Recently, I was using the GPS on my tbolt while driving, with a car charger, when I noticed that the battery icon had a question mark in it. A few minutes after arriving at my destination, the phone died, and will not charge or turn on. The orange charging icon does not turn on, regardless of what charger I use (official or otherwise). My girlfriends Incredible charges fine with the same charger. I took the phone to the store, and they didn't have any luck either, however, I didn't see them try another battery. They got me on the line with a rep to do a warranty return, and the new bolt should be here on Tuesday, and I have to ship my broken one back within 5 days after that.
The phone is rooted with CM7 on it. If they are able to turn it on, they will immediately see that it is rooted (custom splash, boot animation, etc..) My question is, has anyone had this issue? Is it fixable? Have you ever sent a rooted phone back under warranty? What happened? Should I try a new battery first? I'm not sure if the light should come on regardless of whether the battery works or not.
Any input is appreciated. I've read about people sending back rooted phones, but not for this issue.
It's more than likely a bad battery. Most Verizon reps are retarded when it comes to their phones (pretty sad right?) My girlfriend got her Eris's battery wet (a loooong time ago lol) and it got the question mark in the battery icon.
I don't think the light will come on without a battery.
As far as sending a rooted phone back, I'm not sure. If there is any way you could get your hands on another tbolt or rezound battery, I would try that.
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Try a different battery.
If you send back a rooted phone the worst that can happen is that you'll be billed full price for a new one.
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My inspire keeps powering off at ranodm times and has gotten worse. If its plugged into a power source it will stay on, but the second its pulled off theres a huge chance that it will just randomly power off. I've wiped the battery stats, factory rest a bunch of times, tried multiple roms and radios and can't find a solution. ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!
See if ATT will give you a new battery.
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See if ATT will give you a new battery.
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I know it sounds like he's being an ass, but I think he's right. I have the exact same problem. Used CoreDroid, MIUI, & HoneySense 4 & 5 and they all randomly rebooted. I noticed that after I powered back on, the battery level would be significantly different. It got progressively worse as the battery level drops. Once I get to about 23%, it just turns off when I try to do anything. I speculate that the sudden increase in battery drain from the screen getting bright & the radio draws more current than the battery can provide.
To test, I got my phone to the point that it would turn off every time I booted it. It would show the homescreen & say that it had 18% battery. I then plugged it in to the USB charger & it works fine. I'll be replacing the battery ASAP.
this happend to me on CM7 and MIUI twice and the first time i just flashed off of CM7 and it stooped and on MIUI i just rebooted the phone while connected to the charger then when it was completely booted up i unplugged it and it was fine after that but that time it was caused by letting my battery die down and then i kept booting up my phone to completely deplete the battery and did this about 20 times and it wouldn't die so i just changed out batteries and when i booted and it would immediately power down like the battery was dead so thats when i plugged it in and powered on and it worked, and i know its not the battery because i have 4 batteries
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this happend to me on CM7 and MIUI twice and the first time i just flashed off of CM7 and it stooped and on MIUI i just rebooted the phone while connected to the charger then when it was completely booted up i unplugged it and it was fine after that but that time it was caused by letting my battery die down and then i kept booting up my phone to completely deplete the battery and did this about 20 times and it wouldn't die so i just changed out batteries and when i booted and it would immediately power down like the battery was dead so thats when i plugged it in and powered on and it worked, and i know its not the battery because i have 4 batteries
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Ok then, you "know" it's not the battery - so what is your speculation? Until I get the spare batteries I ordered today, I won't be able to fully test the battery theory. I can only say with certainty that the phone doesn't shutdown while plugged in.
I could also go along with another theory - The Thunderbolt got a recent OTA update that makes them randomly shutdown. Is it possible that a piece of that code made it into the new Gingerbread ROMs? I didn't note the issue running CoreDroid 6.4 (a GB build but the last to use EXT3 instead of EXT4 and was also released before the TB OTA update), but only after upgrading to 6.5. Could it be some finicky problem with EXT4?
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Could it be some finicky problem with EXT4?
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Actually, forget this part. I forgot I used HoneySense 4.0 with EXT3 & still had the random shutdown problem.
with it plugged in do a nandroid backup and then restore to stock then restore back with only restoring system and data
I know its not the battery because it will stay in CWM for several minutes and much longer than it does on without any random shutdowns. Going to try the return to stock and reflash method and post back.
Ok, so that I get this right, the test plan is to: flash back to stock, re-root & then reflash to a new ROM such as Coredroid 6.8? If that's what one of you are going to do, then I'll do it also so we can see if we get the same results.
Well, I actually downgraded to RUU_Ace_Cingular_US_1.80.502.3_Radio_12.39.60.19_26.06.04.06_M_release_166557_signed, went through Bubby's One Click and the damned phone shutdown upon boot to the first image of Bubby's. I figured MAYBE something was wrong with Bubby's One Click as I had originally used the ACE hack kit.
