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OK, i know im prob going to be it with allot of search answers and what not but i searched and i cant find the answer i need.
So i have a mt3g and it is rooted, cyan recovery, stock radio and stock spl. I have the ability to flash what ever rom i want, every time i do it works fine to install it. I normally run Cyan and the m_blend theme, how ever recently i have been trying out different hero roms. As it turns out i really like these roms and what they have to offer, however the only one i can get running smoothly is a jac heroski rom that apparently is out dated. Every time i flash to something newer it flashes fine and for the most part every thing work, how ever when i hit home i just get a loadin screen for at least 30 sec... now when i search this it says to make changed to my partitions on my sd card, but i am NOT running a partitioned sd card. Is that the problem? i thought that was only necessary for space on the G1? Any ways i guess what im asking is why does every one say to flash your spl or the rom wont install but it does fine? and why is it run fast except to home screen??
yes it's the problem. partition your sd with at least 96mb of linux swap. it has the same ram as the G1. Also, post this in general next time.
cool, thanx for the answer, how do i set that up? i searched for linx swap and came up with nothing?
Hi.
If you try Amon_RA recovery so you can do it from ther.
I would say that Amon_RA recovery is the best tool for flashing Rom`s.
If you have root and a terminal on your phone takes you to 2min after you've added recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.5.2H.img on your sdcarde.
go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530492
actually he has the mt3g, so he needs the 1.5.2G, not the H recovery.
make sure you back up your sdcard, though. its gonna erase everything on it to format it. (that caught me off guard, before. )
Thanks you guys rock... Now im looking for a good hero rom with all the working parts
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Thanks you guys rock... Now im looking for a good hero rom with all the working parts
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i wouldn't go for a hero rom, personally. from what i hear they're unrelliable and slow. try cyanogens or dwangs. i say dwangs; i used it since 1.12 and only problem EVER was the random reboots which are now fixed.
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from what i hear they're unrelliable and slow.
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You heard wrong. Plenty of these roms that these devs have worked on are quite reliable and more than ready for everyday use. The only problem that I partially agree with you on is the speed. I wouldn't say it's slow. They are not as fast as Cyanogen or another stock rom, but it's not to a point where it's unbearable or you can't live with it. Some are actually pretty snappy if you have your phone set up right, you just gotta know how to tweak it for your phone.
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You heard wrong. Plenty of these roms that these devs have worked on are quite reliable and more than ready for everyday use. The only problem that I partially agree with you on is the speed. I wouldn't say it's slow. They are not as fast as Cyanogen or another stock rom, but it's not to a point where it's unbearable or you can't live with it. Some are actually pretty snappy if you have your phone set up right, you just gotta know how to tweak it for your phone.
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Exactly what he said....I will just add my two cents, as i have been in your shoes before. I have tried alot of ROMS and my favorite Hero(actually magic sense) rom is Trojan Hero (by Eugene373). everyone has thier own opinion just letting you know if you havn't tried it.
Use Swapper to change your swapper settings and tweak them to your phone. my settings are as follows 128mb swap and 80 swappiness
And one MAJOR POINT i can't stress enough which i noticed a big difference was the memory card. it's a known to have a class 6 sd card but for new people we never really know.
Once i changed it it gave me a big boost.
hope that helps
Hi,
I am currently running CM6-RC3 on my G1. I am fed up with the slowness of the phone and I want to go to a fast OS, though I am spoilt rotten by some of the Froyo features. However, I think a fast ROM is still my prio.
First step is to get a Class 6 card and I have ordered an 8gig one from ebay. Should get that in a couple of days.
The second step of course is the ROM itself. Currently I have shortlisted SuperD 1.11 and SuperFroyo 2.6 Lite based on the reviews that I have read on the forum.
Firstly, if anyone has used these two ROMs, or can give me a comparative opinion of these two, then it would make my choice all the more easy. Is the SuperD really that that fast as compared to SuperFroyo that I should willingly sacrifice some Froyo functionality?
Also, how do I flash either of the ROMs? As I said, I have CM6 and AmonRa 1.7.0 Recovery. Now SuperD goes on about installing a legal base ROM and DRC83 (which itself has some new and updated versions in many threads) and then installing SuperD 1.11 itself. But coming from CM, is that necessary, or is it dangerous, or in short what am I supposed to do?
Similarly, if I have to flash SuperFroyo, should I do any preparations or just wipe and flash from the recovery?
The tough thing is that CM is so so so well documented that the other ROMs seem stark compared to that. I already have bricked a phone during the JF ROM era, so I don't want to screw up the one which is currently working. Any sort of detailed help, or pointers to other thread would be most helpful. I have been searching the forum and have not found anything that clarifies my doubts.
TIA.
I'm interested in the answers to your questions too. I've tried to improve speed and responsiveness by using many of the tricks posted in various threads but for daily usage the lags and the battery life are still not acceptable for me (though I like many of the Froyo features).
Having said that - you might want to check out the last pages of this thread [FAST][STABLE]SpeedTeam Froyo [v3.1.1][OFFICIAL RELEASE][8/23/10]
XxKOLOHExX is developing a 1.6-ROM with as many Froyo-Features as possible while retaining the speed, responsivness and stability of Donut. I'm very much looking forward to that ROM.
Having said that - you might want to check out the last pages of this thread [FAST][STABLE]SpeedTeam Froyo [v3.1.1][OFFICIAL RELEASE][8/23/10]
XxKOLOHExX is developing a 1.6-ROM with as many Froyo-Features as possible while retaining the speed, responsivness and stability of Donut. I'm very much looking forward to that ROM.
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did he say when about hed be done? or did he just start on the donut rom?
I am currently running CM6-RC3 on my G1. I am fed up with the slowness of the phone and I want to go to a fast OS, though I am spoilt rotten by some of the Froyo features. However, I think a fast ROM is still my prio.
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the final cyanogenmod v6 is really fast and stable. ive been running it since it was uploaded and havent had any problem at all.. kinda weird lol im used to some kind of force close or reboots but so far this rom seems really stable, you should try it out.
You might want to figure out why cm6 is so slow for you. Its probably the user, not the rom. I'm not a cyan groupie but this is by far the fastest rom I've used...and I've tried A LOT of different roms.
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staunty said:
You might want to figure out why cm6 is so slow for you. Its probably the user, not the rom. I'm not a cyan groupie but this is by far the fastest rom I've used...and I've tried A LOT of different roms.
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Really?, and you using it on a G1? CM5 was quite fast until ADW crashed on me and I had to reflash - decided to flash CM6 at that time. What are your SD partitions, if any? I am running it plain with only one large FAT32 partition.
