Lousy Quadrant Score on CNA 1.5.5 - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys
I just installed Codename Android 1.5.5 + Matr1x Kernel 18.0 after using CM9 nightly 0304 + Matr1x Kernel 17.5 for a while. I used to run CNA 1.4 but stopped using that as it got very slow after a few hours.
The Quadrant score I was getting on CM9+Matr1x 17.5 was around 2000 with no overclock. Now that I am running CNA 1.5.5 + Matr1x 18.0 i'm only getting a score around 1100...
The ROM feels fine and snappy, but this low score worries me. Is this normal or does this maybe mean there's a problem somewhere?
Thanks!

I'm on same rom same kernel and overclocked to 1430 and only getting 1400s

Ok, so I guess this is normal...
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I am running 1.5.5, with Air Kernel 3.6, scary governor and overclocked to 1400, I scored around 2600 with this set up on Quadrant.
I tested the rom after flashing it and it scored it at 1100.
Oh I applied the BM tweaks from CNA utility as well
I am waiting to see how the ram holds up, 1.40 would drain after a few hours, as how the battery lasts, so far it is looking good on both of those items.
I haven't tried to many roms, I liked this one as son as I loaded it, loads all my apps from the market, seems very stable even with it overclocked.
I have read that Gingerbread is really stable and fast but I don't want to loose my native music.flac support on this rom. I have read that 4.04 and 4.05 will have better battery, I am hoping so, as I don't want to go backward to Gingerbread unless I have to.

I applied brain masters tweaks and went from around 1100 to 1800 with no overclock and the rom feels much better now. Now I'll just have to see about battery life but I'm a happy man at the moment
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Quadrant score isn't everything. User experience is a lot more important than benchmarks.
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You are absolutely right. I use the benchmark simply to measure how the rom is before I get a good feel for it. In this case it feels much better after the tweaks.
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ljordan2 said:
Quadrant score isn't everything. User experience is a lot more important than benchmarks.
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yep .. +1 to that

Clean install using BM rom wipe + Air 3.6 + BM tweaks from CNA1.4 + Deep idle patch for 1.5.5
Deadline + ondemand 100 - 800 with Up Threshold @ 95%.
After 16hrs I've got 68% battery left
Q score between 2000 & 2100 when set to 1000MHz
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ljordan2 said:
Quadrant score isn't everything. User experience is a lot more important than benchmarks.
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I completely agree to this.. I rely on the feel of the ROM when I use them..

ljordan2 said:
Quadrant score isn't everything. User experience is a lot more important than benchmarks.
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FULL ACK...!

I'm still using 1.4.0 with Air Kernel 3.6 and the supercharger script. I have insanely good performance though battery life has taken a hit over the last few days.
I would like to install BM's tweaks though I'm not sure which version goes with this particular ROM.

If you want higher Quadrant scores try the Trinity T144 kernels. But Quadrant Standard says nothing about the performance of the ROM.. it's just a score.

Yeah, quadrant score isn't everything. The ROM feels fine now but I'm getting the occational freeze requiring a battery pull. I've been running with no overclock but at the moment am running 100/1300 Lulzactive with no issues so far.
Battery life is not good though. I'm at about 50% after 7 hours on battery with light usage

