Knowing that the ChevronWP7 team has now been working with Microsoft to secure the exploit they were using, and that the NoDo update coming out on Monday will relock the phone and patch said exploit, what will happen next?
Obviously some of the fine people in these forums will take a crack at it, so I suppose my question would be this: Knowing what you guys know about developing and hacking the Windows Phone, how long would it take between the release of the update and until it i cracked again?
Will it be similar to the timespan between iOS release and jailbreaks, or of Android releases and rooting? What steps do you developers and hackers anticipate you will have to take in order to developer unlock our first major OS update?
I'm just really curious, and having just gotten a Samsung Focus on Monday, I wanted to make sure whether or not it was worth updating as soon as the update was relased. What do you think?
Well, on LG phones, you have a registry editor which allows you to unlock the phone (for sideloading) without the Chevron exploit (and no need for a certificate). I wonder if the update will kill even the registry keys (or change them to something more obscure).
Assume those do not change, then a new exploit would need to access the registry of a locked phone somehow, and I am sure people here will come up with a new certificate.
Other WP7
What about other phones? HTC HD7 or Samsung Focus? The Focus makes up a very large part of WP7 users.
it will come the phone is only 5 months old there has to be some bright spark out there that can unlock the phone after the updates or microsoft will allow HomeBrew applications to be loaded?
I just flashed from 7004 to PreNoDo 7008 on my HD7 and my unlocked apps are still working... I'm hoping that happens when I get my NoDo update... though unlikely. Then I could just use the sideloaded registry editor to re-unlock it. Here's to hoping!
I have installed NoDo on my US AT&T Samsung Focus and it is still Chevron unlocked.
My Omnia 7 has Nodo and homebrew software is still working.
rmcgraw said:
I have installed NoDo on my US AT&T Samsung Focus and it is still Chevron unlocked.
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I installed NoDo on my Focus and now its locked. How did you unlock it in the first place? I installed the certificate, ran Chevron tool, and checked both boxes. Now after NoDo install locked again.
Hello,
I just have my phone unlocked after ordering an unlock code from Chevron Labs, it works after some seconds, my phone is unlocked. But after that I notice there's something called Inter-Op Lock and this lock state doesn't allow me to side-load apps that need higher privileges. I feels a bit disappointed. Now, I wonder is there's any way to inter-op unlock ? or I need to do revert my phone to Nodo and messing with their old tool ?
Thanks for reading..
Interop unlock is required for higher privileges. No way to do that ATM.
nguyenhoangvk said:
Hello,
I just have my phone unlocked after ordering an unlock code from Chevron Labs, it works after some seconds, my phone is unlocked. But after that I notice there's something called Inter-Op Lock and this lock state doesn't allow me to side-load apps that need higher privileges. I feels a bit disappointed. Now, I wonder is there's any way to inter-op unlock ? or I need to do revert my phone to Nodo and messing with their old tool ?
Thanks for reading..
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With samsung phones it's very easy. You only need to deploy the provxml for interop unlock and using diagnose app run this xml. That's all.
If you do a little effort searching you can found it without problems.
OP, what phone do you have? There's currently easy interop-unlock for LG and Samsung phones. HTC is technically possible but currently difficult and requires rolling back to pre-Mango first (we're working on it!). Nokia and Toshiba/Fujitsu are not currently available (working on them too...)
Thanks for answers yeah i wa wondering that i can interop unlock directly after unlockd using chevron token. Revert to nodo is ok to go, thanks
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Today i was playing games on my phone like anyother day and in the afternoon my phone relocked itself.( I can't deploy anything now)
I don't know the cause but just a few days ago i updated a few apps and i didn't deploy anything on my phone. I didn't even touch connection setup at all
I own a HTC HD7 7.10.8107, Can someone please give me instructions on how to to unlock it please
Hmm... do you have Zune Pass? My phone re-locked itself (well, returned to stock dev-unlock and lost interop-unlock; I have an AppHub account) when my annual Zune Pass subscription expired and auto-renewed. At least, I assume that was the cause, since I can't think of anything else that could have been responisble for the change during those few few hours.
Restoring a backup should re-unlock the phone, though I can't promise it wouldn't re-lock.
This is not a good sign - GDTD; please read over this thread as well....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542297
i've restored a working backup, but it is still the same
damn u ms.....................
@LiFePo4: Thanks. I'm not sure what more to add to that thread, but it's a concerning event. I'd like to find a common thread to all these unexpected re-locks. In my case, the Zune Pass renewal was very suspiciously timed, but that *could* have been a coincidence.
@blanket: The backup itself would definitely still have been unlocked (it's a ew registry keys, and the registry is completely overwritten and restored by the backed up version). However, it's possible that the phone very quickly re-locked itself again. Perhaps it was triggered by some datestamp or something? Try and remember if there's anything special you had done with the phone, or with the WLID that the phone is associated wtih, exactly one year prior to the relock...
That said, given that my phone has *not* re-locked again since that one time, I would have expected a restored backup to work. Very odd. Possibly the problem is because the backup restores the phone's clock as well, and so suddenly the phone crossed that threshold of "time to re-lock" again?