I am a heavy texter. On Hero ROMs, it takes about 500-600 text's to start FC's and loading screens. On Froyo, I don't know how, but it took 200-300...Im on Super E right now and I can say I'm pleased. I'm at 1,902 Texts right now and its running ill say 90% of how fast it was when I just flashed it.
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Really?, and you using it on a G1? CM5 was quite fast until ADW crashed on me and I had to reflash - decided to flash CM6 at that time. What are your SD partitions, if any? I am running it plain with only one large FAT32 partition.
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Everyone has their personal preference with regard to swap or no swap, compcache, jit, etc. I have no clue what works best even on my own phone (mt3g). But to let you know, I have a 32 MB swap partition, 512 ext 3 or 4 (can't remember, I think its ext4) and the rest FAT32.
donut/1.6? super d
eclair/2.1? super e
froyo/2.2? super f (not completed yet)
theyre all based off CM
geekoo said:
Hi,
I am currently running CM6-RC3 on my G1. I am fed up with the slowness of the phone and I want to go to a fast OS, though I am spoilt rotten by some of the Froyo features. However, I think a fast ROM is still my prio.
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I felt the same way. I've went back to CM4 and CM5 trying to find the right balance. I am now back on CM6 latest and I think I may have found the key to making my phone perform well.
Swap. On a G1 with Froyo it seems that swap is a must. Once I enabled swap my market issues (would return to home at random, especially when searching) and other weird issues went away (shortcuts to URLs wouldn't open he URL but just my homepage). Try swap before you completely bail out of CM6. Even running swap on FAT showed a lot of improvement. I have noticed though that after a couple of days my phone starts acting funny so I turn swap off (swapoff command from terminal) and then back on and things clear up.
Of course this is all my common observation but I really think swap changed CM6 on my G1 from too slow for everyday use to the best ROM there is. I really think with the extra RAM needed for Froyo there just isn't enough left for simple apps (market, browser, etc) to function correctly.
Matt
Super D 1.11 (aka 1.10.4) is quality and I'm so happily suprised at how fast it is
I had forgotten what it was like to own a phone that just well worked without hassle of lose of functionality. As pretty as Eclair and Froyo are they simply can't match a good donut.
Give it a try and use the Setup Up Guide for Donut in my sig a look, it was designed around Super D
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Super D 1.11 (aka 1.10.4) is quality and I'm so happily suprised at how fast it is
I had forgotten what it was like to own a phone that just well worked without hassle of lose of functionality. As pretty as Eclair and Froyo are they simply can't match a good donut.
Give it a try and use the Setup Up Guide for Donut in my sig a look, it was designed around Super D
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i just went to Super-E cause all of the froyos are too slow for my taste and all seem to be based on CM6 so what's the point? Plus one of my fav devs, Ben isnt working on SuperF atm so im kind of sad about that. His was my fav but its discontinued . The battery on it is good and speed, not as quick on its feet as donut but gets the job done, plus still has some newer features.
6 months of using a rock solid stable rom xxkb3 (stock), I had only 1 issue that I needed Gb update that is few new apps only work on GB such as equalizer a great app for music but that too is buggy on GB, it produces tik tak tuk (static sound) on an ideal phone.
I finally updated to xxkpm based custom rom with all those fancy stuff now I observe that the phone is lagging in camera/ phonebook, messeging etc, battery backup is almost same as froyo many version of GB are having problem with following.
high battery drain
WIFI connection drops
In sleep mode, data connection stops working
push mail notification does not work
gtalk/skype video chat does not work
car bluetooth connection drop (phonebook download issue)
I wonder what was this whole GB noise all about, to me version number are just numbers & they don't necessarily mean better stable rom than Froyo.
So I am wondering whats the gain in updating to GB accept that you get a new FW which is still buggy in many areas.
Namaless specifically mentioned that GB is buggy & ditched the development on gb & based his custom rom on xxkb3.
Those who are with GB & prefer GB various version can you tell me what is better in GB that is making you use GB for your daily use? please list features which you think was not available in froyo on i9003
You can see the different here..
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-android-2-2-froyo-and-android-2-3-gingerbread/
Ya...you are right. But it depends on ur preferanace. I dont need wifi, gmail sync (i do it manually), vdo chat. I just use themes, 2g net, lots of fun apps, latest mods like 10 lockscreens, 14 toggles, kernal related mods. This is our normal user view.
But if u ask any developer especially kernal developers then they will definitely 1st go for gb because source codes are more simpler & gives developer more modification in kernal & whole rom. The problems which u have mentione can be solved in cm7. Regarding vdo calling I have hopes from doomlord. He has kernal & device driver's knowledge.
1. I had problem with WiFi (not as others have), but it was solved with help of copying WiFi settings from Froyo. Now it works well for me
2. Battery drain is the same for me now (Before I was using OsmanFansRom v1.2.1, now CianogenMod7). Look at the image (I used it very small today). As you can see it uses battery with the same speed as on Froyo. Draining depends of usage). When I listen music all time through bluetooth it can work only 12 hours. but it's good for mp3 players, isn't it?
3. Never use this (I don't need email at my phone, I always near PCs), And never checked it
4. I use skype very seldom (and only for chatting). BTW in Froyo Video doesn't work too
5. I'm using stereo bleotooth all day long (listening music, speaking and so on). I never had problem with it. I don't know may be car's bluetooth is different, but I don't think so.
Pluses I received from CM7: It's very customizable, It's very easy to apply themes, it's very good looking for me, and I like to use it even now (when it's beta). I like effects OldTV, showing messages in the top bar, unlock effects, and so on.
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My reason (apart from the stability), is videocalls. I needs videocalls every day, and this I can only get in Froyo. I only can do videocalls using Tango, and only in Froyo. The other aps (Fring, Oovoo and Skype) in Froyo, and all the apps (includind Tango) in ginger doesn't work. The issue is the same, flickering with the front camera, FC doesn't work well.
I would use ginger because it is more customizable and has things like CRT effect, but I need videocalls, and that only I can do it in froyo and with tango ....
froyo's ancient man!
would u buy a samsung galaxy s 3 years from now,or buy a much better phone for the same price even though u now gs1 is rock stable and solid?
I don't understand you, sorry for my english, but I bought this phone, and I want i9003 give me everything i9003 can do (including videocalls)
GB is better!!!!
Ya man u r right froyo was stable....gingerbread is also stable for normal use....
I felt the following changes-
Speed(u have to agree its fast and smooth)..
More customizable...new and better rom's from developers
Its neat...less lag...better quadrant....more games support..etc
sakindia123 said:
froyo's ancient man!
