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Any advantage to rooting if you just want simple?

Overall, I am happy with my phone. Use it mostly for e-mail, websurfing, various apps. Don't need to play around with settings, etc. It just works.
I am interested in possibly rooting, but frankly, I don't want to spend a lot of time on tweaks, loading ROMS, etc. I just want to use my phone.
If I root without loading a new rom, what are some of the advantages?
I know that I can remove some bloatware, but unless it significantly increases battery life, then it doesn't really matter to me. Will removing bloatware do anything significant to battery life?
I am already SIM unlocked (I called AT&T, and they gave me the code to unlock).
Any other advantages?
I have rooted my wife's NOOK with CM7, and while I like it, there are issues like the Sleep of Death (SOD), occasional lag, etc., that I really don't want to deal with on my phone. I need it to work without any glitches, or constant fiddling.
My guess is I should probably stay unrooted, but wanted to see if anyone can educate me whether there are any benefits in my situation.
Thanks!

f308gt4 said:
Overall, I am happy with my phone. Use it mostly for e-mail, websurfing, various apps. Don't need to play around with settings, etc. It just works.
I am interested in possibly rooting, but frankly, I don't want to spend a lot of time on tweaks, loading ROMS, etc. I just want to use my phone.
If I root without loading a new rom, what are some of the advantages?
I know that I can remove some bloatware, but unless it significantly increases battery life, then it doesn't really matter to me. Will removing bloatware do anything significant to battery life?
I am already SIM unlocked (I called AT&T, and they gave me the code to unlock).
Any other advantages?
I have rooted my wife's NOOK with CM7, and while I like it, there are issues like the Sleep of Death (SOD), occasional lag, etc., that I really don't want to deal with on my phone. I need it to work without any glitches, or constant fiddling.
My guess is I should probably stay unrooted, but wanted to see if anyone can educate me whether there are any benefits in my situation.
Thanks!
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Let's start with the basics, please search before posting. The advantages of rooting and disadvantages are well documented in numerous threads. It sounds like to me your phone is what you want/need it to be so why change it? If you are explicitly telling me you don't want to spend time flashing ROMs and tweaking the Inspire then I'm telling you its in your best interest not root.
Simply put, every custom ROM on here has its issues. No ROM is perfect, certain things work while others don't and its on you to figure out what you can or cannot live with. The only way to do that is by testing ROMs which brings me back to your statement that you don't want to spend time flashing ROMs and all that stuff..if you don't want to spend time doing this, rooting is not your journey.
Battery life is subjective, overall yes, most rooters see an increase in battery life, how much is subjective. I get 28 hours on one charge while others get 6. The difference? The user and what they do with the phone. My opinion for you is that don't root, you sound content with everything the inspire is.
Devil's advocate though, your inspire could be soo much more.

if you dont know what you want root for, then you dont need to root

if you want simple, do not root. It is not an easier path to walk on. It has its bumps and glitches. Sometimes you have a bad flash or download and have to redo it, or youll forget to back up something and now your sms messages are gone. If you arent ready to dig deeper into the phone and learn and also make it do more than stay as it is, no shame in that. Hes right, if you arent SURE you need to root than you shouldnt because the gains wont be noticed. I think most of us have had an almost brick experience at some point in time, be mentally prepared lol
once i had my phone run good all night, once i got to work it just died. was a bad flash and it didnt show its ugly head till the next day so i had to wait till i got home to fix it properly. lol gave me twitches not having my phone lol

f308gt4 said:
I am interested in possibly rooting, but frankly, I don't want to spend a lot of time on tweaks, loading ROMS, etc. I just want to use my phone.
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While I agree with the posts made here already that suggest rooting may not be for you, there are a couple significant advantages which you may want to consider.
Probably the first biggest advantage from my point of view is to remove the 'spyware' (Carrier IQ) present on most factory ROMs. That's HUGE for me. I have enough government intrusion into my life, I don't need any more. Another element is that - at least on my ROM (Virtuous Unity or Affinity) that they have done an excellent job of blocking ad intrusions.
There are also some applications which require root access, though most of them are system utilities (like Titanium Backup) which you wouldn't be using if you don't intend to experiment with different ROMs.
If I'm not mistaken, there's a path to go back to the OEM (factory) ROM, however you will need to be cautious with how you back up and restore the data you need. However it's something to consider if you felt like you wanted to kick the tires while still being able to go back to stock.
As with anything else in life, there are pros and cons. At this point most ROMs are fairly stable for the Inspire, so you probably won't be at a disadvantage, but if the one thing you need on the one ROM you like is the one thing that doesn't work and it's the one thing you can't live without, then don't do it. Read the documentation for each ROM and you'll know what to do.

I rooted my wife's Inspire so that I could get rid of unwanted AT&T and HTC apps and get rid of Carrier IQ.
The result has been better battery life and no prompts/notifications for updates to apps that were installed as system apps but that I have removed. I believe that the phone runs smoother without the stuff that was running in the background.
She really does not see any difference (except the battery life) in her everyday use.

marvin02 said:
I rooted my wife's Inspire so that I could get rid of unwanted AT&T and HTC apps and get rid of Carrier IQ.
The result has been better battery life and no prompts/notifications for updates to apps that were installed as system apps but that I have removed. I believe that the phone runs smoother without the stuff that was running in the background.
She really does not see any difference (except the battery life) in her everyday use.
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Did you install a different ROM, or just keep the stock (except for the rooted part) and delete the bloatware? How much of a difference did it make in the battery life?
Thanks!

