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Hello,
I am thinking about getting a captivate while they're on sale at amazon. I played around with one at ATT and I didn't notice any lag problems, is it hit or miss depending on the phone you get? Does everyone who has a captivate notice this?
Also, what is meant by lag in this instance. My evo has noticeable input lag unless I unlock the screen, is this something similar or a different kind of lag? It's kind of annoying seeing all these high end phones have annoying problems like this, but I might get the captivate anyway because of the beastly gpu in it and the awesome screen.
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They all have it. It's not a big deal unless you are coming from a faster phone. Then it's obvious and annoying. If it does start to bother you, there are now very robust and easy to apply fixes that make it as fast as any phone. So long story short: It's not a big problem.
Mine, after much customization, but still running the stock JF6 ROM and kernel, seems to run pretty well. Much better than my roomate's unrooted stock Vibrant, that's for damn sure. I honestly don't know what the difference is. I've used OS monitor to see usage, and he actually has significantly more free RAM than I do. 170MB to ~100MB. I have reflashed using Odin one click, and am rooted with all bloatware removed. The Evo black bar and Launcher mod are installed, and I'm using Beautiful Widget and Live Wallpaper. He is using no widgets and a static wall paper with ADW launcher.
I got nothin'.
My Captivate is stock, haven't even rooted it yet, and I generally don't have problems with lag. I notice it boots very slow, takes probably 10 min to settle down after boot. But once everything settles in there is very little lag. I'm coming from a Tilt2 with an Energy ROM. I have noticed animated wallpaper will slow it down a bit and certain widgets. The compass widget slowed mine down a LOT.
If you ask me, yes, it's a big problem. The lag is very noticeable and very annoying. Fortunately, as stated, there are fixes out that works very well.
As I'm sure you can tell from the comments its all relative. I came from an iPhone 3GS, and didn't really notice lag. I saw occasional lag when I have a lot running, but what can you expect with an OS that actually does multitasking. I use Advanced Task Killer (free in market) to kill things I don't need. I didn't see a speed boost, but saw a lag less often. I installed Taytanna(?) Lagfix and it does feel snappier. I wouldn't say the lagfix is a must, but see no reason not to get a little more bang for your Buck. Its a simple safe process.
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I just bought this thing and I love it, but I've noticed it gets VERY laggy sometimes. I don't have very much running, since I just bought it yesterday, but it lags almost as much as my G1 did 2 years ago!
Swiping between homescreens gets very jittery and it just overall feels slow compared to my N1. Anyone else noticing lag and slowdowns or is it just me?
Hmm. I never have noticeable lag on my MT4G. Try doing a factory reset.
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Nope, much quicker than my vibrant.
Solution: Launcherpro
I don't notice any. Snappiest Android phone I have had to date. And I have had a lot
I noticed the lag as well when comparing with my Vibrant that is stock. Also the MT4G screen doesn't seem to be as responsive as the Vibrant. The webpage scrolling was also jerky as compared to Vibrant. I was all set on getting the MT4g but what I saw yesterday at the store really disappointed me.
How do you stop the initial lag when you wake the phone up. I believe it is due to the opening animation of sense ui. it even happens when i use launcher pro. i know this because in launcher pro i can see the sun animation going off. this causes me to pause before i can do anything on the phone.
example: wake phone up from sleep with the power button.
unlock is ok
say i need to make a call, i press the phone icon but nothing happens if i press it too fast after unlocking the phone. i always have to wait a second.
how do i turn that off so i can operate my phone in stride?
no lag here still waiting on the ota my gf got it and she hit update before i was able to grab it -__-
methodz said:
How do you stop the initial lag when you wake the phone up. I believe it is due to the opening animation of sense ui. it even happens when i use launcher pro. i know this because in launcher pro i can see the sun animation going off. this causes me to pause before i can do anything on the phone.
example: wake phone up from sleep with the power button.
unlock is ok
say i need to make a call, i press the phone icon but nothing happens if i press it too fast after unlocking the phone. i always have to wait a second.
how do i turn that off so i can operate my phone in stride?
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Is it the weather clock animation that you have to wait for? If so, then remove the clock and re-add it. When you add it back it will ask you if you want animation, just uncheck and it wont do that anymore.
I had LauncherPro on my Nexus and loved it, but with MySense I decided not to use it since Sense has everying I liked about launcher pro built in.
Mine will be extremely fast sometimes and VERY slow sometimes, it's weird. I can't explain the extreme slowdowns. My Nexus felt a lot faster than this one with a slower processor and less RAM. I can only think it's the HTC UI, but I have animations turned off and it's still laggy.