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Running above 1.0ghz

If you are running above 1.0ghz, can you share your experience?
Good, bad or meh?
What's your setup?
Mine is Stock ROM + debloated + Faux UV Kernel clocked at 1.0.
Battery life is ok, about 6-8hrs after using constantly.
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At 1.1ghz my phone reboots randomly sometimes. I'm using morfic kernel.
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Running faux aosp rom with faux oc/uv kernel @ 1.5 getting 10-12 hrs of normal use. And it runs buttery smooth
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blestsol said:
At 1.1ghz my phone reboots randomly sometimes. I'm using morfic kernel.
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I am using CM7, faux .35 kernel up to 1.55 and the new baseband with the update. I currently only have it set at 1.1ghz, no problems and super fast, with moderate/heavy use today I am still at 20% after about 9 hours. and at 1.1ghz I am getting around 3300 quadrant scores. I played around with the max 1.55 and the phone was smooth and fast, quadrant scores close to 5K, and it didn't feel any hotter than normal.
The only lag I got was when I lowered the mV's so I kept them where they were and no problems.
On my other ROM I am using xboarders stock GB +Root, and the stock kernel w/ new baseband and that one runs super smooth too, but of course I can't OC.
Nice to know what everyone is using.
I forgot too mention I'm using profiles and I just overclocked it to 1.55ghz.
Running smooth and not hotter than normal.
I got a profile in case it overheats to clock down to 800ghz.
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My phone doesn't like to be overclocked...its fast for a few hours but then wants to reboot
dmartin1976 said:
I am using CM7, faux .35 kernel up to 1.55 and the new baseband with the update. I currently only have it set at 1.1ghz, no problems and super fast, with moderate/heavy use today I am still at 20% after about 9 hours. and at 1.1ghz I am getting around 3300 quadrant scores. I played around with the max 1.55 and the phone was smooth and fast, quadrant scores close to 5K, and it didn't feel any hotter than normal.
The only lag I got was when I lowered the mV's so I kept them where they were and no problems.
On my other ROM I am using xboarders stock GB +Root, and the stock kernel w/ new baseband and that one runs super smooth too, but of course I can't OC.
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Cool..
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I tried the 1.5GHz overclock, but it kept shutting down on me. :/
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Running 1.4ghz and running like a well oiled hemi....just wish my battery would be better
Ultimate rom with faux kernel
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fabricatedhero said:
Running 1.4ghz and running like a well oiled hemi....just wish my battery would be better
Ultimate rom with faux kernel
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Ultimate 1.0 was VERY stable for me