Pirateghost said:
if you dont know what you want root for, then you dont need to root
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Agreed here. Rooting requires learning more in depth capabilities about your phone. If you are content with the status quo, why complicate?

f308gt4 said:
Did you install a different ROM, or just keep the stock (except for the rooted part) and delete the bloatware? How much of a difference did it make in the battery life?
Thanks!
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No change in ROM. Battery usually has better than 50% at night when she goes to bed. She unplugs at 5 AM and usually it's back on the charger around 10 PM. Before it was at about 30% most nights.
I also believe that it uses less background data.

Root that ***** n throw a couple ROMs on there to play with. Ever since I've roted my phone a while ago I can't stop playing with new ROMs as they cone out.

Forgive me if I'm wrong but I thought that thisbphone never had carrier iq
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App

Well, I went against the good advice offered here and rooted.
I used the Ace Hack Kit, with Ubuntu, which worked perfectly as expected.
I have not installed any ROM's, as I think I will just try to remove any bloatware, etc to see if the phone battery life increases.
Any suggestions as to what to remove (I am trying a search as we speak)?
Thanks!

f308gt4 said:
Well, I went against the good advice offered here and rooted.
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Generally, I'd suggest removing anything that's carrier-specific. Those apps tend to be better for them than they are for you. To do so, I'd recommend a couple utilities that will help you in your experimentation.
1) Titanium Backup. Good for removing bloatware, when you decide what it is you don't need or want.
2) ROM Manager / Clockwork. Great for downloading ROMs and managing backups from the Android interface.
Part of what might be draining your batter is Carrier IQ, but that's not something easily dug out. You'd do better to just install a ROM that's had it expertly removed. I'd suggest either Virtuous Unity or Virtuous Affinity.

The Inspire was not released w/CIQ.

Tx Redneck said:
The Inspire was not released w/CIQ.
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Better safe than sorry, I suppose.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using Tapatalk

Sigh. All was well with my phone, and I had taken the case off to clean it. I was in the back yard with the phone, and boom, I dropped it on the patio. Landed face down and screen cracked.
I guess I'll be looking for a new phone now.
Thanks for all of your help!

f308gt4 said:
Overall, I am happy with my phone. Use it mostly for e-mail, websurfing, various apps. Don't need to play around with settings, etc. It just works.
I am interested in possibly rooting, but frankly, I don't want to spend a lot of time on tweaks, loading ROMS, etc. I just want to use my phone.
If I root without loading a new rom, what are some of the advantages?
I know that I can remove some bloatware, but unless it significantly increases battery life, then it doesn't really matter to me. Will removing bloatware do anything significant to battery life?
I am already SIM unlocked (I called AT&T, and they gave me the code to unlock).
Any other advantages?
I have rooted my wife's NOOK with CM7, and while I like it, there are issues like the Sleep of Death (SOD), occasional lag, etc., that I really don't want to deal with on my phone. I need it to work without any glitches, or constant fiddling.
My guess is I should probably stay unrooted, but wanted to see if anyone can educate me whether there are any benefits in my situation.
Thanks!
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Removing bloat is advantageous to battery life, but the best feature IMO is AdFree Android. It , which removes ALL ads, in the browser or in the apps. It makes browsing and apps faster and cleaner.

f308gt4 said:
Sigh. All was well with my phone, and I had taken the case off to clean it. I was in the back yard with the phone, and boom, I dropped it on the patio. Landed face down and screen cracked.
I guess I'll be looking for a new phone now.
Thanks for all of your help!
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just go on craigs list and find a local repair shop. the same thign happened to me, $100 and she's brand new again

IHTFP12 said:
Removing bloat is advantageous to battery life, but the best feature IMO is AdFree Android. It , which removes ALL ads, in the browser or in the apps. It makes browsing and apps faster and cleaner.
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No, the best feature is the fact you get full control of the device you purchased, anything else is secondary.

Root if for no other reason than to install CWM and keep up to date nandroid backups of your oem rom. It's always nice to have a quick solution in case something bad ever happens.
Plus, a lot of cool apps require root access.
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Reason to root/custom Rom?

I've had a droid eris back in the day and that practically required a custom Rom in order to run well...with the s3 which has better stats than some of the computers I work with...what IS the advantage of rooting or using a custom Rom? We can install apks from unknown sources without root(sadly my nook tablet had to be rooted to do that)...we can disable most if not all the bloatware without root...we have plenty of on board storage so no absolute need to delete even the bloatware....just curious as to why you do root? Is it just the "geek"thing to do? Is the battery life that much better? Can't see it being much faster...I do however appreciate all the work people are doing developing for this device as I believe it will extend its life...so without further ado give me your reasons why you root/custom Rom....specifically this device?
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I root to use ad free, titanium backup, some of the extra features in tasker and occasionally Wi-Fi tether. Roms also bring features that were left out such as a brightness slider in the notifications, jelly bean animations and further optimizations are usually included. Plus there are those countless mods and themes that take care of your minor annoyances, and set your color/icon preferences just right.
Overall it makes a great phone even better
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First of all this should be In q&a but besides that customs roms from this phone will 1. Get you better battery life 2. Give you features that are desired from other phones 3. Give more customization options to the user 4. Well I mean better performance but its already blazing fast so its not too noticeable
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Feel free to move this thread if it should be in q&a....and ty for the responses already I'm still debating on rooting/roming my phone(even though my nook tablet I rooted/cm9 installed it the moment I got it lol) she some reason I'm more cautious with this a device than any other but from what I've read and what you all have said the advantages of rooting and using a custom Rom still apply even for as beefy a device as the g3....maybe I'll get bored later and try it out...another ? that may have been answered..does the k exec kernel lock out one of the cores? Thought I saw someone say that
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That picture is the main reason I root. Granted that is mostly standby but it is still amazing. I also like to use AdFree Android to get rid of any ads that may come up on my device. With this phone you mentioned it can't get much smoother and I agree. I am currently running a custom kernel with the Synergy ROM and I have my phone underclocked to 1.1GHz and it feels like it is still on stock because of what Synergy did to make the phone faster. Saves on battery A LOT in my opinion. If you are on the fence about rooting and ROMing I say go for it. The worst that will happen is you don't see the need and you Odin back to stock which will take you about 10 minutes. :laugh:

