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Can Droid pad keep up with IPAD 3?

The new release of IPAD3 will hit Verizon and ATT on March 16, equipped with 4G+Wifi and non 4G. It's the fact that apple A5X chip (quad core) is 4 time faster that droid tegra 3, higher resolution (2048 x 1536 ipad vs Asus transformer 700series 1920 x 1200, which suppose to release around June, 2012). Together with the high end hardware, apple also boost their software with amazing video editor, autodesk (hand draw graphic design), camera editing software and namco games designed just for Ipad...I'm a droid fan but I just have to admit, Apple is one of warrior that we may NOT able to beat...I'm thinking of pick one up, the one without 4G (extra $30 a month) and use my charge for 4g tethering every time I'm on the road.

You fell for Apple's use of fancy words. The A5X chip is a dual core cpu with a quad core gpu. Yes, you get no more CPU performance, just more graphics performance, which almost nothing takes advantage of fully now with the A5. Besides the updated screen and new software, there is really nothing spectacular about the new iPad. Just like the iPhone 4S update, it's a few minor spec bumps that Apple marketing (they are a marketing company that just happens to also sell stuff) made sound like the latest and greatest technology. Wait until other manufacturers get a chance to actually start using the new and upcoming quad-core SoCs
It's also not a Droid Tegra 3 or Droid pad. It is a Tegra 3 processor, which can be used by anyone on any platform, and Android Tablets. The Tegra 3 is actually a quad core cpu with 12 core gpu (technically 5 core cpu), and who knows how it will benchmark against Apple's chip, since Apple didn't release any firm details about how the new A5X benchmarked higher than the Tegra 3, or how much higher, or if it was a production Tegra 3 chip.
Personally, I would wait to see what Samsung comes up with this summer/fall to counter it, and even if they don't have anything, I would still take a GalaxyTab 7.7 over an iPad any day of the week.

imnuts said:
You fell for Apple's use of fancy words. The A5X chip is a dual core cpu with a quad core gpu. Yes, you get no more CPU performance, just more graphics performance, which almost nothing takes advantage of fully now with the A5. Besides the updated screen and new software, there is really nothing spectacular about the new iPad. Just like the iPhone 4S update, it's a few minor spec bumps that Apple marketing (they are a marketing company that just happens to also sell stuff) made sound like the latest and greatest technology. Wait until other manufacturers get a chance to actually start using the new and upcoming quad-core SoCs
It's also not a Droid Tegra 3 or Droid pad. It is a Tegra 3 processor, which can be used by anyone on any platform, and Android Tablets. The Tegra 3 is actually a quad core cpu with 12 core gpu (technically 5 core cpu), and who knows how it will benchmark against Apple's chip, since Apple didn't release any firm details about how the new A5X benchmarked higher than the Tegra 3, or how much higher, or if it was a production Tegra 3 chip.
Personally, I would wait to see what Samsung comes up with this summer/fall to counter it, and even if they don't have anything, I would still take a GalaxyTab 7.7 over an iPad any day of the week.
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Yea ***** what he said!....no offense buhohitr
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Yea ***** what he said!....no offense buhohitr
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Non taken, I'm here for a nice hobby and for fun....that's all.

Question: are you a Droid fan or Android fan?
Anyway,not much more to say than what Imnuts said. The thing is, the iPad 2's A5 chip proved to beat Tegra 3 in a series of benchmarks, though T3 was running on Honeycomb(and they were offscreen benchmarks). I wonder if the results would have been different if T3 was running on ICS.
What I'm very curious to see is Samsung's offering(higher resolution screen and quad core Exynos). Maybe even with bone stock ICS. That would be my dream tablet
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I have friends who are diehard apple fanboys and even they say they're not getting it because its "pretty much the same as the 2"... a lot of people are starting to catch on to what Imnuts said about marketing gimmicks and releasing old tech as "revolutionary"
that said I also agree that I'll be waiting for the next quad core beast from Asus ($200 Google Nexus tablet anyone?) or maybe Samsung but I don't want their ugly ass bloated touchwiz over ICS
p.s. the only good thing I could see being brought about by this 3rd iPad would be hopefully display manufacturers will see that its possible to make higher-than-1080p displays for a reasonable price... also LOL at them for including what is basically a laptop capacity battery in it, and I doubt it would really get 10 hours on 4G
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It still isn't worth getting one if the OS is just a magnified iPhone OS (like it can't do anything new compared to the iPhone 4s)

