[Q] Phone relocked itself out of the blue - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Today i was playing games on my phone like anyother day and in the afternoon my phone relocked itself.( I can't deploy anything now)
I don't know the cause but just a few days ago i updated a few apps and i didn't deploy anything on my phone. I didn't even touch connection setup at all
I own a HTC HD7 7.10.8107, Can someone please give me instructions on how to to unlock it please

Hmm... do you have Zune Pass? My phone re-locked itself (well, returned to stock dev-unlock and lost interop-unlock; I have an AppHub account) when my annual Zune Pass subscription expired and auto-renewed. At least, I assume that was the cause, since I can't think of anything else that could have been responisble for the change during those few few hours.
Restoring a backup should re-unlock the phone, though I can't promise it wouldn't re-lock.

This is not a good sign - GDTD; please read over this thread as well....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542297

i've restored a working backup, but it is still the same
damn u ms.....................

@LiFePo4: Thanks. I'm not sure what more to add to that thread, but it's a concerning event. I'd like to find a common thread to all these unexpected re-locks. In my case, the Zune Pass renewal was very suspiciously timed, but that *could* have been a coincidence.
@blanket: The backup itself would definitely still have been unlocked (it's a ew registry keys, and the registry is completely overwritten and restored by the backed up version). However, it's possible that the phone very quickly re-locked itself again. Perhaps it was triggered by some datestamp or something? Try and remember if there's anything special you had done with the phone, or with the WLID that the phone is associated wtih, exactly one year prior to the relock...
That said, given that my phone has *not* re-locked again since that one time, I would have expected a restored backup to work. Very odd. Possibly the problem is because the backup restores the phone's clock as well, and so suddenly the phone crossed that threshold of "time to re-lock" again?

Oooo, what if you registered as a Dev on AppHub exactly one year ago. Then let's say the phone can not check with the app hub to see if you have still paid your dues so it is designed to Lock again....by removing the links in the registry to prevent relock you have severed that link back to the "mother ship".
So, a 1 year timer says "well, I can't check to see if this guy is still paying his Dev Account dues so I have to Lock until I can".
Possibility? Did those getting relocked sign up for a Dev account about a year ago?

No I don't own a Zune pass or apphub. I unlocked my phone using ansar's method would it be related to him or his account?? a fee days ago I updated a fee apps such as sound enhancer,photobox ask ziggu etc.
I'm going to try backup my phone tonight to see what happens

I don't know anything about ansar's stuff (nor do I want to); sorry.

LiFePo4 said:
Oooo, what if you registered as a Dev on AppHub exactly one year ago. Then let's say the phone can not check with the app hub to see if you have still paid your dues so it is designed to Lock again....by removing the links in the registry to prevent relock you have severed that link back to the "mother ship".
So, a 1 year timer says "well, I can't check to see if this guy is still paying his Dev Account dues so I have to Lock until I can".
Possibility? Did those getting relocked sign up for a Dev account about a year ago?
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that sounds possible, which means many more who used the original chevron method would be meeting with the same fate as me. But what about those who used the chevron unlock + interop unlock and applied the tweaks to prevent the phone from relocking?

blanket said:
that sounds possible, which means many more who used the original chevron method would be meeting with the same fate as me. But what about those who used the chevron unlock + interop unlock and applied the tweaks to prevent the phone from relocking?
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Thats my situation , My HTC HD7 was chervon unlock at prenodo and updated to 8107 then interop unlock. It was working fine for so long then yesterday out of the blue when i opened adobe reader it gave me that dumb revoked by microsoft ****.