to many kernals

hey guys i just need a little bit help here.
im new to the sensation
and i am running Bulletproof 2.2.1
and its very slow, and i even get a ****ty score on quadrant
and i see there are several kernals out there and i wanted to know witch ones are compatible with sense 3.5 bulletproof
and witch one is the best one. by best i mean faster overclocked
thanks in advance
You can try Faux or Bricked, both are great.
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Faux 0.2.3 is out soon with a whole host of new features, I've found that I can't get Faux 1.89Ghz version to work (boot loops) but it may work for you. Due to this I use Bricked kernel and then I can overclock (if I want to) up to 1.72Ghz which seems to be the max for my chip!
Here's a really good kernel 2.6.35.14-Bricked-v 1.2-gpuoc 320-ondmnd [email protected] #6 this is what I use and It's awesome so far I've been useing this kernel for three days and It's lighting fast
I'm on BP also and while quadrant is low with stock, I've found stock kernel to be smooth and stable. Today I did flash bricked 1.4, and while my CF scores and quadrant went up significanty, I had lag on homescreens and games like asphalt 6 hd. I have no idea what the problem was. It could have been my Rom, or the way I flashed bricked kernel because I have read so many positives with using bricked.
I went back to stock kernel and all is smooth again, but with low benchmarking scores....
So I guess I'm saying take benchmark scores with a grain of salt. Although it would be nice to have my cake and it too.
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whats you quadrant score? i flashed that kernal but i had problems with 3D and he said he fixed it on the latest version 1.4. and when i used setcpu my phone kept rebooting
I don't remember my quadrant score, but CF bench score was really high with bricked 1.4, above GS2.
Now back to stock kernel my CF bench is back to around 5000. Just under the atrix scores.
(But with stock I have no issues with with gameloft games, no lag in asphalt 6 hd.)
I will probably try again in the near future as it could have been user error on my part.
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Fk quadrant scores! It all depends on how ur phone is running
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g1user101 said:
Fk quadrant scores! It all depends on how ur phone is running
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I agree!
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gustav30 said:
I don't remember my quadrant score, but CF bench score was really high with bricked 1.4, above GS2.
Now back to stock kernel my CF bench is back to around 5000. Just under the atrix scores.
(But with stock I have no issues with with gameloft games, no lag in asphalt 6 hd.)
I will probably try again in the near future as it could have been user error on my part.
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talking about games i havent be able to play them on any rom. some says its not supported and somes dont have the 3d graphics on them
Do the current kernels all have these problems? I would like to know this before I get this phone. And I noticed someone OC'd to 1.8GHz, is this to fix lag or just for fun? Such OC would lead me to question the Sensation's speed quite a bit. Sorry for hijacking the thread, didn't want to make a new one.
Do the current kernels all have these problems? I would like to know this before I get this phone. And I noticed someone OC'd to 1.8GHz, is this to fix lag or just for fun? Such OC would lead me to question the Sensation's speed quite a bit. Sorry for hijacking the thread, didn't want to make a new one.
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I am running CM7 SelfKang9, with Faux's AOSP 0.2 Kenrnel (1.78ghz OC) and undervolt (Thermal Patch). Everything is smooth as butter and battery life is beyond excellent (getting avg 6mA idle). If you're interested in benchmarks, I have gotten as high as a 6499 AnTuTu score, and a 7424 in CF bench. It does run fine at its rated speed of 1.5ghz, I'm just always gunning for that extra speed.
Edit: For Comparison, my friend has an Atrix, using CM 7.1 and Faux with a 1.3 ghz OC, and he was getting slightly slower benches (6000 AnTuTu). Although both phones run great.
I'm using pyramid3d 8.0.1 along with the bricked 1.2 kernel.
Runs perfect. No lags, and no other problems, although quadrant scores are really low. Quadrant really means nothing IMO.
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pardoned said:
I'm using pyramid3d 8.0.1 along with the bricked 1.2 kernel.
Runs perfect. No lags, and no other problems, although quadrant scores are really low. Quadrant really means nothing IMO.
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Sense has a nice bug from HTC that affects Quad & other benches negatively, this can be fixed by using AOSP/CM/MIUI, I noticed this on my previous phones. I think HTC has some lingering debugging enabled in Sense.
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I am running CM7 SelfKang9, with Faux's AOSP 0.2 Kenrnel (1.78ghz OC) and undervolt (Thermal Patch). Everything is smooth as butter and battery life is beyond excellent (getting avg 6mA idle). If you're interested in benchmarks, I have gotten as high as a 6499 AnTuTu score, and a 7424 in CF bench. It does run fine at its rated speed of 1.5ghz, I'm just always gunning for that extra speed.
Edit: For Comparison, my friend has an Atrix, using CM 7.1 and Faux with a 1.3 ghz OC, and he was getting slightly slower benches (6000 AnTuTu). Although both phones run great.
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Thanks for clearing things up for me, I was worried that the phone had speed issues and the OC was to fix that, now I'm not worried with that anymore. Hopefully I order mines next week, but I plan on undervolting & underclocking, just as I did on my MT4G. Although you benches have restored my confidence in the phone.

Newbie here looking for advice on a ROM

I am currently using DlevROM and it seems to be working alright, but I am looking for additional input from you guys. I am mainly concerned about battery life and gaming performance, so any recommendations there?
Thanks!
I recommend you download the Infusion GB 1.1 kernel and flash using SGS Kernel Flasher. It dramatically boosts 2d/3d performance when benchmarking, and I haven't noticed any major changes in battery drain. It'll also let you overclock, but I haven't really done much with that. Running Dlev I set it to 1400 MHz and it runs smooth as butter, I get around 3200-3800 from quadrant, just over 4000 from antutu.
Agreed with the above. Roms are a matter of preference as there a lot of good roms. Kernal will help you more. I am using infusion core a2 and the roms are running great. I like fusion (for now) as they have many customizable items in the rom that are great. I just changed the theme (went with sepia) though as I did not care for the pink and purple. The rest runs great.
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Scott's CleanKernel v. IMO's leanKernel

