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I'm currently running ec10 PnP with the green steel theme. I noticed my quadrant score stayed about the same as it was on stock. Is there a rom that provides better performance without a huge loss in functionality?
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I didn't really see any difference in performance between ROM's myself. It wasn't untill I went to the Voodoo Kernels that I saw my Lindpack scores and quadrant scores increase. Im running the PnP with nemisses OTB kernel. Im getting about 16 on lindpack and between 1400 and 1500 on quad.
Also quad scores and not completely reliable so I rely mostly on lindpack for benchmarks.
Anywho, thats my 2 cents. Hope this helps
I've seen a huge difference between ROMs. You crazy homey g.
LOL, I guess I should have added that I haven't tried the AOSP or the MIUI. My main thing was I saw the most difference when I went from the Stock kernel to the Voodoo Kernels. But thats just me. I guess its differenct for everybody depending on what there trying to get out of your phone. For me it has been battery life without sacrificing performance.
And yeah, I am a little nuts, but thats just me, LOL
Thanks for the input. I will search around and see what I can dig up. About to flash superfrakenclean to see what it does
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Any of the AOSP (miui, cm6) stuff will be "faster" than the touchwiz(sfc, pnp) stuff. It just comes down to your personal preferences but there is a definite speed difference between roms just as there is between voodoo and non voodoo. Using an overclocked kernel will also speed you up. Try em out see what you like. the real performance lies in how you use it and that it works for you
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I am also wondering the same as the OP. Currently I am running sFc 2.9.2 with the OTB kernel and undervolting. I am looking for better battery performance with stock speeds.
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I am also wondering the same as the OP. Currently I am running sFc 2.9.2 with the OTB kernel and undervolting. I am looking for better battery performance with stock speeds.
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You guys that are running sfc and otb kernel, did you have any issues with missed calls? I was having difficulty so flashed back to sfc with a tw kernel...no issues so far but battery life and performance are not as good.
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I haven't had the sfc on my phone but have been running OTB for a while and haven't had any issues with missing calls. Also have OTB on my wifes phone as well and she hadn't had any issues either.
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I recently got into the rooting and modding Scene.. and I wanted to flash a new Custom kernal for G2x I know about Faux and Morfic's Trinity kernal .. But couldnt decide between them ... i tried to install trinity when i had a CM7 7.1 stable release but the phone got stuck in a bootloop .. i am now running the latest nightly #217 with stock cm7 kernal .. Could you please reccoment wjich kernal should i Use??
I am mainly looking for Battery life and abilty to play games (Asphalt 6) thats about it.. (right now i have under volted my phone to 760 mhz)
Thanks guys
i run morfics extreme fun edition. its blazing. i have used faux123's kernels before but switched to trinity because it clocks higher and is more stable in my experience. also i like morfics boot animation better.
also with trinity my battery readings can be funky. like i will have wifi hotspot running for 30+mins and still get the same battery reading. but even though the readings are odd in my experience i have gotten more juice out of trinity.
Try em both and decide for yourself. Kernels are easy enough to test. Trinity is working very well for me with CM Nightly. Havent tried Faux, no need to. Trinity is stable and that's what matters to me most. Your mileage may vary though. Check em both out for a few days, and see what works best for you.
thank you guys .. I will try trinity out...
Well, I personally prefer Faux, but on a side note, you're not gonna get that great of a battery life playing games on it.
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well iv found that faux gives a slightly better batter life, about a day with heavy use but trinity is MUCH faster with about 4/5 of the day with heavy use
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well iv found that faux gives a slightly better batter life, about a day with heavy use but trinity is MUCH faster with about 4/5 of the day with heavy use
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Did you undervolt Trinity as far as you could?
I liked both and eventually settled in with Trinity.
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I flashed Hellfire Phoenix 1.8 with faux then flashed Trinity and I have to say performance is better with Trinity
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Did you undervolt Trinity as far as you could?
I liked both and eventually settled in with Trinity.
