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[Q] HTC HD7S vs Samsung Focus

Tired out waiting for dual cores to come out for WP7...and I have been waiting to get a new phone for several months now.
So I was kind of curious, the HD7S is $150 more than the Focus. Besides a slightly larger screen, are there any other differences between these two, or are you just paying more for the HTC brand name?

Booyaah82 said:
Tired out waiting for dual cores to come out for WP7...and I have been waiting to get a new phone for several months now.
So I was kind of curious, the HD7S is $150 more than the Focus. Besides a slightly larger screen, are there any other differences between these two, or are you just paying more for the HTC brand name?
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[U]HD7S[/U] [U]Focus[/U]
SLCD Super AMOLED
16 GB 8 GB (expandable)
4.8 x 2.68 x 0.44 inches 4.84 x 2.56 x 0.39 inches
Seems to be the primary differences. Lots of sites out there you can look for to compare devices. -_-'

Booyaah82 said:
Tired out waiting for dual cores to come out for WP7
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Just curious -- why do you want that? What benefit will you realize from having 2 cores?

i think focus don't have cost performance
hd7 is gelivable

I got a focus and the super amoled screen its just beutiful, the performance of it it just amazing, i dont know about the hd7 but the focus is the way to go, and its thiner and lighter, great camara

mizad09 said:
I got a focus and the super amoled screen its just beutiful, the performance of it it just amazing, i dont know about the hd7 but the focus is the way to go, and its thiner and lighter, great camara
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remember focus is smaller than hd7s,although it doesn't have a S amoled.

Booyaah82 said:
Tired out waiting for dual cores to come out for WP7...and I have been waiting to get a new phone for several months now.
So I was kind of curious, the HD7S is $150 more than the Focus. Besides a slightly larger screen, are there any other differences between these two, or are you just paying more for the HTC brand name?
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HTC name and it's newer.
I saw the HD7S for $49 briefly @ att.com now it's back to $149. Still the Focus is the better phone still due to 4" super amoled screen and larger battery (1550 mah). If you want to play around with microsd cards it's also capable of more storage and has faster built in nand memory than the HTC devices.
Sept 1 mango press blackout life should reveal more devices, i expect the HD7S to come down in price regardless. The only reason to get the HD7S imho would be if the 4.3" screen is necessary visually or for typing.

Ah I forgot some new phones will come out with the Mango official release. I guess I'll just wait a few more weeks to get a better selection or lower price.
Probably old news but this looks hot (if it somehow makes it past concept):
In short, these are main specifications of Nokia W10:
Main display
Touchscreen 4.5 inch (1280 x 720 pixels)
Processor
2 GHz Quad-Core (2 GB RAM and GPU)
Memory
32GB Internal (External up to 64 GB microSD)
Connectivity
Quad-4G LTE frequency bands
Battery
Li-Ion 2000 mAh
Camera
15 MP rear and 5 MP front
(Carl Zeiss optics and Dual Xenon flash)
TV-out
1080p video
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http ://www .mobilenewsbreak.com/2011/07/nokia-w10-quad-core-smartphone-with-wp7.html

Booyaah82 said:
Ah I forgot some new phones will come out with the Mango official release. I guess I'll just wait a few more weeks to get a better selection or lower price.
Probably old news but this looks hot (if it somehow makes it past concept):
http ://www .mobilenewsbreak.com/2011/07/nokia-w10-quad-core-smartphone-with-wp7.html
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It's only a concept, I wouldn't expect the Quad Cores for another yr or so. Plus, WP7 only supports 480x800 Resolution @ 262 DPI. Mango didn't change this. If anything, that'd be a WP8 Concept IMO.

It's too early to have that kind of phone, I believe next 2 years than its going to be built.

Ok now that that apple Ipad 3 is out.....I really want to know...

2048 x 1536 pixels
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That is the MAX VGA resolution is it not? Am I the only one who is seeing this or is this just a quirky thing....
I really don't believe that the thing has that insane high resolution...something just irks me about the thing.
How the "hell" does that mobile gpu handle the resolution without lagging up a ****storm.......I want to know.....I don't however want that its powered by fairy dust
I mean the device only has 1gb of ram........where does it get its video memory? that res would eat up memory like craxy

....fairy....d..u...s..
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Its hella strange.
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I held both the iPad 2 and 3 in my hands today. When browsing the Internet the difference is minimal (more stuff on page) but it does help when reading text book/email as you get to see more at better clarity.
Overall not such a big deal and Android tablets will get this res soon enough.

devilsrogue said:
2048 x 1536 pixels
.....
That is the MAX VGA resolution is it not? Am I the only one who is seeing this or is this just a quirky thing....
I really don't believe that the thing has that insane high resolution...something just irks me about the thing.
How the "hell" does that mobile gpu handle the resolution without lagging up a ****storm.......I want to know.....I don't however want that its powered by fairy dust
I mean the device only has 1gb of ram........where does it get its video memory? that res would eat up memory like craxy
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It's just good software engineering, something Apple is darned good at. The 1Gb of ram is enough for a device that does not multitask in the same way android does.

