My friend has a USB internet stick which gives her internet access in remote areas.
We already have 40 pin usb to male usb with the tf700t.
Could I attach that male usb end to a female usb connection then to a male internet usb stick?
cheers.
I think that the USB stick requires software that might be not designed to run on the Android OS. Even if you can get the tab and the stick communicating, there's really very little likelihood they will work together. Many USB sticks have their own software in addition to the drivers needed for actually talking with the OS. Until it says "For Android" on the USB Stick's box, I think it's a no-go.
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I think that the USB stick requires software that might be not designed to run on the Android OS. Even if you can get the tab and the stick communicating, there's really very little likelihood they will work together. Many USB sticks have their own software in addition to the drivers needed for actually talking with the OS. Until it says "For Android" on the USB Stick's box, I think it's a no-go.
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Thanks Alienedd.
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Thanks Alienedd.
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Check out the a500 forums. I dont remember specifics, but there are usb data sticks there that will work. This was one of the main tablets that had a build in USB host port.
phoenixbennu said:
Check out the a500 forums. I dont remember specifics, but there are usb data sticks there that will work. This was one of the main tablets that had a build in USB host port.
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Good call! Maybe try this thread?
While this does not address the use of a internet connection USB thumb drive it will address the topic of "USB on tablet possible without keyboard dock."
There is a Asus addon that plugs into the 40 pin connector to use it as a USB port. Amazon link - ASUS USB Kit for Eee Pad Transformer TF101, TF101G, TF201 & TF300 Tablets
In the reviews some say it is fully usable on the TF700.
Bohemian said:
While this does not address the use of a internet connection USB thumb drive it will address the topic of "USB on tablet possible without keyboard dock."
There is a Asus addon that plugs into the 40 pin connector to use it as a USB port. Amazon link - ASUS USB Kit for Eee Pad Transformer TF101, TF101G, TF201 & TF300 Tablets
In the reviews some say it is fully usable on the TF700.
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I own one of these and use it with a hub to plug in a full size desktop keyboard and mouse. Also, they're cheaper at Microcenter.
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I own one of these and use it with a hub to plug in a full size desktop keyboard and mouse. Also, they're cheaper at Microcenter.
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Link?
Also, if you can get a cheap Charging cable from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007GJR7GS/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00) anda cheap USB cable, can't you just make your own by splicing/soldering the wires and using some shrink tube?
It would be flexible and you can make it as long as you need it to be. I feel like having their adapter + a USB stick would stick out pretty badly from the bottom of the tablet
I was wondering the same thing - would be a lot less clunky if you could just attach a female to female usb adapter at the end of the charging cable to avoid having a big brick sitting on the side of the tablet.
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I was wondering the same thing - would be a lot less clunky if you could just attach a female to female usb adapter at the end of the charging cable to avoid having a big brick sitting on the side of the tablet.
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Me too
Not for internet access just for a thumb drive or card reader.
I had the A700 that would see most stuff;
Wired or wireless mice
Keyboards
32 gig data stick
SDHC card reader
etc
I did try a TPLink wireless data stick in the ACER, yet it was not recognized by Andwoid ICS.
Asus does sell a "converter" to convert the docking port to a USB port - sounds like that would do the trick for reading thumb drives, etc...
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I'd like to buy the 40 pin thing for cheap, pop it open and see if there is a circuit interface inside.
I think it's big because of the female USB A plug built into it.
Wonder why Asus just doesn't offer the plug with a wired dongle?
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Hi,
I did a search on this forum and on google but couldn't find an answer to my question.
I'm thinking on getting the eee pad only and without the dock for android game development. But since i'm new to android programming i need your help to clarify somethings for me. My questions is:
from what i read the eee pad doesn't have USB port. how do i run adb to it then? how do i upload my apk?
thank you for your time.
cheers!
P
The Transformer pad doesnt have extra usb ports for connecting other devices to the pad. The docking station has 2 extra ports that allows you to add other devices to the transformer (like USB pens, USB HDD, Etc etc). The Pad comes with a USB cable that is for charging and connecting to the PC. Thats the cable you shall use to upload files to the TF and use adb on.
pixelblender said:
Hi,
I did a search on this forum and on google but couldn't find an answer to my question.