I never used the original Chevron (couldn't since my phone came with NoDo). I am not sure what could be happening if that is the method you used (someone else with experience using the original would have to chime in).
I got my phone unlocked using the new Chevron token and then IU'd. There is definitely something freaky going on with these "random" relocks that people get once in a great while and there doesn't seem to be a pattern (yet).
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P.S. This doesn't seem to happen that often so I don't think MS has put some system in place to purposely go after IU devices. It just seems to be a sequence of events that differ for each user, but also each user seems to be unlocked from a different method so who knows

thekiller99 said:
Thats my situation , My HTC HD7 was chervon unlock at prenodo and updated to 8107 then interop unlock. It was working fine for so long then yesterday out of the blue when i opened adobe reader it gave me that dumb revoked by microsoft ****.
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I came from the original chevron unlock too
I'm going to restore without an internet connection tonight, see if it works
Frustrating

A similar thing happened with me recently. I found the culprit of the problem was that MS uses a "lease" of sorts when registering phones to be unlocked for development. You have to unregister your device, and then, re-register it again. Also make sure you're using the latest Windows Phone SDK from create.msdn.com to register it, otherwise it might not be recognized appropriately.

@thekiller99 and @blanket - looks like a common situation then having to do with Chevron per-nodo unlock. Hopefully someone with more insight into what that method originally did and has now exposed to MS can chime.
Wish I could help but this all predates me; I didn't get a WP7 until Verizon finally came out with the Trophy and it came with NoDo so I had went the Dev account originally until Chevron sold tokens, then I bought one and canceled my Dev account. I also unregistered my phone before I canceled it so hopefully any "leases" were removed; guess I'll find out in July when my one year anniversary comes...

LiFePo4 said:
@thekiller99 and @blanket - looks like a common situation then having to do with Chevron per-nodo unlock. Hopefully someone with more insight into what that method originally did and has now exposed to MS can chime.
Wish I could help but this all predates me; I didn't get a WP7 until Verizon finally came out with the Trophy and it came with NoDo so I had went the Dev account originally until Chevron sold tokens, then I bought one and canceled my Dev account. I also unregistered my phone before I canceled it so hopefully any "leases" were removed; guess I'll find out in July when my one year anniversary comes...
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chevron ran out of tokens when I finally got my credit card activated
Don't mind paying for it, but.....its not even sold anymore!
I could have jumped to ios (no android please...) but still decided to keep faith with ms and this is what I get
Oh man...

What can i do now? I don't have any previous backups since i reformatted my laptop not so long ago? Do i have to go full unlock(deepshining DFT)? I don't really like flashing some random rom on my phone as i want to keep it as original as it can.

thekiller99 said:
What can i do now? I don't have any previous backups since i reformatted my laptop not so long ago? Do i have to go full unlock(deepshining DFT)? I don't really like flashing some random rom on my phone as i want to keep it as original as it can.
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Here is a good summary of options depending on your phone;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538801

Is it possible to downgrade it? and use ansar's method to upgrade it back to 8107? I don't like Custom roms because they aren't really safe and im not a tech guy that can easily follow instructions.

It's possible, yes. However, it's somewhat difficult to get the original ChevronWP7 Unlocker working now; its certificate has expired, and you'll have to downgrade your phone to pre-NoDo, then preserve the unlock through each subsequent update (including upgrading to Mango, which will re-lock the phone). I suggest deploying Heathcliff74's HTC Interop Unlock app before upgrading to Mango, as you'll then be able to use Connection Setup to get both dev- and interop-unlock easily.
Alternatively, you could of course get an AppHub account, or pester Microsoft for more ChevronWP7 Labs unlock tokens. The first costs money (unless you're a student), and the second would take a while and has no guarantee of success, though.

GoodDayToDie said:
It's possible, yes. However, it's somewhat difficult to get the original ChevronWP7 Unlocker working now; its certificate has expired, and you'll have to downgrade your phone to pre-NoDo, then preserve the unlock through each subsequent update (including upgrading to Mango, which will re-lock the phone). I suggest deploying Heathcliff74's HTC Interop Unlock app before upgrading to Mango, as you'll then be able to use Connection Setup to get both dev- and interop-unlock easily.
Alternatively, you could of course get an AppHub account, or pester Microsoft for more ChevronWP7 Labs unlock tokens. The first costs money (unless you're a student), and the second would take a while and has no guarantee of success, though.
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But for heathcliff74's htc interop unlock app to work i have to downgrade my phone?(currently in 8107) How would i do that? I don't' have any backups saved anymore that dates back to prenodo. If i have to flash some random rom to my phone im going to run into trouble since im not very good at this kind of thing.