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Sure ancient but at least stable for daily use (XXKB3)
would u buy a samsung galaxy s 3 years from now,or buy a much better phone for the same price even though u now gs1 is rock stable and solid?
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Probably YES since phone to me is a tool to be used for my daily work, life, enjoyment, education etc, The last phone I used was 6 years old moto works like a charm even now, I am not those kinds who are after the latest & greatest & most fashionable phones no matter what the specs may be.
Prime importance for me is, can the phone make me more productive in day to day work/ life, if yes then I will go for it.
ayush95gupta said:
Ya man u r right froyo was stable....gingerbread is also stable for normal use....
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Stable with all those bugs are you serious? Last 6 months I am hearing about GB yet the bugs have not been rooted out.
I felt the following changes-
Speed(u have to agree its fast and smooth)..
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In day to day use I havent found any speed difference may be bcoz I was already using a very good stable rom XXKB3
More customizable...new and better rom's from developers
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Yes sure but thats where the whole lot of mess is happening, just posted a review of a great rom with some great graphics, you may want to read this review.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19371407#post19371407
Its neat...less lag...better quadrant....more games support..etc
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Yes due to many new mods its less laggy, but I experienced the same lag in one of the custom rom I tried, now I have changed to another one & will see if it really is a power horse or lags exactly the same way.
So you are saying, "many GB update released and they all crap". That's against the logic why we need updates? Why softwares need updates? Why updates are needed?
First of all stability isn't everthing for hardwares but for sure it's a very important thing. Updates can provide many abilities to hardwares which previous versions can't do. Updates are for to improve performance, efficiency, stability, ergonomics, friendliness. However this doesn't happen as expected and create new problems. And it continues to the time a better solution is arrived.
As for me. I'm using XXKPN.
I can't even use GPS in froyo - Works perfectly now.
I charged my phone everyday - Charging in 2-3 day period.
Lags, self reboots - No lag, no reboot.
Touch sensivity is not bad - After using KPN I say it's perfect.
It takes hours to load phonebook - Loads very very faster now.
"many GB update released and they all crap"
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No I don't mean that GB is crap, but its still far from being bug free for daily (heavy) usage of various features. Wifi connection dropping is the latest thing which is bugging users. I have faced a bluetooth bug with 2 custom roms they don't work well with car bluetooth & hang at phonebook download but never finishes it thus the music streaming interrupts after 15 sec.
Since I have only used xxkpm whereas xxkpn was released after that may be it sorts out many bugs which I am facing.
The biggest reason for my upgrade is HD playback. This single reason is enough for me.
I think overall Gb is good, I also never have WiFi problem.
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Hd video shot with the camera always played smooth in froyo. Hd encoded with certain codec had problems for which I used mobo player.
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No I don't mean that GB is crap, but its still far from being bug free for daily (heavy) usage of various features. Wifi connection dropping is the latest thing which is bugging users. I have faced a bluetooth bug with 2 custom roms they don't work well with car bluetooth & hang at phonebook download but never finishes it thus the music streaming interrupts after 15 sec.
Since I have only used xxkpm whereas xxkpn was released after that may be it sorts out many bugs which I am facing.
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I updated XXKPN from XXKPE. I heard that many user faced with wifi and 3g issues but I didn't. I don't really know why but small differences on variables can cause various effects on usage. Anyway, it's sensible to use latest software.
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Hd video shot with the camera always played smooth in froyo. Hd encoded with certain codec had problems for which I used mobo player.
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But it will not play smooth or through hardware decoding. Now I just download 720 movie and enjoy directly without thinking for converting.
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Why did i update?
- Froyo crashes every 2-3 days for me. Gingerbread works perfectly.
- Better battery in Gingerbread
- Feels 'smoother' than Froyo
- .flv files actually play
i have the same problem with GB
can someone tell me how copying WiFi settings from the Froyo?
falex007 said:
1. I had problem with WiFi (not as others have), but it was solved with help of copying WiFi settings from Froyo. Now it works well for me
2. Battery drain is the same for me now (Before I was using OsmanFansRom v1.2.1, now CianogenMod7). Look at the image (I used it very small today). As you can see it uses battery with the same speed as on Froyo. Draining depends of usage). When I listen music all time through bluetooth it can work only 12 hours. but it's good for mp3 players, isn't it?
3. Never use this (I don't need email at my phone, I always near PCs), And never checked it
4. I use skype very seldom (and only for chatting). BTW in Froyo Video doesn't work too
5. I'm using stereo bleotooth all day long (listening music, speaking and so on). I never had problem with it. I don't know may be car's bluetooth is different, but I don't think so.
Pluses I received from CM7: It's very customizable, It's very easy to apply themes, it's very good looking for me, and I like to use it even now (when it's beta). I like effects OldTV, showing messages in the top bar, unlock effects, and so on.
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i have the same problem with GB
can someone tell me how copying WiFi settings from the Froyo?
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Hi.
Are you sure you have the same problem as I had? No one before had this problem on this forum.
in the attach my fix to copy settings files. You have to apply this file in the CWM (before applying be sure you have mounted /system partition).
Edit: here is description of my problem. BTW I don't have this problem with ICS ROMs (CM9 or MIUI4)
falex007 said:
Hi.
Are you sure you have the same problem as I had? No one before had this problem on this forum.
in the attach my fix to copy settings files. You have to apply this file in the CWM (before applying be sure you have mounted /system partition).
Edit: here is description of my problem. BTW I don't have this problem with ICS ROMs (CM9 or MIUI4)
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yes i'm sure
cuz no one else have my problem ! just like u
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I apply it &
it works well
thanks
I must say hello again to the high speed wifi connection through my phone
So in the past few weeks I have downloaded a couple 'task killer' apps in an attempt to free up some RAM usage. I'm currently using (after a fresh reboot) 515mb w/ 325 mb free. After about an hour of my phone just sitting (no calls, games, texts, etc.) My RAM usage will jump up to ~750mb used w/ 90mb free. Every time I kill an app it just reboots, eating my RAM again.
What I would like to know, is even after I 'kill' all apps (appearing in Clean Master) I am still using ~600mb. What on earth is using so much RAM, and WHY does my phone use so much?
Also: DEATH TO GOOGLE BLOATWARE. GOOGLE, YOU ARE BECOMING THE INTERNET MICROSOFT AND I HOPE YOU FALL. HARD.
tl;dr: how do i prevent apps from constantly running WITHOUT uninstalling everything or doing a fresh install
Maybe try a custom kernel
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Maybe try a custom kernel
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i was unaware that the kernel was unlocked. i have a HTC Inspire with CM7 running, but the screen is busted badly. Usable, but its terrible. that thing runs better than my atrix 2, and my atrix 2 has 'much better' specs than the htc.