Excessiveidling said:
Feel free to move this thread if it should be in q&a....and ty for the responses already I'm still debating on rooting/roming my phone(even though my nook tablet I rooted/cm9 installed it the moment I got it lol) she some reason I'm more cautious with this a device than any other but from what I've read and what you all have said the advantages of rooting and using a custom Rom still apply even for as beefy a device as the g3....maybe I'll get bored later and try it out...another ? that may have been answered..does the k exec kernel lock out one of the cores? Thought I saw someone say that
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The rooting process for this phone is pain free and only takes a couple of minutes. At the very least, I would say root it and play around with some of the mods. I went about a week after I got my phone going stock/rooted and it was great, but Bean's Rom and Synergy are both fantastic.
And fwiw, kexec doesn't lock out a core.

Originally, my sole reason for rooting was to get rid of that annoying Verizon wifi notification/add back the wifi toggle.
In the process, I discovered SynergyROM, which seems promising. It has lots of customization options, including being able to choose which toggle you have. Not to mention, it also boosts you data/wifi speeds and gives phenomenal battery life.
Honestly, if I were on AT&T or some other network that didn't have the BS wifi notification, I wouldn't even have bothered rooting until my second year into the device, like I did with my Droid Eris.
On a side note: whoohoo! Ex Droid Eris buddy!

Actual Root
Relentless D said:
The rooting process for this phone is pain free and only takes a couple of minutes. At the very least, I would say root it and play around with some of the mods. I went about a week after I got my phone going stock/rooted and it was great, but Bean's Rom and Synergy are both fantastic.
And fwiw, kexec doesn't lock out a core.
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Are you referring to the work around root? And if so, will the work around yield the same results as having actually rooted the phone? I'm asking this cause I was under the impression Verizon still has the boot loader locked.

mal001 said:
Are you referring to the work around root? And if so, will the work around yield the same results as having actually rooted the phone? I'm asking this cause I was under the impression Verizon still has the boot loader locked.
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The Bootloader is still locked but you don't need it unlocked to root. There are workarounds (Kexec) for flashing roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792342&

Relentless D said:
The Bootloader is still locked but you don't need it unlocked to root. There are workarounds (Kexec) for flashing roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792342&
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You can flash Custom ROMs without kexec. You need to use kexec to flash custom kernels. Assuming you consider ROMs like synergy custom and don't only consider AOSP ROMs custom.

Haro912 said:
You can flash Custom ROMs without kexec. You need to use kexec to flash custom kernels. Assuming you consider ROMs like synergy custom and don't only consider AOSP ROMs custom.
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True. But despite my poor wording the point was that the locked bootloader doesn't mean we can't flash roms

Relentless D said:
True. But despite my poor wording the point was that the locked bootloader doesn't mean we can't flash roms
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Yeah I know I just didn't want someone thinking they had to understand kexec to flash a TW rom with the stock kernel.

miui
Haro912 said:
Yeah I know I just didn't want someone thinking they had to understand kexec to flash a TW rom with the stock kernel.
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I habe rooted my s3 To be able To install miui which I think is the most beautiful Rom for the android

Excessiveidling said:
I've had a droid eris back in the day and that practically required a custom Rom in order to run well...with the s3 which has better stats than some of the computers I work with...what IS the advantage of rooting or using a custom Rom? We can install apks from unknown sources without root(sadly my nook tablet had to be rooted to do that)...we can disable most if not all the bloatware without root...we have plenty of on board storage so no absolute need to delete even the bloatware....just curious as to why you do root? Is it just the "geek"thing to do? Is the battery life that much better? Can't see it being much faster...I do however appreciate all the work people are doing developing for this device as I believe it will extend its life...so without further ado give me your reasons why you root/custom Rom....specifically this device?
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To get rid of the 'ongoing' wifi notification and put back the wifi toggle back in there too. That was my sole reason and have actually been okay with touchwiz so far.

I rooted to get root explorer
I would have left it alone but cut and paste self-corrupted and I needed root explorer to fix this
Since I was rooted anyway, I decided to install a rom to eliminate the wi fi notification too

asmallchild said:
I rooted to get root explorer
I would have left it alone but cut and paste self-corrupted and I needed root explorer to fix this
Since I was rooted anyway, I decided to install a rom to eliminate the wi fi notification too
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I had my S3 all of a day before I got the root itch. And that was after having an original moto droid rooted for over 2+ years.
I just like knowing I have the extra control if I need it.

