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[Q] Most badass GPU and CPU in da world; Expert Knowedge please :)

I've been doing quite a bit of research on GPU's and CPU's in phone's/tablets lately. And I have a few unanswered questions that I can't seem to find an answer for.
1: What's the best chipset available for mobile phones and tablets right now? This link cleared quite a bit up for me, it does a fairly indepth comparison for both GPU and CPU performance between the Qualcomm S4, Tegra 3, OMAP 4470, and the Exynos 4212. And I dont want the 'Well this is better because it has more jiggahertz". Shut up, that's not what I need. I need something more indepth. If studies on individual GPU comparison can be provided, please drop a link. I'd like to know these things very well.
2: What individual GPU is currently the best? I realize the Ipad3 came out with with a graphics chip that's supposedly superior to the Xbox/PS3's. However I take anything Apple says with a grain of salt, they're notorious for shooting flaming BS out of their rear. However based on the little bit of searching I've done, the Adreno GPU's seem to be ahead of their time. I previously thought the Mali 400 GPU in the Exynos chipset was one of the best, but apparently it's outdated. Again, links to tests/studies/comparisons would be appreciated.
3: What's the deal with the ARM chips? Are the A5's, A6's, A11's, (and whatever other A chips out there are), some standard CPU developed by ARM and licensed out to all manufacturers to use in their chipsets?
4: What alternatives are there to the ARM CPU's? Most chipsets I research seem to be using a Cortex A9 chip.
5: What's the difference between the A5, A6, A9, etc. From what I've seen the higher numbers are the newer models, but I feel like that's a very shallow definition. If that is true, why does the newest iPad only use an A5x chip for it's quad core rather than an A9 or something of the sort.
6: Is the chipset in the iPad really the fastest out there? Personally, I can't really stand apple products; let alone the rabid fanboys and the obnoxious advertisements they put out. I can recognize that they very often gloat about their products and overexaggerate; like how they said the dual core in the iPhone 4s is the fastest out there, yet from what I've read the A5 is the worst performing dual core out there. Is the GPU in the tablet really superior to the Xbox? And is the processor really able to outdo the Tegra 3?
If you're able to answer any one of these, even exclusively, that would be appreciated. I just like knowledge