Run a custom ROM? Custom ROM have got debloated a lot and ram management is better IMO.. Also try greenify to kill app while u don't use it..
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Run a custom ROM? Custom ROM have got debloated a lot and ram management is better IMO.. Also try greenify to kill app while u don't use it..
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Again, as far as I am aware, the kernel is locked. The only type of rom we atrix 2 owners can get are custom skins basically. Unless I am mistaken, I can't put cyanogenmod on my atrix 2. As much as I would love to.
Owh.. We have a lot of custom..and we can use jbx kernel kexec boot.. We have cm10.12 which is the latest version I think.. Mokee , miui v5.. Check our android dev section and u'll amazed..
Edit: I think I know what u meant.. Yeah its only a port.. But at least it got better performance..
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hafizkris90 said:
Owh.. We have a lot of custom..and we can use jbx kernel kexec boot.. We have cm10.12 which is the latest version I think.. Mokee , miui v5.. Check our android dev section and u'll amazed..
Edit: I think I know what u meant.. Yeah its only a port.. But at least it got better performance..
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If I remember the thread correctly, the Atrix 2 bootloader is locked, and we cannot get custom kernels for our Atrix 2. Yea, theres all sorts of mods out there, but without the bootloader unlocked we can't get a custom kernel, which, unless I am mistaken, is what I truly need.
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If I remember the thread correctly, the Atrix 2 bootloader is locked, and we cannot get custom kernels for our Atrix 2. Yea, theres all sorts of mods out there, but without the bootloader unlocked we can't get a custom kernel, which, unless I am mistaken, is what I truly need.
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Custom kernel for Atrix 2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2320784
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wasted RAM??
Folks. free RAM is wasted RAM
Task killers are the only waste.
Android is meant to have applications running in background.
Just read around. you'll find all you need.
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wasted RAM??
Folks. free RAM is wasted RAM
Task killers are the only waste.
Android is meant to have applications running in background.
Just read around. you'll find all you need.
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That's perfectly fine and dandy, but I've had to remove my battery several times JUST to reboot due to too much ram being used. Imagine trying to load, say, the settings page, and all you get is, after 20 minutes, "homepage is not responding."
2nd of all, my PC currently has 11gb of ram free + however much the paging file isn't using. I have no problem loading anything. Once I start reaching the threshold for the amount of ram I have, my pc will bluescreen and reboot. RAM is meant to be used, by all means. but when other apps are HOGGING it, it prevents OTHER apps from properly using it. I am trying to find out what is HOGGING my ram and free it up, so that other more important processes can use it.
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That's perfectly fine and dandy, but I've had to remove my battery several times JUST to reboot due to too much ram being used. Imagine trying to load, say, the settings page, and all you get is, after 20 minutes, "homepage is not responding."
2nd of all, my PC currently has 11gb of ram free + however much the paging file isn't using. I have no problem loading anything. Once I start reaching the threshold for the amount of ram I have, my pc will bluescreen and reboot. RAM is meant to be used, by all means. but when other apps are HOGGING it, it prevents OTHER apps from properly using it. I am trying to find out what is HOGGING my ram and free it up, so that other more important processes can use it.
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Damn. Thats alot of ram.
I'd say you probably have too much crap on your phone. And the fact that your obviously running stock seals the deal.
Uninstall all the crap, or install a custom Rom.
MotoMudder77 said:
Damn. Thats alot of ram.
I'd say you probably have too much crap on your phone. And the fact that your obviously running stock seals the deal.
Uninstall all the crap, or install a custom Rom.
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Yea, I've been keeping an eye on custom roms. Mostly waiting for everything to be unlocked before i attempt anything though. Super simple to get my HTC rooted and unlocked, looks like the atrix 2 is proving to be more difficult. From my understanding: Bootloader is locked, which won't allow for full kernel replacement, just emulation. Full custom rom features require a completely custom kernel, which can't be achieved until the bootloader is unlocked.
If im wrong about this, please explain it to me. I spent 6 months or so researching the do's and dont's, whys and why nots of rooting and unlocking my HTC before i even attempted it.
Also, I don't have a lot of 'crap' on my phone. 5 or 6 games which i recycle (when i dont play it for 2 weeks i delete it, unless i REALLY like it), i have the 'basic' apps (social networking). There's currently 104 apps on my phone, most of which i have never even loaded once, yet can't uninstall (google music, mobile hotspot, google messenger, music store, play movies and tv, read books, just to name a few)
From what I can SEE, the biggest culprit is google bloatware, forcing crap down my throat i have absolutely no use for. i clean my phone twice a month (removing temp files, directory cleanup from uninstalled games, etc) as well. I just want to see what ELSE is using my ram. I've killed all tasks, whats using 500mb of ram now.
To give you an idea, as i said before, I have 12gb of ram on my pc. i currently have 15 tabs in firefox open, steam running, and 2 games in the background. I'm only using 28% of my total ram, or 3.4gb. If I close out of everything, I'll only have 10% used, or 1.2gb. Translated to my phone, There is no reason I should be using 60%+ of my ram, when NOTHING is running.
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Yea, I've been keeping an eye on custom roms. Mostly waiting for everything to be unlocked before i attempt anything though. Super simple to get my HTC rooted and unlocked, looks like the atrix 2 is proving to be more difficult. From my understanding: Bootloader is locked, which won't allow for full kernel replacement, just emulation. Full custom rom features require a completely custom kernel, which can't be achieved until the bootloader is unlocked.
If im wrong about this, please explain it to me. I spent 6 months or so researching the do's and dont's, whys and why nots of rooting and unlocking my HTC before i even attempted it.
Also, I don't have a lot of 'crap' on my phone. 5 or 6 games which i recycle (when i dont play it for 2 weeks i delete it, unless i REALLY like it), i have the 'basic' apps (social networking). There's currently 104 apps on my phone, most of which i have never even loaded once, yet can't uninstall (google music, mobile hotspot, google messenger, music store, play movies and tv, read books, just to name a few)
From what I can SEE, the biggest culprit is google bloatware, forcing crap down my throat i have absolutely no use for. i clean my phone twice a month (removing temp files, directory cleanup from uninstalled games, etc) as well. I just want to see what ELSE is using my ram. I've killed all tasks, whats using 500mb of ram now.
To give you an idea, as i said before, I have 12gb of ram on my pc. i currently have 15 tabs in firefox open, steam running, and 2 games in the background. I'm only using 28% of my total ram, or 3.4gb. If I close out of everything, I'll only have 10% used, or 1.2gb. Translated to my phone, There is no reason I should be using 60%+ of my ram, when NOTHING is running.