Google now
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dunderball said:
To get rid of the 'ongoing' wifi notification and put back the wifi toggle back in there too. That was my sole reason and have actually been okay with touchwiz so far.
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You can get rid of the wifi notification without rooting.*#6335623#
There, now no reason to root

My BIGGEST reason for rooting is because of updates. Anyone notice how the phones from the manufacturers just keep coming out back to back? I am tired of the fact that i can go buy a new just released phone, and before the first year is out, it seems the manufacturer quits updating the software. for example, if ICS came with the phone, unless it is the flagship phone, majority of the phones will not see a JB version. Even if the phone has not even been out for a year ( still under the 1 year warranty). this to me is BS, i think that they should be required to update all the software (assuming the HW can handle it) at least during the warranty period. they seem to just want you to buy a new phone to get the software. Rooting usually allows me to have access to the tools to update the phone myself through another Rom. I also like to have choices.

xsteven77x said:
You can get rid of the wifi notification without rooting.*#6335623#
There, now no reason to root
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That doesn't "get rid of" the wifi notification it disables it. It's still there, regardless of whether wifi is turned on or off, but now it just does nothing when you press on it. Personally, if it's going to be there either way, I'd rather it actually do something.
Getting to the original question:
Although I haven't rooted yet (I like to ride out my warranty first), here are the top reasons why I would do it:
- AdAway
- Titanium Backup
- Fully Functional Nova Launcher (read: widgets in drawer)
- ROMs & Mods
On my old Incredible, it was more for AdAway, Titianium, and other root-needing apps. Only later once ICS came out did I really dive into new ROMS.
This phone on the other hand, needs a new ROM right away! There are just too many things that piss me off about TouchWiz.
Things like:
- No Screenshot in Power Menu
- Toggles in notification pane not configurable
- Ongoing Wifi Notification instead of a Toggle
- No brightness slider in notification pane
- Manual arrangement of icons in a folder doesn't stick for more than a week
- App drawer icon isn't centered
- "Audio Applications" menu that shows up in notification pane when headphone are connected can't be configured to show apps I actually use
- No audio controls on lockscreen (standard lockscreen)
- Audio doesn't pause automatically when I unplug my headphones
- Audio sometimes starts up randomly when I plug in my headphones
- Audio volume steps down to ~85% when plugging in headphones
- Headphones/Speakers have separate volumes
And those are just the things that come to mind immediately.

[Q] Htc one x att variant Ram usage

I recently installed the venom 3.1 still have stock kernel. I was wondering about the ram usage. Mine usually runs at about 700-750mb out of 1gb. It is currently at 782mb out of 1gb. Running are google search, DM, android core apps, Maps, Social manager, talk, tasks, picasa uploader, notes, and stocks. Most of these apps I dont even use like picasa, talk, tasks, and stocks. I was just wondering if this is normal? I also have my Minfree settings to ultimate. If this is not normal what are the solutions?
I found a thread that has a like question. No answer. Just more data. A lot of people seem to be wondering if it is normal for just normal operations to be taking up 75% of your ram.

travispittman said:
I recently installed the venom 3.1 still have stock kernel. I was wondering about the ram usage. Mine usually runs at about 700-750mb out of 1gb. It is currently at 782mb out of 1gb. Running are google search, DM, android core apps, Maps, Social manager, talk, tasks, picasa uploader, notes, and stocks. Most of these apps I dont even use like picasa, talk, tasks, and stocks. I was just wondering if this is normal? I also have my Minfree settings to ultimate. If this is not normal what are the solutions?
I found a thread that has a like question. No answer. Just more data. A lot of people seem to be wondering if it is normal for just normal operations to be taking up 75% of your ram.
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It is not getting any better. It is getting worse. Without installing anything new I am now hanging around 900mb and things are starting to get laggy homescreen and apps both are glitchy any one else have a problem like this.

How does your phone run? Did you tweak things and have you rebooted?
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ToxicWaste said:
How does your phone run? Did you tweak things and have you rebooted?
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it runs fine besides it being a little choppy i have rebooted it several times........The only thing i have tweaked is the minfree and venom settings like htc sense lock screens and icon packs, status bar tweaks and thats about it. I have never used picasa which is always in my current app list along with a few others...maps is always in there too. its getting quite annoying. I didnt have my phone stock for very long so i dont have a base to compare from. but this is just ridiculous.

travispittman said:
it runs fine besides it being a little choppy i have rebooted it several times........The only thing i have tweaked is the minfree and venom settings like htc sense lock screens and icon packs, status bar tweaks and thats about it. I have never used picasa which is always in my current app list along with a few others...maps is always in there too. its getting quite annoying. I didnt have my phone stock for very long so i dont have a base to compare from. but this is just ridiculous.
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When you went through the installer, did you put Google Now on too? You also could've unchecked a ton of apps you didn't want (I know you know this) but you could go back through and get rid of more apps you don't want and even de-Sense it more. You may just want to re flash and start over. I've had great success so far with this rom. Turge went above and beyond this time.
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ToxicWaste said:
When you went through the installer, did you put Google Now on too? You also could've unchecked a ton of apps you didn't want (I know you know this) but you could go back through and get rid of more apps you don't want and even de-Sense it more. You may just want to re flash and start over. I've had great success so far with this rom. Turge went above and beyond this time.
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Yeah I know I really like the rom that is why i am trying to fix it instead of flashing something else. I am going to try and re-flash, I will update shortly.

travispittman said:
Yeah I know I really like the rom that is why i am trying to fix it instead of flashing something else. I am going to try and re-flash, I will update shortly.
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Just reflashed and i took of sense and went with apex what else can I get rid of that uses memory. BTW it is a lot smoother now and i hangs out around 740mb

Good bye Galaxy S4 and HELLOOO Nexus 5

I just took a gamble and canceled my Verizon account and switched to AT&T just to get the Nexus 5. I must say I do not miss the S4 one bit. Google made it so easy to root and unlock the bootloader. The phone is incredibly fast! I like how its simple to use. An example is the camera. You open it and shoot pictures. Samsung camera had so many different features that just wanted needed and probably bogged down the phone.
Now that I have my phone setup I just wanted to see if theres anything you guys recommend. I am rooted with the bootloader unlocked but I kept the stock rom. With the stock rom I got Gravity box to let me customize the rom to my liking. I also got greenify(donate version).
Is there anything in particular you guys recommend?
Heres a list of apps Im using.
Weather:1Weather
Launcher:Nova Launcher
File Browser:Solid Explorer
Backup:Titanium Backup
Power Toggles
Do you guys recommend anything else useful or cool? Am I wrong for not wanting to do roms? I just want the most stable I can get. Ive noticed in the past that once you start romming that things become unstable.