MultiLockOn said:
I've been doing quite a bit of research on GPU's and CPU's in phone's/tablets lately. And I have a few unanswered questions that I can't seem to find an answer for.
1: What's the best chipset available for mobile phones and tablets right now? This link cleared quite a bit up for me, it does a fairly indepth comparison for both GPU and CPU performance between the Qualcomm S4, Tegra 3, OMAP 4470, and the Exynos 4212. And I dont want the 'Well this is better because it has more jiggahertz". Shut up, that's not what I need. I need something more indepth. If studies on individual GPU comparison can be provided, please drop a link. I'd like to know these things very well.
2: What individual GPU is currently the best? I realize the Ipad3 came out with with a graphics chip that's supposedly superior to the Xbox/PS3's. However I take anything Apple says with a grain of salt, they're notorious for shooting flaming BS out of their rear. However based on the little bit of searching I've done, the Adreno GPU's seem to be ahead of their time. I previously thought the Mali 400 GPU in the Exynos chipset was one of the best, but apparently it's outdated. Again, links to tests/studies/comparisons would be appreciated.
3: What's the deal with the ARM chips? Are the A5's, A6's, A11's, (and whatever other A chips out there are), some standard CPU developed by ARM and licensed out to all manufacturers to use in their chipsets?
4: What alternatives are there to the ARM CPU's? Most chipsets I research seem to be using a Cortex A9 chip.
5: What's the difference between the A5, A6, A9, etc. From what I've seen the higher numbers are the newer models, but I feel like that's a very shallow definition. If that is true, why does the newest iPad only use an A5x chip for it's quad core rather than an A9 or something of the sort.
6: Is the chipset in the iPad really the fastest out there? Personally, I can't really stand apple products; let alone the rabid fanboys and the obnoxious advertisements they put out. I can recognize that they very often gloat about their products and overexaggerate; like how they said the dual core in the iPhone 4s is the fastest out there, yet from what I've read the A5 is the worst performing dual core out there. Is the GPU in the tablet really superior to the Xbox? And is the processor really able to outdo the Tegra 3?
If you're able to answer any one of these, even exclusively, that would be appreciated. I just like knowledge
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1. Dunno right now, it's always changing. I hear the new Qualcomm processors with the new Andreno gpu are supposed to be the ****, but it's not out yet so who knows. The iPad 3 currently has not had any real world tests done yet, we need to wait for release. It is basically the same A5 chip as the iPad 2 but with the PSVita's gpu thrown in.
2. *sigh* The iPad 3 is not more powerful than an Xbox 360. It is better in I believe one aspect (more memory), but this has very little impact on performance/graphics quality. This is Apple shooting wads of **** out it's arse, or whoever made the claim. It's actually using the same GPU found in the PSVita, which we all know is not as powerful as a PS3/Xbox360. However, the PSVita is also using a quad core cpu, whereas the iPad 3 is using the same dual core A5 as the iPad 2, so technically the PSVita is superior. You also have to consider how many more pixels the gpu has to power on the iPad 3's display. While high res is nice, it takes more power to render it.
3. ARM creates a base chip for companies to slap their own GPU's and name on. The naming structure is pretty self explanatory.
4. All CPU's currently in tablets/cellphones are a variant of the ARM. A Cortex A9 is still an ARM chip. This will soon change when Intel releases their tablet/phone chips.
5. You're right, higher numbers do mean newer modeling. I don't know all the exacts, but with the newer ARM series you get higher and/or more efficient clocks, generally some battery savings, and in some series support for more cores. Apple's labeling of their chips has nothing to do with ARM's, it's their own naming scheme. The A5x is just what Apple calls their version of the ARM processor.
6. I believe atm the iPad 3 has the fastest chipset in a tablet..for now. It won't take long for it to be overtaken by other companies, there's so much in the works right now.

speedyink said:
1. Dunno right now, it's always changing. I hear the new Qualcomm processors with the new Andreno gpu are supposed to be the ****, but it's not out yet so who knows. The iPad 3 currently has not had any real world tests done yet, we need to wait for release. It is basically the same A5 chip as the iPad 2 but with the PSVita's gpu thrown in.
2. *sigh* The iPad 3 gpu is not more powerful than an Xbox 360. It is better in I believe one aspect (more memory), but this has very little impact on performance/graphics quality. This is Apple shooting wads of **** out it's arse, or whoever made the claim. It's actually using the same GPU found in the PSVita, which we all know is not as powerful as a PS3/Xbox360. However, the PSVita is also using a quad core cpu, whereas the iPad 3 is using the same dual core A5 as the iPad 2, so technically the PSVita is superior.
3. ARM creates a base chip for companies to slap their own GPU's and name on. The naming structure is pretty self explanatory.
4. All CPU's currently in tablets/cellphones are a variant of the ARM. A Cortex A9 is still an ARM chip. This will soon change when Intel releases their tablet/phone chips.
5. You're right, higher numbers do mean newer modeling. I don't know all the exacts, but with the newer ARM series you get higher and/or more efficient clocks, generally some battery savings, and in some series support for more cores. Apple's labeling of their chips has nothing to do with ARM's, it's their own naming scheme. The A5x is just what Apple calls their version of the ARM processor.
6. I believe atm the iPad 3 has the fastest chipset in a tablet..for now. It won't take long for it to be overtaken by other companies, there's so much in the works right now.
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Thanks for the reply. It seems weird to me that Apple would rename a CPU to something as similar to one that would already exist, A5x as to A5.

