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Ok, well I'm getting a new HTC Thunderbolt today (Android) and am selling my old HTC DROID Incredible to a friend who's coincidentally just dropped his old Eris into a pool! Anyway, my question is this: I've rooted my D.Inc. and have Cyanogenmod 7.2 on it. Would I/he need to unroot and go back to the stock ROM to use the phone on his own contract? Thanks, let me know.
I don't believe so.
But where did you get CM7.2? There isn't even a 7.1 yet lol.
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Thank you.
And you're right. I was messing the decimals up. I meant 7.0.2.1. It's on ROM Manager. lol, sorry for the confusion.
So I'll likely need to un-root?
I don't think you'll need to unroot, although I'm not 100% sure. I hope someone else can chime in with a more certain answer.
And its alright lol I was just like "wait a minute, beta? " lol
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Yeah, I'm getting the same semi-certain answers that it'll be fine from the guys on the cyanogenmod forum. I think I'll just take the leap of faith...I don't see why it would be a problem.
I know at one point there was a place on the VZW website to change your phone and you just manually typed in the ESN of the new phone and voila new phone activated.
But, I never did try that w/a rooted phone
chimpsnest said:
I know at one point there was a place on the VZW website to change your phone and you just manually typed in the ESN of the new phone and voila new phone activated.
But, I never did try that w/a rooted phone
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You don't happen to have a link for that, do you? I think my wife is gonna switch to my OG Droid, now that I have the T-Bolt, but I don't want to have to go back to stock from CM7 to take it back to the VZW store.
You should be able to call in to verizon and change it as well.
Long as you don't have an actual rep look at the phone, shouldn't be an issue.
Just dial *228 from it choose option 1 .. no laws against root just voids warranty and if you use wireless tether you breach terms
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No you do not need to unroot. Just be careful if you bring it in to Verizon while rooted. I did, but I had my buddy switch my old phone to another family member and activate the new one so I really didn't care.
dirtyfingers said:
No you do not need to unroot. Just be careful if you bring it in to Verizon while rooted. I did, but I had my buddy switch my old phone to another family member and activate the new one so I really didn't care.
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This is correct, when I got my TB I gave my wife my rooted OG Droid running CM7 and it activated for her just fine. I've also showed off my OG Droid to the reps at my VZW store all the time. Most of them were rocking rooted phones anyway, they just don't like it when you bring it in and try to lie about it being rooted when something goes wrong.
There's a link when he logs in to verizonwireless.com to activate new device. Just type in the ESN and choose a plan. I sold my fascinate running one of adrynalyne's roms and activated fit or my buddy from my thunderbolt that way. No problems at all.
Yeah, it seems to be that everyone agrees it'll work. I've committed to do it. When it's done and if it works I'll post it here for possible info purposes.
I activate them all the time. In most cases you can just dial *228 option 3 and follow the prompts to activate any Verizon phone anywhere. I work for a Verizon retailer.
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I agree with most everyone but using the website never seems to work. And if the Verizon framework has been removed, good luck getting them to update it.
My suggestion would be to download a normalish Rom/stock and switch it over with him. It's got to be the fastest way. Good luck!
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There will be no issues activating the phone, you do not have to unroot. Verizon cannot stop you from rooting, you just technically lose your warranty!
fillyo said:
There will be no issues activating the phone, you do not have to unroot. Verizon cannot stop you from rooting, you just technically lose your warranty!
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lies, their contract says that they can end your contract for using tampered with phones.
So no they can't stop you, but they can end your contract and force you to pay the cancellation fee, refuse to activate the phone, etc if you walk in and happen to talk to the wrong person.
doesn't mean they will, but they can.
I hadn't bricked. Just A question. If I brick my phone with gb and I don't have the insurance, they won't replace it right?
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Depends on how you bricked it. Technically software updates still would allow warranty repair (as far as I'm aware). But there are rooters who start rooting without really knowing what they are doing and brick their phones. Obviously when they go in asking for a new phone Verizon has no proof to what happened and usually honors that warranty. I could never do this in my right mind. But if I bricked my device through an update that wasn't my fault (say the recent Thunderbolt GB bricks), I'd collect warranty. There is no way for them to prove that you were rooting so they usually honor it.
My guess is no, but its worth a shot.