imnuts said:
You fell for Apple's use of fancy words. The A5X chip is a dual core cpu with a quad core gpu. Yes, you get no more CPU performance, just more graphics performance, which almost nothing takes advantage of fully now with the A5. Besides the updated screen and new software, there is really nothing spectacular about the new iPad. Just like the iPhone 4S update, it's a few minor spec bumps that Apple marketing (they are a marketing company that just happens to also sell stuff) made sound like the latest and greatest technology. Wait until other manufacturers get a chance to actually start using the new and upcoming quad-core SoCs
It's also not a Droid Tegra 3 or Droid pad. It is a Tegra 3 processor, which can be used by anyone on any platform, and Android Tablets. The Tegra 3 is actually a quad core cpu with 12 core gpu (technically 5 core cpu), and who knows how it will benchmark against Apple's chip, since Apple didn't release any firm details about how the new A5X benchmarked higher than the Tegra 3, or how much higher, or if it was a production Tegra 3 chip.
Personally, I would wait to see what Samsung comes up with this summer/fall to counter it, and even if they don't have anything, I would still take a GalaxyTab 7.7 over an iPad any day of the week.
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Uh... no. iOS is GPU accelerated. Its interface and UI relies heavily on the GPU, much more so than Android. The stronger the GPU, for example, the less checkerboarding you experience when scrolling webpages. Of course this is more than negated by 4x the pixels, so day to day performance may not be as good as on the iPad 2.
In Anand's testing they found the iPad 2's GPU to be about 30% faster on average than the Tegra 3. Apple's 2x claim is probably based on a specific test that targets one of Tegra's numerous weaknesses. That said, the iPad 3 uses the same GPU as the PS VITA (albeit without the dedicated VRAM and to-the-metal programming). It's a beast. The same goes for that hi-res screen, which won't be surpassed by a shipping product for a year at least.

Apple claimed that in order to support such a super high resolution display, the A5X graphic chip is the key. But..what ever, Nvidia is going to bench mark the A5X and their Tegra 3...the true will reveal. I may add if indeed Tegra3 is faster, I'm a very happy guy, cause I have my eyes on the coming Asus Transformer 700 due to release sometime in June 2012. Beside the hardware, Apple also released 5 killer apps; video editor(amazing photo editor and movie maker), autodesk(free hand graphic design), 2 new games from Namco and Epic, icloud garage band where 4 people (drumer,guitar,keyboard,bass) can play the same song over the internet.
http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/123pibhargjknawdconwecown/event/index.html

buhohitr said:
Apple claimed that in order to support such a super high resolution display, the A5X graphic chip is the key. But..what ever, Nvidia is going to bench mark the A5X and their Tegra 3...the true will reveal. I may add if indeed Tegra3 is faster, I'm a very happy guy, cause I have my eyes on the coming Asus Transformer 700 due to release sometime in June 2012. Beside the hardware, Apple also released 5 killer apps; video editor(amazing photo editor and movie maker), autodesk(free hand graphic design), 2 new games from Namco and Epic, icloud garage band where 4 people (drumer,guitar,keyboard,bass) can play the same song over the internet.
http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/123pibhargjknawdconwecown/event/index.html
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iCloud seems very similar to Google's cloud services.
As for Autodesk, doesn't that company have an app(or apps) for android as well? Both OS systems have Photoshop Touch, which seems like a great photo editing tools in its own right.
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DirgeExtinction said:
iCloud seems very similar to Google's cloud services.
As for Autodesk, doesn't that company have an app(or apps) for android as well? Both OS systems have Photoshop Touch, which seems like a great photo editing tools in its own right.
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Obviously, you haven't read the link for apple event. We're not talking about photoshop and Autodesk for ipad3 is not same as android. Sure google has gcloud, but here we're talking about using the cloud to play music as a band using Ipad3 as music instrument. Click on the link and find out more....