ponzi314 said:
I just took a gamble and canceled my Verizon account and switched to AT&T just to get the Nexus 5. I must say I do not miss the S4 one bit. Google made it so easy to root and unlock the bootloader. The phone is incredibly fast! I like how its simple to use. An example is the camera. You open it and shoot pictures. Samsung camera had so many different features that just wanted needed and probably bogged down the phone.
Now that I have my phone setup I just wanted to see if theres anything you guys recommend. I am rooted with the bootloader unlocked but I kept the stock rom. With the stock rom I got Gravity box to let me customize the rom to my liking. I also got greenify(donate version).
Is there anything in particular you guys recommend?
Heres a list of apps Im using.
Weather:1Weather
Launcher:Nova Launcher
File Browser:Solid Explorer
Backup:Titanium Backup
Power Toggles
Do you guys recommend anything else useful or cool? Am I wrong for not wanting to do roms? I just want the most stable I can get. Ive noticed in the past that once you start romming that things become unstable.
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There's nothing wrong with flashing a ROM. Makes the phone far more customizable and in most cases, improves performance. If you don't like it just revert back.
A root app I would recommend is 'Greenify'. Some people believe it is useless, however on my old single core phone, it was quite dramatic. So you might as well use it.
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james1196 said:
There's nothing wrong with flashing a ROM. Makes the phone far more customizable and in most cases, improves performance. If you don't like it just revert back.
A root app I would recommend is 'Greenify'. Some people believe it is useless, however on my old single core phone, it was quite dramatic. So you might as well use it.
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Yea i got the donate version of that. Mainly because one night i charged phone to 100% and unplugged it. In the morning it was at 75% I was shocked. I put greenify on there and did the same thing. What a difference. Work up with 97% battery.

Congrats I did the same but went with tmo about 9 months ago. So happy!
Check out xposed and the module gravity box. It's all I run. It's all you need to run (imo).... Root required but I use stock Google rom with stock kernel. No need for custom kernels or roms (imo)
Fwiw I don't use anything else. No need to greenify anything (again imo)
Nexus5

[Q] How to root the LG P500 with stock rom 2.3.3

Hello,
i´ve researched on this topic for a while now, but the result is confusing.
Everyone tell a different way to root the LG. Half of the threads are too old with expired download link or not working methods.
And there seems to be a problem with the new baseband when the phone is updated to the "new" 2.3.3. stock rom.
I would like to try the "CyanogenMod" first.
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=p500&type=stable
As I am unsure which ROM to choose from the endless variety of custom ROMs and the CyanogenMod seems to be the most reliable solution.
Important is a smooth and fast OS with the possibility to install (every) App to the SD Card.
thx for any help in advance

Any Ideas?

georg2010 said:
Hello,
i´ve researched on this topic for a while now, but the result is confusing.
Everyone tell a different way to root the LG. Half of the threads are too old with expired download link or not working methods.
And there seems to be a problem with the new baseband when the phone is updated to the "new" 2.3.3. stock rom.
I would like to try the "CyanogenMod" first.
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=p500&type=stable
As I am unsure which ROM to choose from the endless variety of custom ROMs and the CyanogenMod seems to be the most reliable solution.
Important is a smooth and fast OS with the possibility to install (every) App to the SD Card.
thx for any help in advance
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Hello georg2010 welcome to Xda! now first off we can start with trying to root your phone, older phones on xda start to loose their links as the days go by but hopefully there are a few still up. for now, i want you to use this method to root it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
From there you are going to go to the play market and download an app called "ClockworkMod ROM Manager", open it as soon as its done and choose to install Clockworkmod recovery,should be the first option, you need to be sure that you select your model only, in this case you told us a LG optimus one p500. once its done it might restart but to make sure it worked try this button combo when your device is turned off: Volume Down + Power + Home
post back when your ready to move on ahead.

Trozzul said:
Hello georg2010 welcome to Xda! now first off we can start with trying to root your phone, older phones on xda start to loose their links as the days go by but hopefully there are a few still up. for now, i want you to use this method to root it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
From there you are going to go to the play market and download an app called "ClockworkMod ROM Manager", open it as soon as its done and choose to install Clockworkmod recovery,should be the first option, you need to be sure that you select your model only, in this case you told us a LG optimus one p500. once its done it might restart but to make sure it worked try this button combo when your device is turned off: Volume Down + Power + Home
post back when your ready to move on ahead.
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Hello,
Yes I remember this software, because I was actually trying to root my phone some months ago already but it never went beyond this point
I think it was this part
When it says: Starting ADB Server...
Turn USB Debugging OFF
Turn USB Debugging ON
Turn USB Debugging OFF
All BEFORE it says "Waiting for device..." again
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where it stuck at "Waiting for device..."
BTW: Is this software clean? I mean some people reportet a virus in "SuperOneClick"

georg2010 said:
Hello,
Yes I remember this software, because I was actually trying to root my phone some months ago already but it never went beyond this point
I think it was this part
where it stuck at "Waiting for device..."
BTW: Is this software clean? I mean some people reportet a virus in "SuperOneClick"
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Yes, the software is clean, most of the time stuff like this people get virus pickups, thousands of people view these forums a day, you would think if it was a real virus it would be Taken down Asap. as for your problem with that program, did you install LG drivers? if not and we still have problems with it, try this instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765 download the APK towards the bottom, should be GingerBreak-v1.20.apk put it on your phone, use a file browser like androzip (personally my favorite its on the google play store) find it and install it. open it and follow the directions, make sure to enable usb debugging in settings first, im sure this one will root your device, it normally roots android 2.1-2.3 easily rooted my LG optimus V (same exact phone as yours different carrier)
Edit: my bad did a little research and it looks like Gingerbreak only works on the 2.2 update, which you have the 2.3.3 update. i would try this also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832485 otherwise try superonelick again.

