Well, I recently bought this one... HTC Inspire HD...
Because i wanted to unlock it and S-Off it i did a research... what have I been got here. No much data for this model on internet. So after i did a research my conclusion is this:
This is version of Desire HD for Latinoamerica, it have 1,5 GB internal storage like Desire HD (not 4GB like Inspire 4G) and its made for UMTS/HSPA 850/1900 MHz Band so it is not HSPA+ like Inspire 4G. Well that telling us it can be used on US 4G network but not high speed and it can not be used on most Europian 3G networks because it works on 900/1200 MHz. All other things is same as other 2 models.
FCC ID for this model is nm8pd98140
Comming shiped with Froyo 2.2.1 build version 1.9515
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF RH
HBOOT-0.85.0019
After downgrade to DHD RUU 1.32, root and ENG S-off, all rom's and radios working fine on it. At this moment running on Android Revolution 6.3.2, all working fine, smooth and fast.
shonens said:
Well, I recently bought this one... HTC Inspire HD...
Because i wanted to unlock it and S-Off it i did a research... what have I been got here. No much data for this model on internet. So after i did a research my conclusion is this:
This is version of Desire HD for Latinoamerica, it have 1,5 GB internal storage like Desire HD (not 4GB like Inspire 4G) and its made for UMTS/HSPA 850/1900 MHz Band so it is not HSPA+ like Inspire 4G. Well that telling us it can be used on US 4G network but not high speed and it can not be used on most Europian 3G networks because it works on 900/1200 MHz. All other things is same as other 2 models.
FCC ID for this model is nm8pd98140
Comming shiped with Froyo 2.2.1 build version 1.9515
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF RH
HBOOT-0.85.0019
After downgrade to DHD RUU 1.32, root and ENG S-off, all rom's and radios working fine on it. At this moment running on Android Revolution 6.3.2, all working fine, smooth and fast.
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I'll start with, thanks for the write-up! I understand you're just trying to be helpful but lets take a second to break this down. XDA is a development site. If there is someone on here, more specifically the Inspire forums, and they don't know anything about the Inspire, rooting and everything that it entails then they need to do more independent research to educate themselves. Everything you covered in your write-up has been covered, then covered again, then covered 100 times more after people ask questions about the stuff that has been covered haha, you kinda see what I'm getting at. What I'm saying is this, if someone found themselves at this forum for the Inspire and they don't know what it is and how to root, they should first take a trip to a local AT&T store and then read everything in the stickies and subsequently search for anything they don't understand.
agree, the thought is appreciated but as bacon said, this has been covered over and over again. Oh and the phone is over a year old now. so those that have the inspire like myself, are using it because we have a year till renewal lol
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MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
I'll start with, thanks for the write-up! I understand you're just trying to be helpful but lets take a second to break this down. XDA is a development site. If there is someone on here, more specifically the Inspire forums, and they don't know anything about the Inspire, rooting and everything that it entails then they need to do more independent research to educate themselves. Everything you covered in your write-up has been covered, then covered again, then covered 100 times more after people ask questions about the stuff that has been covered haha, you kinda see what I'm getting at. What I'm saying is this, if someone found themselves at this forum for the Inspire and they don't know what it is and how to root, they should first take a trip to a local AT&T store and then read everything in the stickies and subsequently search for anything they don't understand.
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Ok Bacon... first i wanna to tnx for your answer here...
Maybe its covered but i lost like 10 hours on internet to realize what i should do and what i should not do with this phone. XDA have some answers but not all, so i wrote this for all people get im my situation and save some time. Also im not a new member... im dooing my private work and had alot of phones and i was confused when i got this one. Ans at the end.. if someone find this phone and wanna buy, it realy need to know what it can do and what it cant
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Ok Bacon... first i wanna to tnx for your answer here...
