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[Q] Trade Captivate for hTC HD2?

Could I get some opinions on this?

ih4ckback said:
Could I get some opinions on this?
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Depends on what your looking for bro.
The HD2 is a hacker's dream device though.
Get it if your bored with the captivate i guess?

Does it have AT&T 3G bands? Does it have features you want compared to Captivate? Those are questions I'd ask myself.

My friend has one and its ok. I love how crisp our screen. My friend likes my captivate better. But it only has T-mo 3g bands unless you get the Australian addition for At&t 3g bands. I say stick with the captivate especially since the Gingerbread leak just came out.

pimpnmaxima said:
My friend has one and its ok. I love how crisp our screen. My friend likes my captivate better. But it only has T-mo 3g bands unless you get the Australian addition for At&t 3g bands. I say stick with the captivate especially since the Gingerbread leak just came out.
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Actually the HD2 has full CM7 support which always has the latest gingerbread builds...so I'd just suggest playing around with it and if you like it then get it.

I would get an Inspire. You can't hack it as much, but it has full CM support. The ROM's have such a high quality feel. Plus it's 4G, or at least what AT&T conisders 4G.
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Support for upcoming LTE update.

So I'm one of the lucky ones who live in San Antonio and will be getting the true ATT 4G upgrade. Just wondering if the Inspire will be supported.
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Inspire cannot get LTE
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you'll have to wait for the holiday.... htc holiday, that is

Everything I have read online has said that the Inspire is NOT compatible with LTE.......yet I have asked 3 different AT&T reps in 3 different AT&T stores, and every one of them guaranteed me that it WILL be LTE compatible......
Based on all the info online I assume they are wrong....

S.Reno9 said:
Everything I have read online has said that the Inspire is NOT compatible with LTE.......yet I have asked 3 different AT&T reps in 3 different AT&T stores, and every one of them guaranteed me that it WILL be LTE compatible......
Based on all the info online I assume they are wrong....
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Duh! I would tell you anything to buy something. Problem with you consumers. You have the internet at your finger tips, and are to dumb to do some research before you buy.

It doesn't have an lte radio, nor the software. A lot (not all) att reps have no idea what they are talking about.

donniesd said:
Duh! I would tell you anything to buy something. Problem with you consumers. You have the internet at your finger tips, and are to dumb to do some research before you buy.
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Yeah I knew the answer before I asked...just wanted to see what kind of response I would get....I even tried to push the issue...asking if they were positive and so on. In one case I got the manager involved, and I believe his exact words were "sir I can assure you, this phone is compatible with all of AT&T's future 4g networks"
I wonder if they actually believe that, or if corporate simply tell them to lie there a$$'s off......!

Well if you go to att.com they list it as a lte upgradable phone
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trell959 said:
Well if you go to att.com they list it as a lte upgradable phone
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What. Where did you see this. i wanna lolololol

trell959 said:
Well if you go to att.com they list it as a lte upgradable phone
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Well sure, if you wanna get in there and solder in a chipset and scare up cobbled drivers, isn't any phone?

Well, I forgot everyone here knows more than the people who actually develop the phone as a career. Wait and see; I'd highly doubt it, but BBY Mobile's BEAST software lists it as "LTE Compatible". (I work at Best Buy in Home Theater)
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Two things ...
1) ATT is lying - well sort of. They can get away with it because their definition of 4G is very broad. When they say LTE they actually mean HSDPA.
2) The folks in the store are indoctrinated by the company so they believe the Inspire is LTE as well.
I'd love to be proven wrong but unfortunately the Inspire is H+ only (HSDPA).

tribestros said:
Well, I forgot everyone here knows more than the people who actually develop the phone as a career. Wait and see; I'd highly doubt it, but BBY Mobile's BEAST software lists it as "LTE Compatible". (I work at Best Buy in Home Theater)
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It doesn't take a genius to figure out:
1: LTE tech is still brand new, and very few select phones have the hardware to support it. (All verizon phones)
2: The Inspire 4G is a Desire HD without an FFC. The Desire HD does not have support for LTE, therefor, we can assume this as well on the inspire 4G
When AT&T talk about 4G, they make sure they include an asterisk* and the details will follow in the tiny text. We get 4G like speeds assuming they complete the backhaul, but no LTE. We'd need hardware for that.