I'm thinking on getting the eee pad only and without the dock for android game development. But since i'm new to android programming i need your help to clarify somethings for me. My questions is:
from what i read the eee pad doesn't have USB port. how do i run adb to it then? how do i upload my apk?
thank you for your time.
cheers!
P
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It doesn't have a host usb port without a dock. You just plug in the usb cable that comes with it to the connector on the transformer, and plug in to your pc.
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The Transformer pad doesnt have extra usb ports for connecting other devices to the pad. The docking station has 2 extra ports that allows you to add other devices to the transformer (like USB pens, USB HDD, Etc etc). The Pad comes with a USB cable that is for charging and connecting to the PC. Thats the cable you shall use to upload files to the TF and use adb on.
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Damn you, come on. 4 seconds before me?
thanks Narog, msticninja!
Damn you, come on. 4 seconds before me?
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Lol.
But using the charging port i can mount the tablet storage on computer right?
Also has anyone tried connecting the mini HDMI to a TV or LCD Monitor? as far as i know tegra doesn't have hardware accelerated h264 decoding? and from what i read the best you can get is 1080p using baseline encoding? please correct me if i'm wrong
cheers!
P
pixelblender said:
thanks Narog, msticninja!
Lol.
But using the charging port i can mount the tablet storage on computer right?
Also has anyone tried connecting the mini HDMI to a TV or LCD Monitor? as far as i know tegra doesn't have hardware accelerated h264 decoding? and from what i read the best you can get is 1080p using baseline encoding? please correct me if i'm wrong
cheers!
P
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You welcome.
Yes the charging port is like on the Ipad a normal usb plug. Ofc you cant charge the TF at same time is connected to the PC. Since the transformer needs alot of mAmps to charge and the computer cant provide that (not the normal Motherboards, u need a board with charge capability).
Both the TF and the docking station has this special door for connecting the USB cable.
I havent tried to connected yet the TF to the TV, so i cant comment on that.
So, I purchases a USB OTG cable in an attempt to try and expand the functionality of Webtop while using Nebtop. I've been unable to get any response from the phone when I plug in this cable. I've tried my wireless Logitech mouse and keyboard that worked off the bat with my TF101 using the Unifying remote they came with as well as an external TB drive.
Has anyone else had any experience with this? It seems logical that the phone supports host mode since the actual dock has 3 full sized USB ports.
All the information pertaining to this sort of thing I've come up with seems extremely phone specific but if there's a simple solution I'm missing thanks all the more.
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So, I purchases a USB OTG cable in an attempt to try and expand the functionality of Webtop while using Nebtop. I've been unable to get any response from the phone when I plug in this cable. I've tried my wireless Logitech mouse and keyboard that worked off the bat with my TF101 using the Unifying remote they came with as well as an external TB drive.
Has anyone else had any experience with this? It seems logical that the phone supports host mode since the actual dock has 3 full sized USB ports.
All the information pertaining to this sort of thing I've come up with seems extremely phone specific but if there's a simple solution I'm missing thanks all the more.
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The problem actually lies in the usb port of the phone itself. The dock was designed for this purpose, and the dock app handles most that for you, the one thing that the dock is able to do that a straight USB cable can't do, is provide enough "bus" power to use a mouse or even a USB stick directly from the phone. If you want to use a Mouse you will need to get a dock. I got mine directly from wireless.att.com, and it was only $49.00 back in Nov. when I got it. It works VERY well with webtop.
P.S. Motorola is very famous for doing things like this to force you into a dock, or to lock out certain features that everyone really wants to use.
I made my own dock by using a powered usb hub I had sitting around (it was actually the one that came with Rock Band for my Xbox 360). I did have to modify it slightly so that the 1 pin was powered from the 5V (a simple shunt from the 5V inner pin of the power supply solder joint to the solder joint of the 1 pin worked fine--although it might be wise to insert an inline fuse since it also charges your phone while plugged in).
Otherwise, the only other thing needed is coming in the form of your otg adapter that should short the 5 pin (common) with your 4 pin (ID). I did this by cracking open an extra micro usb cable and soldering a wire between the two.