Maybe its covered but i lost like 10 hours on internet to realize what i should do and what i should not do with this phone. XDA have some answers but not all, so i wrote this for all people get im my situation and save some time. Also im not a new member... im dooing my private work and had alot of phones and i was confused when i got this one. Ans at the end.. if someone find this phone and wanna buy, it realy need to know what it can do and what it cant
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I want to thank you for not getting defensive and being able to take constructive criticism! The mods should leave this up solely as a shining example of a rational person on the internet. Jesus I want to give you a hug man! It seems as of late people just take everything sooo personal and become a raging internet fool and again I thank you!
Yeah, I understand man. The Inspire and the whole rooting process is one of the more complex. At least now, a year after its release, ATTN1 and the awesome devs around these parts have done good work to make the rooting process as painless as possible. I also understand that some of the stuff you have listed isn't readily available on XDA but I assure you everything you have in your write up has been covered on here in one thread or another. I know it seems like a lot of work just to figure out what you can and can't do but when it comes to messing around with your phone like this its best you put in the hours to understand what you're doing. I can't tell you how many users don't do what you do (put in 10 hours of internet research) and end up with a jammed up phone. You gotta learn what you're doing before you do it. Either way, you made my day but not being an irrational fool! Thanks man for the write-up.
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No much data for this model on internet. So after i did a research my conclusion is this:
This is version of Desire HD for Latinoamerica, it have 1,5 GB internal storage like Desire HD (not 4GB like Inspire 4G) and its made for UMTS/HSPA 850/1900 MHz Band so it is not HSPA+ like Inspire 4G. Well that telling us it can be used on US 4G network but not high speed and it can not be used on most Europian 3G networks because it works on 900/1200 MHz. All other things is same as other 2 models.
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The FCC ID you noted is for ATT and the Inspire 4G. You will have a model number under the battery door that will tell us what it is exactly. Just post back with it. Just to let you know and to clear up some facts. All versions of Desire HD/Inspire 4G have the same internal memory. The ATT description is overall memory and is slightly misleading to the consumer. All have just over 1GB of useable memory. And if your phone supports the UMTS/HSPA 850/1900 band then it does support HSPA+ also. It may not say HSPA+ supported in the specs as most likely HSPA+ was not available in Mexico at that time. My Telus Desire HD is listed the same but it does in fact support H+. And for the most part Europe/Asia use 900/2100 for high speed.
Very interesting that you are the first to mention the Inspire HD on either the Inspire or Desire HD sections that I know of.
Now that ^^^^^^^ was a nice response to this thread. Thanks Agoattamer.
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The FCC ID you noted is for ATT and the Inspire 4G. You will have a model number under the battery door that will tell us what it is exactly. Just post back with it. Just to let you know and to clear up some facts. All versions of Desire HD/Inspire 4G have the same internal memory. The ATT description is overall memory and is slightly misleading to the consumer. All have just over 1GB of useable memory. And if your phone supports the UMTS/HSPA 850/1900 band then it does support HSPA+ also. It may not say HSPA+ supported in the specs as most likely HSPA+ was not available in Mexico at that time. My Telus Desire HD is listed the same but it does in fact support H+. And for the most part Europe/Asia use 900/2100 for high speed.
Very interesting that you are the first to mention the Inspire HD on either the Inspire or Desire HD sections that I know of.
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Thanks for answer here... but....Sorry man, I can not agree on this answer.
Fcc ID for Inspire 4G is nm8pd98120
Fcc ID for Desire HD is nm8pd98100
For network support i said Ispire HD supports 4G network but speed HSPA and HSPA+ is not the same. Both protocols is same family of 3GPP ( HSPA · HSPA+ · LTE (E-UTRA) ) but HSPA is up to 14 MBit/s and HSPA+ is up to 28 MBit/s. Also I cannot agree that all have same Internal memory. Inspire 4G ( with fcc id nm8pd98120 ) have 4GB of interlnal storage and other two models have "only" 1,5 GB ( this is not a new, we all remember EU HD2 with 512 MB and US Tmouse with 1024 MB internal storage ) But... all this what we know is not that important because HTC himself dooing mistakes
http://www.htc.com/la/product/htc_inspire_hd/specification.html < --- only one presentation of HTC Inspire HD where they said it have 4GB Internal storage and we know it not have
shonens said:
Thanks for answer here... but....Sorry man, I can not agree on this answer.
