In the form of custom rom?
heard the lumia 800 latest firmware has excellent battery life.
No, it would be of no benefit as the enhancements provided by firmware updates are device specific.
It's not that the lumia 800 12070 firmware has excellent battery life. It has excellent battery life in comparison to the awful battery life of fw version 11500.
Magpir said:
In the form of custom rom?
heard the lumia 800 latest firmware has excellent battery life.
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I would imagine the enhancements are done in the Lumia's drivers. Because of how roms are setup, drivers are stored in the XIP, while the Windows system is stored in SYS. You could port the SYS from the Lumia, but the XIP would be impossible, since if you tried, you could brick your phone. Each XIP need to support the phones specific hardware.
Look here at the official cab update thread, and you will see that the Lumia 800 has had more driver updates then.. well.. pretty much every other phone (and it didn't have a NoDo release!).
it seems that HTC refuse to optimise their drivers.
You cannot because they are driver specific i.e. in this case its Lumia specific. Moreover its the same OS just the drivers are different, optimized and well done by Nokia.
Seems like all other competitors will soon loose their WP market to Nokia altogether.
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Hey,
Why is there no android version for the N8?
Could anyone create it? There is enough animo for it.
If i read some forums I see that some people want it. Why not?
Also it has the best mobile camera in the world.
If someone can run android on it it would be the best device ever. (I think)
I could find an answer on this forum. But I think this is already changed.
(That there isn't enough animo for it. But there is!)
I'm also a newb in this world. But I like android and the compatibility that the most devices already have with it.
Kevin
I dont know if its that simple. I dont rly know if the android suitable for N8, anyway would be nice to have it (even though that i have HD2, which i think that is much better than N8.) If its possible, my friends will have android too! xD
indeed!
I think an android developer must buy an n8.. that he can see it's a wonderfull device.
And then create android for it.
Not all phones are like hd2, where you can have different os
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Not all people wants a HD2
you are not alone my friend!
I too wish the N8 had Android.
It is a much better device than the HD2, screen size isn't everything.
coldest~~~ said:
Not all phones are like hd2, where you can have different os
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anything is possible, it just takes time.
and in the HD2's favor, it had hardware that was common across different platforms.
plus a big userbase
Isnt the N8 nokia soft based on Debian? couldn't drivers be ported my friend has this device and yes the camera is amazing on it
I thougt it was only meego and maemo wich is debian based?
i was thinking to get a nokia n8 untill ive found out that nokia had very low quality development for that new symbian version, and that they moved torwards windows mobile... i never liked windows mobile and since they were not going for android i said whats the point, on paper the nokia n8 is amazing, but it has some problems aswell, for example the cpu is only 625mhz, while its arguably enough to run android, im not entirely sure it has all the instruction sets compatible with it, emulation is out of the question too, the android code would have to be natively changed to work for it, and then there had to be the matter of games, they also had to be coded properly for that specific gpu,cpu and sound chip, accelerometer and so on.
So thats why ppl dont usually port phones to android, its a mess to code and most of the drivers they have to code them from scratch.
TheWarKeeper said:
i was thinking to get a nokia n8 untill ive found out that nokia had very low quality development for that new symbian version, and that they moved torwards windows mobile... i never liked windows mobile and since they were not going for android i said whats the point, on paper the nokia n8 is amazing, but it has some problems aswell, for example the cpu is only 625mhz, while its arguably enough to run android, im not entirely sure it has all the instruction sets compatible with it, emulation is out of the question too, the android code would have to be natively changed to work for it, and then there had to be the matter of games, they also had to be coded properly for that specific gpu,cpu and sound chip, accelerometer and so on.
So thats why ppl dont usually port phones to android, its a mess to code and most of the drivers they have to code them from scratch.
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The CPU is official build for 750mhz. So it can run faster.. Also i heard that the new version of android (3.0?) has hardware acceleration for the UI. So the GPU can be used for it.
cpu for android need nore juice and ram.
battery life will be hunger for more to join android.
nokia seem battery effective device.low power consumption
under18 said:
cpu for android need nore juice and ram.
battery life will be hunger for more to join android.
nokia seem battery effective device.low power consumption
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Why?
The HTC ChaCha and Salsa has a 600 mhz processor... And still Android runs on it.
Indeed the ram is littlebit low 256 mb...