tribestros said:
Well, I forgot everyone here knows more than the people who actually develop the phone as a career. Wait and see; I'd highly doubt it, but BBY Mobile's BEAST software lists it as "LTE Compatible". (I work at Best Buy in Home Theater)
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What part of it not having an lte radio is so hard to understand...it just doeant have one. Look at the specs on htc no where on that page does it say lte, then look at the thunderbolt oh wow under specs it lists lte.... What were you saying about us knowing more then developers? Apparently htc dosent even know their phone is lte capable. Really........
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Pretty sure its impossible. Our snapdragon chips don't have the capability to support true lte. I'm pretty sure the thunderbolts SoC is a little bit different(lte support)

tribestros said:
Well, I forgot everyone here knows more than the people who actually develop the phone as a career. Wait and see; I'd highly doubt it, but BBY Mobile's BEAST software lists it as "LTE Compatible". (I work at Best Buy in Home Theater)
Sent from my MIUI HTC Inspire
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Well, seeing that Geek Squad told my buddy that Bittorrent caused the demise of his <6 month old hard drive in his PC, I'm not sure how much I'll trust BestBuy's "official" info. kthxbai

alex4lex said:
It doesn't take a genius to figure out:
1: LTE tech is still brand new, and very few select phones have the hardware to support it. (All verizon phones)
2: The Inspire 4G is a Desire HD without an FFC. The Desire HD does not have support for LTE, therefor, we can assume this as well on the inspire 4G
When AT&T talk about 4G, they make sure they include an asterisk* and the details will follow in the tiny text. We get 4G like speeds assuming they complete the backhaul, but no LTE. We'd need hardware for that.
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The Desire HD does not have a front facing camera. The Inspire and DHD are almost exact clones. The only thing different is the logo on the back.

trell959 said:
Well if you go to att.com they list it as a lte upgradable phone
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Actually, this is the official ATT page for the Inspire 4g.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...re+(TM)+4G*&q_sku=sku5100284#fbid=ZSGfIgw7m3E
If you scroll near the very bottom, Technical Specifications section, lower left corner it says, "4G* - HSPA+/LTE: HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul." No where does it say it is LTE compatible. Also, that little asterisk leads you to this, like someone mentioned earlier, "*4G speeds delivered by HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul. Available in limited areas. Availability increasing with ongoing backhaul deployment. Requires 4G device and compatible data plan. Learn more at att.com/network."

Would be nice if that's possible, but it's not with this phone. But I'll have to wait 2 more years anyways to be able to upgrade again, haha.
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I make a habit of changing my phone every 2 years as a rule. By then maybe AT&T may have their LTE in par with Verizon. It really doesn't matter with my paltry 200mb account anyway, whether I use it with 1 to 2 megabit at a time or 9 to10 megabit at a time.

For all whos been asking himself: What is HTC Inspire HD

Well, I recently bought this one... HTC Inspire HD...
Because i wanted to unlock it and S-Off it i did a research... what have I been got here. No much data for this model on internet. So after i did a research my conclusion is this:
This is version of Desire HD for Latinoamerica, it have 1,5 GB internal storage like Desire HD (not 4GB like Inspire 4G) and its made for UMTS/HSPA 850/1900 MHz Band so it is not HSPA+ like Inspire 4G. Well that telling us it can be used on US 4G network but not high speed and it can not be used on most Europian 3G networks because it works on 900/1200 MHz. All other things is same as other 2 models.
FCC ID for this model is nm8pd98140
Comming shiped with Froyo 2.2.1 build version 1.9515
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF RH
HBOOT-0.85.0019
After downgrade to DHD RUU 1.32, root and ENG S-off, all rom's and radios working fine on it. At this moment running on Android Revolution 6.3.2, all working fine, smooth and fast.