I don't think other manufacturers can produce such very high resolution in small inch like ipad3 within this 2 years.
Apple is insane, pitty that it is not android.
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Nothing strange at all. Already iPad 2 has a huge GPU, but iPad 3 has an even larger GPU, iPad 3 uses an PowerVR SGX543MP4 and the complete SOC measures 162 mm2, that is twice as large and basically twice as expensive as an Tegra 3!
That GPU is basically 4 times as powerful as PowerVR SGX540 GPU, i e the GPU in Galaxy Nexus. But iPad has lower clock than Galaxy Nexus though.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5685/apple-a5x-die-size-measured-16294mm2-likely-still-45nm
Apple can afford such big SOC because iPad are expensive and also because of all the money the get from app-sales.
But that SOC is probably not working in an iPhone, they need a new more power efficient SOC made on 28/32 nm for iPhone 5.

It's all in the design. The way the A5/A5X SOCs are designed, they really do a better job of pushing the limits on what is possible with the specs. The A5/X is just that good of a design that they can run 512mb/1gb ram and be lag free. And also the way in which Apple handles multitasking.

dakpluto said:
It's all in the design. The way the A5/A5X SOCs are designed, they really do a better job of pushing the limits on what is possible with the specs. The A5/X is just that good of a design that they can run 512mb/1gb ram and be lag free. And also the way in which Apple handles multitasking.
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No, the GPU in A5/A5x is not more efficient or better designed than GPU's in Android phones, it is just more powerful because it has many more calculation units/transistors (more expensive).
In fact many Android phones uses the same architecture in their GPU's but with 1/4th of the calculation units in A5x.

Hope this pushes all other companies to increase screen resolutions.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

9.5 MB
2048 x 1536 x 3 bytes = 9.5 MB. And in most cases an image that big will be compressed in DRAM. 1GB is plenty.
However, refreshing the screen with that much data 30 or more times/second could consume a lot of the DRAM bandwidth. Those 4 CPU cores may slow down when displaying a full-size image. (Not that it'd matter - quad core on a tablet is mostly a marketing gimmick. They're not doing anything a single slower core couldn't handle just as well.)

dragon135 said:
I don't think other manufacturers can produce such very high resolution in small inch like ipad3 within this 2 years.
Apple is insane, pitty that it is not android.
Sent from my GT-I9100
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I thought there is a 2560x1600res 11.6" tablet coming in the form of 10.1" this year from samsung with a15 based exynos5

Higher resolutions are nice, but they should be useful. 2560*1600 sounds nice, but if everything will be unreadably small, there's no use in having such a resolution.
However, I do think it's strange Apple sticks to 4:3 resolutions even though their devices are shaped differently...

HTC One X -VS- Samsung Galaxy SIII

The flagship of Samsung is now up and whoa! That is some latest piece of tech.
Specifications:
Samsung Galaxy SIII:
4.8" 720p SUPER AMOLED (pentile) Display.
1.4 GHz Quad Core.
8MP rear / 1.9MP front camera.
2100 mAh battery
16/32GB storage (64 coming soon) with sd card slot.
ICS with Touchwiz 4.0
HTC ONE X:
4.7" 720p Super LCD2 Display.
1.5 GHz Quad core.
8MP rear / 1.3MP front camera.
1800mAh battery.
32GB internal storage with no SD Card slot.
ICS with HTC Sense 4.0
My Opinion:
Well, specs ain't the only thing. The overall performance, feel in hand and overall experience of the phone really counts. I don't think it's a big leap forward as we already know HTC ONE X is a beast in itself.
I prefer HOX because I don't like touchwiz UI of Samsung and the build quality is better in HTC ofcourse.
Many people will go against me and that's how it goes in the world.
* Sense 4.0 is better than touchwiz.
* ImageSense is better than SIII camera.
* 1.5 GHz quad core (penta core to be precise) is better than 1.4 GHz Quad Core.
* The shape is actually better than SIII. Didn't like the shape of SIII. The shape is a serious letdown for me.
*I'll vote for One X against SIII*
IMPORTANT NOTE:
Buy the one you like. Vote for the one you admire. This sort of competition is good for the new technology. And at the end of the day THE BEST phone is one which is in your hands.
Enjoy your phone. Enjoy the talks.
Like THIS for a compliment.
Would love to listen from you people.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Have you owned both devices personally yet? Until you've had both side by side doing the same exact things then there is no way to properly determined.which is superior. Benchmarks are worthless. Seems you're already on Team HTC's bandwagon so you're mind is made up. There will be a billion GS3 posts on XDA and they will all won't be worth a ****.

