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Have been really please with the Z3 since I got it. Performance is great and in general I really like the camera and the range of options however...when I photograph anything that is red or has red in the scene the camera/processing doesn't truly represent the colour and adds a pinkish tinge to the image.
Not sure exactly what is happening here, if the Z3 is producing cooler images than expected but would love to have some feedback from everyone else.
Some images, especially in low light directly on to a white background produce a pinkish spot. I've seen this reported on the Sony forum with some Z3C owners so i'm not sure if this is contrabuting the the problem.
I shot these in manual mode>8mp>auto WB
Anyone else had this issue?
About the Pink Spot - http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...peria-z3-camera/td-p/839421?sl=y&sso_no_log=y
linuxares said:
About the Pink Spot - http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...peria-z3-camera/td-p/839421?sl=y&sso_no_log=y
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Yeah I'm aware of that issue and have it very slightly in low light situations against a white background. I went back and looked at some camera samples from a couple of reviews for the Z3 and it does appear that when images have content that is red the camera struggles to represent the true colour (i'm not sure how to explain this better). Red appear to be more like magenta or have a pink tint to them.
Am going to go to a couple of stores and see if I can recreate the effect. The issue with the pink spot may of course be adding to the problem i'm having.
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Yeah I'm aware of that issue and have it very slightly in low light situations against a white background. I went back and looked at some camera samples from a couple of reviews for the Z3 and it does appear that when images have content that is red the camera struggles to represent the true colour (i'm not sure how to explain this better). Red appear to be more like magenta or have a pink tint to them.
Am going to go to a couple of stores and see if I can recreate the effect. The issue with the pink spot may of course be adding to the problem i'm having.
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Should be possible to disentangle the two problems fairly easily; take a picture of the red book where the book is only on one side of the photo. Additionally, just take a picture of a grey wall.
Also, try playing with the white balance; using auto isn't really going to help. If there's not a manual option (i've not really played with the camera on my phone much yet) then try a few different settings and see if there's a pattern.
Lollipop brings support for RAW mode so these problems go away then, or are at least partially mitigated (at the cost of a little post-processing, anyway). Even the odd pink blob problem, if it turns out to be hardware related, could be almost entirely handled there.
Been busy but just managed to get back to the issue and photograph the book again.
It seems to be a white balance issue with Superior Auto mode not selecting the correct white balance setting for the image. The first image I took was with Superior Auto mode selected and the second image with Manual mode and white balance set to cloudy. It was an interior shot and not a particularly sunny day outside but the second image with Manual Mode is a better representation of the colour of the book. I even notice this outside and will take try and get some more shots to show the issue.
I'm disappointed that the Superior Auto mode isn't picking the correct balance. The reds appear to have a cool blue feel to them, and I bought the Z3 so I could have a phone with a above average camera on it that I can pull out and capture moment without worrying too much about the settings. Maybe i'm being over critical but it seems to struggle in areas that even my girlfriends iPhone 4s has no problem with.
Darles2012 said:
Been busy but just managed to get back to the issue and photograph the book again.
It seems to be a white balance issue with Superior Auto mode not selecting the correct white balance setting for the image. The first image I took was with Superior Auto mode selected and the second image with Manual mode and white balance set to cloudy. It was an interior shot and not a particularly sunny day outside but the second image with Manual Mode is a better representation of the colour of the book. I even notice this outside and will take try and get some more shots to show the issue.
I'm disappointed that the Superior Auto mode isn't picking the correct balance. The reds appear to have a cool blue feel to them, and I bought the Z3 so I could have a phone with a above average camera on it that I can pull out and capture moment without worrying too much about the settings. Maybe i'm being over critical but it seems to struggle in areas that even my girlfriends iPhone 4s has no problem with.
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I've not experimented with the camera too much. I've taken a few pictures in good light and without too critical an inspection they look fantastic. Your first image below looks as if it might suffer from the `pink dot` problem. You can't really tell because of the colour of the left part of the picture but it does look like it. If you tried that again on a white background perhaps it would be clearer. You could take a picture of a white piece of paper in different modes/white balances and see if there's a problem, and if so a pattern to the problem. If the problem is only in some white balances then it suggests it's not a hardware problem and therefore a software fix could sort it. From what I know, white balance is a software thing where RGB values are biased differently; perhaps there's a bug there. Auto white balance, even on professional cameras, isn't always perfect. I've an EOS400D camera and I tend to shoot in RAW mode (which will be supported in Lollipop) where the white balance selected is not "burnt in" to the image and can be changed losslessly in post production.
