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I searched the threads on this but can't find specifically what I'm looking for.
I purchased the Z Pad dock for my G Tab and just got it in and hooked it up. It will charge through it and the USB works, haven't tested the RJ-45 connection but I connected it to my TV and it will not display anything. My TV has a DVI connector and I have a HDMI to DVI adapter and I know the adapter works because it works with other devices.
Also, HDMI and DVI video are exactly the same digitally as far as signal go so my question is, has anyone else used an adapter to connect it to the DVI port and if so did it work or not?
Just wondering if it needs to be specifically connected to a HDMI port to receive other feedback from the port to the device to turn it on. My Droid X will connect with this method.
Also, When I got the dock it had a rattle, so I cracked it open and the counter weight was loose as the mounting tabs were busted off. It was banging on the ribbon cable to the dock connector. I disassembled it and examined the cable and saw no damage and since all of the other features work I figured it might be the connection method but want to make sure. I secured the weight and closed it back up.
I also ordered a HDMI to composite RCA converter but haven't received it yet as I want to be able to connect it to any available display so I am not able to try that yet.
In short, has anyone else tried to connect it using a HDMI to DVI connector and not have display output? P.S. I did have the charger connected to power the internal dock board as it is not just a passthrough.
Just want to know before I attempt to send this back as a defect or hunt down other methods of connectivity.
Thanks in advance,
Brian
I have found that the hdmi out wont work unless the power supply is connected! so basically make sure the tablet is charging when you want the HDMI to work! Hope this helps!
Yes, I know that and said I had it plugged in. Thanks. Just wondering if someone else had trouble using a HDMI to DVI connector with the G Tab.
Brian Oshman said:
Yes, I know that and said I had it plugged in. Thanks. Just wondering if someone else had trouble using a HDMI to DVI connector with the G Tab.
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Brian, Not sure how much it helps but I have a Ztab and it is working fine going HDMI --> HDMI on my TV. Are you having problems with a HDMI --> DVI connector? If you haven't already tried it, you could try rebooting the tablet with it in the dock. I've found that helps with mine sometimes.
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well Brian I can tell you that Hdmi to dvi Works well.
I have the same dock, and i use it at work all the time via dvi adapter.
I assume your dock still works not using the adapter?
I plugged mine into my TV and it showed right up, but of course, I am using HDMI to HDMI. The only thing I can think of that might be a problem is you'd lose sound in the process, unless its smart enough to know the sound isn't connected via HDMI and keeps it coming out the speakers.
I did try to reboot it and it did not show up. Thanks for posting that it did work with the DVI adapter as that is how I have it set up. I know the adapter works as I use it with my Droid X and it works with that.
I will play around with it some more and wait until the coposite converter I ordered comes in as that is HDMI in to Composite out and see if that works. If not then I will send it back as a defect. I bet the counter wieght being broken loose inside did something to the ribbon cable.
Anyone use a HDMI to composit/RCA hookup yet? Mine is on order and am hoping I can use it on my older 4:3 40 inch Hitachi.
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well Brian I can tell you that Hdmi to dvi Works well.
I have the same dock, and i use it at work all the time via dvi adapter.
I assume your dock still works not using the adapter?
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Do you use it to display text? I find the quality from my Zpad, using the dock, to be pretty average for text. Did you change any settings?
Cheers, Mal.
Hi !
I want to use an external screen with my TF. I spotted some stuff on ebay I think might work, but I'm not totally sure. Since shipping will take 3 weeks at least, I'd like to be 100% sure it will be the right one for the TF.
My screen doesn't have hdmi, it's a VGA / DVI screen, so I was thinking of buying an hdmi to DVI cable, and an Hdmi to mini hdmi adapter to plug it into the TF. Will this work ? Or is there something like the stupid USB port that will accept only the Asus usb adapter to be able to communicate with it ? (I'm pretty pissed of with that one, since I can't find it cheap in my country, and the only websites I found in the US willing to ship to Switzerland quoted me shipping a 200$)
That the stuff I was planning on buying :
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...eName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
and
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...eName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
What do you think ? Might work ?