I reverted back to RUU_Ace_Cingular_US_1.80.502.3_Radio_12.39.60.19_26.06.04.06_M_release_166557_signed again & decided to use it for a minute to see if it shutdown and it DID!
There is either (A) a problem with my battery or (B) a problem with the charging system on my phone. This IS NOT a firmware/radio issue! It may be different for you, but I'm positive about my phone now. I'm going to wait until my new batteries come in on Wednesday and if it acts the same, I'll be replacing my phone under warranty. I should also note - I've never overclocked this phone, so I don't want anyone fear-mongering the N00BS about "see what overclocking will get you"!
Does yours stay on when its plugged in?
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Does yours stay on when its plugged in?
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Yes. I noticed the shutdowns started about 1½ to 2 weeks ago. It got more frequent as time went on. The phone is practically unusable now unless I leave it plugged in. I suspect that if it is indeed the battery, it may even start shutting down when plugged in since the phone will turn off if you remove the battery when it's plugged in. Just a hunch.
same exact story here totally bummed right now but at least i work for at&t so getting anew battery shouldnt be an issue. still a huge pain in my ass
samftw said:
same exact story here totally bummed right now but at least i work for at&t so getting anew battery shouldnt be an issue. still a huge pain in my ass
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Well, bummer dude. I called AT&T and they said that the battery was covered under warranty & they'd be happy to send me one right out. The only problem was that they didn't have any in stock! They offered to credit my account with whatever I have to spend on replacing the battery myself. When I get the 2 batteries from Amazon & make sure they work, I'll get the credit for them applied to my account. It was only $25 for 2 batteries & charger shipped.
I called my local AT&T Corp stores to see if they had any batteries for the Inspire & they didn't either. Me thinks this widespread shortage of batteries could be indicative of a bigger problem.
WoW! Here's the feel-good part of this story....
As I posted earlier, AT&T service didn't have the battery to send me. I couldn't find a battery anywhere - I called the 2 AT&T Corp strores, BestBuy and Batteries +.
I went to the AT&T Corp store where I bought the phone & signed in for help. The girl came over to help as I was explaining to her what was happening & telling her that I wanted to take the battery out of her demo phone to make sure it was the battery. If it wasn't, then I could call service back & have them ship me a repalcement phone instead of having to wait until the batteries I ordered off of Amazon arrived.
She told me that she didn't want me to mess her floor phone up & offered to go in the back & get a phone to test with. She came back with a new battery still in the plastic. I popped it in and sure enough, it has been the battery! I told her thanks and that I felt a lot better knowing that it was indeed the battery.
She insisted that I keep the new battery since there were none to be found & she would "adjust" the phone she took the new battery from. I assume "adjust" is speak for "send it back as defective". I'm really positive about the whole experience, especially since she didn't have to do that at all. You can bet I'll be going back to that Corp store & buying from that rep when I'm ready to get my Samsung Galaxy S II!
I'm having the same problem I don't know why it's doing this
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King Askaba said:
I'm having the same problem I don't know why it's doing this
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Uh...did you read ANY of the thread or just post a reply? It seems rather obvious that there's a battery problem. Maybe you could do some of the same or similar testing we did to see if you have similar results?
The only thing I didn't say in all of this is that I got my phone on 2/14/11. So I've had it almost exactly 4 months before the problem really came up.
A few hours ago my girlfriend was just looking at her Triumph (was watching for messages so she wasn't actually doing anything on it) when the screen turned off. Now it wont turn back on. Have tried the power button, turning on the bootloader, and removing the battery for 5 minutes. No matter what we can't get the phone to turn back on. Any ideas on what has just happened? The phone is rooted with gingerbreak with titanium backup installed. That's it. We got the phone at Best Buy and this is our second phone. We're probably past our 30 days so this kind of bugs me! Any idea what we can do from here? Any other tricks to try?
As a quick update, Best Buy tells me that an Exchange counts as an original transaction. So I'm only 17 days into my "new" transaction. I can't believe neither of these Triumphs have lasted more than three weeks :\
Did you have it connected to the charger while using it? I have noticed it gets very hot even without the charger being plugged in. It may have over heated. Just a thought. Good luck. Let us know what happens.
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No, the charger wasn't connected at the time. It was just sitting there with the screen on. The Significant Other wonder why it wouldn't turn off so she hit the power button and it didn't do anything. Finally the screen just went black but the backlight was still obviously on so she pulled the battery and put it back in. From there, she pushed the power button and the virgin mobile logo came on and nothing else. She had to remove the battery again. She put the battery back in once more and was able to get the Virgin mobile logo one more time. It froze after the logo and she pulled the battery one more time. After that the phone refused to turn on at all. When connected to the charger it doesn't do anything. Still completely lights out on the phone.