rdubyah said:
Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Have you owned both devices personally yet? Until.you've had both side by side doing the same exact things then there is no way to properly determined.which is superior. Benchmarks are worthless.
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Yeah benchmarks are useless. That's why I didn't bring them into discussion.
I'm comparing the SPECS ONLY and there you see One X smashes SGSIII.
SGIII is built of polycarbonate as well but coated a sort of plastic layer (don't remember the name exactly) and that's ridiculous.
The bright shiny 720p SUPER LCD2 outclasses Pentile 720p Super Amoled.
Sent from my HTC Desire

mohsinraza said:
Yeah benchmarks are useless. That's why I didn't bring them into discussion.
I'm comparing the SPECS ONLY and there you see One X smashes SGSIII.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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lmao biased much? only thing that is better is the screen.
Polycarbonate comes at the expense of microSD and (smaller) built in battery. Along with better battery you can pull out GS3 has a 32nm SOC instead of 40something which also saves battery and heats less.
Maybe the 7th One X you'll return will be on par with GS3.
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BTW Touchwiz vs Sense is kinda pointless as it depends on user preference, and anyhow were on XDA and you know how easy it is to just flash something different.

HTC..is interesting..very interesting

mohsinraza said:
The flagship of Samsung is now up and whoa! That is some latest piece of tech.
Specifications:
Samsung Galaxy SIII:
4.8" 720p SUPER AMOLED (pentile) Display.
1.4 GHz Quad Core.
8MP rear / 1.9MP front camera.
2100 mAh battery
16/32GB storage (64 coming soon) with sd card slot.
ICS with Touchwiz 4.0
HTC ONE X:
4.7" 720p Super LCD2 Display.
1.5 GHz Quad core.
8MP rear / 1.3MP front camera.
1800mAh battery.
32GB internal storage with no SD Card slot.
ICS with HTC Sense 4.0
My Opinion:
Well, specs ain't the only thing. The overall performance, feel in hand and overall experience of the phone really counts. I don't think it's a big leap forward as we already know HTC ONE X is a beast in itself.
I prefer HOX because I don't like touchwiz UI of Samsung and the build quality is better in HTC ofcourse.
Many people will go against me and that's how it goes in the world.
* Sense 4.0 is better than touchwiz.
* ImageSense is better than SIII camera.
* 1.5 GHz quad core (penta core to be precise) is better than 1.4 GHz Quad Core.
* The shape is actually better than SIII. Didn't like the shape of SIII. The shape is a serious letdown for me.
*I'll vote for One X against SIII*
IMPORTANT NOTE:
Buy the one you like. Vote for the one you admire. This sort of competition is good for the new technology. And at the end of the day THE BEST phone is one which is in your hands.
Enjoy your phone. Enjoy the talks.
Like THIS for a compliment.
Would love to listen from you people.
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Omg. Galaxy S3 GPU and CPU is much much better and best CPU and GPU on a mobile. New GPU is 400mhz. Just WTF. Even screen is best screen until today. I don't care about fancy stuff but new touchwiz is better than sense for me. REMEMBER THIS. Galaxy S with froyo have HW accelerated browser because of touchwiz. No one can touch S3 now. Tell me about glup. Byes.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA

mohsinraza said:
Yeah benchmarks are useless. That's why I didn't bring them into discussion.
I'm comparing the SPECS ONLY and there you see One X smashes SGSIII.
SGIII is built of polycarbonate as well but coated a sort of plastic layer (don't remember the name exactly) and that's ridiculous.
The bright shiny 720p SUPER LCD2 outclasses Pentile 720p Super Amoled.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Really interesting guys! There are 2 chances.
1- You didn't see a amoled screen.
2- You don't know about specs. Because One X doesn't have chance to own SGS3. Like S2 and Sensation. Even my sgs1 is faster and more ram than sensation.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA

