will revolutionary work to root still after OTA ICS update? - HTC Sensation

So when my girls phone gets the ICS update will i still be able to root it the same using the same method using Revolutionary as i did mine on stock from stock Gingerbread?

Not at present no - it's needs to be updated to work on the 1.27 HBOOT
Best thing is to go back to stock but leave it S-OFF - that way you can then flash CWM after it's updated

EddyOS said:
Not at present no - it's needs to be updated to work on the 1.27 HBOOT
Best thing is to go back to stock but leave it S-OFF - that way you can then flash CWM after it's updated
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Thanks, I had her wait to get rooted so we can see what that update is like at least on one of our phones...I already done mine when i first got it I couldnt wait lol
So I wonder what the time frame would be for someone to come up with a root method for the Sensation after the ICS update hits....or for Revolutionary to be upgraded to handle that
Because Im sure she will want me to root if she dont like the OTA update. And Im sure she will hit me with the "i thought you told me you would root it after we check out the update" yup opened my mouth to soon...

I'd S-OFF it now, then flash the stock recovery back onto it so you can get the OTA but still have the option if she doesn't like it

EddyOS said:
I'd S-OFF it now, then flash the stock recovery back onto it so you can get the OTA but still have the option if she doesn't like it
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ok so updating the phone after S off wont make it go back S on ?

Nope, it doesn't that
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[Q] Serious trouble with my Desire S