MultiLockOn said:
Thanks for the reply. It seems weird to me that Apple would rename a CPU to something as similar to one that would already exist, A5x as to A5.
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Because Apple is the type of company to step on someones feet like that, and then sue them later on for copyright infringement. Damn the confusion, Apple starts with A, so will their processors.

speedyink said:
Because Apple is the type of company to step on someones feet like that, and then sue them later on for copyright infringement. Damn the confusion, Apple starts with A, so will their processors.
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yeah, apple just simply buy a technology and re-label them, make patent and troll others. so for comparison, apple doesn't count. Also these handheld chipset can't be compared with consoles, consoles have more proccessing power like more RAM bandwidth and polygons.
Anyway.. based on my experience, mali400 exynos has a butterly smooth performance for both UI and 3D graphics. I've tried both Gingerbread GNote and my SGS2.
on the other hand, Google did a great job with TI OMAP for it's Galaxy Nexus, pure HW accelerated 4.0.3.. with very little glitch, but I believe it's software issue.
IMO if you wanna buy a fast and smooth device, follow the current Nexus spec (at least similar) like GNexus, Motorola RAZR, etc. I've seen Tegra 3 4+1 Transformer Prime but never hands-on it. as far as i seen, UI and 3D performance are stunning. 1 extra core advantage is for low power mode when doing light proccessing and standby mode. Today hardwares are fast enough, drivers and OS optimisation are very important thing if you want everything run smoothly.
cmiiw, sorry for bad english

lesp4ul said:
yeah, apple just simply buy a technology and re-label them, make patent and troll others. so for comparison, apple doesn't count. Also these handheld chipset can't be compared with consoles, consoles have more proccessing power like more RAM bandwidth and polygons.
Anyway.. based on my experience, mali400 exynos has a butterly smooth performance for both UI and 3D graphics. I've tried both Gingerbread GNote and my SGS2.
on the other hand, Google did a great job with TI OMAP for it's Galaxy Nexus, pure HW accelerated 4.0.3.. with very little glitch, but I believe it's software issue.
IMO if you wanna buy a fast and smooth device, follow the current Nexus spec (at least similar) like GNexus, Motorola RAZR, etc. I've seen Tegra 3 4+1 Transformer Prime but never hands-on it. as far as i seen, UI and 3D performance are stunning. 1 extra core advantage is for low power mode when doing light proccessing and standby mode. Today hardwares are fast enough, drivers and OS optimisation are very important thing if you want everything run smoothly.
cmiiw, sorry for bad english
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I kmow what you mean. Im extremely happy with my galaxy s2, I cant say I ever recall it lagging on me in any way whatsoever. Im not sure what makes the droid razr and galaxy nexus comparable to the s2. From what Ive read Omap processors tend to lag and consume battery, and the mali 400 is better than what either of those phones have. Id say its ICS but the razr still
Runs gingerbread

I was hoping for some more attention in here :/

I agree, omaps are battery hungry beast. Like my previous Optimus Black, man... i only got 12-14 hours with edge (1ghz UV smartass v2, also ****ty LG kernel haha). Same issue as my friend's Galaxy SL. I dunno if newer soc has a better behaviour.
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Ipad is better than Android tablets?

I am a die hard android fan, and windows and Linux as far as the pc goes. Personally I can't stand apple, or anything they make. However, a reoccurring statement I've seen is that android tablets are nowhere near the ipad. Why is this? For what reason are android tablets considered under developed at the time. What makes the ipad so much of a better tablet? Spec wise they don't stand out too much, aside from the newest having a high res and a good gpu. Is it just because the Android tablets have a smaller market? Or does it have to do with the OS not working properly. I'm Just curious as to why people don't think android tablets are worthwhile

As much as i know, tegra 3>a5 processor

Personally, I would stick with Android. Sure, the display is better, but a locked OS, severely restricted download capabilities, and no ability to side load limit what you can do. Just my two cents.