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Depends on how you bricked it. Technically software updates still would allow warranty repair (as far as I'm aware). But there are rooters who start rooting without really knowing what they are doing and brick their phones. Obviously when they go in asking for a new phone Verizon has no proof to what happened and usually honors that warranty. I could never do this in my right mind. But if I bricked my device through an update that wasn't my fault (say the recent Thunderbolt GB bricks), I'd collect warranty. There is no way for them to prove that you were rooting so they usually honor it.
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If you flash something leaked/unauthorized its not covered. If an official ota (once it's pushed) bricks you, then it's covered. Keep in mind if you trick somebody @ Verizon and get them to replace it, they may not know the truth but HTC will once its sent to them. These things hurt the root community in the long run.
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They will cover it. I've sent back phones still rooted rom'd evrrythig. They don't care!
They do not take the time to check what your running they just wipe the phone right away. Myself and several others have sent back phones without spending the time to put back the stock rom. Just go for it!!!!
I would just get insurance if your rooted. It seems there is no rhyme or reason when or if the phone will brick.
If you run into a particularly stubborn rep who keeps pressuring you for answers, or specifically asking if you have installed anything on it, just keep shrugging your shoulders as if you have no clue. Be natural about it, and just say it started doing this on its own out of the blue. Because they obviously cant tell if you did anything they'll have no choice but to give you another.
I dont think HTC will mind getting back a bricked phone from rooting, because they know 90% of the reason you bought the HTC in the first place was because it has a strong rooting community. They'd rather keep people interested in their phones than the occasional brick they have to replace, which they will just use for parts or whatever anyway.
mcmillanje said:
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If you flash something leaked/unauthorized its not covered. If an official ota (once it's pushed) bricks you, then it's covered. Keep in mind if you trick somebody @ Verizon and get them to replace it, they may not know the truth but HTC will once its sent to them. These things hurt the root community in the long run.
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This is the right answer. If you bricked it via your own doing (read hacking and screw something up or it bricks from an experimental radio that was leaked) and return it as defective, that's kinda like opening up a can of Coke at the grocery store, drinking it, and then sitting it on a shelf and not buying it. Nobody will probably see you and you probably won't get caught. But it's wrong.
If an OTA from Verizon bricked it, then return it.
But before you resort to either of the above answers, talk to some people here (or in IRC) first. You can probably fix it and probably won't need to return it.
My Droid X was covered when the Gingerbread OTA bricked it, but I couldn't have had it covered if I rooted it and was installing a custom ROM.
You will not able get replacement without insurance and you will end up pay full amount cost of TB for the replacement. sucks
chrootz said:
You will not able get replacement without insurance and you will end up pay full amount cost of TB for the replacement. sucks
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Haha. I'm laughing. Not true.
thx guys
They probably wouldn't know.
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Haha. I'm laughing. Not true.
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They have a new policy now, if you send back a phone that would not have been covered under warranty, the tech at the warehouse will take pictures and email them to you as proof.
They will then proceed to charge you up to $300 on your bill. Non-negotiable, non-refundable.
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mcmillanje said:
They have a new policy now, if you send back a phone that would not have been covered under warranty, the tech at the warehouse will take pictures and email them to you as proof.
They will then proceed to charge you up to $300 on your bill. Non-negotiable, non-refundable.
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I sent a phone in due to random reboots. Show me how they would know the difference if unrooted. /sarcasm
People just unroot your phone before taking it anywhere or sending it anywhere.
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mcmillanje said:
They have a new policy now, if you send back a phone that would not have been covered under warranty, the tech at the warehouse will take pictures and email them to you as proof.
They will then proceed to charge you up to $300 on your bill. Non-negotiable, non-refundable.
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And now I'm laughing even harder! My chest hurts. I think yo guys gave me a heartattack.
Jaxidian said:
This is the right answer. If you bricked it via your own doing (read hacking and screw something up or it bricks from an experimental radio that was leaked) and return it as defective, that's kinda like opening up a can of Coke at the grocery store, drinking it, and then sitting it on a shelf and not buying it. Nobody will probably see you and you probably won't get caught. But it's wrong.
If an OTA from Verizon bricked it, then return it.
But before you resort to either of the above answers, talk to some people here (or in IRC) first. You can probably fix it and probably won't need to return it.
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I couldn't agree with you more. Too many people abusing the root process. You chose to root your phone. You knew what the consequences could be. But YOU decide to return it for warranty when you screwed it up? *sigh*
This is why manufacturers have to modify their return policies to something rediculous.