Thanks !
i've done this exact thing recently.. it works well.. I sat one of my monitors next to my bed and streamed some tv.
Though when i got the mini-hdmi to hdmi adapter.. it came with a pretty nice screen protector, too.
TL;DR: yes it will work.
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Thanks ! I'll do that, then ! For my part, it's to view pdfs (like Photoshop magazines) on a bigger screen while having the ability to flip through the pages. I already have two screens on the computer, can't put a third one without changing the graphic card, so I thought putting it on the TF would be a nice solution
that's a pretty good idea! its nice for watching shows in bed... or ircing with a bluetooth keyboard, too. ;D
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So, some news about my oh so great idea...
I finally received both the dvi - hdmi cable and the hdmi - mini hdmi adapter. I was very excited, plugged it in the screen and in the TF, and... "check cable signal". Yep. I tried finding stuff on the internet, nothing. Then my screen wouldn't work anymore altogether, I was a bit panicked. But yeah, as I like to live dangerously, I plugged it in my other screen... nothing, "check cable signal". (and then the screen wouldn't work anymore either and it took half an hour to get it back on the PC after switching cables, going VGA mode, playing with graphic card settings...)
I thought, maybe the TF isn't sending the signal properly, let's try the camera (Nex from Sony, with hdmi). Same thing, "check cable signal".
So now, my question... Is it possible both my screens are too old to be able to get hdmi signal ? (seems weird, but why not, they are not HD and don't have any hdmi entry) Or is the most probable scenario that my cable isn't working properly ? Or can it be the hdmi - mini hdmi adapter ? I only have my TF and my Nex with hdmi outputs, and they are mini hdmi, I have no other gear I can try with.
What do you think ? Screen is too old or cable is faulty ?
Are your monitors HDCP?
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No idea... How do I check that ? (but I read from a guy who put the TF on external monitor by using an hdmi - vga cable, surely it was not an hdcp screen)
I believe you should be fine. If the monitor/tv supports DVI (Digital Video Interface) then you will be fine with an HDMI to DVI adapter as HDMI is also a digital video signal. Now if it was HDMI to VGA (analog video) then you would need a converter of some type.
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I had the same problem, and it appears that my monitor does not handle the tf101 resolution through dvi (1280x960).
And there is actually no way to lower the tf101 output resolution through hdmi, afaik.
So check on the screen's manual the max resolution your monitors could handle through dvi (be careful,
it might be different than from vga).
my screen is in 1650x1050, or something like that. The other one should be at least a 1280x960. So it might be that the cable is not working properly ? How can I know if the problem is with the cable and not with the hdmi mini hdmi converter ? What do you think is more likely ?
Depends on the brand of cable and adapter. Usually the HDMI to mini HDMI adapter doesn't break, as it's just a block of plastic (in my case at least)
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Ok, I'll probably go and buy a new cable tomorrow. But I'm thinking about something : I figured the hdmi - mini hdmi adapter + cable puts a strain on the hdmi slot in the TF, so I'm wondering if it might be better to buy an hdmi mini hdmi cable, and an hdmi dvi adapter instead. The strain would be put on the external screen, but that's ok since the dvi is screwed to the screen.
Your opinion ?
I tried exactly what you are doing a few Weeks back, after assuming it would work and trying many combinations of wires I finally searched and found zero confirmed reports that you can use a dvi to hdmi cable for video output.
What I found works is going with a dvi to vga converter, its more expensive but looks like the only way without a straight hdmi to hdmi connection. Asus actually makes a converter for this purpose, HP also has one... I think they are both in the $40-50 range. I don't have links but just google Asus or HP hdmi to VGA converter
Good luck
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Thanks for that ! That way I won't have to buy another cable and have it not work. But, big question... why on earth are there hdmi to dvi cables if there is no way to convert video signal from hdmi to dvi ??? What use are these cables ?
BTW, I have a DVI to VGA converter, do you think I should try and stick it on my hdmi dvi cable ? (the thing is lying around, if I can get some use for it, I might as well try)
The Asus thing seems a great idea and I will probably end up buying it.