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Yupp undervolted it to as low as it would go I hav a really powerful chip
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Hey guys
I just installed Codename Android 1.5.5 + Matr1x Kernel 18.0 after using CM9 nightly 0304 + Matr1x Kernel 17.5 for a while. I used to run CNA 1.4 but stopped using that as it got very slow after a few hours.
The Quadrant score I was getting on CM9+Matr1x 17.5 was around 2000 with no overclock. Now that I am running CNA 1.5.5 + Matr1x 18.0 i'm only getting a score around 1100...
The ROM feels fine and snappy, but this low score worries me. Is this normal or does this maybe mean there's a problem somewhere?
Thanks!
I'm on same rom same kernel and overclocked to 1430 and only getting 1400s
Ok, so I guess this is normal...
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I am running 1.5.5, with Air Kernel 3.6, scary governor and overclocked to 1400, I scored around 2600 with this set up on Quadrant.
I tested the rom after flashing it and it scored it at 1100.
Oh I applied the BM tweaks from CNA utility as well
I am waiting to see how the ram holds up, 1.40 would drain after a few hours, as how the battery lasts, so far it is looking good on both of those items.
I haven't tried to many roms, I liked this one as son as I loaded it, loads all my apps from the market, seems very stable even with it overclocked.
I have read that Gingerbread is really stable and fast but I don't want to loose my native music.flac support on this rom. I have read that 4.04 and 4.05 will have better battery, I am hoping so, as I don't want to go backward to Gingerbread unless I have to.
I applied brain masters tweaks and went from around 1100 to 1800 with no overclock and the rom feels much better now. Now I'll just have to see about battery life but I'm a happy man at the moment
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Quadrant score isn't everything. User experience is a lot more important than benchmarks.
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You are absolutely right. I use the benchmark simply to measure how the rom is before I get a good feel for it. In this case it feels much better after the tweaks.
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Quadrant score isn't everything. User experience is a lot more important than benchmarks.
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yep .. +1 to that
Clean install using BM rom wipe + Air 3.6 + BM tweaks from CNA1.4 + Deep idle patch for 1.5.5
Deadline + ondemand 100 - 800 with Up Threshold @ 95%.
After 16hrs I've got 68% battery left
Q score between 2000 & 2100 when set to 1000MHz
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Quadrant score isn't everything. User experience is a lot more important than benchmarks.
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I completely agree to this.. I rely on the feel of the ROM when I use them..
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Quadrant score isn't everything. User experience is a lot more important than benchmarks.
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FULL ACK...!
I'm still using 1.4.0 with Air Kernel 3.6 and the supercharger script. I have insanely good performance though battery life has taken a hit over the last few days.
I would like to install BM's tweaks though I'm not sure which version goes with this particular ROM.
If you want higher Quadrant scores try the Trinity T144 kernels. But Quadrant Standard says nothing about the performance of the ROM.. it's just a score.
Yeah, quadrant score isn't everything. The ROM feels fine now but I'm getting the occational freeze requiring a battery pull. I've been running with no overclock but at the moment am running 100/1300 Lulzactive with no issues so far.
Battery life is not good though. I'm at about 50% after 7 hours on battery with light usage
HI guys
Im currently using MIUI US Rom ver 2.4.6 with stock kernel. can anyone recommend me a fast and stable kernel compatible with this rom?
Will these do the trick?
I've heard only good things about Trinity, but I stopped using MIUI a long time ago, it's pretty outdated at this point.
I personally use the Trinity kernel when running MIUI but some prefer Faux123's kernel. It tends to be you choose which ever one is the most stable for your phone as not all are created equal. The other thing to note is that if you flash the kernel straight from morfic it will cause you to loose the ability to set themes and keep them after a reboot.
I have the modified Trinity Kernels that you can get to try and they both are flashable from CWM and have the theme fixes.