Trozzul said:
Yes, the software is clean, most of the time stuff like this people get virus pickups, thousands of people view these forums a day, you would think if it was a real virus it would be Taken down Asap. as for your problem with that program, did you install LG drivers? if not and we still have problems with it, try this instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765 download the APK towards the bottom, should be GingerBreak-v1.20.apk put it on your phone, use a file browser like androzip (personally my favorite its on the google play store) find it and install it. open it and follow the directions, make sure to enable usb debugging in settings first, im sure this one will root your device, it normally roots android 2.1-2.3 easily rooted my LG optimus V (same exact phone as yours different carrier)
Edit: my bad did a little research and it looks like Gingerbreak only works on the 2.2 update, which you have the 2.3.3 update. i would try this also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832485 otherwise try superonelick again.
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SuperOneClick 2.3.3. worked at first try.
Installing ClockworkMod now.

Well I wanted to install the recovery, it detected my phone but it says only for old BB, which is the baseband driver I guess.
As it is Android 2.3.3. I guess its the new baseband?!

georg2010 said:
Well I wanted to install the recovery, it detected my phone but it says only for old BB, which is the baseband driver I guess.
As it is Android 2.3.3. I guess its the new baseband?!
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i dont quite understand friend, i dont think it should have anything to do with baseband.

Trozzul said:
i dont quite understand friend, i dont think it should have anything to do with baseband.
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I just did it,
according to: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/41965-lg-optimus-one-complete-flashing-guide/
5) Press the “Flash Clockworkmod Recovery” option
6) Popup appears, asking for your device; select “LGE Optimus One”
7) Another popup will appear giving two options for the basebands:
- LG Optimus One (This is for new baseband)
- LG Optimus One (Old BB) (This is for old baseband)
I would advise you to select Old BB recovery as its more stable; new baseband may result in semi-brick (Personal Experience)
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So it seems to be irrelevant if I have new or old BB, for this part, my LG still can connect and so its not bricked (yet ). So everything seems to be fine.
Did already a backup of my ROM through clockwork recovery.
So I guess its time to install CM7 now?

georg2010 said:
I just did it,
according to: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/41965-lg-optimus-one-complete-flashing-guide/
So it seems to be irrelevant if I have new or old BB, for this part, my LG still can connect and so its not bricked (yet ). So everything seems to be fine.
Did already a backup of my ROM through clockwork recovery.
So I guess its time to install CM7 now?
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Correct. If your able to get into cwm with no troubles then we can move on. Your going to download cyanogenmod first, for your phone only p500. Then your going to see which version of cyanogenmod you downloaded and download the correct gapps from here http://goo.im/gapps gapps are needed for every rom yoi flash, pretty much it includes all nessesary google items such as gmail and the play store. Put both of these files onto a micro sd card for your phone and your going to first select wipe data, after that choose wipe cache. Once thats finished you are going to select install zip and navigate to where you put the cyanogenmod zip and gapps zip. Flash (fancy way of daying install) the cm7 first, once finished flash the gapps after then reboot if all comes out well.

Trozzul said:
Correct. If your able to get into cwm with no troubles then we can move on. Your going to download cyanogenmod first, for your phone only p500. Then your going to see which version of cyanogenmod you downloaded and download the correct gapps from here http://goo.im/gapps gapps are needed for every rom yoi flash, pretty much it includes all nessesary google items such as gmail and the play store. Put both of these files onto a micro sd card for your phone and your going to first select wipe data, after that choose wipe cache. Once thats finished you are going to select install zip and navigate to where you put the cyanogenmod zip and gapps zip. Flash (fancy way of daying install) the cm7 first, once finished flash the gapps after then reboot if all comes out well.
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Well it seems to work.
In some points not what I ´ve expected (I mean here and there still little lags) and so on. But I guess the fun has just begun, so it need a lot of fine tuning. Maybe I will update from CM7 to a higher one because its obviously still "gingerbread" (if this is recommended regarding the available resources on my P500)
But my goal is at first, to be able to move or install every app directly to the SD card. I would like to know how to do that, I´ve read some tutorials about partitioning the SD card and so on. Do you have to create a separate partition for the "apps"?
Although the 200MB space on my phone was nearly completely unused, (which is great becuase on the stock ROM its nearly full even after factory reset) I still would like to use the space on my 16 GB Sd Card, for this purpose.
The second "nice-to-have" feature would be the ability to install officially not compatible apps on my phone.
For example if I want to install "Threema" it says not compatible device in the market.