One thing I don't understand though... Why mini hdmi to VGA ??? Why not mini hdmi to DVI, if that needs a converter anyway, better make it dvi, no ? What about the resolution ? I don't want to get a stupid resolution on my screen because of problems with VGA (and I'm lucky I've still got a screen with VGA and DVI...).
Actually, what about a cable like this one ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...akeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en
I would be pissed of if I have to pay $50 for asus adapter if I can get one for 8$ on ebay...
Never mind, after a quick search on the internet, some people tried and it doesn't work...
But actually, I HAVE to ask. Why doesn't it work ? What is the problem ? hdmi is digital, dvi is digital... WHY ???
(I haven't ordered my adapter from asus yet, still looking for a cheaper solution.)
Edit again : what I saw that doesn't work was the hdmi to VGA cable, I couldn't find anything about hdmi to dvi... I might go to the shop tomorrow with the TF and ask if I can try a cable there...
Mini hdmi to hdmi to hdmi-dvi converter works. I've tested this configuration myself.
For the vga, you need a converter, like the asus hdmi-vga one.
Just check the xda forum, searching with hdmi dvi keywords.
You'll have the answers to your question by digging a little more.
My lg monitor works fine with mini hdmi to hdmi to dvi. The ui is in 720p on the screen but if you play 1080p HW accelerated video the resolution changes as well. Wanna see a picture of proof? ;-)
I also have the converter and this works also fine. Have a look at the thread in the Accessoires forum.
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Alexane_A said:
Thanks for that ! That way I won't have to buy another cable and have it not work. But, big question... why on earth are there hdmi to dvi cables if there is no way to convert video signal from hdmi to dvi ??? What use are these cables ?
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Firstly, the video part of HDMI is electrically compatible with DVI, that is, they are the same thing just over different wires in a different connector.
However
TFT monitors _may_ not sync down to the specific TV-based refresh rates that HDMI outputs often use. Unless your monitor advertises that it will do the TV resolutions/refresh rates like 1080p/720p etc then its unlikely the TF1010 will display on them. The video output of the TF101 is 720p scaled up to a 1080p signal can your monitors do 1080p?
I haven't the slightest clue... One is quite old, a samsung 2232BW (but that's my main display, so I won't use it with my TF) and the other one is about 1 year old, an HP crap given with a cheap computer...
I might as well buy the cable. Other than that, if my monitor can't handle the 1080p, would it work with the asus hdmi to vga converter ?
(BTW, the prices in the shop are totaly crazy. I went today and saw that the hdmi to dvi cables were about $90, and I found one on ebay, $7 shipping included, gold plated, 3 years warranty)
My friend has a USB internet stick which gives her internet access in remote areas.
We already have 40 pin usb to male usb with the tf700t.
Could I attach that male usb end to a female usb connection then to a male internet usb stick?
cheers.
I think that the USB stick requires software that might be not designed to run on the Android OS. Even if you can get the tab and the stick communicating, there's really very little likelihood they will work together. Many USB sticks have their own software in addition to the drivers needed for actually talking with the OS. Until it says "For Android" on the USB Stick's box, I think it's a no-go.
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I think that the USB stick requires software that might be not designed to run on the Android OS. Even if you can get the tab and the stick communicating, there's really very little likelihood they will work together. Many USB sticks have their own software in addition to the drivers needed for actually talking with the OS. Until it says "For Android" on the USB Stick's box, I think it's a no-go.
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Thanks Alienedd.
Syn010 said:
Thanks Alienedd.
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Check out the a500 forums. I dont remember specifics, but there are usb data sticks there that will work. This was one of the main tablets that had a build in USB host port.
phoenixbennu said:
Check out the a500 forums. I dont remember specifics, but there are usb data sticks there that will work. This was one of the main tablets that had a build in USB host port.
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Good call! Maybe try this thread?
While this does not address the use of a internet connection USB thumb drive it will address the topic of "USB on tablet possible without keyboard dock."
There is a Asus addon that plugs into the 40 pin connector to use it as a USB port. Amazon link - ASUS USB Kit for Eee Pad Transformer TF101, TF101G, TF201 & TF300 Tablets
In the reviews some say it is fully usable on the TF700.