Chacha is 800Mhz, 512 of ram..
yeah i wish that someone would find a way to port android to n8 i recently got one and dont like symbian os, any way i'll keep on searching if no luck, guess i have to get an android phone
Edit: forgot to say i had a sony ericsson x8 which had 600 Mhz processor and 256mb ram and i was even able to run android 4.0 on it dunno why n8 would not run on this device
The question is why port android to N8? The N8 is a wonderful device as is. If you have an N8 you probably bought it for it's camera prowess. Bonus: you get a very long battery life (compared to droids). Now if you want to port android on it then it will become power hungry and will be full of glitches since it has poor dev support. Also, you wouldn't want a slow droid. 600mhz for a droid is quite slow, and as stated, the RAM is low. You're better off buying an affordable Galaxy Y. Believe me it's quite fast, if you can live with it's low res screen.
Cheers,
Cezar
kevinwalter said:
Hey,
Why is there no android version for the N8?
Could anyone create it? There is enough animo for it.
If i read some forums I see that some people want it. Why not?
Also it has the best mobile camera in the world.
If someone can run android on it it would be the best device ever. (I think)
I could find an answer on this forum. But I think this is already changed.
(That there isn't enough animo for it. But there is!)
I'm also a newb in this world. But I like android and the compatibility that the most devices already have with it.
Kevin
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it's not possible to port Android or any other OS to symbian phones because of locked bootloaders by Nokia
Nokia n9 is running meego OS which is with unlocked bootloaders and that's why this phone can have dual boot or just one OS like Android 4.x.x ICS
I want it too
I have an Nokia N8 too and i would love to run android on it.
So if there is any way to install android on it....
I also have nokia n8, it was really a great phone,hi quality build, superb. And I fine with symbian^3 but what bothering me was that the nokia apps store is getting useless. I need BBM and can't find any.
Hi, I have seen many android phones with a decent specs that look much better than WP7 phone currently on the market.
WP7 Phones mostly use almost out dated hardware of android phones. Example, new Nokia Lumia 900 use Snapdragon 1.4ghz single core and Adreno 205 which are mostly found in last year android phones.
so if the same hardware found in android phones, is there any custom WP7/WP7.5 ROM for similar Android Phones's hardware ?
any "strong" dev can port it ?
2 questions.
there are skins that allow your android device to look like wp7. why not try that?
since wp7 runs perfectly well on single core wvga resolution so why not get a proper wp?
if i'm not wrong, wp7 is not designed to work with dual core, and anything higher than wvga resolution so it isn't that easy. also, people who like the look and feel of wp7 would tend to do my first point, while those who really want the functionality of wp7 would just get a wp, so the market isn't that big.
i could be wrong though
Illeagality
tangbunna said:
so if the same hardware found in android phones, is there any custom WP7/WP7.5 ROM for similar Android Phones's hardware ?
any "strong" dev can port it ?
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Whilst it is true that nearly any developer could port it seeing how close some windows phone 7 and android phones are in terms of hardware. Take the desire s and the radar for example.
However windows phone 7 is not an open source operating system like android. Effectively it is the same a a standard desktop version of windows in terms of the legality of installing it. You need to buy a license and the only way to do this is buy a phone with it pre installed. This license is also non transferable. Also Microsoft record a hardware ID for each phone they license wp7 to run on and this ID is required to use features such as the app store and xbox live. Whilst you could port it you wouldn't be able to use 90% of the features not due to incompatibility but due to the fact that the Microsoft servers wouldn't let you.
Also are you aware that by asking someone to port it you are violating the forum rules with regard to piracy?
Wp 7.5 rom is available for htc hd2 (leo)
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girish07 said:
Wp 7.5 rom is available for htc hd2 (leo)
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That's rather surprising, but probably only possible because the hardware of the HD2 is *very* close to the hardware of some "true" WP7 phones, especially display resolution.
Display is important because WP7 so far is strongly resolution dependent - it simply won't run with anything else than 800 x 480. Maybe with the right drivers the OS itself would run, but countless apps would probably produce nonsense with another resolution.
im gona try this found that some devices like lumia 610 / 510 / and samsung galaxy s duos have almost same specifications but problem is that androids have less gpu and wont do with windows phone but it would be alot more faster if we do that
Hey Guys does anybody know that if lumia 710 can be dual booted(windows phone+android os) as htc-hd2(can check on youtube)??
Developers like ultrashot,lucifer3006,dft has blessed us with huge utilities of wp7 but can they make "THIS" happen????
Pretty unlikely. You'd have to make an Android firmware for the Lumia, which would require a bunch of drivers that aren't available. The HD2 is relatively easy to port to because there are lots of Android phones from HTC, plus people know a lot about the HD2's internals and can use tools like HaRET to study it. None of that is currently true with the Lumias.