I just ran quadrant and got a score of 1981! This is after the update. This thing is ridiculously fast for me with no lag at all.
methodz said:
How do you stop the initial lag when you wake the phone up. I believe it is due to the opening animation of sense ui. it even happens when i use launcher pro. i know this because in launcher pro i can see the sun animation going off. this causes me to pause before i can do anything on the phone.
example: wake phone up from sleep with the power button.
unlock is ok
say i need to make a call, i press the phone icon but nothing happens if i press it too fast after unlocking the phone. i always have to wait a second.
how do i turn that off so i can operate my phone in stride?
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hey i noticed the sun animation when i woke up my phone but that was not the htc sense weather thing. it was a weather app i downloaded from the market. i forget what it is called but it had an app on and it did the sun thing everytime i unlocked my screen even when it wasnt there. so i uninstalled it and never had that problem again
methodz said:
How do you stop the initial lag when you wake the phone up. I believe it is due to the opening animation of sense ui. it even happens when i use launcher pro. i know this because in launcher pro i can see the sun animation going off. this causes me to pause before i can do anything on the phone.
example: wake phone up from sleep with the power button.
unlock is ok
say i need to make a call, i press the phone icon but nothing happens if i press it too fast after unlocking the phone. i always have to wait a second.
how do i turn that off so i can operate my phone in stride?
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f1restarter said:
I noticed the lag as well when comparing with my Vibrant that is stock. Also the MT4G screen doesn't seem to be as responsive as the Vibrant. The webpage scrolling was also jerky as compared to Vibrant. I was all set on getting the MT4g but what I saw yesterday at the store really disappointed me.
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i dont have issues with lag but i think the vibrant has the best gpu on the market so that could help it with scrolling pages but my mt4g doesnt get jerky at all when scrolling pages. but also the vibrant gets better fps in quadrant test but the mt4g gets a much higher score stock vs stock.
I also noticed after a full day of use, when I check my battery usage "Android System" is the number 1 use of my battery, almost 50%. I talked on the phone for half an hour, sent 5-6 text messages and looked at 3-4 web pages. The only apps I had running were FriendStream (set to update Facebook only every 4 hours), the clock widget (updating every 3), News (updating every 4 hours), WiFi and Bluetooth on. My Nexus always showed Android System as maybe 15% of my battery with a TON of apps running. It seems like the OS on this phone is doing A LOT in the background that I don't know about...
Maybe that could be the cause of the lag I'm seeing?
Any ideas?
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I also noticed after a full day of use, when I check my battery usage "Android System" is the number 1 use of my battery, almost 50%. I talked on the phone for half an hour, sent 5-6 text messages and looked at 3-4 web pages. The only apps I had running were FriendStream (set to update Facebook only every 4 hours), the clock widget (updating every 3), News (updating every 4 hours), WiFi and Bluetooth on. My Nexus always showed Android System as maybe 15% of my battery with a TON of apps running. It seems like the OS on this phone is doing A LOT in the background that I don't know about...
Maybe that could be the cause of the lag I'm seeing?
Any ideas?
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i use a task killer so i have no problem with lag
I noticed the lag too, it was a contrast for the first myTouch 4G I saw but still, it was pretty laggy on my second visit.
heygrl said:
I noticed the lag too, it was a contrast for the first myTouch 4G I saw but still, it was pretty laggy on my second visit.
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well idk but i got an update yesterday ota but not to sure what it did. now my android build says 2.2.1
Yeah I use a task killer too. Helps some, but not a lot.
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I've had an Hero, EVO, N1, Vibrant, G2 and now the MT4G. This is the fastest most lag free phone I've used yet. Not that it helps, but I've not seen any lag at all.
I've had the biggest case of lag on mine as well . Turned out phone was defective. Call the store you got it from and see if they issue you a new one. I went to get my new one and experience no lag at all.
I have had this for about a week now and here are my issues - I want to know if it is just me and I should exchange it or???
Touchscreen - seems not responsive at times.
Netflix - movies and shows will just pause for no reason. Have to tap to play again.
Portrait/landscape switching - seem very slow
web browser - has a different screen brightness than regular? I have auto turned off set it to about 50 percent but whenever I launch the browser - the brightness drops to like 30 and I manually set it to 50 but every time...boom back down.
is this thing buggy or did I just get a bad one?
All you have wrote is same with my tablet, and more:
1.Browser crashes at some links and it is almost impossible to moderate forums.
2.Wake up after pressing power button takes around 1sec.
3. WiFi connection is very poor with some ruters (tested on public WiFi spots, connects but browsing is very, very poor compare to my old Galaxy P1000).