georg2010 said:
Well it seems to work.
In some points not what I ´ve expected (I mean here and there still little lags) and so on. But I guess the fun has just begun, so it need a lot of fine tuning. Maybe I will update from CM7 to a higher one because its obviously still "gingerbread" (if this is recommended regarding the available resources on my P500)
But my goal is at first, to be able to move or install every app directly to the SD card. I would like to know how to do that, I´ve read some tutorials about partitioning the SD card and so on. Do you have to create a separate partition for the "apps"?
Although the 200MB space on my phone was nearly completely unused, (which is great becuase on the stock ROM its nearly full even after factory reset) I still would like to use the space on my 16 GB Sd Card, for this purpose.
The second "nice-to-have" feature would be the ability to install officially not compatible apps on my phone.
For example if I want to install "Threema" it says not compatible device in the market.
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Well first off, for your lagging problem, its because the device is a little outdated with its Processor which is clocked at 600 MHz. Cyanogenmod allows you to overclock your device to what they think is a safe Clock speed. honestly when i had Cyanogenmod 7 on my Optimus v (same as p500 different carrier) i don't think i got to overclock it past 700 MHz. now you might be wondering if overclocking is as dangerous as computer overclocking, these phones (CPU's) where meant to get packed into small areas on its motherboard if that makes sense. it is completely safe to overclock (there was a Motorola phone i think was the moto atrix, when it first came out, it was clocked at 1 GHz. the ics update had boosted it up to 1.2 GHz.) the most harm it can do is Reboot when it either what i'm guessing cant handle that clock speed or is just a huge jump from different speeds. so pretty much just boost it 5% at a time until it reboots, to overclock i don't remember where you would be able to find it in cyanogenmod 7, i think it might be in something called cyanogenmod settings, the layout between CM7 vs CM9 and up changed quite a bit. but pretty much just look around for it.
as for your SD card problems, i don't know much about partitioning SD cards i don't do much of that. i think Gingerbread (2.3.X or CM7.X) and down had some weird SD card problems and limited taking apps to the SD card, android 4.0.X and up changed and you had more options but Apps were allowed to dump files everywhere onto your SD card making a mess (this is normally through all android versions Except Kitkat 4.4.x lots of people don't mind it but there are others who like it neat) kitkat fixed this and if i remember right kinda broke our way of making apps go to the SD card, you would have to look that up. i would recommend getting a 4.2.X or 4.3.X rom, personally my favorite versions of android. kitkat was not very impressive, if you don't see any of those just Test 4.0.X roms and up until you get something that is enjoyable. i'm looking around for a smaller gapps so we can give you a little more internal space, these small gapps pretty much give you the things you Really only need to use your phone such as the play market and Google play services, it removes like Gmail and hangouts, you will still be able to download them from the play store if you need them or see something missing.
as for your last question, its not that your phone is not officially compatible its because of your android version, i did some research and threema requires ICS 4.0.X and up so if you want to use this app you need to flash a ics or higher rom. remember every time you want to flash a rom, backup, wipe data, wipe cache, flash rom then gapps. i'm surprised you still own this phone, it is outdated at this point but is still a GREAT phone and im glad some people still use it, it was my first android phone and is still a great phone to this day (even if its sitting on my desk for the rest of its days like the rest of my phones lol). if you get stuck please reply back.

Albert.Rr said:
just ignore me
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Sorry i cant, its against rules to spam to get past the 10 post limit and make you look bad.

Trozzul said:
Well first off, for your lagging problem, its because the device is a little outdated with its Processor which is clocked at 600 MHz. Cyanogenmod allows you to overclock your device to what they think is a safe Clock speed. honestly when i had Cyanogenmod 7 on my Optimus v (same as p500 different carrier) i don't think i got to overclock it past 700 MHz. now you might be wondering if overclocking is as dangerous as computer overclocking, these phones (CPU's) where meant to get packed into small areas on its motherboard if that makes sense. it is completely safe to overclock (there was a Motorola phone i think was the moto atrix, when it first came out, it was clocked at 1 GHz. the ics update had boosted it up to 1.2 GHz.) the most harm it can do is Reboot when it either what i'm guessing cant handle that clock speed or is just a huge jump from different speeds. so pretty much just boost it 5% at a time until it reboots, to overclock i don't remember where you would be able to find it in cyanogenmod 7, i think it might be in something called cyanogenmod settings, the layout between CM7 vs CM9 and up changed quite a bit. but pretty much just look around for it.
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The overclocking indeed helps a bit. I think it depends on the Launcher too.
I´ve installed Go Launcher Ex with a simple theme: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex.theme.cblue
And it works much better.
There is a unofficial CM9 for P500
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Unoff....2C_Thrive_.28P506.29.2C_Optimus_T_.28P509.29
but the thread seems to be closed.
Also I don´t know if I just can pick any ROM available, or if I need a specific port for my device.
i'm looking around for a smaller gapps so we can give you a little more internal space, these small gapps pretty much give you the things you Really only need to use your phone such as the play market and Google play services, it removes like Gmail and hangouts, you will still be able to download them from the play store if you need them or see something missing.
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Thanks this sounds good. I guess this apps cannot be stored on the SD Card. And such like launchers neither. Tried this with Go Launcher Ex, the widgets crashed. - At least if You use the standard way of copying Apps on the SD card through the App manager.
So such performance-relevant stuff should be kept in phone´s storage.
i'm surprised you still own this phone, it is outdated at this point but is still a GREAT phone and im glad some people still use it, it was my first android phone and is still a great phone to this day (even if its sitting on my desk for the rest of its days like the rest of my phones lol)
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Its a combination of circumstances.
The phone is not so outdated that I had a strong desire to give out money for a new one.
And I like the design becuase its "handy". It´s not so small and not too big.
And if there is a free way to get rid of the slow stock rom, and make it a little bit faster... why not?
The today´s phones, like the Samsung S3-5 are way too big, and most importantly too expensive,
the whole system there is sad, you have to pay like 700€ for a new phone and as soon as they bring out a new model, the price drops instantly.
So you ask yourself do you pay for the hardware or for the "image" or whatever? So if I buy a new phone then I will of course always look for the "outdated" models (which are not in my opinion). Like the S2 or S3, where you still have a good performance, for a good price.
The One Plus One is interesting too, another favorite would be Google Nexus or (to stay loyal) some of the LG smartphones like the L70-L90, its maybe not one of the high end smartphones but still sure a nice performance boost.
The only bad thing about the older phones is the low screen resolution.