Oooo, what if you registered as a Dev on AppHub exactly one year ago. Then let's say the phone can not check with the app hub to see if you have still paid your dues so it is designed to Lock again....by removing the links in the registry to prevent relock you have severed that link back to the "mother ship".
So, a 1 year timer says "well, I can't check to see if this guy is still paying his Dev Account dues so I have to Lock until I can".
Possibility? Did those getting relocked sign up for a Dev account about a year ago?
No I don't own a Zune pass or apphub. I unlocked my phone using ansar's method would it be related to him or his account?? a fee days ago I updated a fee apps such as sound enhancer,photobox ask ziggu etc.
I'm going to try backup my phone tonight to see what happens
I don't know anything about ansar's stuff (nor do I want to); sorry.
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Oooo, what if you registered as a Dev on AppHub exactly one year ago. Then let's say the phone can not check with the app hub to see if you have still paid your dues so it is designed to Lock again....by removing the links in the registry to prevent relock you have severed that link back to the "mother ship".
So, a 1 year timer says "well, I can't check to see if this guy is still paying his Dev Account dues so I have to Lock until I can".
Possibility? Did those getting relocked sign up for a Dev account about a year ago?
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that sounds possible, which means many more who used the original chevron method would be meeting with the same fate as me. But what about those who used the chevron unlock + interop unlock and applied the tweaks to prevent the phone from relocking?
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that sounds possible, which means many more who used the original chevron method would be meeting with the same fate as me. But what about those who used the chevron unlock + interop unlock and applied the tweaks to prevent the phone from relocking?
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Thats my situation , My HTC HD7 was chervon unlock at prenodo and updated to 8107 then interop unlock. It was working fine for so long then yesterday out of the blue when i opened adobe reader it gave me that dumb revoked by microsoft ****.
I never used the original Chevron (couldn't since my phone came with NoDo). I am not sure what could be happening if that is the method you used (someone else with experience using the original would have to chime in).
I got my phone unlocked using the new Chevron token and then IU'd. There is definitely something freaky going on with these "random" relocks that people get once in a great while and there doesn't seem to be a pattern (yet).
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P.S. This doesn't seem to happen that often so I don't think MS has put some system in place to purposely go after IU devices. It just seems to be a sequence of events that differ for each user, but also each user seems to be unlocked from a different method so who knows
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Thats my situation , My HTC HD7 was chervon unlock at prenodo and updated to 8107 then interop unlock. It was working fine for so long then yesterday out of the blue when i opened adobe reader it gave me that dumb revoked by microsoft ****.
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I came from the original chevron unlock too
I'm going to restore without an internet connection tonight, see if it works
Frustrating
A similar thing happened with me recently. I found the culprit of the problem was that MS uses a "lease" of sorts when registering phones to be unlocked for development. You have to unregister your device, and then, re-register it again. Also make sure you're using the latest Windows Phone SDK from create.msdn.com to register it, otherwise it might not be recognized appropriately.
@thekiller99 and @blanket - looks like a common situation then having to do with Chevron per-nodo unlock. Hopefully someone with more insight into what that method originally did and has now exposed to MS can chime.
Wish I could help but this all predates me; I didn't get a WP7 until Verizon finally came out with the Trophy and it came with NoDo so I had went the Dev account originally until Chevron sold tokens, then I bought one and canceled my Dev account. I also unregistered my phone before I canceled it so hopefully any "leases" were removed; guess I'll find out in July when my one year anniversary comes...
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@thekiller99 and @blanket - looks like a common situation then having to do with Chevron per-nodo unlock. Hopefully someone with more insight into what that method originally did and has now exposed to MS can chime.
Wish I could help but this all predates me; I didn't get a WP7 until Verizon finally came out with the Trophy and it came with NoDo so I had went the Dev account originally until Chevron sold tokens, then I bought one and canceled my Dev account. I also unregistered my phone before I canceled it so hopefully any "leases" were removed; guess I'll find out in July when my one year anniversary comes...
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chevron ran out of tokens when I finally got my credit card activated
Don't mind paying for it, but.....its not even sold anymore!
I could have jumped to ios (no android please...) but still decided to keep faith with ms and this is what I get
Oh man...
What can i do now? I don't have any previous backups since i reformatted my laptop not so long ago? Do i have to go full unlock(deepshining DFT)? I don't really like flashing some random rom on my phone as i want to keep it as original as it can.
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What can i do now? I don't have any previous backups since i reformatted my laptop not so long ago? Do i have to go full unlock(deepshining DFT)? I don't really like flashing some random rom on my phone as i want to keep it as original as it can.
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Here is a good summary of options depending on your phone;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538801
Is it possible to downgrade it? and use ansar's method to upgrade it back to 8107? I don't like Custom roms because they aren't really safe and im not a tech guy that can easily follow instructions.
