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I just noticed today a rectangular area on my lcd screen where it looks like oil on water. It's basically a rectangle w/ a half inch border of the "Normal" screen. I can see it from any angle as well as when the phone is turned off. The phone and the touch screen both appear to be working fine. The distortion will react to pressure on the distored part of the screen as well. I'm thinking some moisture got in my phone some how (although I can't for the life of me think when I could've gotten moisture in there). Is there an easy way to fix this or should I call up ATT support to see about sending it in to have them fix it? What's the general next step? I'll post a pic when I get home to my camera. I've had the phone since the first of the year and am currently using EnergyROM 2.0.
Thanks a ton,
Patrick
I haven't seen anything like this before but if it it was you say its probably moisture inside or even oil. Wait a little and see if it clears up, failing that give AT&T a call.
Holy Crap
Dude i have the same problem with mine sometimes, and i thought i was the only one!!
Its almost like the LCD screen is getting some burn-in. Even on a black screen you can see the shadow of an image, using touch flow 3d/2d its about half of the slider bar on the bottom of the screen. Did you also notice that the screen is flickering VERY slightly in the same area, but not on the rest of the screen? You have to try REALLY hard to see it. Almost like when you use a camcorder to see a CRT monitor's refresh rate. I had a feeling from the beginning that it was moisture causing this, because i do have the bad habit of taking my phone in the bathroom when I shower. My LID has turned pink because of the steam.
What makes me think it could be screen burn-in, is that I always keep my backlight as bright as possible, and once i see this start happening, i can turn my phone off for a few minutes, turn it back on and it works just fine with no image shadow.
I actually have been thinking about using my insurance to get a new phone because of this, and making sure i don't shower with the new one.
It's a known issue of the phone. I was able to get mine replaced, but I had it less than 30 days. You should be able to manage to get them to replace it if you make them look up known issues with the phone.
Sorry for the inactivity, I've been spending my days pulling Cat 5e in attics and haven't had much computer time at work / energy at home - I'm going to get in touch w/ ATT sometime this week and see about arranging a replacement, I'll post my results.
i have the same problem. near the corners i see very slight flickering as if the refreshrate can't handle the tf3d.
it most likely because of the themes. when using all of those non-original themes, it' shaving to load all the images, causing it to have very very slight lag. maybe?
it's rediculous, with the price of this phone, you'd expect higher technology for the screen.
Your digitizer is touching the LCD because too much pressure has been applied to it, probably in your pocket.
What you are seeing are Newton's rings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_rings
I think we're talking about two different problems here.
First, you have the rectangular area like the topic starter described and may indeed be what bubble said. However, they are not rings... its a true square (at least for me).
Second, you have the flickering issue. I have this myself sometime at the position of the menu bar. Opera seems to be the only app that triggers this for me though - then i get flickering Opera 'burn in' like effect. This will eventually disappear again after keeping the phone off for a few hours, then on with the screen off. This effect does survive soft-reset and such.
Newton's rings is the name of the observed optical phenomenon. It has nothing to do with it's shape.
I know that in this case it appears on a square section of the screen (I face the same issue and I already ordered a replacement screen).
Is there a solution to the flickering and screen burn problem? I didn't notice it until I had loaded a 6.5 rom and was using the light colored R&R theme. I could then see flickering in the bottom portion of the screen. Then I notice the screen burn of both soft keys.
It went away overnight with the phone off, but came back by the end of the day. It's really upsetting as I love this phone, but hate having something that isn't working right. Any suggestions?
I've had the same issue a couple of times although it wasn't nearly the entire screen. It was just a small blob in the very center of the screen. It happened because it was in my pocket. When it occurred initially it was summer (30-40 degrees celcius here in Perth) and would fix itself after about 5 minutes of being in my hot car (temperature hot, not awesome hot =D ). However (more recently - it's colder now) it stayed for half a day or so and only fixed itself after I sat it in front of the cars heating vents with the heater on for about 10 minutes (not too hot). I'm wondering if the digitiser separates from the LCD when heat is applied. It makes sense to me but I'm not sure I'd recommend anyone trying my solution ... especially if you've got the big square issue.
You also have to be aware that this phenomenon is only visible under artificial light.
That's why some people report it to disappear/reappear.