Fcc ID for Inspire 4G is nm8pd98120
Fcc ID for Desire HD is nm8pd98100
For network support i said Ispire HD supports 4G network but speed HSPA and HSPA+ is not the same. Both protocols is same family of 3GPP ( HSPA · HSPA+ · LTE (E-UTRA) ) but HSPA is up to 14 MBit/s and HSPA+ is up to 28 MBit/s. Also I cannot agree that all have same Internal memory. Inspire 4G ( with fcc id nm8pd98120 ) have 4GB of interlnal storage and other two models have "only" 1,5 GB ( this is not a new, we all remember EU HD2 with 512 MB and US Tmouse with 1024 MB internal storage ) But... all this what we know is not that important because HTC himself dooing mistakes
http://www.htc.com/la/product/htc_inspire_hd/specification.html < --- only one presentation of HTC Inspire HD where they said it have 4GB Internal storage and we know it not have
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All the desire HD variants have 4gb total rom memory, BUT after partitioning only 1.5gb is accessible to the user. This is what everyone but att reports. Att decided to be sneaky and say it has 4gb, but don't actually say that only 1.5 is accessible. Its just BS marketing by att
From what I remember the pd98140 is the FCC I'd for the trousers dhd
Yeah I was wrong about the FCC ID. The Telus Desire HD is nm8pd98140, the Inspire 4G is nm8pd98120, and the European/Asian Desire HD is nm8pd98100. So your Inspire HD is the same as my Telus Desire HD. And my phone is 100% physically exactly like the Inspire 4G. And it supports HSPA+ so says HTC. The European DHD is model A9191. The Inspire 4G, the Telus DHD, and your Inspire HD are all model A9192.
http://www.htc.com/ca/support/desirehd-telus/tech-specs/
And ALL pd98 variants have the same amount of internal memory. And that is a fact.
marsdta must be using swype. "Trousers DHD", Hilarious!
And yeah I know about the HD2. I have owned all 3 variants of it at 1 point in time. Matter of fact I have owned all 3 variants of the Desire HD too.
Yeah me too, all variants of HD2 and only two of Desire HD, didnt got any Inspire 4G but i got this rare one
Now all we need to find is the Desire 4G.
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Now all we need to find is the Desire 4G.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/21/cellcom-carries-htc-desire-4g-lte-as-its-first-lte-phone/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/08/verizon-htc-desire-4g-lte/
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Go all the way down to the bottom. Right after FOTA it says,HSPA+/LTE. Can you say,false advertising?!? Mistake? NOT....
Yea, even the upcoming Atrix is 3G (HSPA+) only.
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I thought from the conference where they revealed the Atrix and the Inspire they said the Atrix would be compatible with LTE and the Inspire was HSPDA only.
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I thought from the conference where they revealed the Atrix and the Inspire they said the Atrix would be compatible with LTE and the Inspire was HSPDA only.
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Nope. Don't trust the uneducated reps.
http://developer.motorola.com/products/atrix-mb860/
Atrix supports HSDPA and HSUPA connectivity only.
FYI, 3G network is data network stack on top of voice network stack. LTE purely packet based data only network where voice is managed via VoIP. Completely different animal.
As for HSPA+, AT&T is feeding the public a "4G" that is nothing more than 3G that's been tweaked for marginally better performance. Even LTE (and WiMax) are not true 4G and is typically labeled as stopgap 3.9G.
When I bought the Inspire for my wife, the rep said that it would be compatible with ATT's upcoming LTE network. Doesn't matter, my wife won't care anyway.
Yes, compatible with the LTE network as in it will work, but not take advantage of the LTE technology. When reps say things like that, they are misleading customers and not telling the full truth, but only half truths.
Theres a huge amount of disinformation that ATTs employees are told give to customers. Both the Inspire and the Atrix list LTE in the specs. This is false advertising supreme. Its amazing the lies that CS is dishing out. Especially when it come to LTE and retaing your unlimited data plans. Everywhereb people are threatening to drop their service cause theyve been told their unlimites wont be kept. This is just WRONG.
