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How many of you plan on rooting and ROMing?

Ok guys, the title says it all. Do you plan on living with your One XL the way HTC intended it to be or do you plan on living on the wild side? Despite the non removable battery I plan on rooting as soon as we get some good roms. For me that's half the fun of android, as soon as I get bored with one rom I flash a new one! However I am a bit concerned about the non removable battery. I've ran into more than a few sticky situations while tinkering with my Atrix that the only solution was a battery pull i.e. infinite bootloops and not being able to access recovery. So what will it be for you?

I"m on a similar situation, but will Rom away.

definitely. and not having a removable battery isnt a problem, if you long hold the power button for 10 sec, the device will auto shutdown and simulate a battery pull.

i will root as soon as available so my root apps work and i can tether. i usually don't rom until roms are tried and true unless i'm testing. i'm not a fan of bugs and alphas.

filthyfnj24 said:
However I am a bit concerned about the non removable battery. I've ran into more than a few sticky situations while tinkering with my Atrix that the only solution was a battery pull i.e. infinite bootloops and not being able to access recovery.
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Hold the power button for 10+ seconds. According to the One X manual on HTC's website that will be the equivalent of a battery pull. And several users of the International version have confirmed that this works

def unlocking and rooting asap. always do.

Definitely will root, probably going to have to flash the radio to get AWS working for WCDMA.

Probably wont root. Im going to stay fully stock and see if everything is fine. If i need more enhancements/mods i will sign my phone away to htcdev

So I'm kind of a newb at rooting (I've only rooted the htc inspire) does anyone know how to root it already or are we going to have to wait till the device comes out on AT&T?

Will definitely root it but I'm gonna hold off on the roms for a while
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Rooting it to remove bloat. Might flash a rom if it's stock ICS themed.

I'll probably root/ROM mine after a few days of being stock.
I want to try out some vanilla ICS on it, but who knows maybe it will be perfect the way it is

Will be rooting as soon as possible I use to many apps that require root. May stick with sense for a while but will certainly do something about the green battery icon I really hate it.
Sent from wherever I am!

I'm not particularly interested in rooting any more these days, but I think I would prefer stock ICS again.
While Sense 4.0 is an improvement over past versions, it is still far too bloated and cluttered. Having only 9GB of available space on a 16GB device is unacceptable :\

I've never not rooted or flashed a different ROM on my device. Sometimes I will add my own hacks because devs are awesome enough to tell us their method for doing so. But my ROMs aren't good enough to publish and are just rips and customizations because I'm extremely picky.
Thankfully I've managed to Disable most of the Sense junk that I don't like and retain the good stuff. My stock ROM is running beautifully. HTC has done an amazing job of streamlining things and I'm really amazed.
I'll be able to hold out. I'd love root access for root call blocker and some other essential root-dependant changes but I'm pretty dang content right now. Such a wicked device. I've never loved a device out of the box as much as this phone.

Really hoping for AOKP for this device. I love the look of AOSP with the additional features included in AOKP...best of both worlds.

I'll definitely root ASAP, but will probably hold off on ROMs until a CM9 build pops up.
Non removable battery is a non issue. My Xoom has a non removable battery and I flash custom ROMs all the time. Power + Volume buttons.

NextNexus said:
Really hoping for AOKP for this device. I love the look of AOSP with the additional features included in AOKP...best of both worlds.
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The AOKP project is an awesome compliment to the AOSP sources that are released. They do such a fantastic job. Only very minor improvements and not too much screwing around.
Cyanogenmod trumps it by just a tiny bit though. I absolutely love what they do. They're intense. I always make small donations any time I can. They're amazing.

Im guessing the people that are here are going to root and rom... otherwise they wouldnt be here.

Red5 said:
Im guessing the people that are here are going to root and rom... otherwise they wouldnt be here.
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Bingo!
I'm always surprised when I see people posting about how they've had x amount of phones and never rooted. NEVER ROOTED!?!?!? I can understand and appreciate not unlocking the bootloader or flashing ROMs, but I don't understand why they'd be here if they aren't tinkering one way or another.
I normally don't even bother setting up my phones because I've already got everything lined up to root, unlock and probably flash a different ROM onto my device.

why root if can't many roms so

what are the advatages beside running titanium and the like, are the few roms better than the stock in your opinion?
thanks
fred

Would you be ok if microsoft(verizon) sells you a PC(phone) and had you locked out the administrator account... Leaving you with no choice but to use the GUEST account?
VERIZON GALAXY S 3

Fred1029 said:
what are the advatages beside running titanium and the like, are the few roms better than the stock in your opinion?
thanks
fred
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I havent seemed to have a whole lot of luck with the "aftermarket" roms. The only one thats really worked for me is the factory rooted rom you flash to get root initially. I have tried AOKP, CM10(one of which did something causing me to need a new sim card to get 4g working again, even after flashing back to factory stock and doing a factory format) and a few stock-based roms(one of which didnt seem to have solid data connections, the other would get stuck at the boot logo for 30 minutes and would never boot.)
My suggestion, if you do root, back-up your IMEI data. There is a thread on this in the development section.