True ... but when the "phenomenon" disappears (i.e. as the lcd seperates from digitiser) it makes a clicking noise and the screen behind the blob flickers (like when you push on a normal LCD with your finger) indicating that the pressure of the digitiser pulling the screen upwards has been released. Once this has happened the blob has gone. It's not visible under ANY light.
If it happens again ... I'll get some footage.
I found another thread regarding the "Oil Spot" that comes and goes on the LCD that I'm experiencing if others are interested:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475294
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Hi guys, I have the solution for you! I see burn-ins on my screen and I was able to get rid of them with a simple video that switches fast the main colors (Red Green Blue). Here is the link to the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liMySLZkF5o
I have the video pulled from youtube as mp4, and 5 minutes of playing on full screen, the display got back to normal, clear and without any burn-ins.
If you need the mp4 vid, let me know so I can send it over (email)
Regards to All
Received my replacement transformer the other day and thought it was OK on initial inspection, in a darkened room.
But actually, when you pump the brightness up to full, looking at a black screen (downloaded a black jpeg to test it as in the galley app the software buttons fade out so you get a true picture) it is actually no better than the one I sent back.
So my question is, using that system - black jpeg, full brightness, is there anyone out there who has no light bleed, particularly around the bottom left hand corner?
Cos if there is, it looks like this baby is going back to Comet for a second replacement, and if everyone has it, then I guess I will have to assume its a manufacturing 'feature' and just live with it.
Cheers for your help folks.
Sent from my Transformer using...... fingers.
Glad there is somebody know knows how to test a LCD light bleed properly.
I have the exact same issue. Maybe its part of the design.
J
Check my post in the other light bleed thread. I'd be happy to explain more if you'd like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13478882&postcount=111
I did everything you said, and see no light bleed in mine. I just got mine today.
I did everything you said, and see no light bleed in mine. I just got mine today.
Has anyone noticed a problem with going from manual brightness to auto, and it not auto adjusting?
No light bleed here.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App
Zero light bleed for me as well.
at a very extreme angle i can see a little near the camera. doesn't bother me, i would have never noticed
markteacher said:
Received my replacement transformer the other day and thought it was OK on initial inspection, in a darkened room.
But actually, when you pump the brightness up to full, looking at a black screen (downloaded a black jpeg to test it as in the galley app the software buttons fade out so you get a true picture) it is actually no better than the one I sent back.
So my question is, using that system - black jpeg, full brightness, is there anyone out there who has no light bleed, particularly around the bottom left hand corner?
Cos if there is, it looks like this baby is going back to Comet for a second replacement, and if everyone has it, then I guess I will have to assume its a manufacturing 'feature' and just live with it.
Cheers for your help folks.
Sent from my Transformer using...... fingers.
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I mean... you went through all that to find a defect? I know that we all want the perfect device but how often will the light bleed actually affect us?
I think I also have light bleed but I had to tilt the damn thing to find it and it seemed perfectly fine before reading these posts.
Does it really bother you that much that you're even willing to go through the hassle of exchanging it?
I first noticed it when I booted the tablet with the lights out in the room. I don't have any issues in normal use and it doesn't bother me enough that I'd want to send it back.
I just got my 32GB. I didn't notice it during the daytime, but at night I do see a little towards the top. But not to the point where it bothers me.
Got a couple of small spots along the bottom that i could live with only noticeable if you have light off and brightness at full, one of the corners has quite bad bleed, can see it on darkish screens without even turning lights off or even down.
Considering whether to return it.
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I mean... you went through all that to find a defect? I know that we all want the perfect device but how often will the light bleed actually affect us?
I think I also have light bleed but I had to tilt the damn thing to find it and it seemed perfectly fine before reading these posts.
Does it really bother you that much that you're even willing to go through the hassle of exchanging it?
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'All that' is not really all that to be honest. I downloaded a black jpeg and looked at it whilst sat here watching the telly, took about 30 seconds in all to show up a significant level of light leaking in from the bottom corner.
If you have to tilt your unit to find any light then its not going to be a problem for you. On mine it casts a glow on the bottom corner when I am sat with it on my lap in a normal living room with the table lamp on.
For me there is nothing wrong with wanting a perfect device, I am pretty sure that's what I paid for. Had it not been perfect then Comet would have it marked as 'seconds, and would have charged me quite a bit less.
As it is, it arrived direct from the factory with this defect, and as I have said before, on a £100 cheapie off eBay I would probably put up with it, but not at 400 quid.