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[Q] NoDo and 'Jailbroken' WP7

Knowing that the ChevronWP7 team has now been working with Microsoft to secure the exploit they were using, and that the NoDo update coming out on Monday will relock the phone and patch said exploit, what will happen next?
Obviously some of the fine people in these forums will take a crack at it, so I suppose my question would be this: Knowing what you guys know about developing and hacking the Windows Phone, how long would it take between the release of the update and until it i cracked again?
Will it be similar to the timespan between iOS release and jailbreaks, or of Android releases and rooting? What steps do you developers and hackers anticipate you will have to take in order to developer unlock our first major OS update?
I'm just really curious, and having just gotten a Samsung Focus on Monday, I wanted to make sure whether or not it was worth updating as soon as the update was relased. What do you think?
Well, on LG phones, you have a registry editor which allows you to unlock the phone (for sideloading) without the Chevron exploit (and no need for a certificate). I wonder if the update will kill even the registry keys (or change them to something more obscure).
Assume those do not change, then a new exploit would need to access the registry of a locked phone somehow, and I am sure people here will come up with a new certificate.
Other WP7
What about other phones? HTC HD7 or Samsung Focus? The Focus makes up a very large part of WP7 users.
it will come the phone is only 5 months old there has to be some bright spark out there that can unlock the phone after the updates or microsoft will allow HomeBrew applications to be loaded?
I just flashed from 7004 to PreNoDo 7008 on my HD7 and my unlocked apps are still working... I'm hoping that happens when I get my NoDo update... though unlikely. Then I could just use the sideloaded registry editor to re-unlock it. Here's to hoping!
I have installed NoDo on my US AT&T Samsung Focus and it is still Chevron unlocked.
My Omnia 7 has Nodo and homebrew software is still working.
rmcgraw said:
I have installed NoDo on my US AT&T Samsung Focus and it is still Chevron unlocked.
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I installed NoDo on my Focus and now its locked. How did you unlock it in the first place? I installed the certificate, ran Chevron tool, and checked both boxes. Now after NoDo install locked again.

Trying to get 7392 on my phone.