It's possible, yes. However, it's somewhat difficult to get the original ChevronWP7 Unlocker working now; its certificate has expired, and you'll have to downgrade your phone to pre-NoDo, then preserve the unlock through each subsequent update (including upgrading to Mango, which will re-lock the phone). I suggest deploying Heathcliff74's HTC Interop Unlock app before upgrading to Mango, as you'll then be able to use Connection Setup to get both dev- and interop-unlock easily.
Alternatively, you could of course get an AppHub account, or pester Microsoft for more ChevronWP7 Labs unlock tokens. The first costs money (unless you're a student), and the second would take a while and has no guarantee of success, though.
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It's possible, yes. However, it's somewhat difficult to get the original ChevronWP7 Unlocker working now; its certificate has expired, and you'll have to downgrade your phone to pre-NoDo, then preserve the unlock through each subsequent update (including upgrading to Mango, which will re-lock the phone). I suggest deploying Heathcliff74's HTC Interop Unlock app before upgrading to Mango, as you'll then be able to use Connection Setup to get both dev- and interop-unlock easily.
Alternatively, you could of course get an AppHub account, or pester Microsoft for more ChevronWP7 Labs unlock tokens. The first costs money (unless you're a student), and the second would take a while and has no guarantee of success, though.
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But for heathcliff74's htc interop unlock app to work i have to downgrade my phone?(currently in 8107) How would i do that? I don't' have any backups saved anymore that dates back to prenodo. If i have to flash some random rom to my phone im going to run into trouble since im not very good at this kind of thing.
AT&T Samsung SGH-i667 Focus 2 ..... has *anybody* Developer Un-Locked this phone ?
Hi all !
I have hit the wall - so am a bit at my wits end
With the goodwill of the mod's ........ here goes:-
=> has anybody, or does anyone know of anyone who has Developer Un-Locked their AT&T Samsung SGH-i667 Focus 2 ?
if yes
=> can you please post how you did it ?
Thanks,
Ben
That depends, what firmware version do you have? Did you install any Samsung updates via Zune?
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Developer unlock is easy; you just have to use the official unlock tool. However, that's not going to get you what you're asking for. It would only let you sideload low-privilege apps. Also, tons of people used WindowBreak and the Internet Sharing unlock hack back when they worked. That was "fixed" (breaking the hack we were using) almost a year ago, now, though.
Please don't go making threads like this. Your questions have been quite thoroughly answered on other threads. Your device firmware is too new to use WindowBreak or other similar hacks. This means you can use the hacks to enable Internet Sharing (or to interop-unlock). Nobody has found a way to flash the gen2 Samsung phones yet, so you can neither downgrde your firmware nor install a custom ROM. AT&T charges money for WiFi tethering, so the phone disables the feature until AT&T tells them it's OK.
So I just got a Zenphone6 and I'm following this guide to install LineageOS
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/I01WD/install
but got hold up at the "Unlocking the bootloader" step, because while running the app on the device it wanted me to agree to a number of terms and also connect to Asus to report my IMEI and possible other info. As I hadn't setup any network connection the app wouldn't proceed.
This disturbed me quite a bit, I've just parted with a fair amount of hard earned cash to buy a piece of hardware and it turned out I couldn't take full control of it.
So my question is, is there any way to sidestep the official unlocking tool?
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So I just got a Zenphone6 and I'm following this guide to install LineageOS
but got hold up at the "Unlocking the bootloader" step, because while running the app on the device it wanted me to agree to a number of terms and also connect to Asus to report my IMEI and possible other info. As I hadn't setup any network connection the app wouldn't proceed.
This disturbed me quite a bit, I've just parted with a fair amount of hard earned cash to buy a piece of hardware and it turned out I couldn't take full control of it.
So my question is, is there any way to sidestep the official unlocking tool?
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I want to join this question, I really disappointed by such ASUS's policy. Too bad I can't give the phone back. If I wanted this kind of policy, I'd buy half priced Xiaomi.
By the way, have you tried 'fastboot oem unlock' command after allowing unlocking in Developer Options?
I don't see "Allow OEM Unlock" anywhere in Developer Settings.
Also interested in this. I figured since Asus is supporting devs, they would make unlocking as easy as Google/Oneplus does with their phones. Guess not.
Anyone tried this "unofficial" method?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80113454&postcount=51
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Also interested in this. I figured since Asus is supporting devs, they would make unlocking as easy as Google/Oneplus does with their phones. Guess not.
Anyone tried this "unofficial" method?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80113454&postcount=51
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I took a plunge and got the phone, and this method doesn't work. Only the official one does, which as OP says will require an internet connect and probably does transmit the IMEI number and so on.
However, it doesn't require you to connect to a Google account as mentioned in the official Lineage instructions. So I guess that's a partial consolation.
Still, since Asus is in touch with the devs here, it would be great if someone can put forth a suggestion to drop this "phone-home" requirement. It's the only way they can compete with the more dev-friendly Oneplus.
I wish that there was a way. I really want to unlock the bootloader but I'm on the 10 beta and the official unlock tool does not work because of this. There doesn't appear to be a way to roll back to P either unfortunately so I'm stuck for now I guess