Is it safe to update 1.45.161.1 OTA with Clockwork Recovery, Root, S-OFF & SuperCID
is it safe to update the OTA update if you have Clockwork Recovery, Root, S-OFF & SuperCID on sensation
Vodafone UK Sensation
I want to know the same thing. I got the update but when it turned off it showed the Android with exclamation in triangle.
Damn. I'm s -off and rooted.
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you will not be able do update go to dev forums there is a stock rom with 1.45 rooted download and apply
amorek13 said:
you will not be able do update go to dev forums there is a stock rom with 1.45 rooted download and apply
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Hello...im new to android...can you please explain a bit more...when u said go to dev...where exactly i should go...i even have the same issue..
please help
mulkman said:
is it safe to update the OTA update if you have Clockwork Recovery, Root, S-OFF & SuperCID on sensation
Vodafone UK Sensation
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nexicon said:
I want to know the same thing. I got the update but when it turned off it showed the Android with exclamation in triangle.
Damn. I'm s -off and rooted.
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Hi,
If you have s-off rooted phone,why on earth do you want OTA?
A custom ROM should have the OTA function switched off.
It will only mess up your phone by mixing HTC updates with custom ROM updates.
Anything released by HTC will soon be incorporated into custom ROMS.
If you want OTA updates,then s-on and do it.
malybru said:
Hi,
If you have s-off rooted phone,why on earth do you want OTA?
A custom ROM should have the OTA function switched off.
It will only mess up your phone by mixing HTC updates with custom ROM updates.
Anything released by HTC will soon be incorporated into custom ROMS.
If you want OTA updates,then s-on and do it.
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A lot of people dont load a custom rom after s-off. They have most likely run the Revolutionary tool to root then just stick with stock in which case OTA updates will keep prompting.
As previous post says you cannot update OTA if a custom recovery has been flashed. Go to the Sensation Android Development section and search for a pre-rooted version, download, copy to SD card and flash in recovery.
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THIS IS FOR UNBRANDED 401 PHONES ONLY! IT MIGHT WORK FOR OTHERS BUT I WOULD RATHER NOT TRY...
Update 2011/08/14
Added more information and details
Renamed thread into GUIDE
Using this guide will reset your device into a vanilla 2.3.4 HTC Sensation phone. Your SD-Card wont be touched and you will have S-OFF and root. This will lock your bootloader but that should not be a problem since you are still S-OFF and can flash whatever you want - except the bootloader. I tested these steps and i have a 2.3.4 401 Sensation with Locked HBOOT, S-OFF and root.
If you want S-OFF & ROOT on the latest HTC 2.3.4 ROM follow the steps:
1) Backup
2) Get S-OFF on 2.3.3 (Guide Thread)
3) Recover your phone with original 2.3.3 Update
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cc03797/n/RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.35.401.1_Radio_10.43a.900 7.00U_10.51.9007.27_M3_release_198179_signed.exe
4) Update to 2.3.4 via "Over The Air" (OTA) or using OpenRecovery (OR). I did not use the OR-Method but you can find a lot of information about here. I do not advertise any guides for the OR-method since i did not test them myself.
4) Execute step 2.1 to 2.6 from the Sensation Guide (Guide Thread)
5) Get root again: Sensation Guide 3.1 to 3.12 (Guide Thread)
Have fun!
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4) Update to 2.3.4 via ...... using recovery.
Have fun!
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How? Can some please explain step by step?
Thanks
anyone have a change log? google failed me for once in my life
The 2.3.4 update include an new hboot Version 1.18...
Are u sure that u can install cwm and root the phone again after applying the update?
I think u will be s-on again after the hboot get changed...
Everything I'm reading (the two other threads about this update) says the above method will NOT work. I don't think the OP even tried. Wait for a real dev to cook this up.
dacleric said:
THIS IS FOR UNBRANDED 401 PHONES ONLY! IT MIGHT WORK FOR OTHERS BUT I WOULD RATHER NOT TRY...
Using this guide will reset your device into a vanilla 2.3.4 HTC Sensation phone. Your SD-Card wont be touched and you will have S-OFF and root.