Man that sucks. I hope your able to find a fix.
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Same thing happened to me the other day. I let my Triumph lose all its battery to charge it back up 100% (performing a full battery charge cycle), and it will no longer turn on. even when I have it plugged in the red light indicator will not light up most of the time.
Funny thing is, this is also my second exchange from best buy and luckily im still within 30 days and i have a replacement plan. I really suggest getting the replacement plan (its $30, good for a $300 phone), because unlike best buys other mobile protection plans, you dont pay monthly, you're covered for 2 years, and if you get tired of getting the same phone, they will give you a $300 store credit card.
You know my phone did something similar, my phone died and when i went to plug up the charger i got nothing. I think there might be something wrong with the charging ports on these phones, try wiggling the charger while its plugged in, thats what i did and it finally took a charge
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You know my phone did something similar, my phone died and when i went to plug up the charger i got nothing. I think there might be something wrong with the charging ports on these phones, try wiggling the charger while its plugged in, thats what i did and it finally took a charge
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upon closer inspection of the charging port, i noticed the female micro usb port was actually pushed further inside, thus preventing most chargers to work. I found a rocketfish charging adapter from best buy that seems to work perfect while my other cable didnt work at all.
As an update, we went back to best buy and sure enough they count the exchange as a new transaction, so I was only 17 days into my second transaction. They exchanged me another phone on the spot and so now we're on the third triumph. GPS checked out ok and the MEID was the correct length. The screen is the worst of the 3 (some pretty bad backlight bleed out onto the screen itself from the sides). I was picky about it but the gf isn't since you can't even see it unless the screen is completely black. So we'll see how this one holds out!
My guess is as was assumed, the battery wasn't getting charged. When the battery was removed for 30 minutes or more we were able to get the logo to show up and nothing more. My guess was the charger wasn't making contact anymore. We wouldn't want to keep a phone like that anyways but it seems like this might be a problem for these phones.
Every once in awhile mine will not power back on. It happened to me a couple of times shortly after I bought the phone.
I tried pulling the battery a couple of times and powering back up, no go.
What worked... remove battery, press power button for a couple of secs, replace battery, power back up. Has worked every time... so far.
My guess is need to drain some capacitors or that I had invoked part of boot recovery sequence without finishing?
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upon closer inspection of the charging port, i noticed the female micro usb port was actually pushed further inside, thus preventing most chargers to work. I found a rocketfish charging adapter from best buy that seems to work perfect while my other cable didnt work at all.
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Have you noticed the "I just broke my Triumph's Screen"- post? We'll If you saw my cracked Triumph, well that's another issue that I just discovered. The battery drained all the way and now it will not take a charge anymore. This is the exact same problem OP is having. Regarding this issue I will open up my phone sooner or later when I get a new one and take pics. I don't mind seeing wth is in there, maybe everything's held up by Elmer's glue lol. I'll make sure to let everyone know hopefully I'll do this within a couple days.
It seems like dead
If Motorola and VMUSA are not serious about resolving issues for Triumph then this phone will be dead anyways - customers won't be buying those. The number of returns are far more than new purchase. It seems like Motorola stopped manufacturing these.
So this phone will either get Ice Cream Sandwich update or it is end of life for this phone.
Hi guys,
I recently ran into this problem after I woke one morning to my alarm clock blaring for about half an hour, the phone was pretty hot but not unbearably hot. I took out the battery and left the phone to cool down til trying to boot again, when I did the phone booted fine but it soon shut off again 5-10 seconds into loading into android. I assumed the heat knocked the charge out of the battery / something went wrong with the reading of the battery (as it read like 85%) so I just plugged it into the charger and left til it said it was full. It doesn't shut off by itself and works fine while on the charger regardless. But as soon as I unplug the phone dies within a few seconds. So I turned off the phone and let it charge overnight, woke again to the same issue and the battery reading 85% again. Before I booted back up though I tried the "Wipe Battery Stats" thing in CWM hoping that maybe it would fix it after I fully charged but it made no difference. Also I found that the phone is able to run off the charger when I severely underclock it to 250MHz but obviously it's too damn slow for every day use at that speed. As soon as I clocked it up to 480MHz it had the same issue again. I forgot to mention I was rooted with CWM, unlocked bootloader and on stock rom. After this I decided to revert to my pre-root back up rom from CWM and I still had the same issue.
The final thing that seems to make it work is removing the sim, I tried booting this morning without sim and the phone functions flawlessly even while under a heavy stress test without turning off. So I tried inserting another sim, this one not active. Issues start up again...
Any Ideas guys? Seems to me like if the phone is pulling "too much power" the phone auto shuts itself off. But then the SIM thing perplexes me, not really sure how it all affects.