And after having a second look on the page, you're just confused. It says as a CATEGORY of LTE/HSPA+ then next to it says it has HSPA+. The column on the left of the product page is just categories/labels for the spec, when the spec is on the right.
False advertising, yes. But I don't care, at least ATT has respectable Android phones once rooted and minus their sorry unusable bloat. H+ is fast enough for me and 99% of users don't even need 4g. I know we pay good money(some more than others, don't ask ) for these things and expect them to work as advertised but all carriers are the same and there is no true 4g.
Again, it isnt false advertisement. Their site is just designed like ****. The CATEGORY of wireless technology is on the left, with the ACTUAL SPEC on the right. People are getting confused by this it seems.
See screenshot for an example, it only says the phone has HSPA+ as you see on the RIGHT SIDE
JetBlk said:
Again, it isnt false advertisement. Their site is just designed like ****. The CATEGORY of wireless technology is on the left, with the ACTUAL SPEC on the right. People are getting confused by this it seems.
See screenshot for an example, it only says the phone has HSPA+ as you see on the RIGHT SIDE
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Never bothered to look at that. It makes sense. Its fast that's all that matters to me and development on these things is leaps and bounds beyond pretty much anything out there. I'm already running a stable dhd Rom with a TELUS kernel with a slight audio issue and its way faster than stock in all departments.
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False advertising, yes. But I don't care, at least ATT has respectable Android phones once rooted and minus their sorry unusable bloat. H+ is fast enough for me and 99% of users don't even need 4g. I know we pay good money(some more than others, don't ask ) for these things and expect them to work as advertised but all carriers are the same and there is no true 4g.
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I can tell you having lived with Evo for 8 months, 3.9G is very useful: Streaming/downloading movies or music is a snap. Apps sync faster, online games sync faster. Web surfing experience is 10x better (even if the WiMax speed is only 3x faster than 3G.)
I typically got 4~7 MB download using WiMax. No, it's not true 4G, but you can't deny the improved user experience of using 3.9G vs 3G.
So I'm one of the lucky ones who live in San Antonio and will be getting the true ATT 4G upgrade. Just wondering if the Inspire will be supported.
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Inspire cannot get LTE
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you'll have to wait for the holiday.... htc holiday, that is
Everything I have read online has said that the Inspire is NOT compatible with LTE.......yet I have asked 3 different AT&T reps in 3 different AT&T stores, and every one of them guaranteed me that it WILL be LTE compatible......
Based on all the info online I assume they are wrong....
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Everything I have read online has said that the Inspire is NOT compatible with LTE.......yet I have asked 3 different AT&T reps in 3 different AT&T stores, and every one of them guaranteed me that it WILL be LTE compatible......
Based on all the info online I assume they are wrong....
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Duh! I would tell you anything to buy something. Problem with you consumers. You have the internet at your finger tips, and are to dumb to do some research before you buy.
It doesn't have an lte radio, nor the software. A lot (not all) att reps have no idea what they are talking about.
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Duh! I would tell you anything to buy something. Problem with you consumers. You have the internet at your finger tips, and are to dumb to do some research before you buy.
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Yeah I knew the answer before I asked...just wanted to see what kind of response I would get....I even tried to push the issue...asking if they were positive and so on. In one case I got the manager involved, and I believe his exact words were "sir I can assure you, this phone is compatible with all of AT&T's future 4g networks"
I wonder if they actually believe that, or if corporate simply tell them to lie there a$$'s off......!
Well if you go to att.com they list it as a lte upgradable phone
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trell959 said:
Well if you go to att.com they list it as a lte upgradable phone
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What. Where did you see this. i wanna lolololol
trell959 said:
Well if you go to att.com they list it as a lte upgradable phone
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Well sure, if you wanna get in there and solder in a chipset and scare up cobbled drivers, isn't any phone?
Well, I forgot everyone here knows more than the people who actually develop the phone as a career. Wait and see; I'd highly doubt it, but BBY Mobile's BEAST software lists it as "LTE Compatible". (I work at Best Buy in Home Theater)
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Two things ...