Good luck.
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Haha. I'm laughing. Not true.
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I'm just wondering has anybody returned/exchanged a Skyrocket to AT&T with a custom flash counter YES?
I'm having issues with my GPS locking in place and I think my phone might be defective. Unfortunately I didn't realize this until i flashed a few custom ROMs. And since the USB jig doesn't clear the flash counter anymore... i'm not sure what to do.
I'm thinking of just calling AT&T and telling them my GPS is having issues, but i'm just curious if they are going to check the flash counter and void my warranty claim.
Anyone have any experience with this?
Well I did technically speaking but it was hard brick so it didn't matter at all. haha
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I'm just wondering has anybody returned/exchanged a Skyrocket to AT&T with a custom flash counter YES?
I'm having issues with my GPS locking in place and I think my phone might be defective. Unfortunately I didn't realize this until i flashed a few custom ROMs. And since the USB jig doesn't clear the flash counter anymore... i'm not sure what to do.
I'm thinking of just calling AT&T and telling them my GPS is having issues, but i'm just curious if they are going to check the flash counter and void my warranty claim.
Anyone have any experience with this?
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Well I did technically speaking but it was hard brick so it didn't matter at all. haha
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And they replaced the unit without any issues?
Do you know what hard brick means? And yes they never asked me a signal question.
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And they replaced the unit without any issues?
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appdroid said:
Do you know what hard brick means? And yes they never asked me a signal question.
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Yup, means that it was totally hosed.
I guess the AT&T reps don't really look into the phone too much, they just send it back to Sammy? Well that's promising, i'll be sending mine back then.
Did you go into the store or just have them mail a new one?
Corporate location aka in store.
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Yup, means that it was totally hosed.
I guess the AT&T reps don't really look into the phone too much, they just send it back to Sammy? Well that's promising, i'll be sending mine back then.
Did you go into the store or just have them mail a new one?
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As a former AT&T employee, they honestly don't give a ****, and aren't knowledgeable enough to know what to look for really. If it looks stock, witht he stock boot animation and no SuperUser icon, you're competely fine.
98% of the employees (+/- 5% for pulling that number our of my ass) have no knownledge af the devices outside of what AT&T trains them, and even then it's not much. Last year when the Inspire and Atrix came out, I had to stop my coworkers from telling people they were LTE phones, and even after that they were telling them it was "LTE upgradable as soon as LTE comes to the area" due to sheer ignorance. They just don't give a ****.
I have returned 2 phones with CWM installed. I have also returned 1 skyrocket with stock but the flash counter showed multiple flashes. No issues.
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I'm just wondering has anybody returned/exchanged a Skyrocket to AT&T with a custom flash counter YES?
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I walked into the store where I purchased mine just this afternoon and swapped it because it has been having all kinds of issues that I was tired of dealing with.
1) Battery life was poor
2) wifi reception was poor
3) battery indicator stuck at 100% until it would drop drastically later, once it even stayed at 100% until it dropped to "your battery is severely drained, shutting down"
After the young lady did the factory wipe/reset she noticed it was running ICS and lectured me that she could get in trouble, but then let me leave with the new phone.
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I walked into the store where I purchased mine just this afternoon and swapped it because it has been having all kinds of issues that I was tired of dealing with.
1) Battery life was poor
2) wifi reception was poor
3) battery indicator stuck at 100% until it would drop drastically later, once it even stayed at 100% until it dropped to "your battery is severely drained, shutting down"
After the young lady did the factory wipe/reset she noticed it was running ICS and lectured me that she could get in trouble, but then let me leave with the new phone.
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How is it running ICS?
We don't have any ICS roms...
And the best way to return a device with a counter...
Smash it first.
He meant a rom called Ice cream Sandwich. And smashing phone before return is not the best way. You guys need to get older and just use usb jig. If you don't have than Odin it back to stock. this way it will be fine.
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How is it running ICS?
We don't have any ICS roms...
And the best way to return a device with a counter...
Smash it first.