In a bit of a mess right now and can't figure out whats going on.
I bought a Samsung Focus and unlocked it and updated it to NoDo before its release using the timing trick.
BUT I reformatted it afterwords and it locked back up and I ALSO got the notification from Microsoft that I could update to NoDo when it was officially released for the Focus (though I already had NoDo). I connected it to Zune and got the official release and everything has great.
Now, my understanding was that after having done all this, my phone was back to normal and eligible to get official updates.
But I have yet to get a notification for 7392? When I connect it to Zune, it says my phone phone is already up to date with 7390.
SO, in conclusion, I would like to do either of the following 2 things:
1. Be able to get 7392, the latest release
OR
2. Roll my phone back to pre-NoDo and dev unlock it again and wait for some other work-around to surface. (I can't restore my phone using Zune because the computer I used has been since reformatted. Had I known, I would not have done that. Doh!)
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
ATT hasn't released it yet. You either wait till they do, or unbrand your phone to 000-88. If you're on a focus, on nodo, not unlocked, and don't have a pre-nodo backup to revert to, you'll be waiting for ATT to release it.
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ATT hasn't released it yet. You either wait till they do, or unbrand your phone to 000-88. If you're on a focus, on nodo, not unlocked, and don't have a pre-nodo backup to revert to, you'll be waiting for ATT to release it.
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Thank you munkey. I was confused because I saw some Focus owners got it already. Also, since my phone has NoDo, is locked and no backup, I can't rebrand? Thats not good. Also, is there any other way for me to roll back? Thanks
The only current option for rolling back a focus is the Zune backup. I've seen some talk of using someone else's backup, but have not read any success. Also, I know there are people working on a nodo unlocker, but nothing has come from that yet either. I have also read about some ROM's for the focus, but again, there is no confirmed success there. You can pay for a legit dev account through Microsoft, or attempt to get a free student dev account. Both of these will unlock ur phone, but TBH, it's not really worth the effort just to get 7392. Now, for sideloading and access to reg edits, it may be worth it
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Thanks for the help, I appreciate it.
I did manage to get it unlocked by signing up for a developer account as a student. A very long and tedious process, but I'm glad I did it. The main reason I did it is so I can sideload apps, get custom ringtones, and just tinker around with my phone.
Still no idea how to get 7392 though.
Install the SAMSUNGRegistry Xap, found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=910911
to edit this registry path:
HKLM\System\Platform\DeviceTargetingInfo\MobileOperator
enter the "value" 000-88
select "STRING" not "DWORD"
press "Write"
connect to Zune, and it should prompt you with the update
if you want, you can return to the ATT branding by repeating the process, but writing ATT-US
EDIT:there is no space in "MobileOperator" the forum does that for some reason
Right now I'm 7390 but I just received a new update message what will the new update change?
htctp2-89 said:
Right now I'm 7390 but I just received a new update message what will the new update change?
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Google 7392...
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Feeling like a noob over here my bad..:-D
WOW, munkey, thanks for the help, I appreciate it.. I'm going to try it out right now
htctp2-89 said:
Right now I'm 7390 but I just received a new update message what will the new update change?
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http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/basics/update-history.aspx
Worked like a charm! Thanks!
Sure
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htctp2-89 said:
Feeling like a noob over here my bad..:-D
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I wasn't trying to be dismissive or rude. I didn't have a confident and complete answer myself, so I googled it to get your answer, but there were so many links with lots of info, and I was on my phone, I figured it was easier/better if you read through them yourself.
I'm glad cookie found a suitable link for you.
Oh, and btw, it's a cumulative update, so if you don't have nodo, it will install that too. Worth a mention in case someone is holding off on nodo for whatever reason.
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7392
First of all, I apologize for bumping an old thread up. This is my first post here, and I think I might be in a bit of a pinch.
I updated to NoDo using the Hungarian VPN method when it was first published. Unfortunately for me I also carrier unbranded the registry of my device and neglected to apply the "prevent re-lock" tool before updating, rolling back and updating again once the official release became available. My phone hasn't since displayed any update prompts and Zune shows it to be up-to-date (7390). If I connect to Marketplace via WiFi only my carrier's exclusive apps do not display. This leads me to believe that carrier branding is somehow instrumental in acquiring updates.
Is my device now in a permanent state of flux? Exactly how does Windows Phone authenticate to the update server via Zune? I am asking only because I don't want to roll back to the last available backup image to get the most recent update. I first had to do this to obtain the official NoDo release and lost a bunch of apps and settings in the process. What can I do?

is this phone still unlockable?

I'm having a hell of a time trying to unlock this phone. chevron says every time cannot connect to phone. I've followed the instructions word for word and no matter what i do it never connects to the phone.
I'm at a loss. The tile colors are driving me nuts and am dying to be able to change them. Any advice what i might be missing? phone is in airplane mode, zune is running etc. No dice.
The tile colours? You can change them in Settings > Themes, they pick up the Accent Colour
yeah, I want custom colors, the stock ones kinda suck.
if your Phone have NoDo software, you forget free unlock with ChevronWP7
WP7 can unlock only if have software before NoDo upgrade
for $99 you can buy developer unlock from Microsoft
P.S.
soon be available cheap official unlock provided by ChevronWP7 and Microsoft for only $9 http://labs.chevronwp7.com/
dxdy said:
if your Phone have NoDo software, you forget free unlock with ChevronWP7
WP7 can unlock only if have software before NoDo upgrade
for $99 you can buy developer unlock from Microsoft
P.S.
soon be available cheap official unlock provided by ChevronWP7 and Microsoft for only $9 http://labs.chevronwp7.com/
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Thanks, i guess i'll wait then. Just got the phone a couple days ago so i'm assuming it's the latest software. Hard to wade through all the info to figure out what's going on. Appreciate the answer.
Can't believe they didn't have custom color options though. I know it's minor but still annoying. Otherwise i'm loving WP7 more than my android by quite alot.