IMO updated his TouchWiz kernel yesterday. Up until today I was using Scott's CleanKernel. Both are amazing kernels in my eyes. Both kernels are undervolted and overclocked. I had no issues with CleanKernel at all. I always seems to have bad battery life on the leanKernel until I flashed the updated .4 version this morning. Battery life seems much better compared to any leanKernel before the update. When running CleanKernel, I got a quadrant score of 4980. With leanKernel 0.4 I got 5160, both at stock 1.5GHz. I just want to see if others have noticed what I have between these two kernels.
You forgot that both are released in the Development section. A place where this thread does NOT belong...
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how do i move or delete it?
vx2ko said:
how do i move or delete it?
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A mod will move it in when they get a chance.
Just so you know in the future,
if your not a developer its always safe to open up new threads in the Q and A section. (At least that's my rule for myself.. it saves you from the "I'm having a bad day so I will take it out on this guy" post)
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A mod will move it in when they get a chance.
Just so you know in the future,
if your not a developer its always safe to open up new threads in the Q and A section. (At least that's my rule for myself.. it saves you from the "I'm having a bad day so I will take it out on this guy" post)
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XDA needs more people like you. Great reply and it made sense.
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This was handled nicely, thanks guys!
In the future OP pay attention to where you post and
read forum rules and stickies before posting
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Now that this has been moved can we get back on topic? What is yalls experience with these two kernels?
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personally i like leankernal because of how light and simple it is. no unneccesary weight and battery life is great.
Clean kernel is closer to stock than imos kernel which is kinda good and bad. The more you modify the kernel the more chance you'll have of breaking something but you also have the posabilty of making it way better if done right and everything comes out ok.
I would expect clean kernel to be more stable, less battery efficient, and a little slower overall. Where imos kernel could vary drastically with each update due to more major things being edited or changed. Right now imos beta. 4 has pretty good battery life over stock and is stable.
Personally I try the more modified stuff first and if I don't feel it pays off I move to something more stable or closer to stock until an update is released or problem addressed. Just my. 02
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vx2ko said:
Now that this has been moved can we get back on topic? What is yalls experience with these two kernels?
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Clean Kernel is under volt by default for a given frequency. That is why the battery life is better. If you are looking for both performance and battery life, you should over clock Clean Kernel frequency to 1.89 (default is 1.5) max and min should be 400 range. GPU in Clean Kernel is also over clocked. "stable" is the key word to differentiate between the two. I would think that Clean Kernel is the most stable kernel of all. For speed they should be the same, for bells and whistles, Lean kernel would be your choice. To sum up, Clean Kernel give you both world, stable, performance and battery life... unless you want something else beside those 3.
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Clean kernel is closer to stock than imos kernel which is kinda good and bad. The more you modify the kernel the more chance you'll have of breaking something but you also have the posabilty of making it way better if done right and everything comes out ok.
I would expect clean kernel to be more stable, less battery efficient, and a little slower overall. Where imos kernel could vary drastically with each update due to more major things being edited or changed. Right now imos beta. 4 has pretty good battery life over stock and is stable.
Personally I try the more modified stuff first and if I don't feel it pays off I move to something more stable or closer to stock until an update is released or problem addressed. Just my. 02
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I agree with you on the kernel changing concept. And I have also noticed that .4 is much better than .3
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buhohitr said:
Clean Kernel is under volt by default for a given frequency. That is why the battery life is better. If you are looking for both performance and battery life, you should over clock Clean Kernel frequency to 1.89 (default is 1.5) max and min should be 400 range. GPU in Clean Kernel is also over clocked. "stable" is the key word to differentiate between the two. I would think that Clean Kernel is the most stable kernel of all. For speed they should be the same, for bells and whistles, Lean kernel would be your choice. To sum up, Clean Kernel give you both world, stable, performance and battery life... unless you want something else beside those 3.
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So you're a cleankernel guy? I definitely agree with you about this being all three things. So as far as the GPU being overclocked, why does lean kernel .4 perform better in games
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So you're a cleankernel guy? I definitely agree with you about this being all three things. So as far as the GPU being overclocked, why does lean kernel .4 perform better in games
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Like I have mentioned, if you aiming for gaming performance then you better to use lean, but then your battery life wouldn't be too good. Most of people just want a fast stable phone and a good battery life for daily use, then Clean will be a better choice. The reason it's stable because no tweaks to it except for OC/UV. Have you tried to play game with Clean over clocked to 1.89?
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Like I have mentioned, if you aiming for gaming performance then you better to use lean, but then your battery life wouldn't be too good. Most of people just want a fast stable phone and a good battery life for daily use, then Clean will be a better choice. The reason it's stable because no tweaks to it except for OC/UV. Have you tried to play game with Clean over clocked to 1.89?
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Actually I never thought of overclocking and playing the game until now. I guess Im just used to being at stock. But I will give it a try and see how that works. But what your saying definitely makes sense and should clear some things up. Performace + battery life = cleankernel. PERFORMANCE + PERFORMANCE = leankernel. Although the battery life on leankernel has dramatically been improved.
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Actually I never thought of overclocking and playing the game until now. I guess Im just used to being at stock. But I will give it a try and see how that works. But what your saying definitely makes sense and should clear some things up. Performace + battery life = cleankernel. PERFORMANCE + PERFORMANCE = leankernel. Although the battery life on leankernel has dramatically been improved.
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Haha.. you got it...almost.. Performance+battery life+stable=Clean. Super perfornance -less battery life - 10% stable=Lean kernel. Good luck bro.
ok I just setup an app profile in setcpu. so now everytime im in my game, its overclocked. When im using it normally, its at stock speed. With the screen off, its at min 190 and max 452. so far so good!
.5 is up now with more fixes.
http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/31329-[kernel][touchwiz]-Leankernel:-Minimalistic-Kernel-(8/28---v0.5)
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Thanks for the heads up! More battery drain fixes. Although it says in order to revert back to stock we have to flash a ROM with a kernel. Would a nan backup work? Anyone tests the kernel yet