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bootloader is not gonna get unlocked, so you can stop waiting for that.
No such thing as a "Full" custom ROM. unlocked devices can run custom kernels which is much better. We have kexec. not sure if its really emulated, but something like that. I havent read up on the details.
Your way off on who you are blaming. You dont have a google phone, you have a motorola, a very crappy one at that. The applications you listed, well I've never heard of, and are motorola junk. along with alot more that your unaware of.
You will never get your ram empty. You cant. unless you turn your phone off. applications MUST run for your phone to work. Launcher, phone, system, ect.
Cant compare a windows PC to a device. thats like windows to linux, completely different.
You looking to much into it. your issue is your running stock. Root it, and install a custom ROM.
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bootloader is not gonna get unlocked, so you can stop waiting for that.
No such thing as a "Full" custom ROM. unlocked devices can run custom kernels which is much better. We have kexec. not sure if its really emulated, but something like that. I havent read up on the details.
Your way off on who you are blaming. You dont have a google phone, you have a motorola, a very crappy one at that. The applications you listed, well I've never heard of, and are motorola junk. along with alot more that your unaware of.
You will never get your ram empty. You cant. unless you turn your phone off. applications MUST run for your phone to work. Launcher, phone, system, ect.
Cant compare a windows PC to a device. thats like windows to linux, completely different.
You looking to much into it. your issue is your running stock. Root it, and install a custom ROM.
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I'll look in to that. I don't want to empty my ram, thats a futile effort. I just want to find out what is using 500mb of my 800mb available. When I first got my phone, I was only using 250-300ish, tops. What happened between day one and day, well, now, that took another 200ish mb chunk of available ram. And if it truly is _JUST_ core system os files that are using 500mb of ram, well, then that is terrible coding. and i dont care WHAT brand of android you have, you are using a google phone, seeing as how android is owned and developed by google.
Here is a little list for you:
AT&T Smart Wifi
AT&T Navigator
Email
Emergency Alerts
GMail (Why are there 2 separate email apps? Email can pull gmail just fine)
Google Settings (NOT PHONE SETTINGS)
Google+
Google Hangouts
Google+ Messenger (Again, I don't use G+, why do I have this automatically installed)
Help Center (The manual isn't good enough I guess)
Messages (Not the text message app, some random junk that was installed with the OS, guessing AT&T)
Movies (Pretty sure this is Moto)
Music Store (Again, probably Moto)
My Music (Definitely Moto)
MyAT&T (This is stupid)
Navigation (By Google. Again, AUTOMATICALLY installed with os, along side AT&T Nav. Why do I need 2 GPS apps?)
News & Weather (I can look outside to see if its raining)
People (exact same thing as Contacts, this one is by Google)
Play Books (Google)
Play Movies and TV (Google)
Play Music (Google, and the 2nd music player)
Google Search
Social Location
Everything I just listed I have absolutely ZERO use for. Yes, I have a Motorola phone, but the software is Google. And, I reiterate, Google is the bloatware culprit.
11 Google Apps
3 or 4 AT&T Apps
3 or 4 Motorola Apps
All that being said; Yes, I will still look in to that custom rom, and I appreciate the help.
emulation or not.. its still better.. tbh unlocking the boot loader seems to be impossible,., yeah Motorola is suck.. but not people here.. they are dedicated to what ever they do..for me full rom, half rom even quarter rom or emulation kernel if thats gonna ease up ur my phone imma go for it.. maybe im not a tech savvy to begin with.. i've tried living with stock ics.. believe me its harder than it spose even im rooted and freezes unwanted app..why dont give these rom a go and see if its good..
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Again, as far as I am aware, the kernel is locked.
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Well it's not the kernel that is locked,it's the bootloader.
The only type of rom we atrix 2 owners can get are custom skins basically. Unless I am mistaken, I can't put cyanogenmod on my atrix 2. As much as I would love to.
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Lol you could not be more off.The custom ROMs we have are not just custom skins.Well not the JB custom ROMs atleast.They have been built from source(most of them)
I could agree with you regarding the ICS ROMs as almost all of them are based on stock ICS and are modified to have a better performance,UI,unlocked features etc...
And sure you can put a CM on A2.Hell you've got two CM actually,CM10,CM10.1(wait for it CM is about to get official for A2)
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If I remember the thread correctly, the Atrix 2 bootloader is locked, and we cannot get custom kernels for our Atrix 2. Yea, theres all sorts of mods out there, but without the bootloader unlocked we can't get a custom kernel, which, unless I am mistaken, is what I truly need.
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True,bootloader is locked and the bootloader does a verification which doesn't allow custom kernels.But wait that doesn't mean we don't have a cure."kexec" is the method used to bypass that hurdle of verification.It does this by taking over once the stock kernel(the one the damn bootloader looks for)loads and then begins the work of our "kexec-kernel".And it is custom Ofcourse.Read around about kexec it'll give you a better perspective.
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Yea, I've been keeping an eye on custom roms. Mostly waiting for everything to be unlocked before i attempt anything though.
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While it's true that the fruit of patience is sweet,but you know wait too much and the fruit will rot by itself.(You get the point)
IMO this device is not gonna be fully unlocked not in the foreseeable future atleast.So unless you wanna keep using the same phone no matter what era it is,I suggest moving on.
Super simple to get my HTC rooted and unlocked, looks like the atrix 2 is proving to be more difficult. From my understanding: Bootloader is locked, which won't allow for full kernel replacement, just emulation. Full custom rom features require a completely custom kernel, which can't be achieved until the bootloader is unlocked.
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Well the custom kernels we have are not just emulation they are the real deal.True there are few bugs left to be ratified but that's just some fine tuning if you ask me.
If im wrong about this, please explain it to me. I spent 6 months or so researching the do's and dont's, whys and why nots of rooting and unlocking my HTC before i even attempted it.
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Well I think I have walked you through most of the stuff.But seeing you read around for 6 months(really??) I'm gonna tell you a few routes you may take:
1.If you're so skeptical about custom ROMs, kernel etc and from what I see you just need to get rid of those bloatwares.Root your phone and remove them manually.
2.Install a ICS based ROM(Numa,supercharged etc).They are basically same as option 1 except the task has already been done by someone for you.Plus they threw in a few(actually a lot) more goodies which just make you go woooo...
3.Go to the next step of things get a taste of JB and experience the taste of custom kernel.
Of course do it on your own accord, as it's your device and your choice after all.
And do read around and ask before doing anything if you are unsure..