ambrar12 said:
Uh... no. iOS is GPU accelerated. Its interface and UI relies heavily on the GPU, much more so than Android. The stronger the GPU, for example, the less checkerboarding you experience when scrolling webpages. Of course this is more than negated by 4x the pixels, so day to day performance may not be as good as on the iPad 2.
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The UI is no more or less accelerated now with ICS for Android from what I've read. The only stuff left in Android that isn't GPU driven isn't going to tax the CPU to render it. The only reason that the added GPU power will be needed is the high resolution, which is pointless IMO. Why get a higher resolution other than to brag about it? You think Samsung/LG/etc. couldn't make a higher resolution display if they wanted to? They're sticking to 1080p/720p because it's a standard resolution and you won't be powering unnecessary pixels if you don't have to, which you will be doing on that display when watching HD videos. Either way, I give it 3-4 months before someone displays a better product, if not sooner. No one has any idea how the OMAP5 really performs, or the quad-core Exynos chips, and if anyone will best the A5X, those are probably the best candidates.

buhohitr said:
Obviously, you haven't read the link for apple event. We're not talking about photoshop and Autodesk for ipad3 is not same as android. Sure google has gcloud, but here we're talking about using the cloud to play music as a band using Ipad3 as music instrument. Click on the link and find out more....
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Playing music as a band using the iPad 3 using "the cloud"(which pretty much means using the iPad's LTE modem) sounds like what multiplayer games on iOS and Android do.
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Ugh iPad is only quicker cause it's less complex OS
Android will always be light years ahead of apple in technological advances it has usb plug ins since atrix and honeycomb
Apple is far more interested in marketing than creating the best device as long as they can keep u buying everything thru their e-stores they will be happy
I have an iPad 2 and tegra devices will ALWAYS have more features and a faster platform nuff said
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imnuts said:
I would still take a GalaxyTab 7.7 over an iPad any day of the week.
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The display on the Galaxy Tab 7.7 is gorgeous. Also, I have some Apple fanboy coworkers who admit that having a 7" iPad would be awesome, and that typing/holding an iPad can be cumbersome.
Oh iPad, you are so revolutionary.
Side rant: I love how Apple upgraded the cameras on the iPad3 and acted like it's a big deal. Cameras... on a tablet.. Who in the **** uses their tablet's cameras that often to warrant a hardware upgrade? The cameras were fine! How about updating the damn OS.
Don't get me started on Siri. Aimbot, anyone?

OK, for better comparison, let just comparing ONLY 4G device; Ipad3 clearly the winner here over any android tablet currently on the Market. Let's not even talk about the future, because it's endless and mute discussion.
People are so offensive when ever we talk about the "competitor". Like 'Ipad3 has the highest screen resolution", Oh that's not needed, it's not make that much of different. Come on admitted, they do have higher resolution than any other device out there. Sometime, we should hold back our egos and watch and listen, we may learn something new. I'm an Android fan, but sometime the competitor is better and I will admit they're better and sometime when Android is better, we should be proud. Only kids bashing other kids.

buhohitr said:
OK, for better comparison, let just comparing ONLY 4G device; Ipad3 clearly the winner here over any android tablet currently on the Market. Let's not even talk about the future, because it's endless and mute discussion.
People are so offensive when ever we talk about the "competitor". Like 'Ipad3 has the highest screen resolution", Oh that's not needed, it's not make that much of different. Come on admitted, they do have higher resolution than any other device out there. Sometime, we should hold back our egos and watch and listen, we may learn something new. I'm an Android fan, but sometime the competitor is better and I will admit they're better and sometime when Android is better, we should be proud. Only kids bashing other kids.
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I agree. Having competition is good for Google. I have recently changed my view of IOS devices, and I'd have no problem getting an IP3 ..(if it were free and Jail broken.)