Vadimjke said:
As much as i know, tegra 3>a5 processor
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iPad 3 has much better gpu.
mobile.theverge.com/2012/3/13/2868090/the-ipad-3-gpu-is-a-beast-compared-to-nvidia-tegra-3-and-qualcomm-s4
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MultiLockOn said:
I am a die hard android fan, and windows and Linux as far as the pc goes. Personally I can't stand apple, or anything they make. However, a reoccurring statement I've seen is that android tablets are nowhere near the ipad. Why is this? For what reason are android tablets considered under developed at the time. What makes the ipad so much of a better tablet? Spec wise they don't stand out too much, aside from the newest having a high res and a good gpu. Is it just because the Android tablets have a smaller market? Or does it have to do with the OS not working properly. I'm Just curious as to why people don't think android tablets are worthwhile
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Its just horses for courses, personal preference.
New android tablets are coming out like the mediapad 10 which imho are better than ipad though ipads gpu and screen are great what people forget is that apps are upscaled to the high ipad resolution so don't all look as good, the screen is in 4:3 format so videos either have to waste all the extra pixels by using them to display black bars or zoom in the video so its more blurry and stretched.
So for viewing hd video for example the new ipad is not as good.
Dave
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Hello
the new iPad haves better processor for gaming, and you people say that iPad cannot be customized, if you dont know, you can always jailbreak it, it gives you customization potential that android haves. In english: iPad for gaming, and android for everything else. you can actually have flash on your ipad when youre jailbroken. but android is also cheaper. but cheap android tablet also is slow and not so good, and ipad gets more updates and faster. you choose. i would choose iPad even im a great android fan

This is my personel preferrence but I don't play on my iPad two anyway near as much as my android devices, iPad games are expensive and even though once jailbroken they can be customized, the layout of apps and things is still the same. We have launchers and Roms that are very customizable and Cpu' you can overclock.can you overclock an iPad?
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Akizella said:
the new iPad haves better processor for gaming, and you people say that iPad cannot be customized, if you dont know, you can always jailbreak it, it gives you customization potential that android haves. In english: iPad for gaming, and android for everything else. you can actually have flash on your ipad when youre jailbroken. but android is also cheaper. but cheap android tablet also is slow and not so good, and ipad gets more updates and faster. you choose. i would choose iPad even im a great android fan
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I agree gpu is better and yes cheap android tablets tend to be slow but why compare ipad to cheap tablets and not ones in its price range instead?
And a jailbroken ios device can still not do all an android can do, my most obvious example being tasker like automation or live wallpapers.
But yes new ipad is very good for gaming although not all its potential can be used.
Dave
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Android tablets are more fascinating and gives you more power than the ipad,which doesn‘t
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Vadimjke said:
As much as i know, tegra 3>a5 processor
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While the tegra 3 is the only quad core chipset available right now, nvidia did a pretty terrible job with it. It's constantly out performed by dual core chips such as Krait and exynos in most areas. Most apps can't utilize four processors, and the ones that do are games that are actually dependent on the gpu. And in that sense, the Kal-El gpu in the terga 3 chip is a toy compared to the pvr m4 gpu in the ipad. The four cores in the pvr outperform even the full 12 in the Kal-El gpu. I'd expect more for the manufacturer of some of the best desktop graphics cards in the world. So all you're going to benefit from the tegra three chip is slightly better power savings when you're doing heavy multitasking. I'd trade off the four cores for a Krait cpu with an adreno gpu any day. At the moment the ipad 3's chipset is the best out there.

Has to be Android all the way.
Open source and pretty much does anything you want whereas i just see the Ipad as a nice looking tablet but it doesn't do much!!
Has anyone notice as well that the accessories are ridiculously over priced for all Apple products

sound2005 said:
Has to be Android all the way.
Open source and pretty much does anything you want whereas i just see the Ipad as a nice looking tablet but it doesn't do much!!
Has anyone notice as well that the accessories are ridiculously over priced for all Apple products
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Thats a common complaint against apple. They claim they're products are ultra compatible, yet in order to connect them to anything non apple you have to be an extensive and expensive set of cables and adapters

Bumpity bump. I'd like some more opinions :/

Well I am in the market for my first tablet at the moment.
Girlfriend is an iphone user so just know she will pick faults with anything that does not work as well as, or slightly different to ios.
I have yet to find a good alternative to airplay, I have yet to find a feature and usage complete alternative to airplay/remote combo. PS3 media server (for the PS3) and dlna with 10k+ mp3's is not in the same league.
So think I will be leaning towards the ipad, even the nerd in me does not see a great advantage for any current android tablet vs ipad..

