolutionary ALWAYS use that one...
I dont like HTCdev - It should only be used if your HBOOT is unsupported
Just have a good read through all the noob guides. Be sure of what you're doing before attempting anything...
I cant stress how important it is to follow the guides 100%
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okay great, that was so helpful! you're really a good Q&A contributor, i don't know were i would have learned that anywhere else!
i'm off to check if my Hboot is supported.
thanks button clicked, cheers!
cant help but detect some sarcasm there
azzledazzle said:
cant help but detect some sarcasm there
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eh? why would you say that?!
Maybe i misinterpreted it !
who knows ?
azzledazzle said:
cant help but detect some sarcasm there
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no really i searched like two hours and on youtube but i couldn't know what's the difference between the official tool and the one called revolutionary...why you felt sarcasm in my words is beyond me...sorry anyway...
haha maybe its just me..
Anyway, Revolutionary IS THEE best tool for S-OFF... providing your HBOOT is supported of course. Did you check to see if its supported ?
if you got hboot 1.18.0000 please use revolutionary method to unlock your boot loader. If you unlock your bootloader with htcdev method you will unlock somd parts of the hboot. not every thing. then you cant flash a custom kernel because it already locked boot.img and cant write a new file over it. thne you will get wifi,bluetooth problems. so unlock your bootloader with revolutionary.
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azzledazzle said:
haha maybe its just me..
Anyway, Revolutionary IS THEE best tool for S-OFF... providing your HBOOT is supported of course. Did you check to see if its supported ?
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yep, it's supported i will do it tonight before bed and sleep at ease having it unlocked ^.^
namila007 said:
if you got hboot 1.18.0000 please use revolutionary method to unlock your boot loader. If you unlock your bootloader with htcdev method you will unlock somd parts of the hboot. not every thing. then you cant flash a custom kernel because it already locked boot.img and cant write a new file over it. thne you will get wifi,bluetooth problems. so unlock your bootloader with revolutionary.
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i appreciate your concern i'll certainly use revolutionary.
arabology said:
i appreciate your concern i'll certainly use revolutionary.
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great
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arabology said:
yep, it's supported i will do it tonight before bed and sleep at ease having it unlocked ^.^
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Happing rooting...
Just curious, how will rooting (& thereby voiding the warranty) bring you some peace... For most people, it would bring anxiety (& bad dreams)...
Wait a minute, you said unlocking, i hope you didn't mean sim-unlock instead of rooting?
Cheers, Jp
japinder said:
Happing rooting...
Just curious, how will rooting (& thereby voiding the warranty) bring you some peace... For most people, it would bring anxiety (& bad dreams)...
Wait a minute, you said unlocking, i hope you didn't mean sim-unlock instead of rooting?
Cheers, Jp
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hehe yeah. no my phone is not sim locked
it didn't work!!
i tried it and my HBOOT is 1.18.0000 revolutionary supports it! i filled up everything correctly on the site and got a beta key. on revolutionary.exe, it ditects my phone just fine, after that i copy/paste the beta key. it starts but after a minute is gives "failed to get root "
help?
Did you get S-OFF via revolutionary ??
what does your HBOOT say now ??
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Did you get S-OFF via revolutionary ??
what does your HBOOT say now ??
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thanks for your reply. nothing changed in my after i tried revolutionary. HBOOT is still 1.18.0000
and it still says S-ON ??
If so try it again Copy the beta key into notepad and enter it into revolutionary manually.
then tell me what happens, also, link me to the guide you are / was following, and what step you got to before this problem occurred
azzledazzle said:
and it still says S-ON ??
If so try it again Copy the beta key into notepad and enter it into revolutionary manually.
then tell me what happens, also, link me to the guide you are / was following, and what step you got to before this problem occurred
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yeah it still rights LOCKED up with pinkish red highlight and under it S-ON RL
i already tried like 5-6 times...nothing worked...i installed drivers, unticked fast boot on phone, and ticks usb debugging...
i followed this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
oh i got the error on step 1 in revolutionary...