letsgophillyingeneral said:
Side rant: I love how Apple upgraded the cameras on the iPad3 and acted like it's a big deal. Cameras... on a tablet.. Who in the **** uses their tablet's cameras that often to warrant a hardware upgrade? The cameras were fine! How about updating the damn OS.
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The FFC is still the same VGA camera that was on the iPad2, they only upgraded the rear camera.
buhohitr said:
OK, for better comparison, let just comparing ONLY 4G device; Ipad3 clearly the winner here over any android tablet currently on the Market. Let's not even talk about the future, because it's endless and mute discussion.
People are so offensive when ever we talk about the "competitor". Like 'Ipad3 has the highest screen resolution", Oh that's not needed, it's not make that much of different. Come on admitted, they do have higher resolution than any other device out there. Sometime, we should hold back our egos and watch and listen, we may learn something new. I'm an Android fan, but sometime the competitor is better and I will admit they're better and sometime when Android is better, we should be proud. Only kids bashing other kids.
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I would still take the GalaxyTab 7.7. And yes, it has a higher screen resolution, but how is it useful? The only good thing about that high resolution is that you could see pictures without zooming in as much. The more screen real estate you're getting, it's going to take developers a while to take advantage of it because it is such a huge increase. It's pointless for movies and videos, when is the last time you saw a movie with a resolution greater than 1080p? For video viewing, you have wasted screen space. I'm sure the display looks great, but until we actually have videos that are >1080i/p, I don't see a reason to have a higher resolution display.

imnuts said:
The FFC is still the same VGA camera that was on the iPad2, they only upgraded the rear camera.
I would still take the GalaxyTab 7.7. And yes, it has a higher screen resolution, but how is it useful? The only good thing about that high resolution is that you could see pictures without zooming in as much. The more screen real estate you're getting, it's going to take developers a while to take advantage of it because it is such a huge increase. It's pointless for movies and videos, when is the last time you saw a movie with a resolution greater than 1080p? For video viewing, you have wasted screen space. I'm sure the display looks great, but until we actually have videos that are >1080i/p, I don't see a reason to have a higher resolution display.
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Higher resolution is great for gaming!

Ipad 3 is amazing but dont android OS my favorite tablet samsung asus vs.!

iPhone 5 Predictions

Do Yours!!
1920 x 1280 4.1" Proprietary Super PLS 13 Point Multi Touch Screen
Apple A5X Asynchronous Dualcore Arm Cortex A9 @ 1.4GHz + PowerVR SGX 543MP4
1024 MB Dual-channel 533 MHz LPDDR3 Random Access Memory
Thats It For Now

I think it'll be an A6 processor.
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Just under hd resolution (720p) is a rumor I heard. 4inch screen aluminum back. A millimeter thinner or two. I think the design will be similair to the 4/4S..flat sides like a block. I don't think it will be a quad core processor. I think the camera will be the same too since they already did that upgrade. And I'm assuming your ridiculously specific specs were meant to be a joke.

1920x1280 is that even a viable resolution? It sounds like you combined the first numbers from 1080p and 720p

xlxcrossing said:
1920x1280 is that even a viable resolution? It sounds like you combined the first numbers from 1080p and 720p
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Lalalala
1st Gen 480 x 320
Lolololo
2nd Gen 960 x 640
Lelelele
3rd Gen 1920 x 1280

xlxcrossing said:
Just under hd resolution (720p) is a rumor I heard. 4inch screen aluminum back. A millimeter thinner or two. I think the design will be similair to the 4/4S..flat sides like a block. I don't think it will be a quad core processor. I think the camera will be the same too since they already did that upgrade. And I'm assuming your ridiculously specific specs were meant to be a joke.
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No No No
I Always Get It Right
Hmm, I Think I'll Change The Ram Bus To 800MHz