I went on a trip to the beach at the weekend and had to bin all my Superior Auto shots as they came out absolutely awful. All of the 20mp manual shots came out great if not a little over exposed on the sun
Try also turning off X-reality as it makes reds look a bit more purple.
I've found manual mode takes great pics and reproduces the colours brilliantly.
Try changing the white balance, manual mode is better, though even I like to just point and shoot. Hopefully auto mode will be fixed in an update.
Jonathan-H said:
I went on a trip to the beach at the weekend and had to bin all my Superior Auto shots as they came out absolutely awful. All of the 20mp manual shots came out great if not a little over exposed on the sun
Try also turning off X-reality as it makes reds look a bit more purple.
I've found manual mode takes great pics and reproduces the colours brilliantly.
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Agreed. It's pretty awful, it's obviously not selecting the correct white balance mode. As you can see from the first pic below...it's ridiculously bad. The second is shot with Manual Mode and it a lot more acurate.
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Try changing the white balance, manual mode is better, though even I like to just point and shoot. Hopefully auto mode will be fixed in an update.
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Yes it is better. I guess i'll have to leave the camera setting on Manual as much as possible and just make a quick WB change before closing the shutter. I'll get in touch with Sony again and raise the issue although last time they just suggested a software repair which didn't really change anything. Like you said, hopefully the can release a software fix although, judging by their response to the pink spot issue I won't be holding my breath.
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Agreed. It's pretty awful, it's obviously not selecting the correct white balance mode. As you can see from the first pic below...it's ridiculously bad. The second is shot with Manual Mode and it a lot more acurate.
Yes it is better. I guess i'll have to leave the camera setting on Manual as much as possible and just make a quick WB change before closing the shutter. I'll get in touch with Sony again and raise the issue although last time they just suggested a software repair which didn't really change anything. Like you said, hopefully the can release a software fix although, judging by their response to the pink spot issue I won't be holding my breath.
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They still won't admit there's an issue until they found a solution so, I hope the Find one, this is my first phone that does that...
There is same issue on my device(46 week). is software or hardware? Does anyone know?
Try turning off image enhancements like x-reality or super vivid, then view image again.
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Both in Superior Auto Mode
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infinitylook said:
Try turning off image enhancements like x-reality or super vivid, then view image again.
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I tried. but issue keep going.
Also, I took photo in same settings with other Xperia z3.. The red colours always looks more real than my xperia . and i transfer these image my xperia and looks same real.
Camera hardware is faulty i think but tech service says software and Sony will update it. But Sony no say.
Red to Pink issue
I am pretty amazed this one has not been reported by more users. The sonysupport in Sweden is not aware of the issue, and although I send in pictures as well as the actual Xperia Z3 phone - they will still not admit the problem.
here goes. This is most likely an de-bayer problem creating pictures from the RAW sensor. I note that i bright daylight the RED colours gets over exposed in the process - and produces a pink result. I shadows the result is better.
Also note that the preview of the actually camera , probably generated in a different way internally , show more accurate colours than the the photo itself.
This is a good hint to the developers where the problem is.
With Lollipop 5.0 the api:s for RAW is no available. Sony has decided so far to not make them available in the Xperia version of the 5.02 version. But if they did, then 3;rd party developers could control this de.process from the sensor and produce much better pictures.
So hear hear, Sony developers and product managers . you can fix this - If you do, then the Xperia is truly the king of droids
come on!!
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I tried. but issue keep going.
Also, I took photo in same settings with other Xperia z3.. The red colours always looks more real than my xperia . and i transfer these image my xperia and looks same real.
Camera hardware is faulty i think but tech service says software and Sony will update it. But Sony no say.
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I am pretty amazed this one has not been reported by more users.
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I have same issue as well. Picture finder shows nice red colors, but taken pictures are all pink. All image enhancements are off and camera in manual mode - it does not make noticeable improvement at all.
Its a disappointment, especially since phone's camera is reviewed as quite OK.
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Agreed. It's pretty awful, it's obviously not selecting the correct white balance mode. As you can see from the first pic below...it's ridiculously bad. The second is shot with Manual Mode and it a lot more acurate.
Yes it is better. I guess i'll have to leave the camera setting on Manual as much as possible and just make a quick WB change before closing the shutter. I'll get in touch with Sony again and raise the issue although last time they just suggested a software repair which didn't really change anything. Like you said, hopefully the can release a software fix although, judging by their response to the pink spot issue I won't be holding my breath.
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Hey. I'm also facing same issue. My Z3c isnt able to recognize Red color properly.
What exact setting you tried in manual mode to get your 2nd image right??