I've been running Synergy and loving it. If there is nothing you want to do extra with your phone then why go to the trouble of rooting it? That said, by rooting you can do things such as install Cerberus (anti-theft software) so that if someone steals your phone they can't even uninstall it. It allows you to remove the bloat that comes with your phone as well.
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Rooting it and flashing a rather vanilla kind of stock ROM so that it has less applications that will hardly if ever be used. Check out kyanROM, that's the ROM I'm currently using and it saves me a ton of battery!

Jcbzr said:
Rooting it and flashing a rather vanilla kind of stock ROM so that it has less applications that will hardly if ever be used. Check out kyanROM, that's the ROM I'm currently using and it saves me a ton of battery!
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there is no kyanrom for verizon
VERIZON GALAXY S 3

I flashed the rt66 ROM on the first boot out of the box & I absolutely LOVE it.
I then debloated it, installed AdFree, flashed CWM & installed free wireless tether to take advantage of my unlimited data.
I made a few visual tweaks, changed the battery icon to a white digital readout to get rid of the ugly green battery that didn't match anything else, got rid of the GPS icon etc etc. I use Nova launcher (switched from Apex) mainly to get a landscape home screen option.
I absolutely LOVE my setup, it flies & I have not had one single problem yet. I have yet to have a single FC or freezeup & I couldn't be happier with it.

Why root a Nexus 5?

Hi guys,
Just got a Nexus 5, had previously had a Samsung Galaxy S3.
My S3 was rooted, mainly to get rid of carrier bloatware and later because I wanted the Android 4.2 camera with Photosphere (my carrier was stuck on 4.1 until a few months ago).
As time wore on my device had numerous problems ultimately I felt related to rooting, I could never find ROM's with at least one major glitch. I ended up on a stock ROM for most the time with the only root change was flashing the 4.2 camera for Photosphere. Rooting in general I found caused more headaches than it was worth.
Anyways, I just got the Nexus 5 and have no real intention to root it. Since it's devoid of carrier bloatware and it runs super fast and responsive, just wondering what the real credible benefits to rooting it are? (and voiding warranty in the process)??
I don't see a lot of bloatware on the device, it's going to get constant updates from Google (as opposed to devices depandant on a carrier), I don't really need to overclock or mess with kernals on an already fast device.
Am I missing something here?

Sianspheric said:
Hi guys,
Just got a Nexus 5, had previously had a Samsung Galaxy S3.
My S3 was rooted, mainly to get rid of carrier bloatware and later because I wanted the Android 4.2 camera with Photosphere (my carrier was stuck on 4.1 until a few months ago).
As time wore on my device had numerous problems ultimately I felt related to rooting, I could never find ROM's with at least one major glitch. I ended up on a stock ROM for most the time with the only root change was flashing the 4.2 camera for Photosphere. Rooting in general I found caused more headaches than it was worth.
Anyways, I just got the Nexus 5 and have no real intention to root it. Since it's devoid of carrier bloatware and it runs super fast and responsive, just wondering what the real credible benefits to rooting it are? (and voiding warranty in the process)??
I don't see a lot of bloatware on the device, it's going to get constant updates from Google (as opposed to devices depandant on a carrier), I don't really need to overclock or mess with kernals on an already fast device.
Am I missing something here?
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Some people prefer different launchers or ROMs or to have access to certain functions (e.g. full backup) that require root. I've had my N5 for a month and haven't felt the need for it, so I'm still stock, locked, unrooted.

Xposed for me.
Most of the mods from Custom ROMs with the OTA updates from Google
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Xposed framework, Adaway, Lmt launcher, AppOps, AutomateIt Pro... Basicly everything to take control over your device.
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So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.