I think Android is better!!

Is anybody love for ESPOW android tablet pc?
There is no doubt Ipad id better than android tablet,but not everyone can offord it.
Is anybody love for ESPOW android tablet pc?
I think it is a smart choice.

Although I hate to admit it, the ipad is definitely up there in terms of ease of use etc. However, I definitely couldn't handle the restrictiveness and would opt for a transformer prime.

I had an eee pad transformer tf101 for a while and like on my droid razr, really enjoyed the customization, flashing roms such as Android revolution hd which really improved the tablet in terms of reliability and smoothness. Using live wallpapers and custom launchers was also great fun. However, it experienced some rather inconvencing problems such as the touch screen intermittently dying and poor build quality, the bezel around the edge came loose from the screen and made the screen uncomfortably flexible.
Recently i bought the new ipad and the build quality is simply flawless. For word processing pages is again, flawless. The same can be said for keynote and numbers. It is also extremely smooth and the retina display is beautiful.
I love android and its flexibility for customization but in the case of eee pad transformer and even galaxy tab 10.1 which i have some experience using, vs the new ipad?
The iPad wins by a country mile.
I'll just have to get my developing fix from my droid razr
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All fanboys are phyocrties one way or another. It's impossible to convince an true android fanboy to believe the ipad is better as a tablet than android.
Most of then bash based on raw power leaving out optimisation, app compatibility, android rt and user experience from a tablet pov rather than synthetic benchmark. Tablet userbility> specs that mean nothing on ios as it is more efficient, built on c+, customisation, phone app on tablet real state.
Gade to see some fanboys understanding both sides. You can tell from my username that I was once a fanboy like many on xda

Asus transformer prime infinity

From what I see it seems that they'll switch to snapdragon s4, 1.7Ghz most likely which uses a15 compared to the Penta core tegra 3 which uses a9.. now don't come with the trash....
Oh oh s4 is better... no its not., you want proof ? I get 12000 CPU score on quadrant while s4 got 8000 that's 50% faster sorry.. as of battery life... companion core...........
BUT, there is always a but, the s4 is good enough to handle pretty much anything and the adreno 225 is better than geforce ulp which helps with those pixels .. also the tegra 3 seems to lag somehow.. in browsing.. when the page is loading if you scroll or pinch to zoom it lags on the prime as well as on the one x..in the rest it's the fastest..
In terms of raw power the tegra 3 is still the king. But it that what we need ?
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Cool story bro
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Cool story bro
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Ditto

why start a new thread when we have a thread about this tab already?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523811

Soooooo many things wrong with your line of thinking.
First, quadrant measures IO of memory as well as processor speed and many other things. If you have, say class 10 memory on your device and a craptastic processor it could rate higher on quadrant than a device with class 4 memory and a extremely fast processor. Hell some roms even tweak to read extremely fast to rank very high on quadrant at the expense of everything else.
Quadrant tests mean nothing because they can be easially mutilated. If i want high quadrant its easy, if i want a fast device that does what i want, its not so easy.
next, the browser itself is what lags, not the tegra3 chip. Take the stock browser and put it in ANY other device, it will lag just as much. Its a **** browser, get one that works and then talk.
If you drive a ferrarri and say "wow this car is amazing but the windshield gets very dirty and the wipers dont clean it that well" does it mean the car is ****? No! it means you need new wipers. The same way if your browser or launcher or whatever is laggy dont complain, try a different browser and it will work better.
I swear, can we have a "UnThanks" button for some of these people? im tired of seeing these threads...