Bohemian said:
While this does not address the use of a internet connection USB thumb drive it will address the topic of "USB on tablet possible without keyboard dock."
There is a Asus addon that plugs into the 40 pin connector to use it as a USB port. Amazon link - ASUS USB Kit for Eee Pad Transformer TF101, TF101G, TF201 & TF300 Tablets
In the reviews some say it is fully usable on the TF700.
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I own one of these and use it with a hub to plug in a full size desktop keyboard and mouse. Also, they're cheaper at Microcenter.
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I own one of these and use it with a hub to plug in a full size desktop keyboard and mouse. Also, they're cheaper at Microcenter.
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Link?
Also, if you can get a cheap Charging cable from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007GJR7GS/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00) anda cheap USB cable, can't you just make your own by splicing/soldering the wires and using some shrink tube?
It would be flexible and you can make it as long as you need it to be. I feel like having their adapter + a USB stick would stick out pretty badly from the bottom of the tablet
I was wondering the same thing - would be a lot less clunky if you could just attach a female to female usb adapter at the end of the charging cable to avoid having a big brick sitting on the side of the tablet.
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I was wondering the same thing - would be a lot less clunky if you could just attach a female to female usb adapter at the end of the charging cable to avoid having a big brick sitting on the side of the tablet.
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Me too
Not for internet access just for a thumb drive or card reader.
I had the A700 that would see most stuff;
Wired or wireless mice
Keyboards
32 gig data stick
SDHC card reader
etc
I did try a TPLink wireless data stick in the ACER, yet it was not recognized by Andwoid ICS.
Asus does sell a "converter" to convert the docking port to a USB port - sounds like that would do the trick for reading thumb drives, etc...
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I'd like to buy the 40 pin thing for cheap, pop it open and see if there is a circuit interface inside.
I think it's big because of the female USB A plug built into it.
Wonder why Asus just doesn't offer the plug with a wired dongle?
Hi,
often I want to sort my videos recorded by the PVR with my Tablet (ed.: Easier seek and rename)
and watch it also on my big TV via HDMI (less complicated atm then to stream it).
So I need the USB-Stick connected to it and the HDMI, too.
Is there some kind of adapter providing this with the SGN10.1 ?
Regards
Splotz
Not possible ?
ed.:
I found the pinout of the SGT10.1.
edit: Its SGT 7", but maybe the same pinout
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14612129
Looks like it could be possible to use "all" things..
Hope there will come a dock or keyboard dock to use it like a full port netbook.
Or is there already a multimedia dock available ?
Don't think so.
Something like that for the Note 10.1... wanna have...
http://www.pocketables.com/2010/08/dell-streaks-proprietary-connector-is-actually-pdmi.html
(these pins are different, but it should be easy to build something similiar if samsung did not "lock it down" in some way)
ed.:
Here is something about how to build your own cables.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155065
The only thing I really liked about asus TF300 was the ability to easily connect usb hdd (even ntfs) to the dock while it was connected to TV through micro-hdmi. I set up a bluetooth keyboard and mouse and managing the tablet on the tv was a peace of cake. But I returned it because the performance sucks on TF300. I really wish there were some similar dock for the note tab too.
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The only thing I really liked about asus TF300 was the ability to easily connect usb hdd (even ntfs) to the dock while it was connected to TV through micro-hdmi. I set up a bluetooth keyboard and mouse and managing the tablet on the tv was a peace of cake. But I returned it because the performance sucks on TF300. I really wish there were some similar dock for the note tab too.
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I think the Note can connect to the allshare cast dongle with is wireless mirroring. To basically the same thing. Or if you have a newer Samsung tv it connects wirelessly. to it as well.
Not sure if you can connect a usb hdd to the Note though through the usb connector.
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I think the Note can connect to the allshare cast dongle with is wireless mirroring. To basically the same thing. Or if you have a newer Samsung tv it connects wirelessly. to it as well.
Not sure if you can connect a usb hdd to the Note though through the usb connector.
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Thx, thats true.
But I am looking for hardware connectors for HDMI, USB, Charging and Audio at the same time. Like a "real" Multimedia Docking Station / Cable.