1) ATT is lying - well sort of. They can get away with it because their definition of 4G is very broad. When they say LTE they actually mean HSDPA.
2) The folks in the store are indoctrinated by the company so they believe the Inspire is LTE as well.
I'd love to be proven wrong but unfortunately the Inspire is H+ only (HSDPA).
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Well, I forgot everyone here knows more than the people who actually develop the phone as a career. Wait and see; I'd highly doubt it, but BBY Mobile's BEAST software lists it as "LTE Compatible". (I work at Best Buy in Home Theater)
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It doesn't take a genius to figure out:
1: LTE tech is still brand new, and very few select phones have the hardware to support it. (All verizon phones)
2: The Inspire 4G is a Desire HD without an FFC. The Desire HD does not have support for LTE, therefor, we can assume this as well on the inspire 4G
When AT&T talk about 4G, they make sure they include an asterisk* and the details will follow in the tiny text. We get 4G like speeds assuming they complete the backhaul, but no LTE. We'd need hardware for that.
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Well, I forgot everyone here knows more than the people who actually develop the phone as a career. Wait and see; I'd highly doubt it, but BBY Mobile's BEAST software lists it as "LTE Compatible". (I work at Best Buy in Home Theater)
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What part of it not having an lte radio is so hard to understand...it just doeant have one. Look at the specs on htc no where on that page does it say lte, then look at the thunderbolt oh wow under specs it lists lte.... What were you saying about us knowing more then developers? Apparently htc dosent even know their phone is lte capable. Really........
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Pretty sure its impossible. Our snapdragon chips don't have the capability to support true lte. I'm pretty sure the thunderbolts SoC is a little bit different(lte support)
tribestros said:
Well, I forgot everyone here knows more than the people who actually develop the phone as a career. Wait and see; I'd highly doubt it, but BBY Mobile's BEAST software lists it as "LTE Compatible". (I work at Best Buy in Home Theater)
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Well, seeing that Geek Squad told my buddy that Bittorrent caused the demise of his <6 month old hard drive in his PC, I'm not sure how much I'll trust BestBuy's "official" info. kthxbai
alex4lex said:
It doesn't take a genius to figure out:
1: LTE tech is still brand new, and very few select phones have the hardware to support it. (All verizon phones)
2: The Inspire 4G is a Desire HD without an FFC. The Desire HD does not have support for LTE, therefor, we can assume this as well on the inspire 4G
When AT&T talk about 4G, they make sure they include an asterisk* and the details will follow in the tiny text. We get 4G like speeds assuming they complete the backhaul, but no LTE. We'd need hardware for that.
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The Desire HD does not have a front facing camera. The Inspire and DHD are almost exact clones. The only thing different is the logo on the back.
trell959 said:
Well if you go to att.com they list it as a lte upgradable phone
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Actually, this is the official ATT page for the Inspire 4g.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...re+(TM)+4G*&q_sku=sku5100284#fbid=ZSGfIgw7m3E
If you scroll near the very bottom, Technical Specifications section, lower left corner it says, "4G* - HSPA+/LTE: HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul." No where does it say it is LTE compatible. Also, that little asterisk leads you to this, like someone mentioned earlier, "*4G speeds delivered by HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul. Available in limited areas. Availability increasing with ongoing backhaul deployment. Requires 4G device and compatible data plan. Learn more at att.com/network."
Would be nice if that's possible, but it's not with this phone. But I'll have to wait 2 more years anyways to be able to upgrade again, haha.
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I make a habit of changing my phone every 2 years as a rule. By then maybe AT&T may have their LTE in par with Verizon. It really doesn't matter with my paltry 200mb account anyway, whether I use it with 1 to 2 megabit at a time or 9 to10 megabit at a time.
Hey,
I'm contemplating getting a Sensation in Canada, but I may wait for Rogers to get their new LTE network going before getting a new phone. Would you guys say that the 4G is worth waiting for? Or should I just get the Sensation now?
jun.seba said:
Hey,
I'm contemplating getting a Sensation in Canada, but I may wait for Rogers to get their new LTE network going before getting a new phone. Would you guys say that the 4G is worth waiting for? Or should I just get the Sensation now?