shonens said:
Well, I recently bought this one... HTC Inspire HD...
Because i wanted to unlock it and S-Off it i did a research... what have I been got here. No much data for this model on internet. So after i did a research my conclusion is this:
This is version of Desire HD for Latinoamerica, it have 1,5 GB internal storage like Desire HD (not 4GB like Inspire 4G) and its made for UMTS/HSPA 850/1900 MHz Band so it is not HSPA+ like Inspire 4G. Well that telling us it can be used on US 4G network but not high speed and it can not be used on most Europian 3G networks because it works on 900/1200 MHz. All other things is same as other 2 models.
FCC ID for this model is nm8pd98140
Comming shiped with Froyo 2.2.1 build version 1.9515
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF RH
HBOOT-0.85.0019
After downgrade to DHD RUU 1.32, root and ENG S-off, all rom's and radios working fine on it. At this moment running on Android Revolution 6.3.2, all working fine, smooth and fast.
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I'll start with, thanks for the write-up! I understand you're just trying to be helpful but lets take a second to break this down. XDA is a development site. If there is someone on here, more specifically the Inspire forums, and they don't know anything about the Inspire, rooting and everything that it entails then they need to do more independent research to educate themselves. Everything you covered in your write-up has been covered, then covered again, then covered 100 times more after people ask questions about the stuff that has been covered haha, you kinda see what I'm getting at. What I'm saying is this, if someone found themselves at this forum for the Inspire and they don't know what it is and how to root, they should first take a trip to a local AT&T store and then read everything in the stickies and subsequently search for anything they don't understand.

agree, the thought is appreciated but as bacon said, this has been covered over and over again. Oh and the phone is over a year old now. so those that have the inspire like myself, are using it because we have a year till renewal lol

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MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
I'll start with, thanks for the write-up! I understand you're just trying to be helpful but lets take a second to break this down. XDA is a development site. If there is someone on here, more specifically the Inspire forums, and they don't know anything about the Inspire, rooting and everything that it entails then they need to do more independent research to educate themselves. Everything you covered in your write-up has been covered, then covered again, then covered 100 times more after people ask questions about the stuff that has been covered haha, you kinda see what I'm getting at. What I'm saying is this, if someone found themselves at this forum for the Inspire and they don't know what it is and how to root, they should first take a trip to a local AT&T store and then read everything in the stickies and subsequently search for anything they don't understand.
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Ok Bacon... first i wanna to tnx for your answer here...
Maybe its covered but i lost like 10 hours on internet to realize what i should do and what i should not do with this phone. XDA have some answers but not all, so i wrote this for all people get im my situation and save some time. Also im not a new member... im dooing my private work and had alot of phones and i was confused when i got this one. Ans at the end.. if someone find this phone and wanna buy, it realy need to know what it can do and what it cant

shonens said:
Ok Bacon... first i wanna to tnx for your answer here...
Maybe its covered but i lost like 10 hours on internet to realize what i should do and what i should not do with this phone. XDA have some answers but not all, so i wrote this for all people get im my situation and save some time. Also im not a new member... im dooing my private work and had alot of phones and i was confused when i got this one. Ans at the end.. if someone find this phone and wanna buy, it realy need to know what it can do and what it cant
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I want to thank you for not getting defensive and being able to take constructive criticism! The mods should leave this up solely as a shining example of a rational person on the internet. Jesus I want to give you a hug man! It seems as of late people just take everything sooo personal and become a raging internet fool and again I thank you!
Yeah, I understand man. The Inspire and the whole rooting process is one of the more complex. At least now, a year after its release, ATTN1 and the awesome devs around these parts have done good work to make the rooting process as painless as possible. I also understand that some of the stuff you have listed isn't readily available on XDA but I assure you everything you have in your write up has been covered on here in one thread or another. I know it seems like a lot of work just to figure out what you can and can't do but when it comes to messing around with your phone like this its best you put in the hours to understand what you're doing. I can't tell you how many users don't do what you do (put in 10 hours of internet research) and end up with a jammed up phone. You gotta learn what you're doing before you do it. Either way, you made my day but not being an irrational fool! Thanks man for the write-up.