Lastly, do you think I can still claim on my warranty? I've had this phone for just under a month and it's still in perfect condition... I really don't want to switch back to my chopped and screwed Motorola Flipout. But atleast that thing could handle the overheating pretty damn well. Also I didn't get this on contract I bought it outright from a reseller as a prepaid phone.
In the Netherlands, the warranty for a phone battery is set to six months by law, just contact HTC, and find out.
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Hello All!
Three days ago I updated my GS3 to JB 4.1.1. I also ODIN'd TWRP onto my phone as a recovery and loaded SuperSU with an unlocked bootloader onto my phone along with BusyBox. I fell in love with my phone again as JB ran smoothly and I was even able to use Wallet Installer to get Google Wallet onto my phone. However, tonight, my phone seemed to experience a case of Sudden Death Syndrome. A common issue found by googling why my phone's failure to respond to boot commands and power commands.
It will not respond to attempts to boot into ODIN mode, my TWRP recovery and the only sign of life on my phone is a solid red LCD that lights up only if I remove the battery and leave the device plugged into a wall charger. Once I try to reinsert the battery, however, the LCD goes away and the phone once again turns into a coffee coaster. It's taking a lot of strength not to throw it against the wall. (I picked the worst week to quit smoking.)
I don't believe I hardbricked the device because three hours ago at the time of this post, I went to sleep and the phone was working and I was able to send and receive messages. I believe that rooting my phone actually made it even more stable than normal. I just can't believe my phone could just suddenly die. Could it be another case of Sudden Death Syndrome? (Corrupted NAND?) I bought this phone in August and many cases of SDS for the GSIII seem to occur within 150-200 days of activation, which would put me in that window. If I answered my own questions, please feel free to tell me. I'm just trying to explore all options as an exasperated user dealing with what seems frustration after frustration and the one release I have from that stress just **** a brick.
I am covered by Asurion Insurance (and if the crack on my screen will not be enough I plan on running it over with my car for good measure to get my money's worth) but I really do not want to have to file an insurance claim unless it is absolutely necessary.
Phone died just last night 12/29/12. The battery was running down, then beeped once like a warning to charge it. Plugged into the charger and no light whatsoever! The battery icon would come on for a second and then nothing. Left it on the charger over night. Nothing. No red charging light, no boot. Pulled the battery and re-plugged into charger. Same charging icon on screen but nothing else. Tried every combination of removing battery, sim card, memory card, and plugging it in to the charger and still won't boot. Tried a different charger and also my laptop. Nothing. The S3 is a USA Verizon variant. 16gb. Black. I guess it's off to Verizon this morning to get a new phone. Phone is only 45 days old!!!
You could try leaving it on the charger for a couple hours then booting into recovery and reflashing your rom. I've seen a couple instances reported on xda where the battery simply just gave up below 23% and refused to turn back on.
Edit: example, not even a couple weeks old...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056539
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If it is a case of "sds" Samsung will replace the board for free.
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If it is a case of "sds" Samsung will replace the board for free.
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Only reports of SDS in the 150-200 day time frame that I saw was with the International Version and it is completely different motherboard.
What do you kids do to your phone? How old are you? I'm going to start a survey. Age please?
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Update: Brought the S3 into Verizon. They pulled the battery (Like I did a few times!) and somehow got it working again!! FM ! Phone reboots and turns off and then back on. BUT..... if you turn it completely OFF and plug it in to charge then the same as I mentioned happens again. STRANGE. The only way to get it to reboot is to pull the battery and keep it out for about 30 seconds. Put the battery back in and it'll reboot again!!!! Is it me or is this a strange quirk???? The previous times I pulled the battery it was out then back in. This time I took it out, waited 30 seconds and VOILA! It works. Thought you might like an update. Verizon S3 bought on 11/17/12. Rooted and not oc/uc'd. Using Clean Rom 5.5.1
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Only reports of SDS in the 150-200 day time frame that I saw was with the International Version and it is completely different motherboard.
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That's good news..thanks for the correction.
My phone had 50% Battery then i forgot about it so when i got to it its dead
i plugged it into the charger and the red notification light was flashing
i let it charge overnight and its okay but then i let it sit for an hour on my desk without using it then the back of the phone comes hot and the battery drains pretty quick
Whats wrong
Definately battery issue, if you aren't all stock ruu back to stock if same issue id return for warranty.
Agreed, it's a battery issue. I have had my hoxl and hox replaced a total of 7 times(bad luck)... And that happened with one of mine, after a bit of the red flashing it rapidly flashed a bunch and went into "emergency battery mode" and never came back on. Got the phone replacement sent to me in Japan within 5 days and didn't bother trying to get the original rom back on the original phone cause it wouldn't even turn on... Bit off topic but just wanted to let you know personal experience... Long story short, copy everything off and replace it before it's too late.
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try doing a factory reset