burakgon said:
Omg. Galaxy S3 GPU and CPU is much much better and best CPU and GPU on a mobile. New GPU is 400mhz. Just WTF. Even screen is best screen until today. I don't care about fancy stuff but new touchwiz is better than sense for me. REMEMBER THIS. Galaxy S with froyo have HW accelerated browser because of touchwiz. No one can touch S3 now. Tell me about glup. Byes.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA
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CPU & GPU won't make a difference until you play games HD games on the phone all day long. And for daily workings both are more than enough.
Whoa! You're kiddin' me. The pentile display is way too awkward. THIS IS NOT THE BEST SCREEN.
UI may come down to personal preference so not in discussion.
nebsif said:
lmao biased much? only thing that is better is the screen.
Polycarbonate comes at the expense of microSD and (smaller) built in battery. Along with better battery you can pull out GS3 has a 32nm SOC instead of 40something which also saves battery and heats less.
Maybe the 7th One X you'll return will be on par with GS3.
BTW Touchwiz vs Sense is kinda pointless as it depends on user preference, and anyhow were on XDA and you know how easy it is to just flash something different.
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32nm and 40nm actually have NO serious difference. Even S4 Snapdragon being 28mm isn't a outdated product. This actually is a no difference. Fifth core on One X is assigned to do the job as you've mentioned, less heat & longer battery.
Sent from my HTC Desire

Both of them are great but I prefer Huawei ascend quad XL it has better specs

mohsinraza said:
32nm and 40nm actually have NO serious difference. Even S4 Snapdragon being 28mm isn't a outdated product. This actually is a no difference. Fifth core on One X is assigned to do the job as you've mentioned, less heat & longer battery.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Sorry, but you're very very very wrong here. The difference between 40 and 32 is 20% less battery power for any given task. Between 40 and 28 is closer to 40% less battery usage.
Fifth core on Tegra 3 is technically retarded. Read Nvidia's white paper. The CPU can't have the fifth core on at the same time as any of the others, so Tegra 3 only saves battery power if you're not actually using your phone and it's only doing background tasks while the screen is off.
Furthermore, Tegra 3 has no dynamic voltage control. So if you were to watch a movie on a T3 device, and your email refreshes in the background, it would use the same processor power and clock speed as watching 2 movies at the same time. Both Krait S4 and Exynos 4 have dynamic voltage control.
Personally, I'd rather not have either device and wait for the LTE Padfone.

I had a SGS2... Moved from that to HTC One X because i just couldn't stand their TouchWiz UI..
The development on the SGS2 haven't been as i hoped, mainly due to their drivers.
Sorry, but i will stick with my HTC One X

sreza said:
Personally, I'd rather not have either device and wait for the LTE Padfone.
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What is the price of the Padphone at the release? I know you can preorder it around 1000 dollars

thatdefault said:
What is the price of the Padphone at the release? I know you can preorder it around 1000 dollars
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If you do a comparison vs what you would pay otherwise, it's actually much cheaper to get a Padfone than the alternatives.
Padfone+Padfone Station+Station Dock+BT stylus= ~$1000
Est. cost for data on ATT: $20-50 depending on plan size, $30 unlimited if you're grandfathered in like me
Apple:
iPhone 4S= $600
iPad 3rd gen= $600
BT keyboard case= $50
Total: $1250
Est. cost for data on ATT: $65 per month
Android:
HTC One X= $650
Transformer Prime+KB Dock= $700
Total: $1350
Est. cost for data on ATT: $65 per month
So you actually save at least $250 initially, and another $360-$1080 from data costs (Calculated using ATT required 5gb plan for data tethering= $65 per month, cheapest alternate for separate data plans is $55 per month).
If you're a particularly frugal data user, the Padfone system will actually pay for itself and leave you $80 further in the black than you were before your purchase compared to the alternatives!

All of these international One X fans need to remember that the dual core AT&T One X beats out the quad core international tegra 3 version in terms of performance. The quad core exynos is going to SMASH the One X! That being said, I still like the One X better. The SGSIII is like the GNEX's ugly little sister.