pileot said:
Soooooo many things wrong with your line of thinking.
First, quadrant measures IO of memory as well as processor speed and many other things. If you have, say class 10 memory on your device and a craptastic processor it could rate higher on quadrant than a device with class 4 memory and a extremely fast processor. Hell some roms even tweak to read extremely fast to rank very high on quadrant at the expense of everything else.
Quadrant tests mean nothing because they can be easially mutilated. If i want high quadrant its easy, if i want a fast device that does what i want, its not so easy.
next, the browser itself is what lags, not the tegra3 chip. Take the stock browser and put it in ANY other device, it will lag just as much. Its a **** browser, get one that works and then talk.
If you drive a ferrarri and say "wow this car is amazing but the windshield gets very dirty and the wipers dont clean it that well" does it mean the car is ****? No! it means you need new wipers. The same way if your browser or launcher or whatever is laggy dont complain, try a different browser and it will work better.
I swear, can we have a "UnThanks" button for some of these people? im tired of seeing these threads...
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not really...... you know the browser doesn't lag as much on my nexus....
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http://www.stuff.tv/news/phone/news-nugget/exclusive-htc-one-x-vs-htc-one-xl-%E2%80%93-tegra-3-vs-snapdragon-s4
Here read below the antutu benchmark
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Tegra 3 GPU is probably too weak to support the 1920 x 1080 display. Anandtech points this out in their iPad 3 review.

What about the S4 Pro? Is the only difference between the Pro and Non Pro the GPU?

Tegra 3 > Snapdragon S4?
Tegra 3 < Snapdragon S4?
DOES NOT MATTER
Personally I think the Tegra 3 is a better option, but that doesn't matter. They are only switching to the Snapdragon on the LTE versions and are switching to the Snapdragon because the Tegra 3 SoC doesn't support LTE. If you want LTE, you can't get Tegra 3.

ray3andrei said:
not really...... you know the browser doesn't lag as much on my nexus....
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The browser doesn't lag at all on my Prime. Not since I did a factory reset anyway.
There are a lot of things that can impact the performance or a particular app including the processor. However just because an app lags on one device and not on the other, that isn't proof that one processor is better than another. In fact that kind of comparison is practically worthless for judging the relative abilities of two different chipsets.
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Tegra 3 GPU is probably too weak to support the 1920 x 1080 display. Anandtech points this out in their iPad 3 review.
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If that were really true, it is unlikely that Asus would be using the Tegra 3 on the WiFi TF Infinity tablets.

rushless said:
Tegra 3 GPU is probably too weak to support the 1920 x 1080 display. Anandtech points this out in their iPad 3 review.
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Here's the thing, anadtech, like pretty much most other tech media sites, have been taken over by apple fanboys who would say/do anything to put apple in a better light than others. Some times they would lie right through their teeth just to put apple in a better light. Some times it's more subtle.
The 32gb TFP model sells at $499. Everyone knows this. Last month, there was a review comparison of the prime versus the new ipad. The author dared to say the prime starts at like $600 and he proved it by linking to to an awefully overpriced website. When myself and several others spammed the hell out of their inbox demanding they change it, they changed it and said it was a "typo". I just find it amazing that all these mistakes and typos are always made to make apple look better.
Anyway, nowadays I don't trust anything the tech media says about the performances of apple devices versus others. They don't even try to hide their apple bias anymore.
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And I recently tried to use the ipad again. Smooth device. However, it still feels like an oversized ipod touch because everything is oversized. I'm not 80 years old. I don't need the icons to be that big.

Most reviews on YouTube do the same,all these so called tech website are been bought buy Apple...
Very sad......
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Thicker? Heavier? Shorter battery life? Pass.
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goodintentions said:
Here's the thing, anadtech, like pretty much most other tech media sites, have been taken over by apple fanboys who would say/do anything to put apple in a better light than others. Some times they would lie right through their teeth just to put apple in a better light. Some times it's more subtle.
The 32gb TFP model sells at $499. Everyone knows this. Last month, there was a review comparison of the prime versus the new ipad. The author dared to say the prime starts at like $600 and he proved it by linking to to an awefully overpriced website. When myself and several others spammed the hell out of their inbox demanding they change it, they changed it and said it was a "typo". I just find it amazing that all these mistakes and typos are always made to make apple look better.
Anyway, nowadays I don't trust anything the tech media says about the performances of apple devices versus others. They don't even try to hide their apple bias anymore.
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And I recently tried to use the ipad again. Smooth device. However, it still feels like an oversized ipod touch because everything is oversized. I'm not 80 years old. I don't need the icons to be that big.
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Anandtech liked the Prime so much they did a pre review and a redo (due to radio issues with first unit), plus collaborated with Asus on the wifi radio issues. The Tegra 3 gpu is too weak to support 1920 x 1080. Takes a lot of power and the reason the gpu is a big part of the A5X in the iPad 3. Not fanboy a issue, but a LOT of pixels to push issue. There will need to be a new gpu if the Tegra 3 is used- if users expect smooth performance.