shonens said:
No much data for this model on internet. So after i did a research my conclusion is this:
This is version of Desire HD for Latinoamerica, it have 1,5 GB internal storage like Desire HD (not 4GB like Inspire 4G) and its made for UMTS/HSPA 850/1900 MHz Band so it is not HSPA+ like Inspire 4G. Well that telling us it can be used on US 4G network but not high speed and it can not be used on most Europian 3G networks because it works on 900/1200 MHz. All other things is same as other 2 models.
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The FCC ID you noted is for ATT and the Inspire 4G. You will have a model number under the battery door that will tell us what it is exactly. Just post back with it. Just to let you know and to clear up some facts. All versions of Desire HD/Inspire 4G have the same internal memory. The ATT description is overall memory and is slightly misleading to the consumer. All have just over 1GB of useable memory. And if your phone supports the UMTS/HSPA 850/1900 band then it does support HSPA+ also. It may not say HSPA+ supported in the specs as most likely HSPA+ was not available in Mexico at that time. My Telus Desire HD is listed the same but it does in fact support H+. And for the most part Europe/Asia use 900/2100 for high speed.
Very interesting that you are the first to mention the Inspire HD on either the Inspire or Desire HD sections that I know of.

Now that ^^^^^^^ was a nice response to this thread. Thanks Agoattamer.

Agoattamer said:
The FCC ID you noted is for ATT and the Inspire 4G. You will have a model number under the battery door that will tell us what it is exactly. Just post back with it. Just to let you know and to clear up some facts. All versions of Desire HD/Inspire 4G have the same internal memory. The ATT description is overall memory and is slightly misleading to the consumer. All have just over 1GB of useable memory. And if your phone supports the UMTS/HSPA 850/1900 band then it does support HSPA+ also. It may not say HSPA+ supported in the specs as most likely HSPA+ was not available in Mexico at that time. My Telus Desire HD is listed the same but it does in fact support H+. And for the most part Europe/Asia use 900/2100 for high speed.
Very interesting that you are the first to mention the Inspire HD on either the Inspire or Desire HD sections that I know of.
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Thanks for answer here... but....Sorry man, I can not agree on this answer.
Fcc ID for Inspire 4G is nm8pd98120
Fcc ID for Desire HD is nm8pd98100
For network support i said Ispire HD supports 4G network but speed HSPA and HSPA+ is not the same. Both protocols is same family of 3GPP ( HSPA · HSPA+ · LTE (E-UTRA) ) but HSPA is up to 14 MBit/s and HSPA+ is up to 28 MBit/s. Also I cannot agree that all have same Internal memory. Inspire 4G ( with fcc id nm8pd98120 ) have 4GB of interlnal storage and other two models have "only" 1,5 GB ( this is not a new, we all remember EU HD2 with 512 MB and US Tmouse with 1024 MB internal storage ) But... all this what we know is not that important because HTC himself dooing mistakes
http://www.htc.com/la/product/htc_inspire_hd/specification.html < --- only one presentation of HTC Inspire HD where they said it have 4GB Internal storage and we know it not have

shonens said:
Thanks for answer here... but....Sorry man, I can not agree on this answer.
Fcc ID for Inspire 4G is nm8pd98120
Fcc ID for Desire HD is nm8pd98100
For network support i said Ispire HD supports 4G network but speed HSPA and HSPA+ is not the same. Both protocols is same family of 3GPP ( HSPA · HSPA+ · LTE (E-UTRA) ) but HSPA is up to 14 MBit/s and HSPA+ is up to 28 MBit/s. Also I cannot agree that all have same Internal memory. Inspire 4G ( with fcc id nm8pd98120 ) have 4GB of interlnal storage and other two models have "only" 1,5 GB ( this is not a new, we all remember EU HD2 with 512 MB and US Tmouse with 1024 MB internal storage ) But... all this what we know is not that important because HTC himself dooing mistakes
http://www.htc.com/la/product/htc_inspire_hd/specification.html < --- only one presentation of HTC Inspire HD where they said it have 4GB Internal storage and we know it not have
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All the desire HD variants have 4gb total rom memory, BUT after partitioning only 1.5gb is accessible to the user. This is what everyone but att reports. Att decided to be sneaky and say it has 4gb, but don't actually say that only 1.5 is accessible. Its just BS marketing by att
From what I remember the pd98140 is the FCC I'd for the trousers dhd