If you want S-OFF & ROOT on the latest HTC 2.3.4 ROM follow the steps:
1) Backup
2) Get S-OFF on 2.3.3 (Guide Thread)
3) Recover your phone with original 2.3.3 Update
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cc03797/n/RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.35.401.1_Radio_10.43a.900 7.00U_10.51.9007.27_M3_release_198179_signed.exe
4) Update to 2.3.4 via OTA or using recovery.
4) Execute step 2.1 to 2.6 from the Sensation Guide (Guide Thread)
5) Get root again: Sensation Guide 3.1 to 3.12 (Guide Thread)
Have fun!
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All perfect....but...my HBOOT shows ***LOCKED***..... What`s that?
^^ see the thread in the general section about this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1214707
Around page ten or so.
And this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16585832&postcount=123
A little more:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16582890&postcount=31
eloyloy said:
All perfect....but...my HBOOT shows ***LOCKED***..... What`s that?
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Oh boy Some of use knew this was gonna happen
do not flash this to a stock rooted rom - it will **** it up - wait for your favourite dev to update their rom
flashing this will give you the new locked htc bootloader and you will not be s-off anymore (even though it still says you are)
it's taken me nearly 3 hours to get back to normal
EddyOS said:
When I say I'm S-OFF again, I mean I'm back to my old 2.3.3 ROM before I flashed the new update.
Everyone, DO NOT TRY AND FLASH THIS OVER YOUR ROOTED PHONE - WAIT FOR YOUR ROM TO BE UPDATED BY THE DEVS
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Ledroid will tell us
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Hi all,
I've just done this update
Backup with Titanium
Reflash with 2.3.3 stock ROM (my Sensation was already S-Off)
OTA update to 2.3.4
ClockWork Recovery
Root
Restore with Titanium
Reboot and that's it
No OTA
I did exactly like shown in the first post, but i wont get the update ota. It sais that my phone is actually actual.
Could I have done something wrong?
Got the Sensation from T-mobile -> debrandet it like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193033
And used the RUU version from the first post.
Thanks
done as suggested - works fine for me!
I was off this weekend.
I posted this howto cause i did it with my phone. Whyever would i post a guide when it does not work?!
Using this guide will lock your bootloader but that should not be a problem since you are still S-OFF and can flash whatever you want - except the bootloader.
At least thats the case for me.
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Using this guide will lock your bootloader but that should not be a problem since you are still S-OFF and can flash whatever you want - except the bootloader.
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Are you sure you can't flash the eng hboot too?
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Are you sure you can't flash the eng hboot too?
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no - i did not try to.
I am pretty happy with my phone right now. Fast and long battery pack - replaced Sense with LP.
When testing the early (pre-soff) custom roms and test recoverys I had to flash stock RUUs a couple of times.
To get the phone back into a decent state I needed to pg58 flash eng&unsecured boot then root and fastboot recovery.
Can't for the life of me think why anyone would s-off their phone then install stock/ota for any reason (bar repair). It's like buying a track day race car, shouting "look what I've got" then pushing it around rather than thrashing it.
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Are you sure you can't flash the eng hboot too?
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If you just flash the new hboot, it will say lock at the top of the bootloader screen. But you should be able to flash eng hboot, cause I just tried it.
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d3vilskid said:
If you just flash the new hboot, it will say lock at the top of the bootloader screen. But you should be able to flash eng hboot, cause I just tried it.
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Thanks. That's what I thought. I removed the hboot from the OTA before flashing it so couldn't confirm for myself. There's been a lot of conflicting information about whether phones are still S-OFF after running the unmodified OTA but it appears that they are. I only ran the RUU then OTA so I could have a backup of a stock 1.45 system.img.
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Thanks. That's what I thought. I removed the hboot from the OTA before flashing it so couldn't confirm for myself. There's been a lot of conflicting information about whether phones are still S-OFF after running the unmodified OTA but it appears that they are. I only ran the RUU then OTA so I could have a backup of a stock 1.45 system.img.
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Np, i was trying to figure out how to flash pg2fs_spcustom.img and I found out that the only way to do it was to flash the new hboot first than it would read that pg2fs img.
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First thing's first - I'm definitely not a newb.