Same here. I have to set manual mode if I want to take precise pictures
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Hey. I'm also facing same issue. My Z3c isnt able to recognize Red color properly.
What exact setting you tried in manual mode to get your 2nd image right??
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Nowadays I usually go to manual mode and leave the white ballance set to auto. If the colour still looks off then I can adjust the white balance according to the conditions to get the right shot.
I pretty much never use Superior Auto mode for pictures now which is incredibly frustrating when you want to take a quick shot and you have to change the setting to manual. It's one of the few things that has annoyed me about the device. On some levels it's really good but on others it falls short. I want a device that can tsake great images in auto but that I can adjust and play with if I want.
A lot of new device coming out towards autumn. Am pretty resigned to the fact that i'm going to be trading in the Z3 for something else.
Got my Z3 a couple of days ago (wife as well) and when either of us take a picture in an indoor, low light situation the picture is always foggy looking. In fact, even in very low light if the flash goes off, the picture is foggy looking. Anyone else experience this or have any thoughts? Really irritating. Pictures are great looking if no flash though (on both phones).
Yep, same here and tried everything...this camera is why I bought it, and it sucks compared to my Lumia 920
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Got my Z3 a couple of days ago (wife as well) and when either of us take a picture in an indoor, low light situation the picture is always foggy looking. In fact, even in very low light if the flash goes off, the picture is foggy looking. Anyone else experience this or have any thoughts? Really irritating. Pictures are great looking if no flash though (on both phones).
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I haven't used flash yet but I read somewhere that manual mode reduces this fog effect. i'm guessing it's some sort of lens flare? Try playing with the different scene modes and settings.
Same issue with mine. Been working all week on it and cannot get a good picture inside
Same, swapped first one out only to find this has the same issue, thought i was the only one
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Got my Z3 a couple of days ago (wife as well) and when either of us take a picture in an indoor, low light situation the picture is always foggy looking. In fact, even in very low light if the flash goes off, the picture is foggy looking. Anyone else experience this or have any thoughts? Really irritating. Pictures are great looking if no flash though (on both phones).
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Need some examples, really. Are you using a case on your phone? Try without. Try a few different modes (auto, manual etc) and see if there's a pattern.
Manual mode and changing iso up seems to allow for better pics.
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Yes same problem already talked about in depth, try manual mode, keep the ISO as low as possible with the flash, in fact if the object is more than 5m away, then the flash will not really do much, turn it off and increase the ISO
I had the same Problem, and after testing if it was the case or the Glascover, because sometimes the
Pics were foggy and sometimes not.
Some of the Glas Cover makes Reflextions on to the Lens but the worse
are the Fingers on the left Side of the Phone, when you make pics in landscape.
The Finger on the left Top makes so many Reflections to the lens that the Imgages becomes
foggy.
When you make a Pic and hold the Phone in the middle, than all the Pics with Flash are good,
You can test it by yourself in Automodus or Manuell.
rambus
Same issue
Has anyone managed to find a workaround for this??
I'm having the same issue and not sure what to do.
Thanks,
Anyone else notice what seems like to be a screen burn in on their Galaxy S6 (non-edge). I was outside today in direct sunlight for the first time and I pulled up google chrome (white background) and I noticed dark gray lines as depicted by the red lines in the pictures. Just curious if anyone else has this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/phone-please-try-thispossible-screen-t3072949
I have found exactly the same issue on mine. But it's only noticeable in direct sunlight it seems. At present it isn't a deal breaker for me but it's certainly a bit odd. Surely it's a little early for screen burn in?
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I have found exactly the same issue on mine. But it's only noticeable in direct sunlight it seems. At present it isn't a deal breaker for me but it's certainly a bit odd. Surely it's a little early for screen burn in?
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it's not burn-in, it's seeing through the screen to the assembly
Same here, Vodafone spain. Galaxy s6 black
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it's not burn-in, it's seeing through the screen to the assembly
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+1.
It's not screen burn in. It's the metal chassis behind the screen which you are seeing., which is only visible in direct sunlight.
Ok but is that normal?I have the same issue and at the store i notice the same issue on one new-out of the box device.Should we replace our device or this is normal?
I started a thread to this issue yesterday. Because I didnt saw this one.
Just replaced my phone because some issues with the display, flash led and this problem.
Think my replacement will have it, too.
For now I cannot anwer me the question if it is suitable to accept this for a phone in this price segment. The summer is coming and the issue will be there on a lot of days.
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I started a thread to this issue yesterday. Because I didnt saw this one.
Just replaced my phone because some issues with the display, flash led and this problem.
Think my replacement will have it, too.