rushless said:
Anandtech liked the Prime so much they did a pre review and a redo (due to radio issues with first unit), plus collaborated with Asus on the wifi radio issues. The Tegra 3 gpu is too weak to support 1920 x 1080. Takes a lot of power and the reason the gpu is a big part of the A5X in the iPad 3. Not fanboy a issue, but a LOT of pixels to push issue. There will need to be a new gpu if the Tegra 3 is used- if users expect smooth performance.
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Ok, I'll take that I guess.
I'm just weary about tech websites nowadays. Last year, I stumbled upon an article comparing the ipad 2 to an android tablet. From start to finish, the author never even mentioned what the android tablet was. When I zoomed into the picture, I could have sworn it was one of those cheap chinese tablets that ran on android 2.2 or 1.6. This was about the time when praising the ipad got you a lot of readers because the ipad 2 had just come out.
Almost every tech review of the TF101 said typing using the docking station was annoying because the mouse pointer was jumping around too much. Get it? Not a single one of these so-called tech reviewers and experts knew the 4th button from the left top row disables the trackpad.
What I've found most interesting is the fact that for almost a year most tech reviewers just ignored the TF101 completely. There were plenty of "top 10 tablets" or "ipad killer tablets" articles. 99% of them left out the TF101 completely even though the transformer was even more popular than the xoom.
Let's go back even further. I remember when asus chairman launched the asus transformer along with several other new products. I was watching live blogs made by various "journalists". What I noticed was they were all criticizing the transformer even before they got their hands on it. I specifically remember one "journalist" writing he thought no one would be interested in a laptop-tablet hybrid.
The tech media needs to start doing some heavy self-censuring if they want me to start trusting them again. As far as I'm concern, they're a bunch of liars who would say anything to put apple above everything else.

Agreed with the fanboy bias, since there are a few major sites that prefer Apples in their diet.

comon guys lets face it: tegra 3 will get pwnd by the nextgen a15 cpu's. thats how it works , simple.
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Anyone else want to speculate on the Samsung Galaxy S IV?

Just a harmless conversation based on what the next Samsung flagship phone might receive based on trends of the mobile industry. You can offer your own opinions and/or critiques.
With the Nexus 4, sporting a very powerful S4 Snapdragon quad processor, 320 Adreno GPU, 2 GB of RAM and the standard HD display, it's sure to be the strongest thing we have until the HTC Butterfly (now dubbed the HTC DNA) comes (reportedly to Verizon) sporting a 1080p screen, probably the same processor and RAM, as well as a bigger battery.
It's clear that the competition within the Android ecosystem isn't as monopolized by Samsung like it was a year or two ago - at least in terms of quality products. The Galaxy S II stayed not only as the top Android phone, but the top phone period for almost a whole year. It seems that HTC and LG have stepped up their game and are putting out functioning, competitive products. The Galaxy S III kind of fell off the performance radar within 4-5 months. (comparatively speaking)
Samsung has been reportedly testing 3 GB RAM on experiment phone models; if that made it to the final product of the GSIV, that would make it a trend-setter in that regard. It's also going to come with the new-generation 13 megapixel camera module, which is slated to desolate any popular 8 MP camera shooters on the market - such as the HTC One X, Galaxy S III (the worst of the bunch on the front-facing camera) or iPhone 5 with its color-reproduction and low-light performance.
As for the processor, I hope they throw in the ultra-powerful Exynos 5450 (the Cortex-A15 quad-core) rated at around 2 GHz, it will absolutely eat the already unbelievably fast S4 Krait quad in the upcoming megaphones for breakfast. The Mali-658 GPU from the aforementioned would probably also be on par, if not better than that in the iPad 4's A6X's GPU. Last but not least, anyone else hoping we'll see a beautiful Super AMOLED HD Plus display (or whatever they'll call it) with full 1080p?
All of these rumors and speculation sound reasonable at this point, given what we've been seeing in the market place. If it all turned out to be true, the Galaxy S IV would be leaps and bounds above any smartphone upon its release and maybe easily throughout the year subsequent to its release. I'm actually excited that the competition within Android is picking up steam. The harder these companies compete against each other, the more us, as consumers win.