Lizman said:
No No No
I Always Get It Right
Hmm, I Think I'll Change The Ram Bus To 800MHz
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As if apple would innovate. Nope, like always they'll stick with the old, slap a shiny new sticker on it and call it innovation. Expect something a little better than the 4s, which is to say, not very good.
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Iphone 5 predictions
Many sources are talking about a change in the screen dimensions, resolution comes later. and most of the reports are talking about a screen with the similar width as its predecessor but with greater height. a metal back that forms a shape similar to that in HTC HD2's backside.
until this moment all i mentioned are just rumors.

jdeoxys said:
As if apple would innovate. Nope, like always they'll stick with the old, slap a shiny new sticker on it and call it innovation. Expect something a little better than the 4s, which is to say, not very good.
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Ah
But They Innovated With Alot Of Things (Screen, Build, Touschcreen, etc)
And Double The Graphics Of The iPhone 4S = Monstrous = XBOX + NDS GFX

I Just Realised That 1440 x 960 Is Quite A Possibility Aswell
Though The Full HD+ Would Make More Sense For Apple In The Long Run

There are already a few videos and pics online of the leaked iPhone 5 parts. How true the final design will stay is to be seen.
But so far the two tone aluminum design looks sexy. It's thinner than 4s also supposedly.
Screen dimensions are going to be weird. It's a lot taller screen with around the same width, possibly new sim card dimensions also. Don't expect the resolution dpi to be any lower than the current retina display, apple is pushing towards extremely high resolutions on all their products.
As for the driving force. If it comes in fall October expect a smaller fabrication process core and maybe an a15 setup or hybrid like krait. Gpu will be top notch powervr sgx as usual, the fastest of the bunch. Ram will probably stay at 1gb, iOS really dowsnt need much anyway.
Camera inrpovements are a toss up, but id expect better low light
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pewpewbangbang said:
There are already a few videos and pics online of the leaked iPhone 5 parts. How true the final design will stay is to be seen.
But so far the two tone aluminum design looks sexy. It's thinner than 4s also supposedly.
Screen dimensions are going to be weird. It's a lot taller screen with around the same width, possibly new sim card dimensions also. Don't expect the resolution dpi to be any lower than the current retina display, apple is pushing towards extremely high resolutions on all their products.
As for the driving force. If it comes in fall October expect a smaller fabrication process core and maybe an a15 setup or hybrid like krait. Gpu will be top notch powervr sgx as usual, the fastest of the bunch. Ram will probably stay at 1gb, iOS really dowsnt need much anyway.
Camera inrpovements are a toss up, but id expect better low light
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Hm Yeah
I Suppose I Should Have Thought Of The A15
That Would Make My Original Prediction Alter To A15 @ 900MHz
And The RAM Is Doubling Not Staying As It Is. The 4S Has 512MB RAM

And I Highly Doubt That The Simcard Will Change Again
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- Retina Display for 4" screen with at least 326 DPI.
- Apple A6 Quad core chip.
- 1GB RAM.
- New Design.
- Ships with iOS6.
- 12mp Camera, or just 8mp worth an improved lens.
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Well we know its going to get a four inch screen and apparently ios 6 will have widgets in the form of "live icons" so its possible new iphone will use a basic form of widgets to fill up the larger resolution screen.
But knowing apple they will probably stick nfc and a larger screen on new iphone and leave anything else for an iphone 5S.
And all those iphone users who say that 3.5 inches is the perfect size display will convert overnight and 4 inches will now be the perfect screen size.
Dave
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If they copy widgets, they will have no right to be suing Samsung or Google.
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Like the OP said, i think it will have 3000x4000 res, A7, iOS 14 and 4GB Ram. I don't wanna mention the dpi maaan, it will be somethin like 587 dpi..... amazing machine that will be ......

Gotta say I'm not overly concerned WHAT it turns out to be. I don't ever wanna lock myself into the Apple OS/iTunes system again.
Best phone related decision ever was to jump ship and get an Android phone.