[Q] HTC 7 Trophy Jailbreak?

I have been searching for the longest time trying to find out if there is a downgrade so i can use chevron on my HTC trophy or if there is just a jailbreak for it. its WP& 7.0.7389 phone model is HTC mwp6985. i just moved down from iphone and i want to jailbreak this phone if possible
Okay as i looked i think its a HTC Trophy Spark_w i got it from verizon its this one please help me unlock my phone i really need help here is the phone i have exactly http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...etail&selectedPhoneId=5635&deviceCategoryId=1
sorry im really new to this just trying to get awnsers on how i can unlock it im really into making hombrew apps and what not and i want to unlock it to i can start making some for it i dont really wanna do it all in the emulator
10th post yay......
You have the Verizon HTC Trophy (same phone as I do), There is no way to get back to Pre-NoDo on the Verizon model because NoDo was needed to support CDMA. If you could, your phone would not work. So you know chevron does not work on CDMA phones (Verizon HTC Trophy or Sprint HTC Arrive)
Your only option to get "unlocked" is to go the Dev unlocked methoid, set up an account on the App hub/dreamspark (google it) and if you have a .edu account, it could be free or it's a $99 reg charge. Do some reading on here, there is a lot of people posting about this being Dev unlocked.
There is ways around to find a edu email account but, you'll have to google it, I don't know the link off the top of my head.
Unless something "new" popped up in a last few days, this is the only methoid I know.
thanks and now that i remeber i have gotten that already i got a 1 year one for the app hub thing cause of student doing exactly what you said thanks for the reply but when i do it says it was imcomplete...
okay now i just got it but when my membership runs out in 3/2012 what happens will it relock and is there a way to stop it from locking back
JohnstonOctober said:
okay now i just got it but when my membership runs out in 3/2012 what happens will it relock and is there a way to stop it from locking back
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Did you submit an test app ? If you have to nuke, or hardreset your phone, it will be locked again, so you should keep the account active.
JohnstonOctober said:
okay now i just got it but when my membership runs out in 3/2012 what happens will it relock and is there a way to stop it from locking back
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did you find a way to downgrade and unlock it?
Let me know if you did.
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did you find a way to downgrade and unlock it?
Let me know if you did.
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why? i :D:D:D:D:D:DYou have a point.
10th post.. Sorry.!

Samsung Focus S/2nd Gen ROMs etc...

