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i need advice from you guys

hi all
thanx for all the guys who help me to install hero rom
but now im boring and i wish that i didn't install this rom because it's very slow and a lot of lag and restating.
can any one advice me if it's good to stay at the same rom until the update is coming or should i go back for the original rom .
than x

well if you have a 32B Board then i understand when you say it is laggy and slow as i had it on my G1. In this case i would recommend you to install the 32B port of the cyanogen Rom which is very fast and stable.
Now if you have a 32A board then your probably doing something wrong as you you should not experience any slow downs..

He's got the 32B version.
You can also turn off TouchFlo, this will speed your phone up quite a bit. But you also loose access to the HTC widgets until you turn it back on.
Clinton

minogue: I've a 32A, and did not experience any slowdowns only initially. Once you start loading more apps and whatnots it does slowdown, although acceptable. When I flashed back to my stock rooted ROM, I realized Hero is quite slow after all .

Wysie said:
minogue: I've a 32A, and did not experience any slowdowns only initially. Once you start loading more apps and whatnots it does slowdown, although acceptable. When I flashed back to my stock rooted ROM, I realized Hero is quite slow after all .
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Try loading up your stock ROM with as many widgets and background process as the Hero and you'll see the Sense UI is actually pretty fast ans smooth. I really don't see a slow down at all, the only time it hesitates a bit is the first wakeup in the morning. I'm guessing it has to reopen all the process etc.. that are stored in the RAM.
Clinton

ClintonH: I've tried that before . Anyway, according to reviews at Gizmodo and BGR, the actual Hero feels sluggish as well. Thanks for the tip anyway!
On-topic, I'm currently using RAv1.1.0 and liking it very much. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538645

Gizmodo is not to be trusted there sites basicaly just a news funnel.(much like engadget) read from more crediable(i know i spelled it wroung) sites like cnet are better (theres more)
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/0,39030106,49303060,00.htm
but just to note some sites say its slow some say fast so there's a theroy that some might have issues.
also to put this is prospective how many wigets(which are apps) are you running at once? the Iphone can only run one at once and i can tell you its not becuase apple just dosent want you run more than one.

I had same thoughts on the hero roms, cyanogenmod is extremely fast and i have always ended up going back after trying the hero roms

I also suggest Cyanogen's. I am running a 32A version of 3.9.3 and its great.

But how do you turn off Sense?

How smooth do the custom Hero Roms run on a T-Mobile branded MT3G?

With the T-Mobile branded version of the Magic only having 192 MB of Ram compared to the HTC version having 288 MB, how smooth does the Hero Roms run on it? anyone with Rooted MT3G's please give us your two cents? Please tell me it DOES NOT run like it does on the T-Mobile G1.

still investigating. I am a noob to Android (been on WM so far) and i have tried a couple of them - and they load fine and they seem responsive, and the display is crisp and then once the screen times out, when I return - the display is very blurry or pixelated - I think its because i am not setting the compcache or linux-swap correctly. Have been reading up as much as I can and am still trying it out. but even though it is blurry, it is responsive (i am using JACxHero 1.2) and it looks great. Hero does have a lot of functions I want, but if I can't get this swap\cache\display issue sorted, I may go back to cyanogen (who IMHO has the best Ion\Magic ROMs)
Hope that helps. will post update, if I get it working

Did you figure out the pixelation problem? I'm getting that also.

pbaird said:
Did you figure out the pixelation problem? I'm getting that also.
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i really thought i was the only one with this problem since nobody's brought it up. so far the only ones i haven't had a problem with were fatal1ty's and evil's.

you can use rav1.2.0 recovery to format your sd into 3 partitions

13bjunkie said:
i really thought i was the only one with this problem since nobody's brought it up. so far the only ones i haven't had a problem with were fatal1ty's and evil's.
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I'll try those as well then, and see what happens. It's funny, I couldn't find any posting about the display problem, but we can generate hundreds of pages of a thread if it involves a tiny speed increase

at the moment, I've been using fatal1ty's rom because tether isn't giving me problems.
evil's rom is set up great, aside from the tether problem.
otherwise, it's the rom I would go with.
set up fat32/ext2/linux-swap

Running Evil's right now on mt3g. The display works for me when I activate it after a timeout. I'd love to know what the difference is that does that. I'm using the same SD card, same partition layout.