It`s good to have one tread with all bugs and issues collected
P.S I terribly sorry I`ve exchanged my P1000 with P6200.
Are you on stock or rooted and what kernel?
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Using srock rom, ADW EX and Dolphin Browser. None from above issues in my Tab. Everything works smoothly without crashes.
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I have had this for about a week now and here are my issues - I want to know if it is just me and I should exchange it or???
Touchscreen - seems not responsive at times.
Netflix - movies and shows will just pause for no reason. Have to tap to play again.
Portrait/landscape switching - seem very slow
web browser - has a different screen brightness than regular? I have auto turned off set it to about 50 percent but whenever I launch the browser - the brightness drops to like 30 and I manually set it to 50 but every time...boom back down.
is this thing buggy or did I just get a bad one?
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The browser does the same on mine. It drives me nuts but I haven't been able to find a way to turn it off.
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I'm with stok room too - XXKL7 rooted. Does anyone have problem with browser crashes, or just me?
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Is this happening on build in browser? Try Dolphin and see the difference. I have no problems at all. Anyway try settings and cache cleaning some times.
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Is this happening on build in browser? Try Dolphin and see the difference. I have no problems at all. Anyway try settings and cache cleaning some times.
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Yes, it happens only in default browser, so I start using Opera Tried all setting before passing to Opera.
And one more issue, screen freezes at landscape sometimes. This happened fife times since I have this tablet (2 months).
SOD is killing me! All the sudden it shuts down while the battery is charged!, everything else works fine.
BTW i was using my tab for 1 week or so and had no probs with it @ all, but 2 days ago it started to have the SOD thingy!?
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SOD is killing me! All the sudden it shuts down while the battery is charged!, everything else works fine.
BTW i was using my tab for 1 week or so and had no probs with it @ all, but 2 days ago it started to have the SOD thingy!?
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There is a thread devoted to the SOD, but I'll save you at least an hour and write up the fixes we've found for it here:
1. Try removing your SD card. (It seems that Sandisk SD cards have been quite troublesome. It's mainly class 2 Sandisks and off-brand cards, but taking them out usually improves it.) If it does stop SODing, you can then reformat the card and put it back in. If it still SODs after that, you may need to get a different card. Go with Class 4, that seems to be the one that people have less issues with. Usually people with SD related SODs have other issues with their SD, such as an inability to read/write or random "Media Scanning" messages.
2. (If the SD card doesn't fix the SODs,) install "Auto Airplane Mode," by DON. It is available for free in the Android Market. This usually stops the SOD's or decreases their frequency to a minor annoyance.
After you've done that, I would recommend that you take some time and read through the SOD thread if you haven't already. It's always helpful to know about the issue, and we're actively working on a more permanent, cohesive workaround. We have, at least, discovered the cause of the SOD, and garyd9 is in contact with Samsung about the issue. The thread is here
Good Luck!
My touch screen is less responsive when I am plugged into the wall sometimes. And my capacative stylus never works right in the morning...
Running rooted, deodexed, o/c kernel.
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I think I am returning it - it pretty much has the same hardware as my GIIS but seems laggy, The screen is kind of washed out to me. The touch screen is very very laggy - in Fruit Ninja it is especially evident versus my asus or GIIS. I love the form factor and dumped a kindle fire for this - guess I will wait for a good 7"
Well, as far as I know, this is an original idea I thought of the other day when watching my friend reboot his Iphone. As soon as it loaded up the main screen and he unlocked, it responded and moved as fast as it did if 2 hours after a reboot. That made me think, when i first boot-up my phone, it is laggy, slow, unresponsive because of the media scanner running, but this only happens for about 20-30 seconds at most, but why can't Google just start the media scanning when there's 20 seconds left on the boot animation. I realize this would lengthen the boot animation further, but personally, I'd rather wake to a responsive phone with no lag etc.
Yes? No? Am I just stupid? Opinions please.
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Well, as far as I know, this is an original idea I thought of the other day when watching my friend reboot his Iphone. As soon as it loaded up the main screen and he unlocked, it responded and moved as fast as it did if 2 hours after a reboot. That made me think, when i first boot-up my phone, it is laggy, slow, unresponsive because of the media scanner running, but this only happens for about 20-30 seconds at most, but why can't Google just start the media scanning when there's 20 seconds left on the boot animation. I realize this would lengthen the boot animation further, but personally, I'd rather wake to a responsive phone with no lag etc.
Yes? No? Am I just stupid? Opinions please.
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I like your idea.