The problem is phones are very expensive here and the price won't go down anytime soon the price of galaxy S II is higher than neighboring countries and the price went up when the G model was announced Asus products are very expensive here TF 101 + keyboard dock costs more than the prime + dock. Thank God Dubai isn't far

lowandbehold said:
All of these international One X fans need to remember that the dual core AT&T One X beats out the quad core international tegra 3 version in terms of performance. The quad core exynos is going to SMASH the One X! That being said, I still like the One X better. The SGSIII is like the GNEX's ugly little sister.
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Why would the Exynos chip in the SG3 be faster than the Tegra 3 in the One X?
They're both A9 chips, Exynos is clocked at 1.4 while Tegra 3 is clocked at 1.5. Sure, the Exynos chip has wonderful features like the 32nm build and dynamic voltage control, but those only affect how efficiently it uses the battery. What affects speed is your Cortex class (both A9) and your clock speed, in which case Tegra 3 should theoretically perform slightly better.
I'm pretty sure any speed differences are going to come down to the differences between TouchWiz and Sense, not the specs on the phone.
And therefore, ATT One XL with the extended battery and the Krait S4 chip will probably perform better than the SG3 by the same degree that testing shows that it already performs better than the Tegra 3 One X.

Both of these phones have pretty awesome specs, so in that respect, I think personal preference is going to overrule anything else.
BUT, I have the Amaze 4G, and HTC has made it impossible (so far) to make a ROM that isn't based on their own Sense based ROM. As far as what I can see, HTC's One line is going to be even harder to develop. I enjoy trying different ROMs way too much to stick with HTC from this point forward (unless HTC changes their evil ways ).
As far as the different launchers, I haven't ever really liked a stock launcher on Samsung, HTC, or even LG (I think Cyanogenmod finally got it right with Trebuchet in their CM9 builds). I almost always put in a custom launcher.

i like samsung galaxy s3
ram management in htc one x is si bad

Let's take a look at the facts:
Screen :We will see who has the better screen when the reviews are released.
Proccesor :As shown on the becnhmarks the SGS3 is the faster one.
GPU :Again the SGS3 as shown by the recent benchmarks
Battery :SGS3 has an exchangable batter the HTC One X does not.SGS3 has also the bigger battery.
MicroSD :SGS3
Front camera :SGS3 again 1.3 vs 2.0 MPX
Back camera :Still unknown who has the better camera,but that will be revelead soon.
Storage:SGS3 again 64 GB + micro SD ,HTC ONE X 32 GB no microsd
Design :That's a matter of taste.
The SGS3 is obviously the better phone hardware wise plus it has many more features like eye tracking and S voice that the HTC ONE X lacks.

- UI I could care less what each has. I'm an XDA member and never have stock... lol.
- Processors sound like they'll be identical on the US phones, so that's a non-issue for me as well.
- HTC's lack of SD is a bit worrisome for me since the US only has 16 GB. That may limit what I can store, especially as apps get bigger and bigger. So there's one mark against the One X for me.
- Screens, the Galaxy is a tiny bit bigger, but I need to see peoples reviews that have been able to spend time with both to judge. What's on paper doesn't always matter.
- Camera is kind of important to me. I'm sick of my Captivates crappy camera. Reviews of the One X make it sound like it's awesome. I haven't seen much mention of the S3's yet besides "it looks good". Will have to see how reviewers rate it. It also sounded like the models they were showcasing weren't the final product for the camera either or am I just imagining things?
- GPS is important to me too. Again.. Captivate.... OMG!! I've heard nothing bad yet about the One X, and heard nothing about the S3, so we'll see.
- Aesthetics, build quality, etc... meh, whatever. It's a phone. It sits in my pocket. It goes in my hand and I look at the screen. I don't really care all that much what other people think of my phone while I'm mesmerized by the screen. If panels are falling off, buttons breaking etc. yeah that's bad but I'm pretty confident that won't happen on either phone.
So given that the One X already has a mark against it due to the lack of SD card slot and tiny 16 GB storage (I'm on a 2 GB plan, not unlimited so cloud and stuff isn't a very viable option for me) the S3 would have to have a crappy camera and or faulty GPS for me to consider the One X over it I think.

My Design for the "Nexus 4"

I'm a big fan of the One S, and think that it would be great hardware, when tweaked a bit, for a more "casual" Nexus that could actually compete with the iPhone. Due to the moniker, Nexus 7, it would be called the Nexus 4.
Changes from One S to Nexus 4:
Keep 4.3" screen size, but with One X quality. Higher brightness and > 300ppi.
Cut off the hardware buttons to reduce the vertical size and weight of the phone.
Bump ram to 2GB.
Pure Google
So what do you think? Any changes? Do you think it's a good idea? Could you see a large casual market adopting this phone in a similar way to the iPhone?
Here's a quick mockup: Nexus 4

thanamesjames said:
I'm a big fan of the One S, and think that it would be great hardware, when tweaked a bit, for a more "casual" Nexus that could actually compete with the iPhone. Due to the moniker, Nexus 7, it would be called the Nexus 4.
Changes from One S to Nexus 4:
Keep 4.3" screen size, but with One X quality. Higher brightness and > 300ppi.
Cut off the hardware buttons to reduce the vertical size and weight of the phone.
Bump ram to 2GB.
Pure Google
So what do you think? Any changes? Do you think it's a good idea? Could you see a large casual market adopting this phone in a similar way to the iPhone?
Here's a quick mockup: Nexus 4
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The Design of the One S is amazing and would not change it too much, maybe a slight change to the backing so it doesnt slip of the hand. Screen Size 4.3" to 4.5". Removable battery and edge to edge display.