That said, somebody could surprise me. Just don't hold your breath.
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Pretty unlikely. You'd have to make an Android firmware for the Lumia, which would require a bunch of drivers that aren't available. The HD2 is relatively easy to port to because there are lots of Android phones from HTC, plus people know a lot about the HD2's internals and can use tools like HaRET to study it. None of that is currently true with the Lumias.
That said, somebody could surprise me. Just don't hold your breath.
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but some nokia belle os devices are able to have android on them .. , would it be possible to have dualboot with belle os?
leostimac said:
but some nokia belle os devices are able to have android on them .. , would it be possible to have dualboot with belle os?
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LOL DUDE!!! Symbian Devices from Nokia has locked UBOOT bootloaders, so Installing android on them is not possible. Maybe you are pointing at Nokia N9 which is not a symbian phone, and it runs on MeeGo OS which is Linux-based... Like he said earlier, Installing android on Lumia is not possible yet, but let's wait for our friendly devs to fix that... hehe
hello everyone,
i am planing to purchase lumia 800 but i have few doubts regaurding this phone
here they go:-
1. how is the battery backup ?
2. will there be no upgrade after the 7.8 ?
3. is the white version built of same polycarbonate non painted material?
4. is there a way for bluetooth file transfer?
plz reply soon...
1. I assume you mean battery life? It's supposed to be "fixed" now with the latest Nokia firmware, but it's still no better than average for a smartphone.
2. Nobody knows. We don't even know everything that 7.8 will have. There's a possibility of a 7.9, I guess, but I'm not expecting it.
3. Unknown, but probably. You can probably find a detailed spes sheet online.
4. Not currently. There was a way to install custom ROMs on some Lumia 800s, but it requires an old bootloader that new phones don't ship with.
Hi dears,
I would like to know if there is a rom of wp8 for htc 7pro ,
if does not exist, will it be realised in future?
Thanks
Simply put.... in our dreams
htc7pro said:
Hi dears,
I would like to know if there is a rom of wp8 for htc 7pro ,
if does not exist, will it be realised in future?
Thanks
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it would be highly unlikely for it to be ported to any windows phone 7 device as it runs a different software core then wp7. at the core of wp7.x is windows mobile and at the core of wp8 is windows so likely many of the drivers would not be compatible any more... and even if it could be it would likely suffer from very poor performance. and on top of it our device is not all that popular of a device ... so if I had to rate the likelihood of a port on a one to ten scale. One being not happening and Ten being it's practically written in stone - a 2 maybe a 3
sorry ... try one of the 7.8 roms if you want the look of 8 right now
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it would be highly unlikely for it to be ported to any windows phone 7 device as it runs a different software core then wp7. at the core of wp7.x is windows mobile and at the core of wp8 is windows so likely many of the drivers would not be compatible any more... and even if it could be it would likely suffer from very poor performance. and on top of it our device is not all that popular of a device ... so if I had to rate the likelihood of a port on a one to ten scale. One being not happening and Ten being it's practically written in stone - a 2 maybe a 3
sorry ... try one of the 7.8 roms if you want the look of 8 right now
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Id actually give it a 5 or 6 it will be difficult but far from impossible, we have already seen wp8 running on the HD2 which has the same specs as the arrive, and other first generation WP7 phones, the first generation phones are fully capable of running wp8 as far as the hardware is concerned its more just a matter of compatibility with drivers and such.
turdsamich said:
Id actually give it a 5 or 6 it will be difficult but far from impossible, we have already seen wp8 running on the HD2 which has the same specs as the arrive, and other first generation WP7 phones, the first generation phones are fully capable of running wp8 as far as the hardware is concerned its more just a matter of compatibility with drivers and such.
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has that rom reached stability?
HD2 has SD card slot and known configuration. You all are invited to HaRET WP7 testing. When finished, HTC7Pro hardware can be able to host much different operating systems.
Martin7Pro said:
HD2 has SD card slot and known configuration. You all are invited to HaRET WP7 testing. When finished, HTC7Pro hardware can be able to host much different operating systems.
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Thank you very much. How can I take part in the HaRET WP7 testing? I would be glad if I could be of any assistance.
Kind regards,
DAC324
DAC324 said:
Thank you very much. How can I take part in the HaRET WP7 testing? I would be glad if I could be of any assistance.
Kind regards,
DAC324
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I finished HaRET WP7 testing, becasuse it is danger, my HTC7Pro was destroyed by it. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483377&page=41#post64252180