I came from iPhone and have definitely noticed that difference myself. Personally, I think it's worth it, but it would be nice to have ALL of the startup stuff done during startup. My iPhone 4 takes much longer than my SGS2 to actually show the lock screen, but the amount of time until I'm able to use the phone is about the same.
Maybe that's something the devs here could look into building into a ROM. Just have it do everything BEFORE showing the lock screen. Heck, I'd deal with a static boot logo instead of an animation if it would work better.
For me, I like the Android way. I can make calls and send sms while media scanning is in progress.
Ofcourse the initial show off is missing..
What I miss in my galaxy s2 is a reboot option in stock rom..
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Hmm, either this issue is rectified in ICS or the Nexus is just blazing fast
I'm using my phone at normal speeds the moment it boots up.
I, believe there is in app in market that allows you to disable the media scanner on startup and refresh it whenever you see fit.
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But see the thing is, what I would prefer is that it were to still happen, I just wouldn't mind it at the end of my boot.. even though my boot time is about 3 minutes for some reason
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Good idea but that is the way Android works.....
It is a pain in the ass too that you cannot set the alarm and switch off the
phone to save battery in the night. It will never ring to wake you up in the morning.
That's something Google really ought to fix (and therefore won't).
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Media scanning process takes about 15 seconds, and I'm ok with it, consideeing I only power cycle my Skyrocket once or twice a week.
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There's something Apple has become really good at in my opinion and it's just that. Making the experience transparent. I'd rather prefer to see smooth transitions everywhere instead of snappy but choppy transitions. They both end up being the same on terms of real usability.
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That's something Google really ought to fix (and therefore won't).
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What needs fixing? I'm assuming you mean media scanner not previous post about turning phone off?
Media scanner is quick even though I take lots of pics and use lots of mp3's on my phone so I don't see it as a problem myself.
Dave
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polobunny said:
There's something Apple has become really good at in my opinion and it's just that. Making the experience transparent. I'd rather prefer to see smooth transitions everywhere instead of snappy but choppy transitions. They both end up being the same on terms of real usability.
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Spot on. Also just the little things they had, like the nice little flowing animation when you open a folder, or even their multitasking. They added multitasking after Android had it, except they made it nicer, smoother etc.
Hi guys,
Not sure it was there when I got my 32Gb Note 10.1 or not. I updated it to the latest software version early on. I don't have that many apps installed on it and only a couple of widgets on the desktop. The scroll stutters at times when I start scrolling: it starts off fine, then stutters for a short time, almost like a single hick up, and then continues just fine. It's doesn't happen 100% of the time but is more consistent as of late. I observed it going from screen to screen and in the main browsers scrolling through the page. I restarted the tab, closed running apps/services, which made no difference.
Has anyone noticed anything similar to that? Does that sound like a normal behavior? Have had a few Android phones before but this is my 1st Android tab so not sure what level of performance I should expect. Thanks!
Have not experienced any stuttering. The only time I have noticed the SGN10.1 stuttering is when drawing shapes in s.note. then it can get a little bogged down.
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Try going to settings, developer, and under window and transition animations. Try setting to.5 or zero.
That should fix it.
I was using HD Widgets and had a 8x1 clock/weather widget on my first home page. I was playing with the stock clock/weather widget and by removing the HD Widget's clock the stuttering improved a lot. I'm still using it for some toggles and that seems fine. If anyone is using HD Widgets you can remove the widgets you're not actively using and that seems to speed things up too.
i have a 3 day old 16gb wifi gnote. my experience with stuttering has been unmistakable in 2 places: general system animations (moving between screens or opening settings for example) and a laggy stock browser.
when i swipe home screens, i get similar stutters as the OP. so i went ahead and cleaned up all the stock (bloatware) widgets... hardly a solution but i hope it isnt a problem when i do install useful widgets soon.. someone suggested reducing animations to 0.5x or 0. well thats really sad for a higher end tablet i think. similar stuttering scrolls in gmail and play store.
with the browser, i usually get stutters when scrolling a fairly heavy page. the most annoying thing is that if there are many images on a page, the browser blanks them out when scrolling and then redraws them at the end of scrolling! so i simply installed chrome instead... and thats working better
i also tried this game called wind up knight just to see some 3d action... there too the stutter was quite obvious.
im not blown away by the quad core awesomeness out-of-the-box i must say. i think my 2 year old HTC HD2 (1ghz single core) is generally faster at running ics. i hope custom roms are able to better harness the hardware...
forgot to mention that i am running the old UEALGB rom
tonyz3 said:
Try going to settings, developer, and under window and transition animations. Try setting to.5 or zero.
That should fix it.
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So what exactly does this do?