To make a long story short I once had the HD7 which had many custom roms, then went back to android and now once again coming back to WP7 with the Focus S. Something about the fluidness of WP7 that brought me back .
Anyway I dont see anything on XDA or the interwebs in regards to custom roms and or theming this phone. Is there a good please to read up on what can be done with the Focus S from a customization perspective? I see you can interop unlock but no access to registery edit to actually make it worth while.
What is possible with this phone today?
Sorry if this should have been posted in general.
Thanks!
ej_424 said:
To make a long story short I once had the HD7 which had many custom roms, then went back to android and now once again coming back to WP7 with the Focus S. Something about the fluidness of WP7 that brought me back .
Anyway I dont see anything on XDA or the interwebs in regards to custom roms and or theming this phone. Is there a good please to read up on what can be done with the Focus S from a customization perspective? I see you can interop unlock but no access to registery edit to actually make it worth while.
What is possible with this phone today?
Sorry if this should have been posted in general.
Thanks!
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I'm 99% sure Root Tools gives the Focus S registry access plus alot of other good things that you used to only be able to do with a custom ROM (it might depend on firmware version) as for custom ROM's though you are out of luck.
Currently, there are no bootloader unlocked for gen2 devices (except for the Lumia 710 and some Lumia 800s) so no custom ROMs. WindowBreak works on the gen2 Samsung phones, but only if their firmware version isn't too new. Successfully applying WindowBreak will dev- and interop-unlock your phone. At that point, you can install WP7 Root Tools v0.9. Root Tools not only includes a registry and filesystem browser, it can also elevate other apps so they run as "root" with full permissions. You can use this with things like XapHandler, Bazaar, and a large number of tweak apps.
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Currently, there are no bootloader unlocked for gen2 devices (except for the Lumia 710 and some Lumia 800s) so no custom ROMs. WindowBreak works on the gen2 Samsung phones, but only if their firmware version isn't too new. Successfully applying WindowBreak will dev- and interop-unlock your phone. At that point, you can install WP7 Root Tools v0.9. Root Tools not only includes a registry and filesystem browser, it can also elevate other apps so they run as "root" with full permissions. You can use this with things like XapHandler, Bazaar, and a large number of tweak apps.
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So, what you're saying is that by using WindowBreak, I can dev- and interop-unlock my Focus S without using my ChevronWP7 token, which I purchased but will no longer be available to me shortly (if it isn't already)?
Dennis
The ChevronWP7 Labs token will also work (for the next few months, at least), but it's dev-unlock only. You can also get a full AppHub account for free since you bought a Labs token.
WindowBreak uses the same hack as the Interop Unlock app for Samsung, but it doesn't require a dev-unlock first.
GoodDayToDie said:
The ChevronWP7 Labs token will also work (for the next few months, at least), but it's dev-unlock only. You can also get a full AppHub account for free since you bought a Labs token.
WindowBreak uses the same hack as the Interop Unlock app for Samsung, but it doesn't require a dev-unlock first.
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O.K., thanks! I have another question that I don't know if you'd know the answer to or not - is the ChevronWP7 token device specific? What I'm asking is, I purchased a token to unlock my Focus S, but I think there's something wrong with the USB connector on the phone (USB cable feels as if it's loose when plugged into the phone, and charging keeps getting interrupted if the phone or cable is bumped), and I'm wondering if my token will work on a DIFFERENT Samsung Focus S, should AT&T replace it for me.
Do you know if my token will unlock a replacement Focus S, or is it tied to my specific device ID?
By the way, I interop-unlocked my Focus S, too, after ChevronWP7 unlocking it.
Thanks,
Dennis
It's tied to your Live ID. I think you may need to use the same Live ID on the phone, but I'm not sure about that. I do suggest de-authorizing the current phone first if you send it in for repair.
That said, the most common cause of the USB problem you describe is just some lint or other junk in the microUSB port. Turn off the phone and remove the battery, then try using a pin or very skinny paperclip or something to see if you can extract anything that might be preventing the plug from locking in fully.
dmw_4814 said:
O.K., thanks! I have another question that I don't know if you'd know the answer to or not - is the ChevronWP7 token device specific? What I'm asking is, I purchased a token to unlock my Focus S, but I think there's something wrong with the USB connector on the phone (USB cable feels as if it's loose when plugged into the phone, and charging keeps getting interrupted if the phone or cable is bumped), and I'm wondering if my token will work on a DIFFERENT Samsung Focus S, should AT&T replace it for me.
Do you know if my token will unlock a replacement Focus S, or is it tied to my specific device ID?
By the way, I interop-unlocked my Focus S, too, after ChevronWP7 unlocking it.
Thanks,
Dennis
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Replace your microUSB cable.. I had the same problem.
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