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Wait...and use the money that's obviously burning a hole in your pocket for more prudent things...such as contributing to your 401k...
Nah, but 4g is ok...I see it as a luxury, if you can afford it and you REALLY want it then sure. But whether or not it's worth is is as simple as thinking about how much you really value a few extra seconds between page loads. With bandwith caps, 4g isn't really all that attractive anymore honestly...
jun.seba said:
Hey,
I'm contemplating getting a Sensation in Canada, but I may wait for Rogers to get their new LTE network going before getting a new phone. Would you guys say that the 4G is worth waiting for? Or should I just get the Sensation now?
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Something else to think about, just because they launch LTE won't guarantee that they will have the backhaul to make it fast. Most, if not all, of Sprints WiMAX, Verizon's LTE is slower than 3G simply because they don't have the backhaul or capacity yet.
It took T-Mobile 2 more years after launching UMTS to get HSPA+ going. Food for thought.
hmm.....well put...thanks guys. will have a new Sensation tomorrow
With these prices... its not worth it.
$45 1.5 GB
$60 3 GB
$75 6 GB
$90 9 GB
Actually T－Mobile's 4G is not the real 4G..It is HSPA＋
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What a douche! Check My sig T-Mobile 4G is as fast as "4G" LTE shut your hole dude.
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What a douche! Check My sig T-Mobile 4G is as fast as "4G" LTE shut your hole dude.
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I don't think that was called for.
Definitely not better than EDGE.
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jerrylzy said:
Actually T－Mobile's 4G is not the real 4G..It is HSPA＋
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4g has no real standards. It's simply the 4th generation of wireless data.
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jerrylzy said:
Actually T－Mobile's 4G is not the real 4G..It is HSPA＋
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What are you talking about? Did ANYONE in this thread say ANYTHING about T-Mobile and 4G?
Read the post before making idiot responses.
sensation is a solid phone, reminds me of my nexus one that I wish I never traded. Would probably still be using that, instead of the phone path I went through. Pricing of 4g isnt worth it, you can just get internet services at a home. My local carrier is rolling out "4g" and I'm priced for life at $14.99 unlimited text & data. I don't plan on leaving the carrier anytime soon, and my download speeds on average are 3-4mbps, high has been up to 8mbps.
Unless your in a big popular city where they will try to put out the LTE signal and support it I wouldnt worry about it. Everyone I know here (Dallas) on Sprint's 4g and Verizons has sporadic problems with signal and speeds. Its fast when its there but they dont get it much.
T-Mo US's may not be real 4G but they have good coverage (for me) with it and I love the phone so I personally wouldnt wait unless you get some good info on the quality of 4G in your area.
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What a douche! Check My sig T-Mobile 4G is as fast as "4G" LTE shut your hole dude.
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I see just the *slightest* overreaction here.
However, to answer the OP's question: Yes, 4G it's worth it to me. Accessing information no longer takes a brutally long time. I have fewer reasons to take a laptop most of to time. I can have long conversations with my girl or family while browsing these forums or the web in general.
I see download speeds anywhere from 3mbps to 11mbps depending on where I am at the time. This is more that fast enough for me to forget that I am not on Wifi. This is what I have always wanted using a smartphone to be like.
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What are you talking about? Did ANYONE in this thread say ANYTHING about T-Mobile and 4G?
Read the post before making idiot responses.
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T-Mobile's 4G is HSPA+,isn't it? I am not talking about LTE
HSPA+ is not 4g and neither is the current iteration of verizons LTE.
LTE is still faster than HSPA+ but it drains your battery. I have been getting amazing HSPA+speeds but its in very limited locations (downtown seattle only). 4G is worth it, be it real or fake its much faster than 3g but i kind of like HSPA+ cuz at least its not such a battery hog like LTE.