Sianspheric said:
So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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I wouldn't call them minor tweaks at all. There is an extremely wide variety of things that require your phone to be rooted. Often times an app will have limited functionality without root.
Please note that rooting your phone has nothing to do with using a custom rom. (You can in fact have a custom rom that is not rooted) Your problems with your prior phone were not in any way as a result of rooting the phone. If you had problems with the rom (sometimes custom roms have broken components) that has nothing to do with having root access.
At this point, I'd be willing to bet the most common usage of the phone at this point (amongst users of this site) are those who are rooted, but still using the stock rom. More and more users are migrating to the custom roms, but this is because rom development takes a bit of time with major releases.

AdAway is the main reason for me - I HATE adverts with a passion!
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Sianspheric said:
So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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what you consider "minor tweaks", might be a big deal for someone else. Tastes differ.
i root because of 1 main reason, i paid for the device and i believe i should be able to have full control over it.
Another thing is, whatever i do with my phone, i always know what i'm doing and why i'm doing it, so the odds of screwing something up are very little. In case i do need to claim warranty, i know how to set everything back.

Sianspheric said:
So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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Ehm...why did you buy a nexus? Actually i don't even know what you are doing on xda. No offense but... Sound more like an iPhone kind a guy...
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It's up to you whether to root or not. Whatever problems you had with your previous device, it wasn't due to rooting persay, but rather what you did with root access. Rooting doesn't change anything, it just gives you administrative access to the operating system. Running un-rooted is analogous to accessing your desktop PC through a guest account. Rooting your Android device gives you full access like you have on your desktop as as an administrator.

He just wants to know the benefits. No need to harp on him for not wanting to root. If anything Nexus 5 has less reasons to be rooted then OEM phones.

bblzd said:
He just wants to know the benefits. No need to harp on him for not wanting to root. If anything Nexus 5 has less reasons to be rooted then OEM phones.
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Maybe someday he'll want to tether.

AT LEAST UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER
Fastboot OEM Unlock
That easy, it'll erase EVERYTHING. So if you do it now you won't lose much. Do it later when you want to root (like my mother and myself) you'll have to unlock and lose everything.
If you ever need you return it just lock it again it's easy. And you won't lose ANYTHING for relocking it.
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Two words....
Franco kernel
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Titanium back up because I'm too lazy to reinstall all of my apps on my previous device.
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Not much reason to if your main use is as a "daily driver".
Mine is rooted mainly due to needing to use it for development work related to my job, but ad blocking and several xposed modules would require root anyways. That and I just can't help but mess with stuff like CPU frequency/voltage settings, etc.

Ben36 said:
Two words....
Franco kernel
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I second this.

I was previously on Galaxy S2 rooted. I'd tested some custom roms like chamaleon, cm, but at last, what i realized that I needed wasn't a lot of new features i only wanted a good battery performance and a fc and random reboots free phone.
So I returned to stock roms with the more stock-like rooted kernel with Xposed and some additions. At last I got a good battery performance to keep the phone full day without charging.
Now that my N5 is with me for about 6 or 7 weeks I don't need rooting, modding ... nothing. The performance for my daily use is about 30 hours between charges with almost 3 hours with screen on.
That is all I need!
And for backups (i've payed for titanium backup app for my S2) now I use ADB from command line and it's enought for me
Also, the Nexus in this conditions hasn't hanged yet.
It spent more than 350 hours until I decided to change to Dart and I had to restart the phone. this is much better than my old S2 that needed two or three weekly reboots even with stock rom.
So, i'm very happy with my non-rooted N5 but if I need to root it in the near future it will be not a problem to me doing it.

I use it for Titanium Backup myself, whose backups I periodically have uploaded to Box.com. Obviously it's there for when I want to change phone and want to restore app data, especially for game saves, but you also never know if your phone is going to malfunction and you have to wipe or get lost/stolen. I think it's pretty useful to have an app that automatically takes care of backing up your data for you.
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http://lifehacker.com/top-10-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone-1079161983
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Good bye Galaxy S4 and HELLOOO Nexus 5

I just took a gamble and canceled my Verizon account and switched to AT&T just to get the Nexus 5. I must say I do not miss the S4 one bit. Google made it so easy to root and unlock the bootloader. The phone is incredibly fast! I like how its simple to use. An example is the camera. You open it and shoot pictures. Samsung camera had so many different features that just wanted needed and probably bogged down the phone.
Now that I have my phone setup I just wanted to see if theres anything you guys recommend. I am rooted with the bootloader unlocked but I kept the stock rom. With the stock rom I got Gravity box to let me customize the rom to my liking. I also got greenify(donate version).
Is there anything in particular you guys recommend?
Heres a list of apps Im using.
Weather:1Weather
Launcher:Nova Launcher
File Browser:Solid Explorer
Backup:Titanium Backup
Power Toggles
Do you guys recommend anything else useful or cool? Am I wrong for not wanting to do roms? I just want the most stable I can get. Ive noticed in the past that once you start romming that things become unstable.