In the next generation phones, most of them would be compatible with nfc payments, like Google wallet or isis.
I expect faster processor and a minimum of 2 gb of ram.
Most likely, every phone will come in different screen sizes. So you can choose a particular phone with your choice of screen size.
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2gb ram
nvidia tegra 3 graphic chipset
5.0inch screen super amoled screen 12mp camera,with burst mode
and maybe some new technolgy

deaddrg said:
2gb ram
nvidia tegra 3 graphic chipset
5.0inch screen super amoled screen 12mp camera,with burst mode
and maybe some new technolgy
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Why would they use Tegra 3 chips - which are only Cortex-A9's and the fact that Samsung develops their own chipset means they would opt for their own before another chipset commonly found in its competitors.

deaddrg said:
2gb ram
nvidia tegra 3 graphic chipset
5.0inch screen super amoled screen 12mp camera,with burst mode
and maybe some new technolgy
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Mhmmm future

megagodx said:
Why would they use Tegra 3 chips - which are only Cortex-A9's and the fact that Samsung develops their own chipset means they would opt for their own before another chipset commonly found in its competitors.
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I sure hope they don't use the tegra chipset. That'll make them depend on nVidia for updates.

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It's great that a lot of attention is put into adding better specs (RAM, CPU, features like NFC, etc), but my biggest concern is that they' don't pay enough attention to battery life. I don't understand why they don't invest more in this field.
Here's to hoping that Samsung will care more about this and innovate in this area.

Why aren't tablet specs as good as smartphones?

I see no reason for this. I have yet to find an Android tablet that has equivalent or better specs than say a Galaxy Note 3, Galaxy S 4, LG G2, etc.
It seems all these tablets have just 1GB of RAM on average (some have 2) and a dual-core CPU at most and are usually less than 2 GHz.
What REALLY bothers me is that tablets don't have 1080p displays. I fail to see the logic in this. Even the brand new Galaxy Note 8 or Tab 3 have 1280x800 displays. It is more expensive to shove 1920x1080 into a 5-inch or smaller screen than a freaking 7" to 12" screen. Also, would it not make more sense to add MORE pixels to a bigger screen to have a sharper image? These smaller phones that have 1080p displays are overkill because there is nearly no visible difference. I went from an S 3 with a 720p display to an S 4 with a 1080p and I see no difference. It seems these companies are doing everything bass-ackwards.
And how is it that they can't put a quad-core Snapdragon 800 into a tablet? Derp???
It's cheaper to make things bigger when it comes to silicon dies and chipsets.
Can anyone help explain this? Thanks. Ha.
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I think it's better to look at this in terms of business.
There is more demand for smartphones than there is for tablets because everyone needs a smartphone but not everyone wants a tablet because phones such as Galaxy Note have replaced tablets and combined the experience of having a large display and multitasking. So I think that manufacturers look to doing more research and development on smartphones due to demand.
However, this doesn't go to say that tablets can't have better hardware. Tablets can be as fast as phones and not only in terms of RAM memory, if you rationally look at the products you'll find that there also needs to be upgraded CPU, GPU and screens which obviously require more power. Conclusively all I can really think of is that businesses look to maximise profits with least costs and it's cheaper to produce smartphones than it is to produce tablets and there is also more demand in the smartphone market than there is in the tablet market.
Hope that answers your question.

The business perspective with supply and demand makes sense. Best answer I've found so far. Thanks.
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