So, my setup was like this:
1. Modified usb cable to short the 4 & 5 pins to let the phone know to go into host
2. Use a female A-female A usb coupler to join the usb cable to the powered hub (I got mine here from Monoprice
3. Get 5V to the 1 pin in the usb hub to provide power to your phone and for whatever is plugged into the hub.
With this, I was easily able to run a usb mouse and a wireless keyboard that had a usb dongle. Paired with a micro hdmi cable to hdmi-dvi adapter, I am able to use my office monitor and the webtop linux. I honestly haven't really used it much yet (if I found it really useful, I probably would have just paid for the dock).
The obvious easy way is to just get the dock. However, I really like being able to do this on my own and since I had this stuff already laying around. Also, the cheap prices from monoprice (I actually made $4 off of the purchase from a PayPal bill-me-later promotion).
So, you should be able to get it to work if you get power to the bus on your usb (but again, it might be safe to pass an appropriate fast-acting fuse, ferrite core, or something to protect from surges). I haven't had issue yet, but I also don't use it often...yet .
It sounds like a bit of yes and a bit of no. The OTG cable I got is microUSB to female full USB, am I going to need to modify this cable as you've described by crossing the 4th and 5th pins?
I'm thinking about ordering this "7 Port USB Squid Hub" since it has the 5v power adapter, do you think it might work?
Just one more question and thanks for all the help but should I not see any response from the phone when I plug in the cable? I read through some of the reviews for cheap cables on Amazon and apparently sometimes they're just useless.
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It sounds like a bit of yes and a bit of no. The OTG cable I got is microUSB to female full USB, am I going to need to modify this cable as you've described by crossing the 4th and 5th pins?
I'm thinking about ordering this "7 Port USB Squid Hub" since it has the 5v power adapter, do you think it might work?
Just one more question and thanks for all the help but should I not see any response from the phone when I plug in the cable? I read through some of the reviews for cheap cables on Amazon and apparently sometimes they're just useless.
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The OTG cable have should work. The OTG cable, to my knowledge, should already have pins 4 & 5 shorted together. I'm not completely certain, but if it's designed as an OTG, it would probably already have that done. If you have an ohmmeter/multimeter, you could try to check (it's hard to isolate the small pins, but you can try). If it's already going to the USB female (type A), you will then be able to directly attach your hub when you get it (without the need of the coupler I had to get).
When I used mine, there was no notification that said "Hey, I'm in USB Host Mode!". However, if you successfully have a mouse attached, you'll see a mouse cursor arrow on your screen.
Have fun with it and if you can't get it to work, let me know and I'll try to explain with even more detail (perhaps with some pretty pictures) of what I did. I more or less went off of what I could glean from reading what others did.
It works great! Also, it is weird to see the mouse on this little a screen, it seems oversized.
I just plugged everything in and it worked off the bat. I'm using just two items from Amazon I got for under 12 bucks (plus, of course, the keyboard and mouse I already had for my computer). I don' think I can post links to the forums yet but the ASINs for the items if people want to do this on the super cheap are as follows:
B0043TBCDS 7 Port USB Squid Hub, a whopping $5.19
B005N55WHI Micro-B USB OTG Cable... $5.99
I chose these because of their Prime eligibility and also for their form factor so as not to cover the HDMI port, I bet it's not impossible to get these even cheaper.
While this isn't technically a replacement for the dock since I had to root the device and I have to press "Load" in Nebtop if I want to go to Webtop I'm extremely pleased with the results.
I also love that all the soft keys are available. The ones I've discovered are that right button on the mouse as well as Esc are Back, the Home key is Home, clicking the wheel as well as Ctrl, Cmd, Alt and a whole slew of others bring up the Menu, but all I can find is F5 for Search.
On another note, while the phone does charge when hooked up, a practical boon, the screen still times out despite having the "Stay awake" feature checked. This is annonying when the phone is on it's side accross the room and I have to squint to see the cursor and swipe it unlocked sideways as well as click back into Mirror Display.
hey everyone, so i have been reading around and there are alot of people talking about the usb extention for the asus transformer.
Here is my thought: what if you used your existing usb charger/data cable and then but a female to female usb adapter on it? this has just been in my mind for a while and i saw that the adapter would cost around 3 instead of 20 for the asus branded one.
has anyone tried this or should i just get the adapter made by asus?
For $3 why not just try it and let us know?