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The USB jig doesn't reset the counter on this phone, it only helps get the device into download mode.. I flashed Odin with stock TAR and it still says custom
I spoke with the AT&T returns folks yesterday because I'm within the 30 day window and my battery life was sucking. I asked the guy if there would be any issues with the return since I rooted the phone (I "rooted to test ways to improve the battery life" )
He said no, no problem with it being rooted. For the record, I flashed this Rom and my battery life has improved drastically so far
I have a question about Verizon accepting phones that are not working well.. I rooted my phone and flashed a rom and now I cannot flash back to original stock. Needless to say, this HTC root is difficult compared to Motorola. So my question is would it be possible to call Verizon and get a replacement phone? No questions asked..
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Not working well, or not working at all? If its working but having problems, Verizon is going to immediately blame it on any modifications you made while simultaneously telling you your warranty is shot.
On the other hand, if the phone is straight up dead, I can't imagine how they would ever know.
Seriously NO!!!!!!
First of all you rooted your phone which screwed up your warranty and then you Install a custom rom!!.
When you'll go to Verizon center and show them your phone they will strictly say that your warranty is dead and "how the hell did you dare to come to us and ask for a replacement after you flash a custom rom and experiment with your phone"..
LOL I knew I would getting some responses that was similar to "you're **** out of luck!" Never hurts to ask.. And I wasn't going to go to a Verizon store, I was going to call a tech and tell them it was not working right. What would they do once I send the phone back and they discovered it's rooted? Not like they will say I owe them money. Lol
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LOL I knew I would getting some responses that was similar to "you're **** out of luck!" Never hurts to ask.. And I wasn't going to go to a Verizon store, I was going to call a tech and tell them it was not working right. What would they do once I send the phone back and they discovered it's rooted? Not like they will say I owe them money. Lol
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If they send you a new one and you send the old one back the min they see it was voided they will charge you the full retail price of the phone they sent you.
I'am putting this thread out as a warning to all Atrix 2 users. Currently it seems that there is something wrong with the fkz patch to 2.3.5 from ICS. About 5 or 6 people have encountered this and after trying to flash through RSD Lite they have HARD BRICKED their phones. According to Jim, there might be something in the ROM (similar to the HK leaks) that causes a hard brick during an RSD flash. So this means we currently have no way to get back to stock. Jim and the other devs are looking into it.
SO UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE I STRONGLY ADVICE, FOR NOW, NOT TO DO ANYTHING THAT COULD BRICK YOUR PHONE, AS YOUR PHONE WILL STAY BRICKED.
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I'am putting this thread out as a warning to all Atrix 2 users. Currently it seems that there is something wrong with the fkz patch to 2.3.5 from ICS. About 5 or 6 people have encountered this and after trying to flash through RSD Lite they have HARD BRICKED their phones. According to Jim, there might be something in the ROM (similar to the HK leaks) that causes a hard brick during an RSD flash. So this means we currently have no way to get back to stock. Jim and the other devs are looking into it.
SO UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE I STRONGLY ADVICE, FOR NOW, NOT TO DO ANYTHING THAT COULD BRICK YOUR PHONE, AS YOUR PHONE WILL STAY BRICKED.
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You can get an advanced exchange by calling AT&T at the following number, if you have bricked using RSDlite:
1-800-801-1101
As usual, play dumb.
I don't plan I going back anyway...this leak blew everything out the water. I'll stick around on rooted stock till yall get this ball rolling. I have faith! Hahaha!
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Good warning though. Thanks man!
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DX2Trip said:
I don't plan I going back anyway...this leak blew everything out the water. I'll stick around on rooted stock till yall get this ball rolling. I have faith! Hahaha!
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You also cant get more leaks since cheesecake is not working with ICS at this moment... and you are also off the OTA train as well, since this is a leak, and the real ICS OTA will most likely have some more checks for system apps signatures.
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You can get an advanced exchange by calling AT&T at the following number, if you have bricked using RSDlite:
1-800-801-1101
As usual, play dumb.
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Will they figure out later what we did to the phone and decline the warranty? I am kind of worried.
I was thinking about walking in an att store for an exchange. Should I call instead?
qtqt710 said:
Will they figure out later what we did to the phone and decline the warranty? I am kind of worried.
I was thinking about walking in an att store for an exchange. Should I call instead?
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as long as it is totally bricked, you should be ok. I guess you could just shock the hell out of the motherboard, but I wouldn't, even though it would be fun. Car battery anyone?
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Will they figure out later what we did to the phone and decline the warranty? I am kind of worried.
I was thinking about walking in an att store for an exchange. Should I call instead?