They are both found here >>Trinity Kernel<<
If you want to know the difference between them go to morfics thread and the explanations are there.
thanks for the elaborated explanation and the Trinity builds. but what stability lose am i to experience? i flashed 4 hours ago ELP build and i have no problems with the themes.
You aren't necessarily going to experience stability issues. It is just a possibility you could. If you aren't then you will be fine.
I do suggest that you get setcpu so you can set the clock speed to the 1.1ghz that the kernel wants to default to but the os pushes it down to 1.0. But it is not a nessecity.
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I would use The Destroyer16. I've seen many MIUI G2x's run stable and decent battery life (with a little UV) with this kernel. Plus 1.6ghz max will rip benchmark scores like crazy. Only good for gb 2.3.7 MIUI IMO. You can find it in the huge Trinity thread under g2x development.
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I would use The Destroyer16. I've seen many MIUI G2x's run stable and decent battery life (with a little UV) with this kernel. Plus 1.6ghz max will rip benchmark scores like crazy. Only good for gb 2.3.7 MIUI IMO. You can find it in the huge Trinity thread under g2x development.
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dont do this unless you know what your doing. it works on any CM7 based rom, but its very unstable and really only used for testing and benchmarking.
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dont do this unless you know what your doing. it works on any CM7 based rom, but its very unstable and really only used for testing and benchmarking.
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Agreed.
Faux 49 kernel. Amazing battery life.
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I personally use the Trinity kernel when running MIUI but some prefer Faux123's kernel. It tends to be you choose which ever one is the most stable for your phone as not all are created equal. The other thing to note is that if you flash the kernel straight from morfic it will cause you to loose the ability to set themes and keep them after a reboot.
I have the modified Trinity Kernels that you can get to try and they both are flashable from CWM and have the theme fixes.
They are both found here >>Trinity Kernel<<
If you want to know the difference between them go to morfics thread and the explanations are there.
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Both zip don't work
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Both zip don't work
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They should work fine. I have been using them myself and others have used it with no problems.
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IMO updated his TouchWiz kernel yesterday. Up until today I was using Scott's CleanKernel. Both are amazing kernels in my eyes. Both kernels are undervolted and overclocked. I had no issues with CleanKernel at all. I always seems to have bad battery life on the leanKernel until I flashed the updated .4 version this morning. Battery life seems much better compared to any leanKernel before the update. When running CleanKernel, I got a quadrant score of 4980. With leanKernel 0.4 I got 5160, both at stock 1.5GHz. I just want to see if others have noticed what I have between these two kernels.
You forgot that both are released in the Development section. A place where this thread does NOT belong...
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how do i move or delete it?
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how do i move or delete it?
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A mod will move it in when they get a chance.
Just so you know in the future,
if your not a developer its always safe to open up new threads in the Q and A section. (At least that's my rule for myself.. it saves you from the "I'm having a bad day so I will take it out on this guy" post)
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A mod will move it in when they get a chance.
Just so you know in the future,
if your not a developer its always safe to open up new threads in the Q and A section. (At least that's my rule for myself.. it saves you from the "I'm having a bad day so I will take it out on this guy" post)
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XDA needs more people like you. Great reply and it made sense.
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This was handled nicely, thanks guys!
In the future OP pay attention to where you post and
read forum rules and stickies before posting
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Now that this has been moved can we get back on topic? What is yalls experience with these two kernels?
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personally i like leankernal because of how light and simple it is. no unneccesary weight and battery life is great.
Clean kernel is closer to stock than imos kernel which is kinda good and bad. The more you modify the kernel the more chance you'll have of breaking something but you also have the posabilty of making it way better if done right and everything comes out ok.
I would expect clean kernel to be more stable, less battery efficient, and a little slower overall. Where imos kernel could vary drastically with each update due to more major things being edited or changed. Right now imos beta. 4 has pretty good battery life over stock and is stable.
Personally I try the more modified stuff first and if I don't feel it pays off I move to something more stable or closer to stock until an update is released or problem addressed. Just my. 02
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Now that this has been moved can we get back on topic? What is yalls experience with these two kernels?