So I sent my Sensation back to HTC to repair after i managed to ruin it replacing the screen myself. They did it under warranty which is ace, but not my new problem...
Basically I want to go full root and custom rom, but the device has come back bright and shiny with HBOOT 1.29.0000 (mar 2 2012) and none of my usual methods are able to unlock that.
I've spotted I've spotted the juopunutbear method, but no way am I connecting wires to hot points on my device, I'd rather be stuck with S-ON and wait for my next device.
Are there any other solutions / is revolutionary still under development?
1.29 hmmm that's new we are on 1.27 you'll be waiting for a bit if new scoff don't work
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I have the same problem, get mine back from warranty repair with same hboot version. Did you unlocked yours with htcdev successfully?
I just opened a threat for that, maybe we could talk there about that problem...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1621048
I hope someone could help us to resolve that?
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using XDA
JPBear is your only option at the moment, assuming it works on 1.29 of course.
It's pretty safe though, what the shorting does is activate some sort of download mode, it's also used for the unbricking project.
purebeatz said:
I have the same problem, get mine back from warranty repair with same hboot version. Did you unlocked yours with htcdev successfully?
I just opened a threat for that, maybe we could talk there about that problem...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1621048
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Unlocking with HTCDEV failed for me as well, maybe the 1.29 HBOOT is too new and isn't part of the bootloader unlocker yet? Either way I''d bet it's down to that, will get involved on your thread.
Rusty! said:
JPBear is your only option at the moment, assuming it works on 1.29 of course.
It's pretty safe though, what the shorting does is activate some sort of download mode, it's also used for the unbricking project.
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Ah fair enough, I just don't feel comfortable with that kinda hack.
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Ah fair enough, I just don't feel comfortable with that kinda hack.
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If it makes you feel any better about it, HTC does it every time they need to enter download mode to completely flash a new everything. It's not actually shorting anything, it's just connecting some pins together, and as the phone boots up, it's probably asking "Are these pins connected?" and if they are it enters download mode.
Hi guys.
I want to have my sensation rooted and s-off, so I will be able to install a custom rom on my device. I'm running on stock ics 4.0.3 hboot 1.27.0000 and firmware 3.33.401.53. I don't want to use the htcdev, because I don't want to loose the warranty. I found the "wire tricks method", but it looks to risky for me. Also I want to mention, that my motherboard was replaced just a few weeks ago. Any suggestions how could I get my Sensation to get rooted/s-offed?
Thank you for your help and cooperation
Wrong section mate
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tulenowich said:
Hi guys.
I want to have my sensation rooted and s-off, so I will be able to install a custom rom on my device. I'm running on stock ics 4.0.3 hboot 1.27.0000 and firmware 3.33.401.53. I don't want to use the htcdev, because I don't want to loose the warranty. I found the "wire tricks method", but it looks to risky for me. Also I want to mention, that my motherboard was replaced just a few weeks ago. Any suggestions how could I get my Sensation to get rooted/s-offed?
Thank you for your help and cooperation
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this thread should be opened in Q&A thread.nevemind
with your hboot version the only way to S-OFF your device is using the juopunutbear method which requires the wire trick
there is no other way to do it.see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661631
otherwise you can use only the htcdev unlock method to unlock the bootloader and then root
but in this case you might have a problem because you have replaced your motherboard which means that it cames with different imei than the original one
if i remember there is a guide for replaced motherboards(different imei)
The wire trick isn't hard at all. I did it with a paperclip. It takes some tries to get it right though (I always gave up after 5 times, so it took me a couple of nights ). Just make sure you have a backup of your sd card.
If you are using 4Ext recovery you can flash a custom ROM with S-ON.
In 4Ext go to Tools and scroll to the bottom and enable smart flash.