georg2010 said:
The overclocking indeed helps a bit. I think it depends on the Launcher too.
I´ve installed Go Launcher Ex with a simple theme: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex.theme.cblue
And it works much better.
There is a unofficial CM9 for P500
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Unoff....2C_Thrive_.28P506.29.2C_Optimus_T_.28P509.29
but the thread seems to be closed.
Also I don´t know if I just can pick any ROM available, or if I need a specific port for my device.
Thanks this sounds good. I guess this apps cannot be stored on the SD Card. And such like launchers neither. Tried this with Go Launcher Ex, the widgets crashed. - At least if You use the standard way of copying Apps on the SD card through the App manager.
So such performance-relevant stuff should be kept in phone´s storage.
Its a combination of circumstances.
The phone is not so outdated that I had a strong desire to give out money for a new one.
And I like the design becuase its "handy". It´s not so small and not too big.
And if there is a free way to get rid of the slow stock rom, and make it a little bit faster... why not?
The today´s phones, like the Samsung S3-5 are way too big, and most importantly too expensive,
the whole system there is sad, you have to pay like 700€ for a new phone and as soon as they bring out a new model, the price drops instantly.
So you ask yourself do you pay for the hardware or for the "image" or whatever? So if I buy a new phone then I will of course always look for the "outdated" models (which are not in my opinion). Like the S2 or S3, where you still have a good performance, for a good price.
The One Plus One is interesting too, another favorite would be Google Nexus or (to stay loyal) some of the LG smartphones like the L70-L90, its maybe not one of the high end smartphones but still sure a nice performance boost.
The only bad thing about the older phones is the low screen resolution.
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the original Stock launcher for Cyanogenmod 7 and below was a launcher called ADW launcher, the company or person who made it tends to try to make it as stock android as possible and honestly the version cyanogenmod 7 came with was not very good. i dont think launchers cant be moved to the sd card but widgets sure cant.
your right, you cant pick any rom you want, it has to be specifically built for your own. cyanogenmod is not the only rom type. most of the time unofficial roms will be built upon cyanogenmod or other roms. there are a few others on some newer phones but cyanogenmod is the stablest and if its official updates on bugs come faster. if you want to find more roms, here on xda you always want to go here for your device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/optimus-one/one-development for roms kernels and other modifications.
honestly if you were to find a used Galaxy s2 the specs would be perfectly fine. all variants have a great development community going and should for the new few android versions. what carrier do you have? i would try to get a T989 T-mobile s2 like myself, its pretty great though its a 4.5" ich screen vs your 3.2" screen its not too big, probably the only problem i have with it is the resolution is not the best. a motorola G would be a great replacement aswell, better specs than the s2 (its very close to a s3 benchmark) same screen size and i think it has a better resolution.
as for today's standards you Are paying for image, paying for the brand name (like alienware and dell computers), back then it used to be Hardware, the Nexus one used to have the Best phone specs when it was released. if you look at benchmarks, the Galaxy s4 vs the s5 there is not much of a difference. i myself am interested in the oneplus one device but the only problem is that invite system. im also thinking of grabing a LG L90, great price for its specs which are the same as the moto g so pretty much as close to a s3.

Its hard to choose but I will give this one a try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409107
what carrier do you have?
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O2
but I don´t really care about carrier, ´cause I use a prepaid card. Which work with every phone. And would buy only a sim-lock free phone.

georg2010 said:
Its hard to choose but I will give this one a try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409107
O2
but I don´t really care about carrier, ´cause I use a prepaid card. Which work with every phone. And would buy only a sim-lock free phone.
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be sure to read most of the thread looking for special requirements, some roms like this one dont need a gapps.

Trozzul said:
be sure to read most of the thread looking for special requirements, some roms like this one dont need a gapps.
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Yes saw this already.
btw. deleted this already,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409107
.. not so smooth and screen was not so good, in the menues on the small display.
Flashed this now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811325
which is coming closer to that what I´ve expected..
Although I´ve trouble with the non-functional home button, someone suggested here, to re-flash the ROM, but Cyanogen and Gapp separately.
Will try this now.
Also I am considering to try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096721
But not sure if there are any major bugs or something.
This is the 4.2.X you suggested. Can´t find 4.3.X though.
What is the difference between them?
Maybe you can suggest one specific rom.

georg2010 said:
Yes saw this already.
btw. deleted this already,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409107
.. not so smooth and screen was not so good, in the menues on the small display.
Flashed this now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811325
which is coming closer to that what I´ve expected..
Although I´ve trouble with the non-functional home button, someone suggested here, to re-flash the ROM, but Cyanogen and Gapp separately.
Will try this now.
Also I am considering to try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096721
But not sure if there are any major bugs or something.
This is the 4.2.X you suggested. Can´t find 4.3.X though.
What is the difference between them?
Maybe you can suggest one specific rom.
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i cant sugesst you a rom because i dont own the phone, i could look through the forums and show you one to test out but thats about it, 4.2.X and 4.3.X have just minor ui updates that can come in handy, just test a bunch of 4.1.X and 4.2.X and you can see the difference, i think 4.2.X added camera to the lockscreen and dropdown status bar different ui. you can check here to see some of the differences http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history