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My Design for the "Nexus 4"

I'm a big fan of the One S, and think that it would be great hardware, when tweaked a bit, for a more "casual" Nexus that could actually compete with the iPhone. Due to the moniker, Nexus 7, it would be called the Nexus 4.
Changes from One S to Nexus 4:
Keep 4.3" screen size, but with One X quality. Higher brightness and > 300ppi.
Cut off the hardware buttons to reduce the vertical size and weight of the phone.
Bump ram to 2GB.
Pure Google
So what do you think? Any changes? Do you think it's a good idea? Could you see a large casual market adopting this phone in a similar way to the iPhone?
Here's a quick mockup: Nexus 4

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I'm a big fan of the One S, and think that it would be great hardware, when tweaked a bit, for a more "casual" Nexus that could actually compete with the iPhone. Due to the moniker, Nexus 7, it would be called the Nexus 4.
Changes from One S to Nexus 4:
Keep 4.3" screen size, but with One X quality. Higher brightness and > 300ppi.
Cut off the hardware buttons to reduce the vertical size and weight of the phone.
Bump ram to 2GB.
Pure Google
So what do you think? Any changes? Do you think it's a good idea? Could you see a large casual market adopting this phone in a similar way to the iPhone?
Here's a quick mockup: Nexus 4
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The Design of the One S is amazing and would not change it too much, maybe a slight change to the backing so it doesnt slip of the hand. Screen Size 4.3" to 4.5". Removable battery and edge to edge display.

Yeah would be nice, but without the hardware buttons it looks a little bit ****ty.
If I helped in any way please hit thanks

thanamesjames said:
I'm a big fan of the One S, and think that it would be great hardware, when tweaked a bit, for a more "casual" Nexus that could actually compete with the iPhone. Due to the moniker, Nexus 7, it would be called the Nexus 4.
Changes from One S to Nexus 4:
Keep 4.3" screen size, but with One X quality. Higher brightness and > 300ppi.
Cut off the hardware buttons to reduce the vertical size and weight of the phone.
Bump ram to 2GB.
Pure Google
So what do you think? Any changes? Do you think it's a good idea? Could you see a large casual market adopting this phone in a similar way to the iPhone?
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Add a good notification led (the one on the One S sucks) that's compatible with light flow and I'd get one!
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Thanks God it just a your design man
DualCore is too old.
We need:
Chipset: Qualcomm MDM9615/APQ8064
CPU: Quad-core 1.5 GHz Krait
GPU: Adreno 320
F*** the "LG"
But check the damn performance of new S4 PRO:
1:30

Meh, what sort of flagship device would have a mid range phone screen size? Or better yet, why would they downgrade from the Galaxy Nexus?

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Meh, what sort of flagship device would have a mid range phone screen size? Or better yet, why would they downgrade from the Galaxy Nexus?
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If they keep going for bigger screens, then the nexus 8 will be a tablet

r0man.de said:
If they keep going for bigger screens, then the nexus 8 will be a tablet
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Yes, 4.3 to 4.5 max for a phone for me, have no qualms with screen size of HOS.
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avetny said:
Thanks God it just a your design man
DualCore is too old.
We need:
Chipset: Qualcomm MDM9615/APQ8064
CPU: Quad-core 1.5 GHz Krait
GPU: Adreno 320
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What, noo, we neeeeed 6 Core everything other is just way too old, because everyone knows 2 cores in a phone just isn't enough and every app uses at least 4 Cores!!!!!!! 5GHz has to be, anything else won't bring me to the top of the bench!! Has no real world needs, but who cared, SPECS!!!!!!

Trying to make it as realistic as possible whilst also powerful:
1.5GHz quad-core Qualcomm APQ8064
Adreno 320 GPU
4.7", 720p Super AMOLED HD (non-pentile), manufactured by Sharp
1.5GB RAM
12MP Camera with burst-shot function
On-screen buttons
32GB Storage, no SD card slot
25GB Dropbox space

usaff22 said:
Trying to make it as realistic as possible whilst also powerful:
1.5GHz quad-core Qualcomm APQ8064
Adreno 320 GPU
4.7", 720p Super AMOLED HD (non-pentile), manufactured by Sharp
1.5GB RAM
12MP Camera with burst-shot function
On-screen buttons
32GB Storage, no SD card slot
25GB Dropbox space
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THIS.