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T-Mobile's 4G is HSPA+,isn't it? I am not talking about LTE
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If your not talking about LTE, then why are you posting in this thread? Yes, T-mobile's network is HSPA+. No one is arguing that. What we do want to know, though, is why you mentioned it? The OP, who lives in Canada, was asking if it was worth getting the Sensation now (which won't be on a 4G network as it's not launched) or waiting for when they launch LTE (in Canada) and buy it on a 4G LTE network.
What does that have to do with T-Mobile NOT being a TRUE 4G network?
Maybe I read it wrong so,,,
I'm contemplating getting a Sensation in Canada, but I may wait for Rogers to get their new LTE network going before getting a new phone. Would you guys say that the 4G is worth waiting for? Or should I just get the Sensation now?
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Nope, he was talking about LTE 4G in Canada, NOT T-mobile 4G. Still do NOT understand the point of your comment.
EDIT: On a side note of true 4G. NO carrier in the WORLD can claim 4G as 4G is only classed as WiMAX II or LTE Advanced with speeds of 100Mbps. With that said, T-Mobile is not either of those technologies, but they are half way to the speeds which is about 4 times faster than anyone else in the world.
setzer715 said:
If your not talking about LTE, then why are you posting in this thread? Yes, T-mobile's network is HSPA+. No one is arguing that. What we do want to know, though, is why you mentioned it? The OP, who lives in Canada, was asking if it was worth getting the Sensation now (which won't be on a 4G network as it's not launched) or waiting for when they launch LTE (in Canada) and buy it on a 4G LTE network.
What does that have to do with T-Mobile NOT being a TRUE 4G network?
Maybe I read it wrong so,,,
Nope, he was talking about LTE 4G in Canada, NOT T-mobile 4G. Still do NOT understand the point of your comment.
EDIT: On a side note of true 4G. NO carrier in the WORLD can claim 4G as 4G is only classed as WiMAX II or LTE Advanced with speeds of 100Mbps. With that said, T-Mobile is not either of those technologies, but they are half way to the speeds which is about 4 times faster than anyone else in the world.
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OK,calm down please. If I post wrong in this thread , please forgive me , i didn't look it carefully.Sorry.
r3awak3n said:
HSPA+ is not 4g and neither is the current iteration of verizons LTE.
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Not relevant to the OP but the ITU actually stated the term 4g may be applied to "LTE and WiMax, and to other evolved 3G technologies providing a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed."
i DONT reccommend getting rogers 4G, purely for the excessive cost, shakey availability, and the fact that when they do actually launch, its going to be rife with problems...using 3g on my sensation is mroe than fast enough, and really, if you want fast data, just use home internet and access it with logmein from your fone...
i used to be with rogers, but the cost/bandwidth of data just didnt cut it for me...
HI all
I just got down a unlocked Inspire 4G and I have only Edge and GPRS for data
cause there are no operator where i live that support the 1900 Band..
I called the Shop they said they have a Captivate and a Samsung Focus and its cheaper and they will refunfd the extra
sooooo I love the Inspire they way it feels and looks...and Sense of-course
but with only 2G speeds, is it really worth to keep it.
or the practical solution is to Return it and Get a Captivate or a Focus??
Please lend me your thoughts to help me decide
Head on over to the RCMIX bliss thread and check out the screenies you'll have no problem deciding what to do.
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hellfire666 said:
HI all
I just got down a unlocked Inspire 4G and I have only Edge and GPRS for data
cause there are no operator where i live that support the 1900 Band..
I called the Shop they said they have a Captivate and a Samsung Focus and its cheaper and they will refunfd the extra
sooooo I love the Inspire they way it feels and looks...and Sense of-course
but with only 2G speeds, is it really worth to keep it.
or the practical solution is to Return it and Get a Captivate or a Focus??
Please lend me your thoughts to help me decide
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You will still only get 2g with the other phones as they are both also att phones. So it will be the lesser of the 2 evils
Actually Captivate supports Tri-band 3G so 2100 is a go with that phone...
The Inpire is a Sexy phone but will it be practical to use with Emails and Facebook with just 2G speeds??
im Just asking hee cause idont wanna make the mistake of giving this phone away with out properly thinkin...