Do follow the instructions carefully...
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Hello,
i´ve researched on this topic for a while now, but the result is confusing.
Everyone tell a different way to root the LG. Half of the threads are too old with expired download link or not working methods.
And there seems to be a problem with the new baseband when the phone is updated to the "new" 2.3.3. stock rom.
I would like to try the "CyanogenMod" first.
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=p500&type=stable
As I am unsure which ROM to choose from the endless variety of custom ROMs and the CyanogenMod seems to be the most reliable solution.
Important is a smooth and fast OS with the possibility to install (every) App to the SD Card.
thx for any help in advance
Any Ideas?
georg2010 said:
Hello,
i´ve researched on this topic for a while now, but the result is confusing.
Everyone tell a different way to root the LG. Half of the threads are too old with expired download link or not working methods.
And there seems to be a problem with the new baseband when the phone is updated to the "new" 2.3.3. stock rom.
I would like to try the "CyanogenMod" first.
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=p500&type=stable
As I am unsure which ROM to choose from the endless variety of custom ROMs and the CyanogenMod seems to be the most reliable solution.
Important is a smooth and fast OS with the possibility to install (every) App to the SD Card.
thx for any help in advance
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Hello georg2010 welcome to Xda! now first off we can start with trying to root your phone, older phones on xda start to loose their links as the days go by but hopefully there are a few still up. for now, i want you to use this method to root it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
From there you are going to go to the play market and download an app called "ClockworkMod ROM Manager", open it as soon as its done and choose to install Clockworkmod recovery,should be the first option, you need to be sure that you select your model only, in this case you told us a LG optimus one p500. once its done it might restart but to make sure it worked try this button combo when your device is turned off: Volume Down + Power + Home
post back when your ready to move on ahead.
Trozzul said:
Hello georg2010 welcome to Xda! now first off we can start with trying to root your phone, older phones on xda start to loose their links as the days go by but hopefully there are a few still up. for now, i want you to use this method to root it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
From there you are going to go to the play market and download an app called "ClockworkMod ROM Manager", open it as soon as its done and choose to install Clockworkmod recovery,should be the first option, you need to be sure that you select your model only, in this case you told us a LG optimus one p500. once its done it might restart but to make sure it worked try this button combo when your device is turned off: Volume Down + Power + Home
post back when your ready to move on ahead.
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Hello,
Yes I remember this software, because I was actually trying to root my phone some months ago already but it never went beyond this point
I think it was this part
When it says: Starting ADB Server...
Turn USB Debugging OFF
Turn USB Debugging ON
Turn USB Debugging OFF
All BEFORE it says "Waiting for device..." again
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where it stuck at "Waiting for device..."
BTW: Is this software clean? I mean some people reportet a virus in "SuperOneClick"
georg2010 said:
Hello,
Yes I remember this software, because I was actually trying to root my phone some months ago already but it never went beyond this point
I think it was this part
where it stuck at "Waiting for device..."
BTW: Is this software clean? I mean some people reportet a virus in "SuperOneClick"
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Yes, the software is clean, most of the time stuff like this people get virus pickups, thousands of people view these forums a day, you would think if it was a real virus it would be Taken down Asap. as for your problem with that program, did you install LG drivers? if not and we still have problems with it, try this instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765 download the APK towards the bottom, should be GingerBreak-v1.20.apk put it on your phone, use a file browser like androzip (personally my favorite its on the google play store) find it and install it. open it and follow the directions, make sure to enable usb debugging in settings first, im sure this one will root your device, it normally roots android 2.1-2.3 easily rooted my LG optimus V (same exact phone as yours different carrier)
Edit: my bad did a little research and it looks like Gingerbreak only works on the 2.2 update, which you have the 2.3.3 update. i would try this also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832485 otherwise try superonelick again.
Trozzul said:
Yes, the software is clean, most of the time stuff like this people get virus pickups, thousands of people view these forums a day, you would think if it was a real virus it would be Taken down Asap. as for your problem with that program, did you install LG drivers? if not and we still have problems with it, try this instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765 download the APK towards the bottom, should be GingerBreak-v1.20.apk put it on your phone, use a file browser like androzip (personally my favorite its on the google play store) find it and install it. open it and follow the directions, make sure to enable usb debugging in settings first, im sure this one will root your device, it normally roots android 2.1-2.3 easily rooted my LG optimus V (same exact phone as yours different carrier)
Edit: my bad did a little research and it looks like Gingerbreak only works on the 2.2 update, which you have the 2.3.3 update. i would try this also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832485 otherwise try superonelick again.
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SuperOneClick 2.3.3. worked at first try.
Installing ClockworkMod now.
Well I wanted to install the recovery, it detected my phone but it says only for old BB, which is the baseband driver I guess.
As it is Android 2.3.3. I guess its the new baseband?!
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Well I wanted to install the recovery, it detected my phone but it says only for old BB, which is the baseband driver I guess.
As it is Android 2.3.3. I guess its the new baseband?!
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i dont quite understand friend, i dont think it should have anything to do with baseband.
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i dont quite understand friend, i dont think it should have anything to do with baseband.
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I just did it,
according to: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/41965-lg-optimus-one-complete-flashing-guide/
5) Press the “Flash Clockworkmod Recovery” option
6) Popup appears, asking for your device; select “LGE Optimus One”
7) Another popup will appear giving two options for the basebands:
- LG Optimus One (This is for new baseband)
- LG Optimus One (Old BB) (This is for old baseband)
I would advise you to select Old BB recovery as its more stable; new baseband may result in semi-brick (Personal Experience)
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So it seems to be irrelevant if I have new or old BB, for this part, my LG still can connect and so its not bricked (yet ). So everything seems to be fine.
Did already a backup of my ROM through clockwork recovery.
So I guess its time to install CM7 now?
georg2010 said:
I just did it,
according to: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/41965-lg-optimus-one-complete-flashing-guide/
So it seems to be irrelevant if I have new or old BB, for this part, my LG still can connect and so its not bricked (yet ). So everything seems to be fine.
Did already a backup of my ROM through clockwork recovery.
So I guess its time to install CM7 now?
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Correct. If your able to get into cwm with no troubles then we can move on. Your going to download cyanogenmod first, for your phone only p500. Then your going to see which version of cyanogenmod you downloaded and download the correct gapps from here http://goo.im/gapps gapps are needed for every rom yoi flash, pretty much it includes all nessesary google items such as gmail and the play store. Put both of these files onto a micro sd card for your phone and your going to first select wipe data, after that choose wipe cache. Once thats finished you are going to select install zip and navigate to where you put the cyanogenmod zip and gapps zip. Flash (fancy way of daying install) the cm7 first, once finished flash the gapps after then reboot if all comes out well.