For now I cannot anwer me the question if it is suitable to accept this for a phone in this price segment. The summer is coming and the issue will be there on a lot of days.
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I think i will not settle for a phone at this price range and this stupid issue and i think that nobody should. I will just pick up Note 4 with Exynos if this issue is not resolved with the 3rd s6 device.
Me too.
On a teardown from ifixit you can exactly see the unit that creates these frame.
Thank you very much! I also experienced this on my Galaxy s6. I ordered a replacement and also noticed it.
Just to let you now guys.I tested 4 new s6 devices and all of them had this issue!!!This is a big thing and nobody is making the real fuzz abou it.So i picked up Note 4 with Exynos.Do not buy s6, wait for month of two just so they can resolve this.
I think it is a design problem and there will be no fix for it.
If that is the case, then ppl should make a big deal about it.I don not have this phone anymore but I would like to help if this issue continues.I will contact samsung via facebook and see what we can do.
I got my replacement yesterday and yes, the problem still exists. The phone is from Vietnam, 04/15/15.
The story goes on. After Amazon Germany stopped selling the black 64 GB edition I replaced my one against the white 64 GB. This one shows the frame on any background. Not only white. Only on very dark ones there is no see.
And I can see it under normal light conditions. Not only sunlight.
A very very very bad Display.
Why is it just this quiet about the issue? It's not less ugly like the flash LED or the wiggling home button issue.
My S6 (Germany; Mediamarkt) doesn't seem to have a a burn-in.
http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3982/wj6uc78e_jpg.htm
Try this in direct sunlight please with max brightness.
It is not a real burn in. It is a frame of a used component that Lays direct under the display.
Real screen burnin
We were at the Verizon store today and noticed that all the Edge phones had real screen burn in. One had the Verizon logo burnt into the screen that you could see clearly from within any app with a white background. We used chrome and a normal web page to show the employees of the store. The galaxy s6 egde had some sort of Verizon demo bar burnt into it. It seems to be a problem with the screens. I googled for it and found this thread. I am surprised this hasn't become a serious problem for Samsung yet.
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Anyone else notice what seems like to be a screen burn in on their Galaxy S6 (non-edge). I was outside today in direct sunlight for the first time and I pulled up google chrome (white background) and I noticed dark gray lines as depicted by the red lines in the pictures. Just curious if anyone else has this?
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Had a very bad screen burn in my S5 - i could actually see the title of the email app i have to use for work on a white screen without sunlight (title of the app is ALWAYS at the top when working in the app). Now had the S6 since it has been out and starting to see the same issue. Spoke with Samsung about this and they stated that the S4, S5, S6 and all Note devices are capable of getting screen burns with High Contrast imaging or lines. They said they could replace my screen but i would be without a device for nearly a month, and the carrier will not complete a warranty because the device still functions perfectly.
THANKS SAMSUNG!
Here in China, was about to buy the phone.
I have seen several reviews mentioned the lense flare issue.
wondering whether this is a software problem or a hardware issue. Will it be fixed sooner or later?
Appreciate your comments.
Seems likely to be hardware related. I have only seen it once or twice and it has to be in the perfect lighting arrangement to really see it. I think it is being blown way out of proportion, it isn't anywhere near as bad as the internet would have you believe.
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Seems likely to be hardware related. I have only seen it once or twice and it has to be in the perfect lighting arrangement to really see it. I think it is being blown way out of proportion, it isn't anywhere near as bad as the internet would have you believe.
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Thank you dude for the detailed info
bush911 said:
Here in China, was about to buy the phone.
I have seen several reviews mentioned the lense flare issue.
wondering whether this is a software problem or a hardware issue. Will it be fixed sooner or later?
Appreciate your comments.
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I've never seen it happen on my pixel and I take a lot of photos. Any camera will show flare if you're shooting towards the light... even my $4k DSLR..
bush911 said:
Here in China, was about to buy the phone.
I have seen several reviews mentioned the lense flare issue.
wondering whether this is a software problem or a hardware issue. Will it be fixed sooner or later?
Appreciate your comments.
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I've seen it often but it doesn't look too bad. I'll attach a picture where it's caused by the backlight of my computer screen
I can reproduce it in certain conditions. For example, I can reproduce the halo on my phone when the light source is facing the opposite direction of the camera and I angle the camera precisely the right away. Aside from that, I've never had it affect any photos unless I'm intentionally trying to get it do so to see what's causing it. I've never had it show up in any of my outdoor photos yet.
It is definitely blown way out of proportion by people on the internet, IMO. It doesn't really happen to me unless I'm shooting right at the sun or a bright light source (which is kind of a bad way to take photographs in general anyway).