Frustrated with screen sizes on premium phones, back to Apple...

Hi xda,
I have small hands. I have largish hands for a female, but still too small to reach the upper left corner of my Nexus 4's screen when using it with one hand. Very annoying, since many important controls reside there; I often end up dropping the phone if I try to reach them.
It annoys me greatly that there are no Android devices with high-end specs that have a screen smaller than 4.3" All I want is a phone with Nexus 4 specs, in the body of, say, the Galaxy minis. But all I see is smaller screens with crippled hardware. The HTC One mini comes close, with 2GB of RAM (in my opinion, the needed amount for snappy performance in 4.2), but it's months dow the road with too many ifs, and I tire of waiting. I see many phones outside the US that fit my needs, but I don't see importing as a viable option, since rom support would be questionable.
As much as I dislike Apple's ecosystem, I'm about to switch back, since the iPhone is the only option that meets my needs. I recognize that the iPhone 5 has hardware commensurate to a much weaker phone on the Android side, but iOS, in my experience, is a bit less demanding. I would rather stick with Android, but handset makers do not cater to me

I'm female too, and my hands are relatively small (glove size 6/S). Yet I'm actually intending to buy a bigger phone: the 5.99" Note 3, because I find my SGS3 not big enough.
I don't know what you're doing wrong, but I can easily reach the top left corner of my screen with one hand. No, not if I keep my pinky around the phone, but if I slide it a bit, I can reach past the screen. And it's never in danger of falling out of my hand during the process.
The reason smaller phones have lesser hardware is because they don't require high-end specs: there's no point in having a 1080p screen in 4". And if your resolution is low, your hardware doesn't need to work as hard. So they put in lower-end hardware. What's the point of having and paying for high end hardware if it's never going to be used by the phone itself?

Bigger phones bigger ****
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Lol a girl in my school used to have a galaxy note 2 she had it around a few months and got rid of it... I guess she didn't like it. P.S if you're gonna drop your phone don't do it while you are lay down because it really hurts getting hit in the face with a big chunk of metal/plastic
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ShadowLea said:
The reason smaller phones have lesser hardware is because they don't require high-end specs: there's no point in having a 1080p screen in 4". And if your resolution is low, your hardware doesn't need to work as hard. So they put in lower-end hardware. What's the point of having and paying for high end hardware if it's never going to be used by the phone itself?
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I do not entirely agree. While true, a smaller screen is less demanding, the difference between a browser on 1GB of memory vs. 2GB is huge. My Galaxy Nexus before my Nexus 4 was much slower at rendering pages. I had a TF700t as well, and 1GB of memory did not sustain a comfortable experience and there was considerable lag launching and using applications.

Pfhortune said:
I do not entirely agree. While true, a smaller screen is less demanding, the difference between a browser on 1GB of memory vs. 2GB is huge. My Galaxy Nexus before my Nexus 4 was much slower at rendering pages.
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My guess is that the amount of RAM has nothing to do with page rendering, it helps with multitasking, the difference in page rendering you see is due to the raw CPU power the Nexus 4 has over the G.Nexus, not the amount of RAM, may i remind you the Nexus 4 has a S4 Pro with 4 cores @ 1.5 GHz while the G.Nexus is a TI OMAP dual core @ 1.2 GHz, not to mention the Krait cores on the S4 Pro have better performance than the A9 cores on the TI OMAP.