Yeah I was wrong about the FCC ID. The Telus Desire HD is nm8pd98140, the Inspire 4G is nm8pd98120, and the European/Asian Desire HD is nm8pd98100. So your Inspire HD is the same as my Telus Desire HD. And my phone is 100% physically exactly like the Inspire 4G. And it supports HSPA+ so says HTC. The European DHD is model A9191. The Inspire 4G, the Telus DHD, and your Inspire HD are all model A9192.
http://www.htc.com/ca/support/desirehd-telus/tech-specs/
And ALL pd98 variants have the same amount of internal memory. And that is a fact.
marsdta must be using swype. "Trousers DHD", Hilarious!
And yeah I know about the HD2. I have owned all 3 variants of it at 1 point in time. Matter of fact I have owned all 3 variants of the Desire HD too.

Yeah me too, all variants of HD2 and only two of Desire HD, didnt got any Inspire 4G but i got this rare one

Now all we need to find is the Desire 4G.

Agoattamer said:
Now all we need to find is the Desire 4G.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/21/cellcom-carries-htc-desire-4g-lte-as-its-first-lte-phone/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/08/verizon-htc-desire-4g-lte/

want to trade my inspire

Want to trade/sell my inspire to get a different phone... something with around the same specs and screen size. Is a iPhone 3GS better? I need a new phone cause I can't handle the edge connection. I unlokced my ispire for tmobile and that's all I get is edge, I want 3g...
Any ideas or thoughts on good trades...
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Yeah go buy an iphone. Oh wait, you will only get edge with it too. If you want 3G data on T-mobile then buy a T-mobile phone. Try this link: http://www.t-mobile.com

SdRasta said:
Is a iPhone 3GS better?
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You're joking, right?
Seriously though, if you are on T-Mobile, you should be looking for a phone that works on their bands. As far as a trade, I don't know what you could expect to get for an Inspire right now.

I know on cdma theres an app to force 3G on roam and it works pretty good. And there are tweaks for unlocked phones on other networks to force 3G. Is this not possible for GSM?
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Roaming has NOTHING to do with it. T-mobile has it's own distinct 3G data bands that are different from the rest of the world. If you want 3G on T-mobile, get a T-mobile branded phone. Go to the T-mobile link I gave you and look at the phones and their reviews. And this topic has nothing to do with the Inspire let alone the development of it.

How much are you asking for your inspire?
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA

We arent your financial advisers haha. best thing wouldl be go to tmobile and find a phone that works on their network. google gsm arena, that will get u a site that lists phone specs and you can compare them. research = key.

I have to agree. If you want 3g then get a tmobile phone. Its hat simple.
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International One X vs AT&T One X? Any advice from people with both phones?

I currently Have a ATT HTC One X back ordered on Amazon. While waiting it got me thinking maybe I should just grab the international version instead. Im so confused on what to do. Paying full price is not really a problem because it will just save my upgrade. Also I dont have LTE in my area yet, and even when it did come I think I would be fine with 4-6 mbs that HSPA provides. The main reason I want the INT is because of the extra storage space. Ive heard the CPUs are about the same (maybe S4 even being a little quicker). Hows the battery life on both? Is there any other factors or differences I am over looking. Any input from some one with both phones would be great! Thanks.

PeterHTC has done an excellent writeup on this topic, and tons of subsequent discussion by other members on that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1609878
Do you already have AT&T service? Your Sprint logo avator is confusing.