Benchmark scores...

Exactly what do these scores mean along with what is the norm? I have CleanRom 5.5.1 w/ LeanKernel 1.2.1.
Stock JB
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what the scores mean? its running slow?
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what the scores mean? its running slow?
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To my understanding it's an estimated test of the processing power/speed of the chipset.
Idk what up with you guys phone but here's mine..
This is stock everything. No root.
Your not that far from me that I should be worried.
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I don't understand how you guys all get such high scores. I've never gone above 4600 on Stock or CM10.......nothing overclocked. Do you guys do some crazy preparation on your phone prior to running tests to get such high scores?
I just flashed the ROM and Kernel and reinstalled all my apps for me...then ran it. If its anything, I kill all apps.
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I just flashed the ROM and Kernel and reinstalled all my apps for me...then ran it. If its anything, I kill all apps.
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I did the same
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Very decent battery life.
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Benchmarks are really inconsistent in these programs. As long as you think it's fast on YOUR phone, that's all that counts.
Synergy ROM and l535VRBLK3 Modem and the Ktoonsez KT747 Kernel Overclocked to 2106 Mhz
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u9hkv1dozz2fryx/Screenshot_2012-12-17-16-07-56.png
stock unrooted on the jellybean ota update.
6390, getting 6000+ consistently now!
Any running geek bench? I'd like to see those too
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Synergy ROM and l535VRBLK3 Modem and the Ktoonsez KT747 Kernel Overclocked to 2106 Mhz
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That's not too impressive for that kind of OC is it? I'm getting 6082 with a completely stock ROM.
I can try it out if you are really interested and post it
The thing with benchmark tests is consistency. Whether it's a PC or a phone, run your benchmark tests under the same conditions or else you'll get unpredictable results. Me, I shut down the phone, pull the battery, reinstall, boot... then wait a few minutes for everything to settle down... then run the test. Background processes will effect your results.
Other than bragging rights, benchmark absolute numbers mean little. They ARE helpful to see what individual changes do...especially helpful after an update or after flashing a new ROM. And use several tests. I have Quadrant Standard, AnTuTu, NenaMark 1 and 2, and Linpack. Also, SunSpider is a great JavaScript test that runs in your browser...meaning you can compare devices running Android, WebOS, iOS, WinX...or even RIM if you're one of the dozen or so people who still use a Blackberry. Lower numbers are better, since the score is in milliseconds to complete the tests.
http://www.webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9.1/sunspider-0.9.1/driver.html

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