Hey guys,
I was on 2.3 Gingerbread with S-OFF and rooted (on sense 2.1). My aim is to get the new 3.0 sense (stock firmware without root etc).
So i decided to retrieve the stock FW unroot and flash RUU, so i can update OTA to the new sense.
The ROMs i found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
but i accidently flashed from RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1 to RUU_Saga_TMO_DE_1.30.111.1 with t-mobile branding.
now i tried to go back to stock europe ROM which i first had, but i am now on 1.30 and i think downgrading will brick my phone, am i right? I am still S-OFF and tried to flash the RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4 version but it also shows me, this:
current ROM: 1.30.111.1
new ROM: 1.28.401.1
what can i do to get my stock FW back and update to the new sense without downgrading or getting my phone bricked? i even would be able to give up my root, but is there any way?
now it shows this:
SAGA PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-6.98.1002
RADIO-38.03.02.11_M
eMMC-boot
thanks for your help!
cheers,
swordlink
I appreciate that this isn't quite the question that you are asking, but, if you're S-OFF, I'm assuming that you also have CWM (clock work mod) recovery installed?
Why don't you simply flash one of the pre-rooted custom ROMS such as LBC.
ben_pyett said:
I appreciate that this isn't quite the question that you are asking, but, if you're S-OFF, I'm assuming that you also have CWM (clock work mod) recovery installed?
Why don't you simply flash one of the pre-rooted custom ROMS such as LBC.
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well i used to have it on my europe firmware as i had my device rooted and clockwork recovery installed, but as i updated to "TMO_DE_1.30.111.1", my recovery was set back to the default one from htc.. so i have no idea on how to flash back to 1.28
but thanks for helping me
ben_pyett said:
I appreciate that this isn't quite the question that
Why don't you simply flash one of the pre-rooted custom ROMS such as LBC.
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because if i am prerooted, i cannot update via OTA, right?
swordlink said:
because if i am prerooted, i cannot update via OTA, right?
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yup.at least i didnt manage to get updates...if u root your phone once u can flash some of latest prerooted shipped roms .Check my signature
Adidas108 said:
yup.at least i didnt manage to get updates...if u root your phone once u can flash some of latest prerooted shipped roms .Check my signature
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but if i flash this: RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085 AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed_prerooted
i would downgrade my phone.. and brick it
regarding my situation, how can i totally go back to any stock europe firmware? please someone help me out!
Sense 3.0 isn't coming out officially for the desire s so you would need to root your phone to install it.
swordlink said:
but if i flash this: RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085 AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed_prerooted
i would downgrade my phone.. and brick it
regarding my situation, how can i totally go back to any stock europe firmware? please someone help me out!
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im not an expert but i dont think downgrading your phone will brick it
but you should wait for another reply before you try
but look at this
can you give us more info? like your hboot version & if you are s-off after the update?
ste1164 said:
Sense 3.0 isn't coming out officially for the desire s so you would need to root your phone to install it.
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wtf? i thought it is out already? i even was asked to update my desire s via OTA?
swordlink said:
because if i am prerooted, i cannot update via OTA, right?
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I believe that that is the case, although IMO OTA's aren't anything great..and aren't that frequent either!
Usually custom ROMs have many additional fixes included as well as extra functionality on top of the stock and it doesn't take very long after an OTA is released that it's usually incorporated within the next custom release.
You should be able to use GingerBreak to get root and then you'll be able to download ROM Manager free from the market and this should enable you to easily install CWM.
Now you have CWM installed you are able to download any custom ROM of your choice.
swordlink said:
Hey guys,
I was on 2.3 Gingerbread with S-OFF and rooted (on sense 2.1). My aim is to get the new 3.0 sense (stock firmware without root etc).
So i decided to retrieve the stock FW unroot and flash RUU, so i can update OTA to the new sense.
The ROMs i found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
but i accidently flashed from RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1 to RUU_Saga_TMO_DE_1.30.111.1 with t-mobile branding.
now i tried to go back to stock europe ROM which i first had, but i am now on 1.30 and i think downgrading will brick my phone, am i right? I am still S-OFF and tried to flash the RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4 version but it also shows me, this:
current ROM: 1.30.111.1
new ROM: 1.28.401.1
what can i do to get my stock FW back and update to the new sense without downgrading or getting my phone bricked? i even would be able to give up my root, but is there any way?
thanks for your help!
cheers,
swordlink
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push this via adb, you'll then be able to RUU your rom.
ben_pyett said:
I believe that that is the case, although IMO OTA's aren't anything great..and aren't that frequent either!
Usually custom ROMs have many additional fixes included as well as extra functionality on top of the stock and it doesn't take very long after an OTA is released that it's usually incorporated within the next custom release.
You should be able to use GingerBreak to get root and then you'll be able to download ROM Manager free from the market and this should enable you to easily install CWM. From there you'll be able to install a custom of your choice.
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DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES INSTALL A ROM USING ROM MANAGER!!!!!!
It causes more problems than its worth!!!
InfernalByte said:
DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES INSTALL A ROM USING ROM MANAGER!!!!!!
It causes more problems than its worth!!!
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You misunderstood what I was saying, perhaps it was slightly ambiguous...(I'll amend it)
I was suggesting that he install CWM from ROMManager and from that position install any custom from the Desire S dev forum.
ben_pyett said:
You misunderstood what I was saying, perhaps it was slightly ambiguous...(I'll amend it)
I was suggesting that he install CWM from ROMManager and from that position install any custom from the Desire S dev forum.
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OK. Let me make myself clear about rom manager. Do not use it for ANYTHING! AT ALL!!!! DELETE IT. Go on... now, yes, I mean you.
No pudding until that's all been deleted.
How come he thinks downgrading would brick his Phone!?
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ehm. guys, i only want a stock firmware LOL
now is there a way, or not?
SAGA PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-6.98.1002
RADIO-38.03.02.11_M
eMMC-boot
InfernalByte said:
OK. Let me make myself clear about rom manager. Do not use it for ANYTHING! AT ALL!!!! DELETE IT. Go on... now, yes, I mean you.
No pudding until that's all been deleted.
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You'll need to justify this statement, it's a useful application that enables you to manage your backups and now that LBC's ROM has enabled ROM Manager support within the latest release (v0.5.4) it's become a vital to enable future updates.
ben_pyett said:
You'll need to justify this statement, it's a useful application that enables you to manage your backups and now that LBC's ROM has enabled ROM Manager support within the latest release (v0.5.4) it's become a vital to enable future updates.
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offtopic, dude
btw i did a backup of my system as i was on the rooted device..
so.. am i able to get my europe firmware back or not and if yes: how? simply the only question
swordlink said:
offtopic, dude
btw i did a backup of my system as i was on the rooted device..
so.. am i able to get my europe firmware back or not and if yes: how? simply the only question
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Fair call.... sorry..
To do a restore I believe that you'll need to be root, so you could re-root your device using Gingerbreak and then restore your backup using dare i say it ROM Manager.
neomis said:
How come he thinks downgrading would brick his Phone!?
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because i read something like this? am i wrong?
i thought it's the same with iPhone, Nokia etc..?