I am on my second g note. Got rid of the 16 GBP for the 32. The only thing I have done on both was got rid of the widgets it came in stalled with and adj the settings and it flies like butter.
Someone else mentioned the power saver mode. Check that it is not on.
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I am on my second g note. Got rid of the 16 GBP for the 32. The only thing I have done on both was got rid of the widgets it came in stalled with and adj the settings and it flies like butter.
Someone else mentioned the power saver mode. Check that it is not on.
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No power savings mode. I suspect some of you just not noticing it. I do have an eye for those kind of things though.
i didnt have my power saving mode on... the problem became extremely irritating with that feature on...
however i did restart my tablet and that did solve almost all my worries! i too now have a "buttery smooth" tablet before restart, my ram usage was around 1.4gb and i suspect around 70+ active apps in memory. after restart, my ram usage was 0.4gb and all the lags and stutters went away! so one possible solution could be for you to go to task manager and clean out active apps from memory. then check if there is any stutter in general usage. hope this helps!
ps: i did clean out all my home screen bloat widgets. so i really cant say how smoothly they will scroll after cleaning out the ram.
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No power savings mode. I suspect some of you just not noticing it. I do have an eye for those kind of things though.
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I think anyone who comes to this site for info knows what lag is and looks like.:cyclops:
Not denying that there are some defective units, as with any thing to buy there will be some.
We are just trying to offer solutions.
tonyz3 said:
I think anyone who comes to this site for info knows what lag is and looks like.:cyclops:
Not denying that there are some defective units, as with any thing to buy there will be some.
We are just trying to offer solutions.
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Sorry, didn't mean to imply anything. I do appreciate all the help and feedback from all xda members.
I was just basically reflecting on my nature and the fact that I do tend to concentrate on details sometimes. So, my point was that there may or may not be lag there and perhaps I'm just "seeing" things. I have a good eye for these things in general, so assuming lag or more like stutter is there, the next question is whether that's something particular to my tab or others are seeing it too. If later is the case than it could be software and/or hardware issue. I thought the specs this thing packing it should have no problems scrolling silky smooth. Don't wanna jump to any conclusions just yet though...
Tried reducing animation scale but it made little difference. Wondering, just for comparison, has anyone seen Note 10.1 scrolling videos posted out there?
Thanks!
I agree it does stutter slightly. If you are reading an article and are scrolling down as you read, its not smooth. Hopefully they will fix it.
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I agree it does stutter slightly. If you are reading an article and are scrolling down as you read, its not smooth. Hopefully they will fix it.
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Thanks for sharing! Anybody else ran into this as well?
Actually, now that you mention it...
When i first received the tablet, i noticed the lag swiping from screen to screen. I shut it off after about 15 minutes, to charge the battery faster when the unit is off. After rebooting, i noticed it seemed to go much faster....
Also, after installing the update (which may or may not be available anymore) my overall smoothness went up about 100%, something i noticed immediately.
Doesn't stutter for me anymore, unless i have power saver mode on and really pushing it. Asphalt 7 (looks somewhat hi-tech 3d graphics, maybe not) runs exceptionally well, so i am not sure i'm getting the lag anymore. Maybe this is what some of the reviewers saw at first, while doing their first 15 minute review?
I can't complain anymore because it seems to be fine on mine, with the exception of this XDA app
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Sorry, didn't mean to imply anything. I do appreciate all the help and feedback from all xda members.
I was just basically reflecting on my nature and the fact that I do tend to concentrate on details sometimes. So, my point was that there may or may not be lag there and perhaps I'm just "seeing" things. I have a good eye for these things in general, so assuming lag or more like stutter is there, the next question is whether that's something particular to my tab or others are seeing it too. If later is the case than it could be software and/or hardware issue. I thought the specs this thing packing it should have no problems scrolling silky smooth. Don't wanna jump to any conclusions just yet though...
Tried reducing animation scale but it made little difference. Wondering, just for comparison, has anyone seen Note 10.1 scrolling videos posted out there?
Thanks!
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Once the jelly bean update finally comes around I am sure it will get smoother.
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Trying to get a sense if this is a widespread issue with almost every GNote or with just a small number of tabs. If first is the case then it can probably/likely be addressed via some software update. But if it's a later case then exchange is in order. I have no way of reliably validating it so I'll probably gonna go for an exchange early next week.
Anyone has some Samsung feedback linky handy, other than FB, by any chance? Thanks.
Not to hijack my one thread... but I have a new problem develop last night: some parts of the screen, left side in particular, in the standard browser weren't responding to touch/clicks. Tried clearing out all apps, restarting the browser, etc. Didn't help much. Seems to be better. Not sure what's going on.