I have received my blue Pixel yesterday and thought that Google possibly did something to fix it and didn't expect my unit to have this. An hour ago, I was trying the camera out and was in the kitchen. When the light source was on left from me, then halo appeared, tilting/moving the phone closer towards the left(to the light), then halo started to diminish and after 15-20 degrees it was no longer affecting the shot. The halo thing is easy to spot and user is just able to turn a little and have a perfectly nice shot. I am personally not concerned about this unless the issues would be very severe and would appear in multiple angles. I think the back glass panel could be the issue.
Well noted, thank you guys for your response. will try to buy one from goole, ship to USA, then transfer to China.
When i try to focus on an object with wide lens the following artifacts appear. Even when i save the picture the halo is still there. Has anyone got similar results or do i have a defective device?
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When i try to focus on an object with wide lens the following artifacts appear. Even when i save the picture the halo is still there. Has anyone got similar results or do i have a defective device?
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I just tried to replicate this with mine, but no "luck" - I don't see this effect...
But then I'm not in as bright surrounding as you seem to be is this effect always visible or only in bright lighting?
Just a thought may be that a lens protector (glass or plastic) could have such an effect....
I could only reproduce it on the beach scenery. Ill post a video to show you exactly how its reproduced
By the way no lens protector is installed.
Gif attached shows what my problem is.
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Gif attached shows what my problem is.
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Let's hope the woman in the GIF doesn't read and interprete that the way only women are able to interprete statements.
I have no idea about the cause - but I believe you still deserve an answer.
Questions: Where does the effect occur? Only in the viewfinder and/or in the finished picture? (I read your first post, still wish to make sure I got everything right.)
Does it happen with still photos or videos?
Does it also happen if you hold the phone horizontally (landscape)?
Which firmware version?
I tried to reproduce that fault although I had no ocean at hand - but never succeeded to achieve that effect.
Must be a software problem, maybe a firmware update solves it. Or a hard reset - but I don't like suggesting the typical manufacturer's helpdesk suggestion if they haven't got any clue but wish to get rid of the customer quickly.
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Let's hope the woman in the GIF doesn't read and interprete that the way only women are able to interprete statements.
I have no idea about the cause - but I believe you still deserve an answer.
Questions: Where does the effect occur? Only in the viewfinder and/or in the finished picture? (I read your first post, still wish to make sure I got everything right.)
Does it happen with still photos or videos?
Does it also happen if you hold the phone horizontally (landscape)?
Which firmware version?
I tried to reproduce that fault although I had no ocean at hand - but never succeeded to achieve that effect.
Must be a software problem, maybe a firmware update solves it. Or a hard reset - but I don't like suggesting the typical manufacturer's helpdesk suggestion if they haven't got any clue but wish to get rid of the customer quickly.
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Both viewfinder and finished picture. I could only reproduce it when the background was a beach only with wide lens. Ill try testing when the background is flat maybe in a field or something. I think thats the trigger with the halos. Didnt try it on video though. Firmware wise am on . 121.
And my woman should stay away from xda. For my sake
Hello once more!
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Both viewfinder and finished picture. I could only reproduce it when the background was a beach only with wide lens. Ill try testing when the background is flat maybe in a field or something. I think thats the trigger with the halos.
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Due to the lower color depth, your GIF shows "banding", larger areas of the same color/brightness. Interestingly, it's one of these "bands" with gets replaced by white.
And if this phenomenon only occurs with a beach scene, it might be small areas of extreme brightness (like sun reflections in the water) triggering a software fault.
At least that's my guess. And that's why I mentioned I had no ocean at hand for trying.
Nokia's N8 had a similar, but not identical problem: If there were tiny spots of extreme brightness in a scene, the software rendered white circles or halos around that spots. Much smaller and perfectly circular, also the circles were solid white, not "just" rings like in your photos.
Maybe it's a similar thing with the P40 Pro.
The good news: It's a software problem which can be solved.
Didnt try it on video though. Firmware wise am on . 121.
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Same with me. There's a lot of nuisances with the camera software, especially with the real bad, non-practical UI, but overall the P40 Pro really tops all of it's competition.
Let's just hope Huawei gets aware of the problems, soon.
And my woman should stay away from xda. For my sake
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There's no other living beings on earth being perfectly able to interprete nice words as bad words like women.
That's my understanding too. Ultra bright areas confuse the software. I reported it to their support team. Maybe there will be a fix. Am sure if more people will encounter it as soon as they go to a beach it will be reported and hopefully we get a fix. Wide lens on such scenery is a must anyways.
. 131 resolved this issue. No more artifacts