[GUIDE][2.3.4 OFFICIAL HTC S-OFF ROOT] Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.45.401.2-1.35.401.1_P2

THIS IS FOR UNBRANDED 401 PHONES ONLY! IT MIGHT WORK FOR OTHERS BUT I WOULD RATHER NOT TRY...
Update 2011/08/14
Added more information and details
Renamed thread into GUIDE
Using this guide will reset your device into a vanilla 2.3.4 HTC Sensation phone. Your SD-Card wont be touched and you will have S-OFF and root. This will lock your bootloader but that should not be a problem since you are still S-OFF and can flash whatever you want - except the bootloader. I tested these steps and i have a 2.3.4 401 Sensation with Locked HBOOT, S-OFF and root.
If you want S-OFF & ROOT on the latest HTC 2.3.4 ROM follow the steps:
1) Backup
2) Get S-OFF on 2.3.3 (Guide Thread)
3) Recover your phone with original 2.3.3 Update
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cc03797/n/RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.35.401.1_Radio_10.43a.900 7.00U_10.51.9007.27_M3_release_198179_signed.exe
4) Update to 2.3.4 via "Over The Air" (OTA) or using OpenRecovery (OR). I did not use the OR-Method but you can find a lot of information about here. I do not advertise any guides for the OR-method since i did not test them myself.
4) Execute step 2.1 to 2.6 from the Sensation Guide (Guide Thread)
5) Get root again: Sensation Guide 3.1 to 3.12 (Guide Thread)
Have fun!
dacleric said:
....
4) Update to 2.3.4 via ...... using recovery.
Have fun!
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How? Can some please explain step by step?
Thanks
anyone have a change log? google failed me for once in my life
The 2.3.4 update include an new hboot Version 1.18...
Are u sure that u can install cwm and root the phone again after applying the update?
I think u will be s-on again after the hboot get changed...
Everything I'm reading (the two other threads about this update) says the above method will NOT work. I don't think the OP even tried. Wait for a real dev to cook this up.
dacleric said:
THIS IS FOR UNBRANDED 401 PHONES ONLY! IT MIGHT WORK FOR OTHERS BUT I WOULD RATHER NOT TRY...
Using this guide will reset your device into a vanilla 2.3.4 HTC Sensation phone. Your SD-Card wont be touched and you will have S-OFF and root.
If you want S-OFF & ROOT on the latest HTC 2.3.4 ROM follow the steps:
1) Backup
2) Get S-OFF on 2.3.3 (Guide Thread)
3) Recover your phone with original 2.3.3 Update
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cc03797/n/RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.35.401.1_Radio_10.43a.900 7.00U_10.51.9007.27_M3_release_198179_signed.exe
4) Update to 2.3.4 via OTA or using recovery.
4) Execute step 2.1 to 2.6 from the Sensation Guide (Guide Thread)
5) Get root again: Sensation Guide 3.1 to 3.12 (Guide Thread)
Have fun!
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All perfect....but...my HBOOT shows ***LOCKED***..... What`s that?
^^ see the thread in the general section about this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1214707
Around page ten or so.
And this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16585832&postcount=123
A little more:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16582890&postcount=31
eloyloy said:
All perfect....but...my HBOOT shows ***LOCKED***..... What`s that?
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Oh boy Some of use knew this was gonna happen
do not flash this to a stock rooted rom - it will **** it up - wait for your favourite dev to update their rom
flashing this will give you the new locked htc bootloader and you will not be s-off anymore (even though it still says you are)
it's taken me nearly 3 hours to get back to normal
EddyOS said:
When I say I'm S-OFF again, I mean I'm back to my old 2.3.3 ROM before I flashed the new update.
Everyone, DO NOT TRY AND FLASH THIS OVER YOUR ROOTED PHONE - WAIT FOR YOUR ROM TO BE UPDATED BY THE DEVS
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xxxxxxxxxxx
Ledroid will tell us
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Hi all,
I've just done this update
Backup with Titanium
Reflash with 2.3.3 stock ROM (my Sensation was already S-Off)
OTA update to 2.3.4
ClockWork Recovery
Root
Restore with Titanium
Reboot and that's it
No OTA
I did exactly like shown in the first post, but i wont get the update ota. It sais that my phone is actually actual.
Could I have done something wrong?
Got the Sensation from T-mobile -> debrandet it like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193033
And used the RUU version from the first post.
Thanks
done as suggested - works fine for me!
I was off this weekend.
I posted this howto cause i did it with my phone. Whyever would i post a guide when it does not work?!
Using this guide will lock your bootloader but that should not be a problem since you are still S-OFF and can flash whatever you want - except the bootloader.
At least thats the case for me.
dacleric said:
Using this guide will lock your bootloader but that should not be a problem since you are still S-OFF and can flash whatever you want - except the bootloader.
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Are you sure you can't flash the eng hboot too?
dazweeja said:
Are you sure you can't flash the eng hboot too?
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no - i did not try to.
I am pretty happy with my phone right now. Fast and long battery pack - replaced Sense with LP.
When testing the early (pre-soff) custom roms and test recoverys I had to flash stock RUUs a couple of times.
To get the phone back into a decent state I needed to pg58 flash eng&unsecured boot then root and fastboot recovery.
Can't for the life of me think why anyone would s-off their phone then install stock/ota for any reason (bar repair). It's like buying a track day race car, shouting "look what I've got" then pushing it around rather than thrashing it.
dazweeja said:
Are you sure you can't flash the eng hboot too?
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If you just flash the new hboot, it will say lock at the top of the bootloader screen. But you should be able to flash eng hboot, cause I just tried it.
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d3vilskid said:
If you just flash the new hboot, it will say lock at the top of the bootloader screen. But you should be able to flash eng hboot, cause I just tried it.
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Thanks. That's what I thought. I removed the hboot from the OTA before flashing it so couldn't confirm for myself. There's been a lot of conflicting information about whether phones are still S-OFF after running the unmodified OTA but it appears that they are. I only ran the RUU then OTA so I could have a backup of a stock 1.45 system.img.
dazweeja said:
Thanks. That's what I thought. I removed the hboot from the OTA before flashing it so couldn't confirm for myself. There's been a lot of conflicting information about whether phones are still S-OFF after running the unmodified OTA but it appears that they are. I only ran the RUU then OTA so I could have a backup of a stock 1.45 system.img.
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Np, i was trying to figure out how to flash pg2fs_spcustom.img and I found out that the only way to do it was to flash the new hboot first than it would read that pg2fs img.
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Is it safe to update 1.45.161.1 OTA with Clockwork Recovery, Root, S-OFF & SuperCID