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No they will not figure it out, and if they do you will already have your replacement. I have had 4 replacements now, due to my hacking this phone, and I have had an advenced replacement each time and never had an issue or been questioned once.
If you walk into a store, they will call this same number while you are there, and you will still have to be sent a replacement through 3 day delivery. Have a backup phone, even if you go grab a 10 dollar track phone and put your att sim in it.
Well this sucks. Thanks for the heads up on this. I was going to go back to 2.3.5 today because of the overclocking in this leak. The battery drain with it is a issue for me. I'll wait till a fix is available. Thanks again.
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jimbridgman said:
You also cant get more leaks since cheesecake is not working with ICS at this moment... and you are also off the OTA train as well, since this is a leak, and the real ICS OTA will most likely have some more checks for system apps signatures.
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exactly, the problem is, once you go to the ics leak, you may never be able to get the real ics update. it may be possible, since you could keep this boot image and just flash the system, but there is no guarantee that would work and may even cause hard brick.
Keep in mind, this risk of hard brick is simply becaus moto decided to lock us down even more. they made an rsd flash not really possible. I think this same thing happend to the OG atrix people.
For some reason, Jim has had no problem getting back, but the rest of us have not been able to as of yet. we are looking into why that is and trying to find a way around it.
I do believe we will be able to find a way to get users now on ICS back to GB and back on the ota track, but even if not we may be able to at least make it so that they can unbrick from ics by flashing an ICS fxz like thing.
For those that have already bricked, there may not be a way back, but you can get an exchange.
For better or worse, one or two of our devs (not to be named here) hard bricked. while that means they will not be able to do much until they get replacements, they should be the best at figuring out how to get out of it if possible.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO TAKE FROM THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS THAT YOU CANNOT GET MAD AT THE DEVS FOR NOT WARNING YOU. NONE OF US SAW THIS COMING. THERE IS AN INHERENT RISK IN MODDING YOUR PHONE, AND THIS IS EXACTLY IT.
Good warning! This will save a lot of ppl.
Thanks for the heads up, will wait for further info. Really enjoying this leak so far though.
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I bought my Atrix 2 in the USA and I live in Aruba, is there anything I can do to use warranty or something? Mine is not an AT&T phone.
I don't seem to find an MB865 motherboard online for sale.
Fowitho from
So about this "replacement" under warranty. What is the warranty on our phones? And if we do end up bricking, we just take it to ATT retail store? What if we bought it from ebay?
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I bought my Atrix 2 in the USA and I live in Aruba, is there anything I can do to use warranty or something? Mine is not an AT&T phone.
I don't seem to find an MB865 motherboard online for sale.
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call or chat with moto, see if they will sell you one directly, but that might be expensive
Would this hard brick have to do with the generation of mb865? Because it work for Jim right? Maybe it fails with some models. There must be a constant in the hardbrick, maybe the affected members can give us some background info of their phones.
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Would this hard brick have to do with the generation of mb865? Because it work for Jim right? Maybe it fails with some models. There must be a constant in the hardbrick, maybe the affected members can give us some background info of their phones.
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So, just curious... are we screwed when the official ICS update comes out? I mean, I installed this on my man's phone last night and it is working great but I'm sure the final one is gonna have tons of fixes for various things... Wouldn't we be able to install bootstrap and flash a new official custom ICS rom when they come out? I've already rooted his phone on ICS. I'm just worried he's gonna end up mad with me now. Lol!
I'm confused as to why this would work fine for some people and hard brick others? The Fxz worked totally fine for me!
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So, just curious... are we screwed when the official ICS update comes out? I mean, I installed this on my man's phone last night and it is working great but I'm sure the final one is gonna have tons of fixes for various things... Wouldn't we be able to install bootstrap and flash a new official custom ICS rom when they come out? I've already rooted his phone on ICS. I'm just worried he's gonna end up mad with me now. Lol!
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I think when the devs find a way to get back to 2.3.5, 2.36 then we'll be able to take the OTA. No cheesecake support and cannot check for system updates. I'm sure these devs will figure it out for us...They're smart.
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I'm confused as to why this would work fine for some people and hard brick others? The Fxz worked totally fine for me!
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I think they're talkin about goin back to 2.3.5 or 2.3.6 from the ICS leak. Many have bricked I guess in doing so. So beware lol. If you on the leak, stay put.
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