pbaird said:
Running Evil's right now on mt3g. The display works for me when I activate it after a timeout. I'd love to know what the difference is that does that. I'm using the same SD card, same partition layout.
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does your wifi tether ever start up on that evil rom? that was the only problem i was running into. it was the qtek rom i was having display problems with

rooted mt3g ran qtek w/ compcache perfect. running noname v3 amazingly. was slow but used overclock widget and runs great now. only problem is i wish they didnt default apps to sd. the tmo phone has 288 megs or app storage so theres no need for apps to sd. i think it would run much better w/o it. but yes hero runs great on hero roms. only problem... not much of a problem i love my txt notification led to be blue, cyanogen lets u change color built in and sms popup lets u change as well but sms popup doesnt work on hero so im stuck with green. battery still sucks

xspeed9190 said:
rooted mt3g ran qtek w/ compcache perfect. running noname v3 amazingly. was slow but used overclock widget and runs great now. only problem is i wish they didnt default apps to sd. the tmo phone has 288 megs or app storage so theres no need for apps to sd. i think it would run much better w/o it. but yes hero runs great on hero roms. only problem... not much of a problem i love my txt notification led to be blue, cyanogen lets u change color built in and sms popup lets u change as well but sms popup doesnt work on hero so im stuck with green. battery still sucks
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which one would you rate better for speed, qtek or noname? i'm currently running qtek happily, but not having wifi access is really starting to get on my nerves as i plan to use anetshare to tether my netbook with

MT3G and Hero I NEED SOME HELP PLEASE!!

OK, i know im prob going to be it with allot of search answers and what not but i searched and i cant find the answer i need.
So i have a mt3g and it is rooted, cyan recovery, stock radio and stock spl. I have the ability to flash what ever rom i want, every time i do it works fine to install it. I normally run Cyan and the m_blend theme, how ever recently i have been trying out different hero roms. As it turns out i really like these roms and what they have to offer, however the only one i can get running smoothly is a jac heroski rom that apparently is out dated. Every time i flash to something newer it flashes fine and for the most part every thing work, how ever when i hit home i just get a loadin screen for at least 30 sec... now when i search this it says to make changed to my partitions on my sd card, but i am NOT running a partitioned sd card. Is that the problem? i thought that was only necessary for space on the G1? Any ways i guess what im asking is why does every one say to flash your spl or the rom wont install but it does fine? and why is it run fast except to home screen??

yes it's the problem. partition your sd with at least 96mb of linux swap. it has the same ram as the G1. Also, post this in general next time.

cool, thanx for the answer, how do i set that up? i searched for linx swap and came up with nothing?

Hi.
If you try Amon_RA recovery so you can do it from ther.
I would say that Amon_RA recovery is the best tool for flashing Rom`s.
If you have root and a terminal on your phone takes you to 2min after you've added recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.5.2H.img on your sdcarde.
go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530492

actually he has the mt3g, so he needs the 1.5.2G, not the H recovery.

make sure you back up your sdcard, though. its gonna erase everything on it to format it. (that caught me off guard, before. )

Thanks you guys rock... Now im looking for a good hero rom with all the working parts

PJcastaldo said:
Thanks you guys rock... Now im looking for a good hero rom with all the working parts
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i wouldn't go for a hero rom, personally. from what i hear they're unrelliable and slow. try cyanogens or dwangs. i say dwangs; i used it since 1.12 and only problem EVER was the random reboots which are now fixed.

r3s-rt said:
from what i hear they're unrelliable and slow.
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You heard wrong. Plenty of these roms that these devs have worked on are quite reliable and more than ready for everyday use. The only problem that I partially agree with you on is the speed. I wouldn't say it's slow. They are not as fast as Cyanogen or another stock rom, but it's not to a point where it's unbearable or you can't live with it. Some are actually pretty snappy if you have your phone set up right, you just gotta know how to tweak it for your phone.

tazz9690 said:
You heard wrong. Plenty of these roms that these devs have worked on are quite reliable and more than ready for everyday use. The only problem that I partially agree with you on is the speed. I wouldn't say it's slow. They are not as fast as Cyanogen or another stock rom, but it's not to a point where it's unbearable or you can't live with it. Some are actually pretty snappy if you have your phone set up right, you just gotta know how to tweak it for your phone.
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Exactly what he said....I will just add my two cents, as i have been in your shoes before. I have tried alot of ROMS and my favorite Hero(actually magic sense) rom is Trojan Hero (by Eugene373). everyone has thier own opinion just letting you know if you havn't tried it.
Use Swapper to change your swapper settings and tweak them to your phone. my settings are as follows 128mb swap and 80 swappiness
And one MAJOR POINT i can't stress enough which i noticed a big difference was the memory card. it's a known to have a class 6 sd card but for new people we never really know.
Once i changed it it gave me a big boost.
hope that helps