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Clean Kernel is under volt by default for a given frequency. That is why the battery life is better. If you are looking for both performance and battery life, you should over clock Clean Kernel frequency to 1.89 (default is 1.5) max and min should be 400 range. GPU in Clean Kernel is also over clocked. "stable" is the key word to differentiate between the two. I would think that Clean Kernel is the most stable kernel of all. For speed they should be the same, for bells and whistles, Lean kernel would be your choice. To sum up, Clean Kernel give you both world, stable, performance and battery life... unless you want something else beside those 3.
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Clean kernel is closer to stock than imos kernel which is kinda good and bad. The more you modify the kernel the more chance you'll have of breaking something but you also have the posabilty of making it way better if done right and everything comes out ok.
I would expect clean kernel to be more stable, less battery efficient, and a little slower overall. Where imos kernel could vary drastically with each update due to more major things being edited or changed. Right now imos beta. 4 has pretty good battery life over stock and is stable.
Personally I try the more modified stuff first and if I don't feel it pays off I move to something more stable or closer to stock until an update is released or problem addressed. Just my. 02
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I agree with you on the kernel changing concept. And I have also noticed that .4 is much better than .3
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Clean Kernel is under volt by default for a given frequency. That is why the battery life is better. If you are looking for both performance and battery life, you should over clock Clean Kernel frequency to 1.89 (default is 1.5) max and min should be 400 range. GPU in Clean Kernel is also over clocked. "stable" is the key word to differentiate between the two. I would think that Clean Kernel is the most stable kernel of all. For speed they should be the same, for bells and whistles, Lean kernel would be your choice. To sum up, Clean Kernel give you both world, stable, performance and battery life... unless you want something else beside those 3.
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So you're a cleankernel guy? I definitely agree with you about this being all three things. So as far as the GPU being overclocked, why does lean kernel .4 perform better in games
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So you're a cleankernel guy? I definitely agree with you about this being all three things. So as far as the GPU being overclocked, why does lean kernel .4 perform better in games
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Like I have mentioned, if you aiming for gaming performance then you better to use lean, but then your battery life wouldn't be too good. Most of people just want a fast stable phone and a good battery life for daily use, then Clean will be a better choice. The reason it's stable because no tweaks to it except for OC/UV. Have you tried to play game with Clean over clocked to 1.89?
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Like I have mentioned, if you aiming for gaming performance then you better to use lean, but then your battery life wouldn't be too good. Most of people just want a fast stable phone and a good battery life for daily use, then Clean will be a better choice. The reason it's stable because no tweaks to it except for OC/UV. Have you tried to play game with Clean over clocked to 1.89?
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Actually I never thought of overclocking and playing the game until now. I guess Im just used to being at stock. But I will give it a try and see how that works. But what your saying definitely makes sense and should clear some things up. Performace + battery life = cleankernel. PERFORMANCE + PERFORMANCE = leankernel. Although the battery life on leankernel has dramatically been improved.
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Actually I never thought of overclocking and playing the game until now. I guess Im just used to being at stock. But I will give it a try and see how that works. But what your saying definitely makes sense and should clear some things up. Performace + battery life = cleankernel. PERFORMANCE + PERFORMANCE = leankernel. Although the battery life on leankernel has dramatically been improved.
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Haha.. you got it...almost.. Performance+battery life+stable=Clean. Super perfornance -less battery life - 10% stable=Lean kernel. Good luck bro.
ok I just setup an app profile in setcpu. so now everytime im in my game, its overclocked. When im using it normally, its at stock speed. With the screen off, its at min 190 and max 452. so far so good!
.5 is up now with more fixes.
http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/31329-[kernel][touchwiz]-Leankernel:-Minimalistic-Kernel-(8/28---v0.5)
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Thanks for the heads up! More battery drain fixes. Although it says in order to revert back to stock we have to flash a ROM with a kernel. Would a nan backup work? Anyone tests the kernel yet