Is it safe to update 1.45.161.1 OTA with Clockwork Recovery, Root, S-OFF & SuperCID
is it safe to update the OTA update if you have Clockwork Recovery, Root, S-OFF & SuperCID on sensation
Vodafone UK Sensation
I want to know the same thing. I got the update but when it turned off it showed the Android with exclamation in triangle.
Damn. I'm s -off and rooted.
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you will not be able do update go to dev forums there is a stock rom with 1.45 rooted download and apply
amorek13 said:
you will not be able do update go to dev forums there is a stock rom with 1.45 rooted download and apply
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Hello...im new to android...can you please explain a bit more...when u said go to dev...where exactly i should go...i even have the same issue..
please help
mulkman said:
is it safe to update the OTA update if you have Clockwork Recovery, Root, S-OFF & SuperCID on sensation
Vodafone UK Sensation
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nexicon said:
I want to know the same thing. I got the update but when it turned off it showed the Android with exclamation in triangle.
Damn. I'm s -off and rooted.
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Hi,
If you have s-off rooted phone,why on earth do you want OTA?
A custom ROM should have the OTA function switched off.
It will only mess up your phone by mixing HTC updates with custom ROM updates.
Anything released by HTC will soon be incorporated into custom ROMS.
If you want OTA updates,then s-on and do it.
malybru said:
Hi,
If you have s-off rooted phone,why on earth do you want OTA?
A custom ROM should have the OTA function switched off.
It will only mess up your phone by mixing HTC updates with custom ROM updates.
Anything released by HTC will soon be incorporated into custom ROMS.
If you want OTA updates,then s-on and do it.
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A lot of people dont load a custom rom after s-off. They have most likely run the Revolutionary tool to root then just stick with stock in which case OTA updates will keep prompting.
As previous post says you cannot update OTA if a custom recovery has been flashed. Go to the Sensation Android Development section and search for a pre-rooted version, download, copy to SD card and flash in recovery.

What to do before instal new OTA JB?