Thanks for the link, reading it now. Ya I am on sprint now until I get my One X. Was about to call and cancel my service the day before it was going to ship but then it got back ordered. Glad I didn't yet lol. Either way I am switching soon, either going to get INT version or just bite the $50 bullet and go get one from AT&T or Best Buy.

My 2 cents.
I had the Intl One X on release and it was very buggy.
To the point that I sold it in a week and stayed on my iPhone until the ATT version came out.
The ATT version is rock sold over the Intl version, but I'm really missing the extra storage.
If there were new software updates on the Intl version that fixed all the issues I might swap back, yes I do have LTE were I live and yes its super fast, but what I do on my phone doesn't really require a 20 mb download. I'd like to store ripped videos for travel and not rely so much on streaming which you have to do on the ATT One X.

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Ya I am on sprint now until I get my One X.
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Reason I ask, do you know for a fact that you will have decent HSPA+ speed on AT&T where you need it? My house is supposed to be in a 4G HSPA+ coverage zone. But I was getting dismal data speeds often around 0.2 to 0.5 Mbps, and maybe 1 Mbps at best. Now on LTE, I get 27 Mbps in the same location.
At my work, I was usually getting from 3 to 5 Mbps on HSPA+. Not bad, and just fine for most things. But the HSPA+ at my house were near useless sometimes.

Why wouldn't you just get Evo LTE? It has a bigger battery and a sd card slot!
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c5satellite2 said:
Why wouldn't you just get Evo LTE? It has a bigger battery and a sd card slot!
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It's sprint... nuff said
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got a-Dev ?
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Everybody says they're fine with hspa+ until they actually experience LTE speeds. When I went back home too Houston and was consistently getting over 44Mbps down, I was literally blown away. It's that much of a difference.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

My international phone arrived today. I think I'm returning it. Staying with a US model and its warranty seems safer.

Ya sprint sucks man. Horrible data speeds. Also IMO Evo 4glte is super ugly.
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gunnyman said:
My international phone arrived today. I think I'm returning it. Staying with a US model and its warranty seems safer.
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Interesting, care to explain the reasons? I had an opportunity to trade 1 for 1 with a international version so I'm curious.
Sent from my HTC Edge

Just the security of knowing I can get a warranty replacement from att if I need it.

For gaming: International
For everything else: AT&T HOX

c5satellite2 said:
Why wouldn't you just get Evo LTE? It has a bigger battery and a sd card slot!
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA
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I was thinking the EVO 4G LTE for those same reasons, but apparently the battery life is just OK. It proves yet again that hardware specs mean nothing if Carriers screw up the firmware. What other explanation could there be for poor battery life, other than CDMA uses alot more battery than GSM?

I just switched from sprint to the att one x and its wayyyyyyy better!!! And the speeds are way better! I was happy to get 6 down and today I got an lte signal (live in cleveland not official) and I got 50 down outside and 35 inside my house which is better then the .035 from sprint lol
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lamenramen said:
I was thinking the EVO 4G LTE for those same reasons, but apparently the battery life is just OK. It proves yet again that hardware specs mean nothing if Carriers screw up the firmware. What other explanation could there be for poor battery life, other than CDMA uses alot more battery than GSM?
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You said it CDMA drains battery faster thats why they prob put the bigger battery in there. No sd card and only 16 GB of internal (actually even less lol) will suck but ill get used to it. The pros of the phone outways the cons. Pretty sure Im just gonna stick with the Att HOX.
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gunnyman said:
My international phone arrived today. I think I'm returning it. Staying with a US model and its warranty seems safer.
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LOL, so the grass isn't any greener over there?
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gunnyman said:
My international phone arrived today. I think I'm returning it. Staying with a US model and its warranty seems safer.
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Lol...you're all over the place man
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You people act like you never changed your minds about something.

gunnyman said:
You people act like you never changed your minds about something.
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No im glad you said that that pretty much made up my mind on getting the ATT version
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