Trozzul said:
Correct. If your able to get into cwm with no troubles then we can move on. Your going to download cyanogenmod first, for your phone only p500. Then your going to see which version of cyanogenmod you downloaded and download the correct gapps from here http://goo.im/gapps gapps are needed for every rom yoi flash, pretty much it includes all nessesary google items such as gmail and the play store. Put both of these files onto a micro sd card for your phone and your going to first select wipe data, after that choose wipe cache. Once thats finished you are going to select install zip and navigate to where you put the cyanogenmod zip and gapps zip. Flash (fancy way of daying install) the cm7 first, once finished flash the gapps after then reboot if all comes out well.
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Well it seems to work.
In some points not what I ´ve expected (I mean here and there still little lags) and so on. But I guess the fun has just begun, so it need a lot of fine tuning. Maybe I will update from CM7 to a higher one because its obviously still "gingerbread" (if this is recommended regarding the available resources on my P500)
But my goal is at first, to be able to move or install every app directly to the SD card. I would like to know how to do that, I´ve read some tutorials about partitioning the SD card and so on. Do you have to create a separate partition for the "apps"?
Although the 200MB space on my phone was nearly completely unused, (which is great becuase on the stock ROM its nearly full even after factory reset) I still would like to use the space on my 16 GB Sd Card, for this purpose.
The second "nice-to-have" feature would be the ability to install officially not compatible apps on my phone.
For example if I want to install "Threema" it says not compatible device in the market.
georg2010 said:
Well it seems to work.
In some points not what I ´ve expected (I mean here and there still little lags) and so on. But I guess the fun has just begun, so it need a lot of fine tuning. Maybe I will update from CM7 to a higher one because its obviously still "gingerbread" (if this is recommended regarding the available resources on my P500)
But my goal is at first, to be able to move or install every app directly to the SD card. I would like to know how to do that, I´ve read some tutorials about partitioning the SD card and so on. Do you have to create a separate partition for the "apps"?
Although the 200MB space on my phone was nearly completely unused, (which is great becuase on the stock ROM its nearly full even after factory reset) I still would like to use the space on my 16 GB Sd Card, for this purpose.
The second "nice-to-have" feature would be the ability to install officially not compatible apps on my phone.
For example if I want to install "Threema" it says not compatible device in the market.
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Well first off, for your lagging problem, its because the device is a little outdated with its Processor which is clocked at 600 MHz. Cyanogenmod allows you to overclock your device to what they think is a safe Clock speed. honestly when i had Cyanogenmod 7 on my Optimus v (same as p500 different carrier) i don't think i got to overclock it past 700 MHz. now you might be wondering if overclocking is as dangerous as computer overclocking, these phones (CPU's) where meant to get packed into small areas on its motherboard if that makes sense. it is completely safe to overclock (there was a Motorola phone i think was the moto atrix, when it first came out, it was clocked at 1 GHz. the ics update had boosted it up to 1.2 GHz.) the most harm it can do is Reboot when it either what i'm guessing cant handle that clock speed or is just a huge jump from different speeds. so pretty much just boost it 5% at a time until it reboots, to overclock i don't remember where you would be able to find it in cyanogenmod 7, i think it might be in something called cyanogenmod settings, the layout between CM7 vs CM9 and up changed quite a bit. but pretty much just look around for it.
as for your SD card problems, i don't know much about partitioning SD cards i don't do much of that. i think Gingerbread (2.3.X or CM7.X) and down had some weird SD card problems and limited taking apps to the SD card, android 4.0.X and up changed and you had more options but Apps were allowed to dump files everywhere onto your SD card making a mess (this is normally through all android versions Except Kitkat 4.4.x lots of people don't mind it but there are others who like it neat) kitkat fixed this and if i remember right kinda broke our way of making apps go to the SD card, you would have to look that up. i would recommend getting a 4.2.X or 4.3.X rom, personally my favorite versions of android. kitkat was not very impressive, if you don't see any of those just Test 4.0.X roms and up until you get something that is enjoyable. i'm looking around for a smaller gapps so we can give you a little more internal space, these small gapps pretty much give you the things you Really only need to use your phone such as the play market and Google play services, it removes like Gmail and hangouts, you will still be able to download them from the play store if you need them or see something missing.
as for your last question, its not that your phone is not officially compatible its because of your android version, i did some research and threema requires ICS 4.0.X and up so if you want to use this app you need to flash a ics or higher rom. remember every time you want to flash a rom, backup, wipe data, wipe cache, flash rom then gapps. i'm surprised you still own this phone, it is outdated at this point but is still a GREAT phone and im glad some people still use it, it was my first android phone and is still a great phone to this day (even if its sitting on my desk for the rest of its days like the rest of my phones lol). if you get stuck please reply back.
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just ignore me
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Sorry i cant, its against rules to spam to get past the 10 post limit and make you look bad.
Trozzul said:
Well first off, for your lagging problem, its because the device is a little outdated with its Processor which is clocked at 600 MHz. Cyanogenmod allows you to overclock your device to what they think is a safe Clock speed. honestly when i had Cyanogenmod 7 on my Optimus v (same as p500 different carrier) i don't think i got to overclock it past 700 MHz. now you might be wondering if overclocking is as dangerous as computer overclocking, these phones (CPU's) where meant to get packed into small areas on its motherboard if that makes sense. it is completely safe to overclock (there was a Motorola phone i think was the moto atrix, when it first came out, it was clocked at 1 GHz. the ics update had boosted it up to 1.2 GHz.) the most harm it can do is Reboot when it either what i'm guessing cant handle that clock speed or is just a huge jump from different speeds. so pretty much just boost it 5% at a time until it reboots, to overclock i don't remember where you would be able to find it in cyanogenmod 7, i think it might be in something called cyanogenmod settings, the layout between CM7 vs CM9 and up changed quite a bit. but pretty much just look around for it.
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The overclocking indeed helps a bit. I think it depends on the Launcher too.
I´ve installed Go Launcher Ex with a simple theme: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex.theme.cblue
And it works much better.
There is a unofficial CM9 for P500
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Unoff....2C_Thrive_.28P506.29.2C_Optimus_T_.28P509.29
but the thread seems to be closed.
Also I don´t know if I just can pick any ROM available, or if I need a specific port for my device.
i'm looking around for a smaller gapps so we can give you a little more internal space, these small gapps pretty much give you the things you Really only need to use your phone such as the play market and Google play services, it removes like Gmail and hangouts, you will still be able to download them from the play store if you need them or see something missing.