My phone (Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA) is depended upon for work and person use. I've been playing with a lot of custom ROMs and each and every one of them has their own little quirks.
Because of this I have seriously considered going back to stock, but I want to be sure that I can receive OTA updates.
I realize that I can get everything back to stock via RUU, HOWEVER, with SuperCID in place, would I still be able to receive OTA updates? I've read that the RUU doesn't replace the SuperCID with the shipped value.
If not, how would I get the SuperCID back to the original value (which unfortunately I don't have - phone was bought used and already rooted) ?
Thanks so much!
You can get the OTA with superCID the RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery. You will need the stock recovery or you could Brock your phone
If you want to be on the safe side and rewrite your cid do the steps you did to get superCID but instead of 11111111 put T-MOB010 That should get you back on track
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Sinistra425 said:
You can get the OTA with superCID the RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery. You will need the stock recovery or you could Brock your phone
If you want to be on the safe side and rewrite your cid do the steps you did to get superCID but instead of 11111111 put T-MOB010 That should get you back on track
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So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
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So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
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Yes it will!
Yes it willow replace the 4EXT with the stock recovery I have recently have taken my sensation 4g back to stock with the ruin and it reinstalls everything from firmware to recovery
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JWhipple said:
So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
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The RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery
Sinistra425 said:
Yes it willow replace the 4EXT with the stock recovery I have recently have taken my sensation 4g back to stock with the ruin and it reinstalls everything from firmware to recovery
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What about the cid??
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No cid will stay the same but that has nothing to do with how your phone runs that just allows you to install the ics custom rom because of the firmware updates needed to run them
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Sinistra425 said:
No cid will stay the same but that has nothing to do with how your phone runs that just allows you to install the ics custom rom because of the firmware updates needed to run them
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I'm thinking if I need to use warranty?
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Can you claim warranty with superCID in placE?
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Can you claim warranty with superCID in placE?
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you could.. but since you can easily rewrite your cid, why worry?
after u flash stock rom
1. Super CID will remain
2. S-off still remain
I can download OTA from server but after download finish it will not install with the error about variant system (means we modified software).
anardjai said:
after u flash stock rom
1. Super CID will remain
2. S-off still remain
I can download OTA from server but after download finish it will not install with the error about variant system (means we modified software).
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Are you sure for this? From what I know IF you install stock ROM from RUU, it will automatically unroot the phone, get back to S-On and of course replace your bootloader with the original one. However to be honest I don't know what happens if you install stock from clockwork recovery - maybe that way the bootloader will not be replaced and you will still have S-Off and root.
TO JWhipple: The Super CID shouldn't matter for RUU. However you could always change it back to your phone/operator version before installing RUU.
@up: not in Sensation. After installing stock with RUU, S-OFF will remain still. To get S-ON back follow this guide. I'm sure, tested on my own Sensation
What would be the right order to go with:
Do you start with changing the SuperCID back to the original one forst or would you first have to go back to S-ON?
SIMPLY TELL ME ONE THING
that can we have official update after installing the latest ruu with s-on and unroot but with super cid?????
thanks
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installing stock ruu doesnt change the phone to s-on or unroot.......but see the guide to do s-on then u might get the official updates
The ruu simply changes your rom to stock unrooted, changes radio, recovery and hboot. It doesn't change stuff like cid and s-off. In theory you can get ota updates with supercid and s-off. The only thing required, would be the stock recovery
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hello how r u ?
seems u got allot exp. in this i try to get back to my stock ruu rom after installing ginger bread arhd and pg53img 3.12 it stops and say error 155 what should i do to get back to stock
dexter93 said:
The ruu simply changes your rom to stock unrooted, changes radio, recovery and hboot. It doesn't change stuff like cid and s-off. In theory you can get ota updates with supercid and s-off. The only thing required, would be the stock recovery
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Quick question, a few guides to going back to stock Sensation point or that you have to downgrade the firmware and radio. Is downgrading the radio (and firmware for that matter) necessary before flashing stock ROM with RUU? I did it with the last sensation before sending it in for warranty replacement, but only because the guide suggested it. But next time I wouldn't do it if I don't have to. Thanks ahead.