Add to this, unless Asus receives units back to their factory with these issues pointed out they will be unaware of the problem and have no incentive to tighten up their manufacturing process.
I don't know what is going on over in the US, but I do know they are far less accepting of poor service/goods than we are in the UK, and if these problems exist in units being shipped over there they will be flying back to Asus at a great rate of knots, and this is with the Us Transformer costing CONSIDERABLY less than it does over here.
If you have a good one, I am happy for you, and slightly envious of you. I wish I did.
On the blue boot screen or setting screen there is massive light bleeding on right and left side (about 2 inches wide). However, when there is an image on the screen it looks fine. Unfortunately I don't have a wireless connection at home so I haven't tried putting any movies or 'black' jpegs on the device for further testing; but will do so tomorrow. My hope is that when playing movies it looks fine and if so I won't worry about it. Screen has good fidelity; speakers seem decent and unit feels lighter than the acer/xoom. Also build doesn't seem that bad.
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So far only immediate reactions are: Why didn't amazon put something in the shipping box like bubble wrap and what the @!#)(* no charging light? Even my $10 cell phone has a charging light.
I asked Asus phone support. They said there should be NO light bleed. I said a couple of times that mine is very slight, from the lower left corner, and he repeated that there shouldn't be any at all and that I should get a replacement.
I'm requesting a replacement anyway as my compass is broken, hopefully I can get one into my local Comet store so I can see for myself first.
A picture, as they say, paints a thousand words.
(and just to rub salt in the wound, discovered the gap along the side of the screen mentioned in another thread! 'Hello, is that Comet? I have something I need to discuss.....')
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80pSCclf9Eg
Light bleed here as well
Just wanted to chime in and say I have it too. At first I didn't notice it because I had just got it.. but after a while I found my eye being drawn down to the edges where there was light bleeding through. Its an unwelcome distraction and this unite will no doubt be exchanged for another one.
doronster195 said:
I did everything you said, and see no light bleed in mine. I just got mine today.
Has anyone noticed a problem with going from manual brightness to auto, and it not auto adjusting?
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Auto adjusting works when you turn the screen off then back on.
i feel all of you. One time I bought a car and one of the tire pressures was off by the time I got home. I took the car back to the dealer several times til they got the tire pressures right on all four tires. Took a month to get it right. The nerve of these manufacturers.
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i feel all of you. One time I bought a car and one of the tire pressures was off by the time I got home. I took the car back to the dealer several times til they got the tire pressures right on all four tires. Took a month to get it right. The nerve of these manufacturers.
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No, this is more like buying a new car and your car doors or windows not shutting fully.
Anyone notice some issues with the display showing some ghosting/persistence of the previous image when switching to a display/app with a very gray color such as the Amazon Appstore app? Easiest way I can see is when I load up something like the Android market, let it sit for 5 or so seconds, then load up the Amazon Appstore (it helps to have them previously loaded so you can just switch between the two), you can see some lines and images left over from the Android Market in the grey areas in the Amazon Appstore. For me it's easiest to see under the 'My Apps' part as there is a lot of gray.
This seems to happen at all brightness levels but mostly when the unit is just first turned on. After using the unit for a few minutes the ghosting/persistence of previous images doesn't happen as easily. Once you notice this thing, it's hard to not notice it. I can even notice it in the small gray bars in the Pulse application, for instance. Seems rather annoying. I've had a couple of Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus's before this one and did not notice this issue, but it doesn't mean it wasn't there and I just missed it. Oddly this display seems better than my previous units in the fact that the color is more uniform, as the other ones had more yellowing towards the right side of the display (when in portrait mode) than this one. However, this ghosting/persistence issue is really bugging me.
I have a couple of Kindle Fire's and a Dell Streak 7 and a Lenovo Thinkpad tablet, and have had numerous other tablets, but have never noticed this before.
I've attached photos. You can see one is just of the Android Market. The 2nd is of me loading up the Amazon Appstore right after and you can see the ghost image of the Android Market in the gray areas.
Obviously this would not show up in a screenshot as it's a screen artifact, so I took pictures with my phone camera.
How long does it take an image to ghost the screen? How long does it take the ghosting to disappear?
For example, I was going to the Android Market app for only a few seconds. 5 or so seconds. When I then went to the Amazon Appstore app, it takes many many minutes for the ghosting to disappear.