Yeah would be nice, but without the hardware buttons it looks a little bit ****ty.
If I helped in any way please hit thanks

thanamesjames said:
I'm a big fan of the One S, and think that it would be great hardware, when tweaked a bit, for a more "casual" Nexus that could actually compete with the iPhone. Due to the moniker, Nexus 7, it would be called the Nexus 4.
Changes from One S to Nexus 4:
Keep 4.3" screen size, but with One X quality. Higher brightness and > 300ppi.
Cut off the hardware buttons to reduce the vertical size and weight of the phone.
Bump ram to 2GB.
Pure Google
So what do you think? Any changes? Do you think it's a good idea? Could you see a large casual market adopting this phone in a similar way to the iPhone?
Here's a quick mockup: Nexus 4
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Add a good notification led (the one on the One S sucks) that's compatible with light flow and I'd get one!
-Sent from my Razr M.-

Thanks God it just a your design man
DualCore is too old.
We need:
Chipset: Qualcomm MDM9615/APQ8064
CPU: Quad-core 1.5 GHz Krait
GPU: Adreno 320
F*** the "LG"
But check the damn performance of new S4 PRO:
1:30

Meh, what sort of flagship device would have a mid range phone screen size? Or better yet, why would they downgrade from the Galaxy Nexus?

Hgaara said:
Meh, what sort of flagship device would have a mid range phone screen size? Or better yet, why would they downgrade from the Galaxy Nexus?
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If they keep going for bigger screens, then the nexus 8 will be a tablet

r0man.de said:
If they keep going for bigger screens, then the nexus 8 will be a tablet
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Yes, 4.3 to 4.5 max for a phone for me, have no qualms with screen size of HOS.
Sent from my HTC One S using xda app-developers app

avetny said:
Thanks God it just a your design man
DualCore is too old.
We need:
Chipset: Qualcomm MDM9615/APQ8064
CPU: Quad-core 1.5 GHz Krait
GPU: Adreno 320
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What, noo, we neeeeed 6 Core everything other is just way too old, because everyone knows 2 cores in a phone just isn't enough and every app uses at least 4 Cores!!!!!!! 5GHz has to be, anything else won't bring me to the top of the bench!! Has no real world needs, but who cared, SPECS!!!!!!

Trying to make it as realistic as possible whilst also powerful:
1.5GHz quad-core Qualcomm APQ8064
Adreno 320 GPU
4.7", 720p Super AMOLED HD (non-pentile), manufactured by Sharp
1.5GB RAM
12MP Camera with burst-shot function
On-screen buttons
32GB Storage, no SD card slot
25GB Dropbox space

usaff22 said:
Trying to make it as realistic as possible whilst also powerful:
1.5GHz quad-core Qualcomm APQ8064
Adreno 320 GPU
4.7", 720p Super AMOLED HD (non-pentile), manufactured by Sharp
1.5GB RAM
12MP Camera with burst-shot function
On-screen buttons
32GB Storage, no SD card slot
25GB Dropbox space
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THIS.

Why are there no high end 4" android phones? Does everyone think bigger is better?

Why are there no high end 4" android phones? Does everyone think bigger is better?
This article raised a very good question I've been wondering for a while now too:
http://www.zdnet.com/dear-android-manufacturers-please-sell-me-the-phone-that-i-want-7000006437/
There are plenty of android phones to choose from. But every North American manufacturer's flagship phones are 4.6+ inches and they just seem to be getting bigger! I don't want a bigger phone...but I want flagship hardware. How many >4.5 inch android phones have top tier hardware (quadcore, HD screen, top end GPU). ZERO.:crying:
The one thing I think Apple has right is the size of the iPhone 5. It fits very comfortably in your hand. I can fit the Galaxy Nexus in one hand, but I cannot reach all areas of the screen with my thumb if I have 4 fingers gripping the side of the phone. I can stretch if I put my pinky on the bottom and only 3 on the side, but if I add a case to the mix then it becomes uncomfortable again.
Now I admit I have smaller hands, but I'm sure others have this issue as well. I just was shocked to read through the comments on the story to see how many people avidly almost "attacked" the author for his opinion. Thinking it was ridiculous to expect options like this. And that people with smaller hands should just be content with outdated hardware on smaller phones.
Anyone else who wish the sizes would go back down? Or at least have options of smaller models with the same high end hardware? Was really hoping for a 4-4.3" Nexus 4...but I know that's not going to happen Oh well...here's to hoping it might happen with the Nexus 5...