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If you are using 4Ext recovery you can flash a custom ROM with S-ON.
In 4Ext go to Tools and scroll to the bottom and enable smart flash.
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This is your best bet.
ridder215215 said:
The wire trick isn't hard at all. I did it with a paperclip. It takes some tries to get it right though (I always gave up after 5 times, so it took me a couple of nights ). Just make sure you have a backup of your sd card.
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Got the wire trick the first time Worth it all!
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Thanks guys for your advices. The wire trick did the job!!!
tulenowich said:
Thanks guys for your advices. The wire trick did the job!!!
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Hi,
i was trying to downgrade my desire s with tacoroot,'cause zergrush give me some error messages on the command line....so,i followed all the procedure for the downgrade,'till i came across step 5..after i've done it,my desire rebooted...and still strucked on the "htc quietly brilliant" logo!it continue to bootloop!what i have to do to continue the procedure for the downgrade?my desire s have the 2.00.0002 hboot..and is s-on and unrooted..i was just starting to do all the stuff!
please help!:fingers-crossed:
When it's temp rooted, run the miscversion binary with adb and downgrade using the oldest RUU for your phone
the bootloop is normal.
My phone doesn't even start up , unless I go into the bootloader menu and press recovery . Instead of the recovery opening up , my phone goes into the GUI. I can't seem to flash a new recovery either, due to which I can't flash a new Rom. I have tried all possible solutions but just can't seem to figure it out. Plese help me !
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shreyas.singh said:
My phone doesn't even start up , unless I go into the bootloader menu and press recovery . Instead of the recovery opening up , my phone goes into the GUI. I can't seem to flash a new recovery either, due to which I can't flash a new Rom. I have tried all possible solutions but just can't seem to figure it out. Plese help me !
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Are you S-OFF or Unlocked?
On which hboot version are you?
why must people insist on using these methods
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021403
this method is much easier and will save alot of time as for predicament go into fastboot and use abd to flash recovery those instructions are also on my page somewhere it mayb a link I can't rember
ben_s247 said:
why must people insist on using these methods
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021403
this method is much easier and will save alot of time as for predicament go into fastboot and use abd to flash recovery those instructions are also on my page somewhere it mayb a link I can't rember
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It gets your device in the relocked state and I think thats what most users don't want if they're still on waranty
to be honast I would rather a working phone than one with warrenty especially since its not worth the paper its written on
ben_s247 said:
to be honast I would rather a working phone than one with warrenty especially since its not worth the paper its written on
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If he is on gb he doesnt need to unlock, he can straight s-off it and retain his warranty, the guide to do that totally works. Unlocking is totally unnecessary and is just going the extra road to s-off.
Your post is only if someone who has upgraded to official ics and wans to s-off, which is not possible as the person first needs to unlock.
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Are you S-OFF or Unlocked?
On which hboot version are you?
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My phone is unlocked only , not s-off and I'm on version 2.00.002 :/
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shreyas.singh said:
My phone is unlocked only , not s-off and I'm on version 2.00.002 :/
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Well then you could really just use the guide mentioned here.
But As long as a user is in the LOCKED state he should try to remain there...
For me it's a "beauty" thing xD
ben_s247 said:
why must people insist on using these methods
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021403
this method is much easier and will save alot of time as for predicament go into fastboot and use abd to flash recovery those instructions are also on my page somewhere it mayb a link I can't rember
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shreyas.singh said:
My phone doesn't even start up , unless I go into the bootloader menu and press recovery . Instead of the recovery opening up , my phone goes into the GUI. I can't seem to flash a new recovery either, due to which I can't flash a new Rom. I have tried all possible solutions but just can't seem to figure it out. Plese help me !
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ok so you have tried to follow my guide above which bit are you having trouble with in flashing recovery?make sure you are selecting fastboot in the bootloader and that it should say usb try checking if the phone can be seen by using fastboot devices.