[Q] Planning a ROM change - need advice

Hi,
I am currently running CM6-RC3 on my G1. I am fed up with the slowness of the phone and I want to go to a fast OS, though I am spoilt rotten by some of the Froyo features. However, I think a fast ROM is still my prio.
First step is to get a Class 6 card and I have ordered an 8gig one from ebay. Should get that in a couple of days.
The second step of course is the ROM itself. Currently I have shortlisted SuperD 1.11 and SuperFroyo 2.6 Lite based on the reviews that I have read on the forum.
Firstly, if anyone has used these two ROMs, or can give me a comparative opinion of these two, then it would make my choice all the more easy. Is the SuperD really that that fast as compared to SuperFroyo that I should willingly sacrifice some Froyo functionality?
Also, how do I flash either of the ROMs? As I said, I have CM6 and AmonRa 1.7.0 Recovery. Now SuperD goes on about installing a legal base ROM and DRC83 (which itself has some new and updated versions in many threads) and then installing SuperD 1.11 itself. But coming from CM, is that necessary, or is it dangerous, or in short what am I supposed to do?
Similarly, if I have to flash SuperFroyo, should I do any preparations or just wipe and flash from the recovery?
The tough thing is that CM is so so so well documented that the other ROMs seem stark compared to that. I already have bricked a phone during the JF ROM era, so I don't want to screw up the one which is currently working. Any sort of detailed help, or pointers to other thread would be most helpful. I have been searching the forum and have not found anything that clarifies my doubts.
TIA.

I'm interested in the answers to your questions too. I've tried to improve speed and responsiveness by using many of the tricks posted in various threads but for daily usage the lags and the battery life are still not acceptable for me (though I like many of the Froyo features).
Having said that - you might want to check out the last pages of this thread [FAST][STABLE]SpeedTeam Froyo [v3.1.1][OFFICIAL RELEASE][8/23/10]
XxKOLOHExX is developing a 1.6-ROM with as many Froyo-Features as possible while retaining the speed, responsivness and stability of Donut. I'm very much looking forward to that ROM.

Having said that - you might want to check out the last pages of this thread [FAST][STABLE]SpeedTeam Froyo [v3.1.1][OFFICIAL RELEASE][8/23/10]
XxKOLOHExX is developing a 1.6-ROM with as many Froyo-Features as possible while retaining the speed, responsivness and stability of Donut. I'm very much looking forward to that ROM.
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did he say when about hed be done? or did he just start on the donut rom?
I am currently running CM6-RC3 on my G1. I am fed up with the slowness of the phone and I want to go to a fast OS, though I am spoilt rotten by some of the Froyo features. However, I think a fast ROM is still my prio.
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the final cyanogenmod v6 is really fast and stable. ive been running it since it was uploaded and havent had any problem at all.. kinda weird lol im used to some kind of force close or reboots but so far this rom seems really stable, you should try it out.

You might want to figure out why cm6 is so slow for you. Its probably the user, not the rom. I'm not a cyan groupie but this is by far the fastest rom I've used...and I've tried A LOT of different roms.
Sent from my jitterbug

staunty said:
You might want to figure out why cm6 is so slow for you. Its probably the user, not the rom. I'm not a cyan groupie but this is by far the fastest rom I've used...and I've tried A LOT of different roms.
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Really?, and you using it on a G1? CM5 was quite fast until ADW crashed on me and I had to reflash - decided to flash CM6 at that time. What are your SD partitions, if any? I am running it plain with only one large FAT32 partition.

I am a heavy texter. On Hero ROMs, it takes about 500-600 text's to start FC's and loading screens. On Froyo, I don't know how, but it took 200-300...Im on Super E right now and I can say I'm pleased. I'm at 1,902 Texts right now and its running ill say 90% of how fast it was when I just flashed it.

geekoo said:
Really?, and you using it on a G1? CM5 was quite fast until ADW crashed on me and I had to reflash - decided to flash CM6 at that time. What are your SD partitions, if any? I am running it plain with only one large FAT32 partition.
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Everyone has their personal preference with regard to swap or no swap, compcache, jit, etc. I have no clue what works best even on my own phone (mt3g). But to let you know, I have a 32 MB swap partition, 512 ext 3 or 4 (can't remember, I think its ext4) and the rest FAT32.

donut/1.6? super d
eclair/2.1? super e
froyo/2.2? super f (not completed yet)
theyre all based off CM

geekoo said:
Hi,
I am currently running CM6-RC3 on my G1. I am fed up with the slowness of the phone and I want to go to a fast OS, though I am spoilt rotten by some of the Froyo features. However, I think a fast ROM is still my prio.
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I felt the same way. I've went back to CM4 and CM5 trying to find the right balance. I am now back on CM6 latest and I think I may have found the key to making my phone perform well.
Swap. On a G1 with Froyo it seems that swap is a must. Once I enabled swap my market issues (would return to home at random, especially when searching) and other weird issues went away (shortcuts to URLs wouldn't open he URL but just my homepage). Try swap before you completely bail out of CM6. Even running swap on FAT showed a lot of improvement. I have noticed though that after a couple of days my phone starts acting funny so I turn swap off (swapoff command from terminal) and then back on and things clear up.
Of course this is all my common observation but I really think swap changed CM6 on my G1 from too slow for everyday use to the best ROM there is. I really think with the extra RAM needed for Froyo there just isn't enough left for simple apps (market, browser, etc) to function correctly.
Matt