I'm pretty sure this will not work, since the adapter has additional circuits to put the tf in usb otg (on the go) mode, which is the usb host functionality in plain english.
Yo will need an usb 3.0 cable. It won't work with a normal (2.0) one
As alluded to above, 2 different things.
The usb3 cable is an extension, the adapter is a hub (adding usb to the tab).
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I'm pretty sure this will not work, since the adapter has additional circuits to put the tf in usb otg (on the go) mode, which is the usb host functionality in plain english.
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thanks, i was just curious. Do you know where i could order one of the asus ones to canada?
I've heard that the External USB Adapter from ASUS is a notoriously difficult beast to locate. It's marketed to plug into a bare tablet and provide a Host USB connector. But, would it also work in the charging port of the keyboard dock giving a second Host USB port? (Yes, I know a hub would do this. But If one wants this device to connect USB storage to a bare tablet, would it also do double duty and work with the dock?)
It certainly sounds possible. Mostly because I think the internals of the keyboard dock are a hub already basically.
One usb going to the card reader, one going to the usb port, one to the keyboard function, and another as a passthrough to the proprietary data port.
So by using the usb adapter you are just converting the otherwise unused data port into another usb port.
since there both 40 pin connecters i imagine that would work
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since there both 40 pin connecters i imagine that would work
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That is also my assumption, but we all know what assuming does. All depends if all the signals are passed through, and if there are any lag or transmission line issues.
Has anyone tried this to verify if it does or does not work?
Hi all,
Looking To Buy Asus Transformer Infinity TF700 without keyboard, i have few questions.
How can i connect usb disk (or usb memory key) on TF700 ?
Using "usb female to usb female adaptor" can work for connecting usb drive on Usb dock cable of TF700 (without dock) ?
Thanks.
There's this asus thing on amazon for some money that converts the bottom proprietary port into a USB port. From there you could (possibly) attach a USB hub or whatever for your needs.
I got b& at /g/ for sh!tposting ;_;
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There's this asus thing on amazon for some money that converts the bottom proprietary port into a USB port. From there you could (possibly) attach a USB hub or whatever for your needs.
I got b& at /g/ for sh!tposting ;_;
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that's right, it's called an usb kit but i'm not sure if it works for the tf700 since it says "ASUS USB Kit for Eee Pad Transformer TF101, TF101G, TF201 & TF300 Tablets"
You can get the USB adapter for like $30 (works on the 700), or you can go to best buy and get the tf201 dock (that works perfectly on the 700) for $99. IMHO, the dock is the way to go...
Currently, I have both the TF201 dock (best buy $99) and an Asus USB kit (amazon $17) and am glad to have both. The USB kit works but seems to easily come loose, which is horrible for hard drives.
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You could also buy a micro sd card and plug that into a cheap $3 usb adapter. eg: http://www.dealextreme.com/c/card-readers-300
Thats how I've been loading up my micro sd cards with ebooks and movies.
I asked earlier on the forum about pluging in my usb external 2tb drive to the tablet 40 pin via a usb adapter but was told that might be a no go due to lack of android drivers. Has anyone attempted it? I'd be curious to see if it could somehow work.
Syn010 said:
You could also buy a micro sd card and plug that into a cheap $3 usb adapter. eg: http://www.dealextreme.com/c/card-readers-300
Thats how I've been loading up my micro sd cards with ebooks and movies.
I asked earlier on the forum about pluging in my usb external 2tb drive to the tablet 40 pin via a usb adapter but was told that might be a no go due to lack of android drivers. Has anyone attempted it? I'd be curious to see if it could somehow work.
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I just plugged a Seagate 2TB external hard drive into the USB adapter and it came up and is working. Movies play, music plays, pictures, etc.
According to you will it be possibile in a future (maybe with an hack) to connect in this female usb port an usb stick modem with sim card?
Go with the dock.
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I just plugged a Seagate 2TB external hard drive into the USB adapter and it came up and is working. Movies play, music plays, pictures, etc.
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Wicked! :good: Wait do you mean via tablet 40pin usb or do you mean usb via the dock.
Asus drives me nutz with this idiot connector deal.
It's horsepoop if you ask me.
Even them Samsing tabs with their weird plugins have connector options available locally.