I think it has to do with utility anymore. Screen size is pretty much a deciding factor for most because of what they can do or what they feel they need with their device. I agree with you on size but do not think one handing your phone shouldn't be a factor.
However, 4" is a nice juicy screen size for anyone. But then again there is the utility thing to think about. Who really uses a smart phone just to make calls or view an email/text anymore?
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lowbudge said:
I think it has to do with utility anymore. Screen size is pretty much a deciding factor for most because of what they can do or what they feel they need with their device. I agree with you on size but do not think one handing your phone shouldn't be a factor.
However, 4" is a nice juicy screen size for anyone. But then again there is the utility thing to think about. Who really uses a smart phone just to make calls or view an email/text anymore?
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to be honest i am absolutely agree with u.
now adays smartphone is used for browsing and multimedia rather than make a call and sms or email.
u can get samsung galaxy s3 mini at least.
IMHO. nexus series will look like this in the future. i believe google has make some kind of standardization of their phone model.
4.65 with a shape like galnex.
its not the screen size that i really concern. but the battery life...

There is a high end phone that's 4" its called the Droid Incredible 4G LTE
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Screens are huge because we demand high definition screens. 720x1280 doesn't come cheap in a 4inch screen. Also leaves more room for battery and the extra lte antenna.

The new Galaxy S3 Mini just came out! It has the SPECS of a flagship devices, but has a 4" screen!

I prefer big displays mainly because tiny onscreen keyboards are hard to use.

Alton (Halo 2) said:
There is a high end phone that's 4" its called the Droid Incredible 4G LTE
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I guess I should have been more clear in my title. I meant 4" flagship devices, top tier...not just "high end". The Droid is only dual core, 1GB of ram, 8GB of storage and isn't 720P.
063_XOBX said:
Screens are huge because we demand high definition screens. 720x1280 doesn't come cheap in a 4inch screen. Also leaves more room for battery and the extra lte antenna.
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Take a look at the specs of the Chinese phone listed in the article...
"720p 4.3-inch screen with a Retina-display-busting pixel density of 342ppi. Quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor, 2GB of RAM, Jelly Bean and up to 32GB of storage. No microSD, sadly, and of course there may be support and warranty issues, but this ideally-sized powerhouse will retail at less than £250."
So It can be done. And on the affordable side even (~$400). My question is why is there no equivalent of this in the North American market?

colonelcack said:
I guess I should have been more clear in my title. I meant 4" flagship devices, top tier...not just "high end". The Droid is only dual core, 1GB of ram, 8GB of storage and isn't 720P.
Take a look at the specs of the Chinese phone listed in the article...
"720p 4.3-inch screen with a Retina-display-busting pixel density of 342ppi. Quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor, 2GB of RAM, Jelly Bean and up to 32GB of storage. No microSD, sadly, and of course there may be support and warranty issues, but this ideally-sized powerhouse will retail at less than £250."
So It can be done. And on the affordable side even (~$400). My question is why is there no equivalent of this in the North American market?
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4.3 with buttons is the same profile as the Galaxy Nexus without. Maybe a little narrower.

063_XOBX said:
4.3 with buttons is the same profile as the Galaxy Nexus without. Maybe a little narrower.
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I didn't think about the buttons. I guess I couldn't really say unless I held it in my hands, but it seems noticeably smaller on paper:
Xiaomi MI-2 Dimensions:
126 x 62 x 10.2 mm (4.96 x 2.44 x 0.40 in)
VS
Samsung Galaxy Nexus I9250 Dimensions:
135.5 x 67.9 x 8.9 mm (5.33 x 2.67 x 0.35 in)
Not a HUGE difference...again, I'd prefer a 4" phone where the difference would be more noticeable. But if these specs can be squeezed into 4.3" on the cheap from a no name brand, my point is it's definitely possible to do 4" from a big name brand manufacturer.