Super D 1.11 (aka 1.10.4) is quality and I'm so happily suprised at how fast it is
I had forgotten what it was like to own a phone that just well worked without hassle of lose of functionality. As pretty as Eclair and Froyo are they simply can't match a good donut.
Give it a try and use the Setup Up Guide for Donut in my sig a look, it was designed around Super D

shadowch31 said:
Super D 1.11 (aka 1.10.4) is quality and I'm so happily suprised at how fast it is
I had forgotten what it was like to own a phone that just well worked without hassle of lose of functionality. As pretty as Eclair and Froyo are they simply can't match a good donut.
Give it a try and use the Setup Up Guide for Donut in my sig a look, it was designed around Super D
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i just went to Super-E cause all of the froyos are too slow for my taste and all seem to be based on CM6 so what's the point? Plus one of my fav devs, Ben isnt working on SuperF atm so im kind of sad about that. His was my fav but its discontinued . The battery on it is good and speed, not as quick on its feet as donut but gets the job done, plus still has some newer features.

[Q] Need help after upgrading to android 2.2

Hi,
I recently installed Dexter's rom on my xt720 as I wanted to use the app2sd. All went well except I realized there was less memory available now then before.
About 50 megs only now and I think it was more in the 70 to 80 megs free before.
Is there a better ROM to install or some options I can tweak to make it as fast as it can, I already changed my sdcard to a level 10 one and that alone is a nice start for recording videos but I would like to play games on it and it's not that great right now with this free RAM.
Thx for the help, there is a lot of infos on this site but I'm afraid I need some directions!

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Hi,
I recently installed Dexter's rom on my xt720 as I wanted to use the app2sd. All went well except I realized there was less memory available now then before.
About 50 megs only now and I think it was more in the 70 to 80 megs free before.
Is there a better ROM to install or some options I can tweak to make it as fast as it can, I already changed my sdcard to a level 10 one and that alone is a nice start for recording videos but I would like to play games on it and it's not that great right now with this free RAM.
Thx for the help, there is a lot of infos on this site but I'm afraid I need some directions!
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Dexters ROM has been known to have RAM issues and with use it will slowly go down even further. There are many newer ROM's available which you could try out. Specifically The Hellmonger XDA special or Mioze7Ae's CM6. If you are a hardcore gamer, which these ROM's you can activate swap and use applications like chainfire 3D which will allow you to play most games you want. If this is what you choose to do, then we will give you more instructions on how to go about it.

gu3vara said:
Hi,
I recently installed Dexter's rom on my xt720 as I wanted to use the app2sd. All went well except I realized there was less memory available now then before.
About 50 megs only now and I think it was more in the 70 to 80 megs free before.
Is there a better ROM to install or some options I can tweak to make it as fast as it can, I already changed my sdcard to a level 10 one and that alone is a nice start for recording videos but I would like to play games on it and it's not that great right now with this free RAM.
Thx for the help, there is a lot of infos on this site but I'm afraid I need some directions!
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If you want probably one of the most stable ROMs in my opinion, then u have to try the Wanhu Epic SteelBlue. AFAIK, it has no memory issues and plays games smoothly with rare force closes and till today no random reboots. it supports app2ext and link2sd if im not wrong. Hope that helps!

I finally went with the MiuiXt_Final_V2 and it's running much better, with plenty of ram available.
Three questions though : I have no sound when recording a video, is it normal and is there a fix?
The swap works fine, but do I have to fastboot the phone every time I reboot it, using my computer and all?
I'm starting to figure how things work....!
Thx

gu3vara said:
I finally went with the MiuiXt_Final_V2 and it's running much better, with plenty of ram available.
Three questions though : I have no sound when recording a video, is it normal and is there a fix?
The swap works fine, but do I have to fastboot the phone every time I reboot it, using my computer and all?
I'm starting to figure how things work....!
Thx
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Thats great. MIUI is supposedly the fastest ROM along with CM6 and it does have alot of cool features. I haven't used it since the beta phase, and I believe the stock moto camera application was ported to the phone so you shouldnt be having any trouble with the sound. It would make more sense if you ask on the MIUI thread as people who use it will guide you better with the quirks on that ROM.
Unfortunately yes you have to fastboot everytime the phone reboots. The reason for this is swap uses a custom kernel. The kernel is that peice of computer language which communicates between your hardware and software. Our phone has a locked bootloader which inturn prevents us from flashing kernels besides the official motorola one. I do however know on the MIUI rom there is a quick reboot option which people use which keeps the kernel loaded. You can use that when you need to reboot.

I found the quick reboot function, thx!
I have no problem with sound when recording anymore, don't know why it failed the first time I tried it
This rom is much more stable than dexter's version, really glad I installed it.