As I say buy on your network unless you're prepared to sacrifice certain things ex 3g, hspa and so on
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I know but Networks here Well they are EVIL Very high Prices...
sooo what do you guys think i should do
Will it be practicle to use Inspire
I have WIFI @ home but mostly i wont get access to Wifi..work place have strict WIFI acess policy
will it be hard to use Exchnage mail and Gmail.. i know it will be slow but just asking incase if some one has used it or have knowledge of it..
and FB sync and stuff I can do them at home but Emails are a must have for the road
If they could get you the Desire HD then you would technically have an inspire with the 2100 band.
I asked they said they dont have any left...Sniff sniff
so which one should i go for from these
iphone 3Gs
Captivate
Focus
These are the phones they have right now that fits my price that has 2100
Dude everyone has given you your answer. Its your choice honestly. and since when do you get all up on a cell phone at work anyways. Work first, play later lol. If those other phones support your service, then go ahead and trade out. Imo I use wifi at home and data else where. You will be surprised how many ppl use 2t speeds for facebook, etc. and use wifi at home. Especially with att 2gig cap. your a big bpta, decide your selfSent from my Desire HD using XDA App
anything besided a crappy iphone would be ok IMO
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Check eBay
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Cappy, awesome phone
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Hello,
Okay, there is tons of this, everywhere. But, still, what I know untill now is that Inspire have better screen then Desire HD. But I've did read something about mics, which I'm intrested in. The in call quality with my Desire HD is really really poor.
Also Inspire 4G, can I use 4G network with it?
Any answers would be much much appreciated!
There's really no difference, besides the name of course. Hell I have an inspire 4g and once u root, then load a rom. It says its a Desire...
The main difference is the hardware used for the sound on the inspire and the desire hd. That's why we need the sound fix
There are 2 major differences. The Desire HD (A9191) has European 3G bands and 1 mic. The Inspire (A9192) and Telus Desire HD (A9192) has 850,1900 3G/fake 4G bands and a second mic used for noise cancellation. They both use the same LCD. So if you are trying to connect to a 4G network in Europe with the inspire then the answer is definitely no.
Thanks for your answers all. Yes, I live in Norway, and have a friend that wants to selll his Inspire 4G he bought from USA, A&T, but ofsially unlocked, atleast he says so. But, if it isin't any diffrence, then I might just go for a brand new Desire HD insted?
What about the internal memory? will the uncompressed ROM make the phone any faster? Any ideas?
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Try my sig. Asked and answered!
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Funny kid. There is so much diffrent about this, tbh, I don't know what to belive.
What I told you is the fact. They both have the same internal memory also. If you don't want high speed data (3G) then get the inspire but it will only give you edge. If you want to know the truth then seriously google the specs for each phone and you will see. ATT phones simply do not have 3G bands for europe. And there isn't much to believe. Kimtyson has a point. Google would have answered your question in minutes.
Agoattamer said:
What I told you is the fact. They both have the same internal memory also. If you don't want high speed data (3G) then get the inspire but it will only give you edge. If you want to know the truth then seriously google the specs for each phone and you will see. ATT phones simply do not have 3G bands for europe. And there isn't much to believe. Kimtyson has a point. Google would have answered your question in minutes.
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My google results gives me that the user accable ROM/memory is the same, however, total amunt isin't. But, if the Inspire won't go 3G (I was seriously hoping for 4GB ) Then it is out of the question, what so ever.
The memory is the same. DHD specs say 1.2GB or something like that. ATT specs say 4GB. ATT is again pulling a scam on people. Only 1.2GB of it is user internal memory. Exactly the same as the DHD.
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The memory is the same. DHD specs say 1.2GB or something like that. ATT specs say 4GB. ATT is again pulling a scam on people. Only 1.2GB of it is user internal memory. Exactly the same as the DHD.
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http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/HTC/EMMC/UnderstandingUserCapacity
What AT&T would not do that LOL. I have just found rumors about the audio and that they both suck. I know my Inspire does even with the hack.
Thanks for the answer guys, but I think I'll just stick with the Sensation XL.