colonelcack said:
I guess I should have been more clear in my title. I meant 4" flagship devices, top tier...not just "high end". The Droid is only dual core, 1GB of ram, 8GB of storage and isn't 720P.
Take a look at the specs of the Chinese phone listed in the article...
"720p 4.3-inch screen with a Retina-display-busting pixel density of 342ppi. Quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor, 2GB of RAM, Jelly Bean and up to 32GB of storage. No microSD, sadly, and of course there may be support and warranty issues, but this ideally-sized powerhouse will retail at less than £250."
So It can be done. And on the affordable side even (~$400). My question is why is there no equivalent of this in the North American market?
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I think part of the reason there isn't much interest in a north American equivalent, is because, it's a common myth throughout the world that we believe 'bigger is better' ...
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crazaytalent said:
I think part of the reason there isn't much interest in a north American equivalent, is because, it's a common myth throughout the world that we believe 'bigger is better' ...
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It is a common idea in North America that "bigger is better," as well as "more is better." Just check out the average BMI in the US... kinda high up there.... and it ain't muscle mass.... check out Texas as an example.
I too was very concerned with my future phone before I upgraded to the Gnex. I had a 4.3" Droid Charge. I thought that anything over 4.5" was pushing my limits, but I slowly became very comfortable with the current Gnex size. However, I still do not want anything larger than 4.65"... so I'm hoping the future Nexus phones after the Nexus 4 don't get any bigger.
Side note: w00t SF Giants FTW!!!!!

I think the current nexus screen size is perfect imo

maybe the nexus 3 will grant your wish?

I guess your the odd one out that manufacturers don't care about
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High end Android phone will never be released in 4inch. That's how they make them different from iphone in the first place. There are more ppl want bigger phone. And tbh, ppl use both hand to type even on iphone... 4inch high end flagship phone is... meh... it will never happen..
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colonelcack said:
I guess I should have been more clear in my title. I meant 4" flagship devices, top tier...not just "high end". The Droid is only dual core, 1GB of ram, 8GB of storage and isn't 720P.
Take a look at the specs of the Chinese phone listed in the article...
"720p 4.3-inch screen with a Retina-display-busting pixel density of 342ppi. Quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor, 2GB of RAM, Jelly Bean and up to 32GB of storage. No microSD, sadly, and of course there may be support and warranty issues, but this ideally-sized powerhouse will retail at less than £250."
So It can be done. And on the affordable side even (~$400). My question is why is there no equivalent of this in the North American market?
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The Chinese manufactured phones (xaomi etc) are produced in small amounts and are only cheap because of excess chip production. They're really hard to find in any market.
The Droid Incredible LTE is a great phone. The Snapdragon S4 is no slouch and the screen is rather beautiful. If you're expecting a 720p screen on a 4 inch device...please...come down to earth with the rest of us. The only way you're getting that is if you buy an iPhone or somehow get your hands on one of the Chinese phones.
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Smokeey said:
The Chinese manufactured phones (xaomi etc) are produced in small amounts and are only cheap because of excess chip production. They're really hard to find in any market.
The Droid Incredible LTE is a great phone. The Snapdragon S4 is no slouch and the screen is rather beautiful. If you're expecting a 720p screen on a 4 inch device...please...come down to earth with the rest of us. The only way you're getting that is if you buy an iPhone or somehow get your hands on one of the Chinese phones.
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iphone 5 is not a 720p display... close but not a true 720p
http://www.zdnet.com/will-the-iphone-5-display-remain-competitive-7000004012/

A 4" top tier device now would probably be way more costly to manufacture than the usual 4.5"+ screen size device. And there will probably be very very few quad cores, if any in a device that small. Battery and all the other top tier accoutrements just won't be feasible. You will have to settle for a sacrifice somewhere. Last years top end specs in 4" form factor is probably best you can expect for a year or two.
Off topic but I wish Samsung took a chance on the galaxy premier and made it just like the nexus instead of Samsung's typical hardware button accompanied by two capacitive buttons. Better GPU and CPU. And add stock android. Samsung is probably too scared to lose any marketshare by alienating a device. What is wrong with taking small chances on a mid end device? All the people skipping the lg nexus 4 would probably take a serious at the i9260 if it had Google's now standard software navigation, with upgraded specs aaaaaaand a SD card slot. Smdh Samsung.
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Zepius said:
iphone 5 is not a 720p display... close but not a true 720p
http://www.zdnet.com/will-the-iphone-5-display-remain-competitive-7000004012/
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My point exactly though. You can't get true 720p in a 4 inch screen and if you did you'd have to use a microscope to read anything.
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