Hi there. Got a message on my phone to install new JB Update, BUT, my one S is rooted, hboot 1.16 ,TWRP Recovery, Rom stock 4.0.4.
I probably need to relock bootloader and flash stock recovery. I tried to find some nooby guide about that but no joy and after seeing that a few people bricked their phone I want to be sure Im doing everything correctly. So.
1. Do I need to flash stock recovery first?
2. If so then maybe relock bootloader. How?
3. Run Update. How?
Thanks for answer.
And merry Xmas.
:thumbup:
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You need to unroot and relock bootloader. After you do this you download and install the update and then you re-unlock bootloader and re-root you want
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You can just flash the stock recovery. And change CID to HTC__001.
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tominozh said:
Hi there. Got a message on my phone to install new JB Update, BUT, my one S is rooted, hboot 1.16 ,TWRP Recovery, Rom stock 4.0.4.
I probably need to relock bootloader and flash stock recovery. I tried to find some nooby guide about that but no joy and after seeing that a few people bricked their phone I want to be sure Im doing everything correctly. So.
1. Do I need to flash stock recovery first?
2. If so then maybe relock bootloader. How?
3. Run Update. How?
Thanks for answer.
And merry Xmas.
:thumbup:
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Are you in the USA ??
---------- Post added at 07:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:46 PM ----------
How do you do that?
You can just flash the stock recovery. And change CID to HTC__001.
I am useing t mobile with 2.31.401 .If i will change super cid to HTC__001 will be save to install ota sense4+ update?
i don't think he is or else i would have gotten the same message of JB
regarding your phone, i would suggest relocking and unrooting, else it may crash...
i have the same question, im new with my htc one s and i got it already rooted and it runs on a viperoneS so i dont have any idea on how the 1st owner did it and i dont know anything about modding this phone. i try to look at one s forums on how to go back to stock but no luck.
info of my phone( the things i know on my phone)
unluck bootloader
rooted with supersu
clockworkmod (inside this program i saw 3 recoveries in the backup/recovery menu, oneS ics stock, oneS ics rooted, viperoneS)
my one s runs viperoneS 1.2.1
now i want to get back to stock rom because i want to update to official jellybean.
i hope someone can teach me or lead me on how to do it.
OR
should i just wait for viperoneS to update to JB?
Thanks in advance peeps
What's this talk of people bricking during the ota with supercid? I was under the impression that taking an ota while unlocked is a bad idea
absolutelygrim said:
What's this talk of people bricking during the ota with supercid? I was under the impression that taking an ota while unlocked is a bad idea
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It's usually not a very good idea to install an OTA whilst unlocked, there's a small chance it will mess up (higher than if it were locked). But what doubles that chance is if you have SuperCID, the new JB OTA messes up at least 60% of phones with SuperCID. I don't know why, since SuperCID is supported in the android-info.txt.
It might be because when you're SuperCID'd, does it say that in HBOOT? If a new HBOOT like 2.15 needs to overwrite the previous one, it might cause problems. That's just a guess though, and doesn't explain why it went smoothly for other people.
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yfcpunishment said:
i have the same question, im new with my htc one s and i got it already rooted and it runs on a viperoneS so i dont have any idea on how the 1st owner did it and i dont know anything about modding this phone. i try to look at one s forums on how to go back to stock but no luck.
info of my phone( the things i know on my phone)
unluck bootloader
rooted with supersu
clockworkmod (inside this program i saw 3 recoveries in the backup/recovery menu, oneS ics stock, oneS ics rooted, viperoneS)
my one s runs viperoneS 1.2.1
now i want to get back to stock rom because i want to update to official jellybean.
i hope someone can teach me or lead me on how to do it.
OR
should i just wait for viperoneS to update to JB?
Thanks in advance peeps
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anybody please?
yfcpunishment said:
anybody please?
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I updated OTA on a virgin device. I now want to revert back to ICS. So if anyone has a way of permanently rooting a JB device on S4, please bell me.

ICS to Gingerbread with S-ON

ok my girls phone did an OTA update to ICS..Problem is she hates it, want to go back to Gingerbread. I have it unlocked with S-on. cant get to S-off because the OTA updated hboot to 1.08. What i want to know is their anyway to go back, i know i cant install custom roms becasue of s-on.
Thanks guys
Root and flash stock gb with ota blocked
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See this thread for gaining s-off after the ICS OTA:
http://www.forums.infectedrom.com/showthread.php?p=67914
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