Usable everywhere with HDMI TVs, etc...
(Maybe the SGN10.1 has also analog TV+Audio out as I saw some adapters for Galaxy Tab with these connectors)
Soo, it's half a year later... I'm looking for the same solution as the OP... I want to be able to connect my Note to a HDMI monitor, then have at least 2 usb ports (mouse and keyboard, third one would be nice) and be able to charge it at the same time. I'm looking online for a cable that would allow that but it seems impossible. Is there any hope for Note to be an interactive center?
There is one solution though... I could buy the wireless hdmi dongle, then bluetooth mouse and keyboard (does Note support 2 devices through BT at the same time?) and thus leave the charging port free but that's not so good option considering that I wouldn't be able to plug even USB stick through such setting. Still, that would cost a lot more than I'm willing to pay for it since I don't have BT keyboard nor mouse and the wifi gadget is too expensive if you ask me.
hdmi and usb at same time?
the diagam posted under 'build your own cables' shows all the connections on the 30 pin connector, but doesnt yet show which wires hook to an hdmi cable, or how to hook up hdmi.
further confusing is the fact that none of the labels for the pins on the samsung connector match any of the signals listed in the hdmi Wiki page.
would someone who has opened an hdmi adapter or dock please post wiring info for an hdmi hookup?
please? or perhaps high res photos of both sides of a dock connector board?
wondering if anyone has used a miniusb to hdmi cable for their touchpad to play on their tv.
I'm asking because I did this on my toshiba thrive and I'm hooked now :S and want to do same with touchpad if possible
I can find some cable/adapter fairly cheap online so if it works, i'd get one
something like this http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Female-Mini-Male-Adapter/dp/B000TYL27M since I already have a hdmi cable so no need to buy another if an adapter would work
edit: i'm also wondering because a quick search said it wasn't possible but i also see this page that lists product as working with touchpad :S http://www.uzid.com/wholesale-hp-touchpad-hdmi-micro-to-hdmi-lcd-3ft-adapter-cable-cord-link-1.html
What you are looking for is USB MHL since the Touchpad has no HDMI port only micro USB, but the Touchpad does not support this feature.
hm ok thanks , maybe i'll look into those hmdi android dongles i see in marketplace then.
eyeb said:
wondering if anyone has used a miniusb to hdmi cable for their touchpad to play on their tv.
I'm asking because I did this on my toshiba thrive and I'm hooked now :S and want to do same with touchpad if possible
I can find some cable/adapter fairly cheap online so if it works, i'd get one
something like this http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Female-Mini-Male-Adapter/dp/B000TYL27M since I already have a hdmi cable so no need to buy another if an adapter would work
edit: i'm also wondering because a quick search said it wasn't possible but i also see this page that lists product as working with touchpad :S http://www.uzid.com/wholesale-hp-touchpad-hdmi-micro-to-hdmi-lcd-3ft-adapter-cable-cord-link-1.html
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The USB port on the HP Touchpad is barely USB OTG host compliant to connect USB devices, like keyboard, mouse, flash memory, etc. It is not USB HML capable, meaning there is no circuitry available to route video out the DATA+ / DATA- wires of the USB port.
There is no USB Dongle, or cable, that can do what you want. HP Touchpad does not support USB to HDMI.
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The USB port on the HP Touchpad is barely USB OTG host compliant to connect USB devices, like keyboard, mouse, flash memory, etc. It is not USB HML capable, meaning there is no circuitry available to route video out the DATA+ / DATA- wires of the USB port.
There is no USB Dongle, or cable, that can do what you want. HP Touchpad does not support USB to HDMI.
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I think he means to get an android tv dongle. They are little android devices with HDMI out and usb input, usually one of those 1Ghz A10 processors and 1Gb RAM. Neat little things, but my phone has MHL.
the mk802 is what you're talking about. there are a bunch of new versions comming out all the time. http://rikomagic.co.uk/forum, and http://miniand.com/forum are good places to get support and talk about these new devices.
Too bad we can't have HDMI out, Touchpad would do well as replacement for my media player