It seems after using the device for 20 or so minutes straight, the ghosting doesn't happen. But if I put the tab down for 30 minutes and test again, it all happens again the same way.
It's pretty horrible looking. Not sure if it's just a bad one I got or if this is normal. Pretty sure this one is going back though. Sigh, I really like this tab.
i haven't really experienced this with my P6200 with DXKL3 firmware and even with my past firmwares
This is a P6210 R62 serial. UEKL1 firmware.
I just downgraded to UEKK3 (couldn't find anything older) and the problem is still there. Did a factory reset too of course.
Can anyone else test this and let me know what they see? I'm on the brink of my return policy and need to figure out if this is a defect or just a normal thing with these PLS screens. It seems to only be an issue with the color gray.
Neither of my P6210's displays exhibit any ghosting.
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Can anyone else test this and let me know what they see? I'm on the brink of my return policy and need to figure out if this is a defect or just a normal thing with these PLS screens. It seems to only be an issue with the color gray.
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Definitely do not have this problem with mine:
GT-P6210
S/N - R62BA3219Z
ROM - KL1
This seems to be possibly a problem with displays lately. People are calling it 'burn-in' but it's not the same as the old traditional CRT 'burn-in'. To me I could only really see it on a gray screen. If I went to the browser and opened a white screen, it wasn't there. But certain shades of gray made it very obvious.
If you search around it appears people are having issues with it most recently with the transformer prime. This appears to be another case (not as dramatic of a 'burn-in' as mine) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432388 and this guy mentions it too - http://androidforums.com/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime/481834-screen-burn.html
Either way, I did return the galaxy tab 7.0 plus. The problem was driving me nuts. I have a Kindle Fire that didn't have the problem, and I couldn't justify keeping a $400 device with tihs problem when the $200 one I was holding didn't have any problem like that.
I couldn't reproduce it on the galaxy tab in BB either, but the gray's on that screen appeared to be much darker overall. My guess is they're just using different screen batches or something. That's the problem with this stuff now a days, parts are sourced from all over made by different manufacturuers in different plants with different parts and so on. Too much variation.
So this is at least your third 7 Plus unit? What was the matter with each of the previous ones you purchased?
Also, where did you buy them from? And what part of the country? Might be your supplier who has defective bunches and I just want to be sure to avoid them.
I tried this multiple times and it never happened on mine. A P6210 with the latest firmware.
I've had my s3 since October & have had zero issues until a couple days ago all of the sudden there's now a noticeable purple/pink color saturation of the display that spans from the bottom left corner up to the middle of the screen. You can see it on most screens, it seems to get worse @ times but it also seems to get better its incredibly annoying & odd. Anyone experience this? What could it be? And can I make it go away? My phone is not modified @ all & is in perfect condition never dropped nothing.
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I've had my s3 since October & have had zero issues until a couple days ago all of the sudden there's now a noticeable purple/pink color saturation of the display that spans from the bottom left corner up to the middle of the screen. You can see it on most screens, it seems to get worse @ times but it also seems to get better its incredibly annoying & odd. Anyone experience this? What could it be? And can I make it go away? My phone is not modified @ all & is in perfect condition never dropped nothing.
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iv had something like that happen to me in my droid x a few years or so ago... just take it back in to get it replaced... bad screen,,,
Anyone else experience anything like this? I've just started noticing that there are faint lines all up and down the screen. There doesn't appear to be a reason they show up, and they don't always stick around. In fact, they seem to fade in and out.
Once you notice them you can't un-see them though. I doubt this is something that would come across in a screenshot, but I will try to take a photo with another phone and post it.
Well I finally have some pictures to show what I'm seeing. Hopefully I'm not the only one?
everything fine until now here
did you contact the xiaomi support ?
Check that it's not just colour banding in your wallpaper.
Absolutely not just my wallpaper. I notice it most on my keyboard, but the lines are up and down the entire display regardless of what is on the screen.
Since I bought the phone from an eBay reseller in the US, I highly doubt they'll consider my warranty valid.
Hi, yes, I have the exact same thing happening. It started like half an hour ago, I've been on a walk, with a headphone plugged in for 2 hours. When I got home, I noticed the stripes especially on colors that are not entirely white, like the notification shade pulled down on a white background. Now it starts to fade away and is barely noticeable. Did it go away on your device, or it still persists? Did you do anything about it?