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My guess is that the amount of RAM has nothing to do with page rendering, it helps with multitasking, the difference in page rendering you see is due to the raw CPU power the Nexus 4 has over the G.Nexus, not the amount of RAM, may i remind you the Nexus 4 has a S4 Pro with 4 cores @ 1.5 GHz while the G.Nexus is a TI OMAP dual core @ 1.2 GHz, not to mention the Krait cores on the S4 Pro have better performance than the A9 cores on the TI OMAP.
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Ah, yeah, I realized my bad choice of words after posting, but couldn't edit for five minutes so went to do other things.
I completely get that the Nexus 4 has a better CPU. Bad example on my part.
Perhaps better though, is when I got my TF700t. That and the Nexus 4 have *somewhat* comparable CPUs, at least in terms of Ghz/Cores, correct me if I'm wrong. However, the Transformer was painful to use due to having half the RAM. Opening Chrome became a frustrating waiting game. The Galaxy Note 8 that I had for a short time, however, was much snappier. There was much less waiting for pages to become responsive.

What are the important things which reside in the upper left corner?? hmm.. never gave it a thought- pls tell!!

Pfhortune said:
Ah, yeah, I realized my bad choice of words after posting, but couldn't edit for five minutes so went to do other things.
I completely get that the Nexus 4 has a better CPU. Bad example on my part.
Perhaps better though, is when I got my TF700t. That and the Nexus 4 have *somewhat* comparable CPUs, at least in terms of Ghz/Cores, correct me if I'm wrong. However, the Transformer was painful to use due to having half the RAM. Opening Chrome became a frustrating waiting game. The Galaxy Note 8 that I had for a short time, however, was much snappier. There was much less waiting for pages to become responsive.
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Have you bothered to read even one page in the TF700 forum? Because we've made it abundantly clear that the amount of RAM is not the issue: The I/O issue is what's responsible for the lag. Flash a different ROM (Cromi-x) and the Tab is the fastest on the market.
Also, and I am getting quite tired of saying this time and time again: The Nexus 4 is 1280x768, the TF700 is 1920x1200. That's almost twice as many pixels it has to push, on a screen almost three times as big. Do the math. The N4 is pretty much a Vehron in an urban 30kph zone. Way too much power it's never going to need.

And also a small point regarding the comparison between the tf700t and the nexus 4. The nexus 4 has the s4 pro, which far and away destroys the tegra 3 because of the superior architecture. Just because both are quad core does not mean you can expect similar performance.
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Why aren't tablet specs as good as smartphones?

I see no reason for this. I have yet to find an Android tablet that has equivalent or better specs than say a Galaxy Note 3, Galaxy S 4, LG G2, etc.
It seems all these tablets have just 1GB of RAM on average (some have 2) and a dual-core CPU at most and are usually less than 2 GHz.
What REALLY bothers me is that tablets don't have 1080p displays. I fail to see the logic in this. Even the brand new Galaxy Note 8 or Tab 3 have 1280x800 displays. It is more expensive to shove 1920x1080 into a 5-inch or smaller screen than a freaking 7" to 12" screen. Also, would it not make more sense to add MORE pixels to a bigger screen to have a sharper image? These smaller phones that have 1080p displays are overkill because there is nearly no visible difference. I went from an S 3 with a 720p display to an S 4 with a 1080p and I see no difference. It seems these companies are doing everything bass-ackwards.
And how is it that they can't put a quad-core Snapdragon 800 into a tablet? Derp???
It's cheaper to make things bigger when it comes to silicon dies and chipsets.
Can anyone help explain this? Thanks. Ha.
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I think it's better to look at this in terms of business.
There is more demand for smartphones than there is for tablets because everyone needs a smartphone but not everyone wants a tablet because phones such as Galaxy Note have replaced tablets and combined the experience of having a large display and multitasking. So I think that manufacturers look to doing more research and development on smartphones due to demand.
However, this doesn't go to say that tablets can't have better hardware. Tablets can be as fast as phones and not only in terms of RAM memory, if you rationally look at the products you'll find that there also needs to be upgraded CPU, GPU and screens which obviously require more power. Conclusively all I can really think of is that businesses look to maximise profits with least costs and it's cheaper to produce smartphones than it is to produce tablets and there is also more demand in the smartphone market than there is in the tablet market.
Hope that answers your question.

The business perspective with supply and demand makes sense. Best answer I've found so far. Thanks.
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