Asus = nope...uh-uh...sorry...no deal my man...your stuck buying our big ole' huge massive goofy interface clunker unit thingy!
I find this irritating.
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Wicked! :good: Wait do you mean via tablet 40pin usb or do you mean usb via the dock.
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A little more testing and perhaps better wording:
The 2TB hard drive worked via the tablet's 40 pin input (the one on the bottom that you usually charge from) using the USB adapter.
The 2TB hard drive worked via the dock's USB input.
Nothing worked when I plugged the USB adapter into the dock's 40pin input.
I hope this helps. I have other external hard drives I can test. 500GB - 2TB, Western Digital, Seagate, Toshiba, a few are USB 3.0, most are USB 2.0.
FWIW, like others, I would highly recommend the dock, especially @ $99. I didn't think I needed it, felt it defeated the idea of a tablet, and had the TF Prime for months without it, but when it went up for $99 @ BB I pulled the trigger on it and I have been pretty amazed at how much I like having available. I use it all the time. It adds a lot of value to the TFs. The fact that I could upgrade to the TF700 and keep it was awesome, I'm not sure I would want a tablet that didn't have something similar going forward.
I got the Infinity without the keyboard as well. I actually already had a portable blue tooth keyboard, which is the Freedom Pro Keyboard. You can pick up on the net from $50 to $100. Amazon link
It's not going to have all the integration of the dock or anything. But I can use it on multiple devices since it has both the HID and SSP blue tooth protocols. I've used it both on my Evo 4G and the Infinity and works like a champ. It does use two AAA batteries. But in the months I've had it, I've only changed them once, and I think I left it on for about three or four days before I discovered it one time.
The thing the dock has that you may want, more battery life, USB ports, and SD card slot. In theory, would could type with it in bed or something too, although I've heard you'll want a flatter surface. It's a pretty nice looking dock and all. But I just didn't see what big benefit it would give me compared to what I had, other than battery life.
I did write on the Freedom Pro Keyboard from when I got it (Link to another forum). It gives my opinion and observations.
I tried to connect a Logitech K400 wirelesse keyboard with no success. I bought a female-female usb adapter and plugged it at my ASUS usb docking cable. The RF receiver isn't recognized and the keyboard can't be used.
WTF ASUS is forcing to use expensive accessory, e.g. dock by 150 € or usb adpter by 30€? Today I'll try the K400 at my sister-in-law's Acer A700 tablet. If it works she can have the keyboard.
Does anyone try another 3rd USB adapter acccessory with things like webcam or keyboard?
I have a little HP bluetooth keyboard that pairs to tf700t pretty well .... it messes up sometimes.
Sort of saved me from buying the dock.
Wish I had a bluetooth mouse tho...
I agree about the Asus pain in the ass 40 pin connector.
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thunderger said:
I tried to connect a Logitech K400 wirelesse keyboard with no success. I bought a female-female usb adapter and plugged it at my ASUS usb docking cable. The RF receiver isn't recognized and the keyboard can't be used....
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I'm not that surprise this isn't working. One, the keyboard is not blue tooth, which you know. Two, you need drivers to work the unifying usb receiver. I would be surprised if Android had the drivers. Didn't you notice when you plugged into your PC, WIndows or OSX downloaded drivers to install?
To your point, no you don't have buy the ASUS keyboard dock for $150EU/US. If don't mind it not matching, from what has been explored in other threads, the Transformer Prime (TF200) dock is the same, and can be found for around $100EU/US. But since you're you were trying to use something else, there are a plenty of other blue tooth keyboards that can be used. You're looking for one with the HID protocol. Although, you can probably use the SPP, but you'll probably need to make sure you get the drivers somewhere.
I suspect you're looking for that wireless to be able to use with it. I only briefly explored it for use with my phone. You'll have to search and research. There may be something. Personally, it wasn't a must have. Since I'm right next to the tablet, I can just touch the screen just as easily. Other than a few games on OnLive, I can think of what it can do better than my finger on the tablet. Plus, I think the cost will be the same after both the keyboard and mouse/touch pad.
I guess the question for you, not so much is ASUS keyboard dock is pricey, but can you do what you plan with something else. And is the cost of whatever you get, worth the benefit derived.