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Thanks this sounds good. I guess this apps cannot be stored on the SD Card. And such like launchers neither. Tried this with Go Launcher Ex, the widgets crashed. - At least if You use the standard way of copying Apps on the SD card through the App manager.
So such performance-relevant stuff should be kept in phone´s storage.
i'm surprised you still own this phone, it is outdated at this point but is still a GREAT phone and im glad some people still use it, it was my first android phone and is still a great phone to this day (even if its sitting on my desk for the rest of its days like the rest of my phones lol)
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Its a combination of circumstances.
The phone is not so outdated that I had a strong desire to give out money for a new one.
And I like the design becuase its "handy". It´s not so small and not too big.
And if there is a free way to get rid of the slow stock rom, and make it a little bit faster... why not?
The today´s phones, like the Samsung S3-5 are way too big, and most importantly too expensive,
the whole system there is sad, you have to pay like 700€ for a new phone and as soon as they bring out a new model, the price drops instantly.
So you ask yourself do you pay for the hardware or for the "image" or whatever? So if I buy a new phone then I will of course always look for the "outdated" models (which are not in my opinion). Like the S2 or S3, where you still have a good performance, for a good price.
The One Plus One is interesting too, another favorite would be Google Nexus or (to stay loyal) some of the LG smartphones like the L70-L90, its maybe not one of the high end smartphones but still sure a nice performance boost.
The only bad thing about the older phones is the low screen resolution.
georg2010 said:
The overclocking indeed helps a bit. I think it depends on the Launcher too.
I´ve installed Go Launcher Ex with a simple theme: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex.theme.cblue
And it works much better.
There is a unofficial CM9 for P500
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Unoff....2C_Thrive_.28P506.29.2C_Optimus_T_.28P509.29
but the thread seems to be closed.
Also I don´t know if I just can pick any ROM available, or if I need a specific port for my device.
Thanks this sounds good. I guess this apps cannot be stored on the SD Card. And such like launchers neither. Tried this with Go Launcher Ex, the widgets crashed. - At least if You use the standard way of copying Apps on the SD card through the App manager.
So such performance-relevant stuff should be kept in phone´s storage.
Its a combination of circumstances.
The phone is not so outdated that I had a strong desire to give out money for a new one.
And I like the design becuase its "handy". It´s not so small and not too big.
And if there is a free way to get rid of the slow stock rom, and make it a little bit faster... why not?
The today´s phones, like the Samsung S3-5 are way too big, and most importantly too expensive,
the whole system there is sad, you have to pay like 700€ for a new phone and as soon as they bring out a new model, the price drops instantly.
So you ask yourself do you pay for the hardware or for the "image" or whatever? So if I buy a new phone then I will of course always look for the "outdated" models (which are not in my opinion). Like the S2 or S3, where you still have a good performance, for a good price.
The One Plus One is interesting too, another favorite would be Google Nexus or (to stay loyal) some of the LG smartphones like the L70-L90, its maybe not one of the high end smartphones but still sure a nice performance boost.
The only bad thing about the older phones is the low screen resolution.
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the original Stock launcher for Cyanogenmod 7 and below was a launcher called ADW launcher, the company or person who made it tends to try to make it as stock android as possible and honestly the version cyanogenmod 7 came with was not very good. i dont think launchers cant be moved to the sd card but widgets sure cant.
your right, you cant pick any rom you want, it has to be specifically built for your own. cyanogenmod is not the only rom type. most of the time unofficial roms will be built upon cyanogenmod or other roms. there are a few others on some newer phones but cyanogenmod is the stablest and if its official updates on bugs come faster. if you want to find more roms, here on xda you always want to go here for your device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/optimus-one/one-development for roms kernels and other modifications.
honestly if you were to find a used Galaxy s2 the specs would be perfectly fine. all variants have a great development community going and should for the new few android versions. what carrier do you have? i would try to get a T989 T-mobile s2 like myself, its pretty great though its a 4.5" ich screen vs your 3.2" screen its not too big, probably the only problem i have with it is the resolution is not the best. a motorola G would be a great replacement aswell, better specs than the s2 (its very close to a s3 benchmark) same screen size and i think it has a better resolution.
as for today's standards you Are paying for image, paying for the brand name (like alienware and dell computers), back then it used to be Hardware, the Nexus one used to have the Best phone specs when it was released. if you look at benchmarks, the Galaxy s4 vs the s5 there is not much of a difference. i myself am interested in the oneplus one device but the only problem is that invite system. im also thinking of grabing a LG L90, great price for its specs which are the same as the moto g so pretty much as close to a s3.
Its hard to choose but I will give this one a try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409107
what carrier do you have?
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O2
but I don´t really care about carrier, ´cause I use a prepaid card. Which work with every phone. And would buy only a sim-lock free phone.
georg2010 said:
Its hard to choose but I will give this one a try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409107
O2
but I don´t really care about carrier, ´cause I use a prepaid card. Which work with every phone. And would buy only a sim-lock free phone.
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be sure to read most of the thread looking for special requirements, some roms like this one dont need a gapps.
Trozzul said:
be sure to read most of the thread looking for special requirements, some roms like this one dont need a gapps.
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Yes saw this already.
btw. deleted this already,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409107
.. not so smooth and screen was not so good, in the menues on the small display.
Flashed this now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811325
which is coming closer to that what I´ve expected..
Although I´ve trouble with the non-functional home button, someone suggested here, to re-flash the ROM, but Cyanogen and Gapp separately.
Will try this now.
Also I am considering to try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096721
But not sure if there are any major bugs or something.
This is the 4.2.X you suggested. Can´t find 4.3.X though.
What is the difference between them?
Maybe you can suggest one specific rom.
georg2010 said:
Yes saw this already.
btw. deleted this already,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409107
.. not so smooth and screen was not so good, in the menues on the small display.
Flashed this now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811325
which is coming closer to that what I´ve expected..
Although I´ve trouble with the non-functional home button, someone suggested here, to re-flash the ROM, but Cyanogen and Gapp separately.
Will try this now.
Also I am considering to try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096721
But not sure if there are any major bugs or something.
This is the 4.2.X you suggested. Can´t find 4.3.X though.
What is the difference between them?
Maybe you can suggest one specific rom.
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i cant sugesst you a rom because i dont own the phone, i could look through the forums and show you one to test out but thats about it, 4.2.X and 4.3.X have just minor ui updates that can come in handy, just test a bunch of 4.1.X and 4.2.X and you can see the difference, i think 4.2.X added camera to the lockscreen and dropdown status bar different ui. you can check here to see some of the differences http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history