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Quick question, a few guides to going back to stock Sensation point or that you have to downgrade the firmware and radio. Is downgrading the radio (and firmware for that matter) necessary before flashing stock ROM with RUU? I did it with the last sensation before sending it in for warranty replacement, but only because the guide suggested it. But next time I wouldn't do it if I don't have to. Thanks ahead.
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No it is not necessary. It will be required only if your device is S-ON and RUU version is older. Just remeber that if your phone is S-OFF and you want to put it S-ON again, do that after you have flashed stock ROM.
I see mixed answers with this but can u still get OTA updates with s-off? S-off only, No root, stock rom etc.
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I see mixed answers with this but can u still get OTA updates with s-off? S-off only, No root, stock rom etc.
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I've asked this too and like you was still a little confused. Hope someone can shed an authoritative light on this.
You will get the OTA updates if you have the stock recovery installed as well as the stock rom.
When I first rooted to debrand from Vodafone to generic UK, I wasn't getting the OTA update for 1.50.401.1 when it was available, and it was because I still had clockworkmod recovery installed.
I flashed the original recovery, and the OTA update suddenly appeared.
I still had S-OFF.
chrisw99 said:
You will get the OTA updates if you have the stock recovery installed as well as the stock rom.
When I first rooted to debrand from Vodafone to generic UK, I wasn't getting the OTA update for 1.50.401.1 when it was available, and it was because I still had clockworkmod recovery installed.
I flashed the original recovery, and the OTA update suddenly appeared.
I still had S-OFF.
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Sorry, I'm a n00b...so S-off is okay but don't root yet?
I think both S-OFF and root are okay as long as you are on stock rom and stock recovery.
Definately S-OFF because I always have been since I debranded and have received 2 OTAs since then. I *think* I've been rooted too, but not 100% sure about that.
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You will get the OTA updates if you have the stock recovery installed as well as the stock rom.
When I first rooted to debrand from Vodafone to generic UK, I wasn't getting the OTA update for 1.50.401.1 when it was available, and it was because I still had clockworkmod recovery installed.
I flashed the original recovery, and the OTA update suddenly appeared.
I still had S-OFF.
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Thanks mate, was quiet confused with the mixed answers
Yes thank you!
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Hi!
If i`m s-off i can`t receive OTA updates ? sorry for question
As far as I'm aware, s-off means absolutely NO OTA. But you can, download the OTA zip and flash using stock recovery.
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I may be wrong but my understanding of S-off just allows you to flash custom software like ROMs and recoveries. I don't think it has anything to do with you being able to recieve OTA updates. What hinders you from receiving OTA updates is the custom software itself. The device only looks for the OTA for the ROM it is running. If you are S-off and have a custom recovery but still have the stock ROM you should still get the OTA. You can also use any recovery custom or stock to flash the OTA if you download the zip file for it.
I'd head some people not getting it S-OFF, going back to S-ON and then getting it but might just be coincidence
Hmm. I thought stock s-off + OTA = bootloop?
Or is that a hangover from my Bravo days...
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So when my girls phone gets the ICS update will i still be able to root it the same using the same method using Revolutionary as i did mine on stock from stock Gingerbread?
Not at present no - it's needs to be updated to work on the 1.27 HBOOT
Best thing is to go back to stock but leave it S-OFF - that way you can then flash CWM after it's updated
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Not at present no - it's needs to be updated to work on the 1.27 HBOOT
Best thing is to go back to stock but leave it S-OFF - that way you can then flash CWM after it's updated
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Thanks, I had her wait to get rooted so we can see what that update is like at least on one of our phones...I already done mine when i first got it I couldnt wait lol
So I wonder what the time frame would be for someone to come up with a root method for the Sensation after the ICS update hits....or for Revolutionary to be upgraded to handle that
Because Im sure she will want me to root if she dont like the OTA update. And Im sure she will hit me with the "i thought you told me you would root it after we check out the update" yup opened my mouth to soon...
I'd S-OFF it now, then flash the stock recovery back onto it so you can get the OTA but still have the option if she doesn't like it
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I'd S-OFF it now, then flash the stock recovery back onto it so you can get the OTA but still have the option if she doesn't like it
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ok so updating the phone after S off wont make it go back S on ?
Nope, it doesn't that
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