ponzi314 said:
I just took a gamble and canceled my Verizon account and switched to AT&T just to get the Nexus 5. I must say I do not miss the S4 one bit. Google made it so easy to root and unlock the bootloader. The phone is incredibly fast! I like how its simple to use. An example is the camera. You open it and shoot pictures. Samsung camera had so many different features that just wanted needed and probably bogged down the phone.
Now that I have my phone setup I just wanted to see if theres anything you guys recommend. I am rooted with the bootloader unlocked but I kept the stock rom. With the stock rom I got Gravity box to let me customize the rom to my liking. I also got greenify(donate version).
Is there anything in particular you guys recommend?
Heres a list of apps Im using.
Weather:1Weather
Launcher:Nova Launcher
File Browser:Solid Explorer
Backup:Titanium Backup
Power Toggles
Do you guys recommend anything else useful or cool? Am I wrong for not wanting to do roms? I just want the most stable I can get. Ive noticed in the past that once you start romming that things become unstable.
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There's nothing wrong with flashing a ROM. Makes the phone far more customizable and in most cases, improves performance. If you don't like it just revert back.
A root app I would recommend is 'Greenify'. Some people believe it is useless, however on my old single core phone, it was quite dramatic. So you might as well use it.
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james1196 said:
There's nothing wrong with flashing a ROM. Makes the phone far more customizable and in most cases, improves performance. If you don't like it just revert back.
A root app I would recommend is 'Greenify'. Some people believe it is useless, however on my old single core phone, it was quite dramatic. So you might as well use it.
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Yea i got the donate version of that. Mainly because one night i charged phone to 100% and unplugged it. In the morning it was at 75% I was shocked. I put greenify on there and did the same thing. What a difference. Work up with 97% battery.

Congrats I did the same but went with tmo about 9 months ago. So happy!
Check out xposed and the module gravity box. It's all I run. It's all you need to run (imo).... Root required but I use stock Google rom with stock kernel. No need for custom kernels or roms (imo)
Fwiw I don't use anything else. No need to greenify anything (again imo)
Nexus5

Galaxy s Relay on AT&T network, non-working apps

I purchase the phone for a relative. Since he is on AT&T network, I figure I had to prep the phone. So far I have done the following:
1. Simm unlocked the phone. Tested using a Lycamobile pay as you go, which worked immediately after unlocking.
2. Update ROM to jelly bean. Benchmark indicated that it is faster.
However, the phone has a lot of Tmobile related stuff on it. For example
* I keep getting a popup saying that wifi calling isn't working. I believe this is a tmobile feature. I turned it off but it keeps notifying me that it's not turned on.
* There appears to be a list of stuff that may not be working:
Mobile Hotspot
Mobile Widget
Tmobile My account
Tmobile Name ID
Tmobile TV
If I get root, can they be deleted? If they are deleted, will this cause crashes? How do we get them back if say the person switches to Tmobile?
I also had some difficulty with the interface. Touchwiz is apparently different enough from stock to make things difficult. Hopefully, it won't be confusing to the user.
Paul

paul.siu said:
Benchmark indicated that it is faster.
Paul
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Which benchmark did you use?

dezmond06 said:
Which benchmark did you use?
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Antutu and Quadrant.
Paul

Above stated apps can be easily deleted without any consequences. I've made it also.
Deletion can be done through cmd or via uninstaller-apps (Titanium e.g.). Root required.
However you cannot revert to them again after deletion therefore it makes sense to backup them if you want.
WiFi-Calling can be switched off through Settings->More settings->WiFi-Calling->Disabled.
No notifications, no popups at all.

Being your relative is on att then you will find it best to root the phone and get rid of any T-Mobile garbage, better yet just use one of the many amazing custom ROMs here which are far better/faster/more stable than stock and won't come with any T-Mobile apps
Best of luck!
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demkantor said:
Being your relative is on att then you will find it best to root the phone and get rid of any T-Mobile garbage, better yet just use one of the many amazing custom ROMs here which are far better/faster/more stable than stock and won't come with any T-Mobile apps
Best of luck!
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Well, he's not the custom rom sort of guy. He probably want stock everything. This is the first time I used Touchwiz, and I have to say that I am not a fan. When you install an app, it's not sorted in any reasonable order and it took me a while to figure out how to hide the keyboard.
What's the best way to backup the phone?
Paul

Backup in recovery, then try some custom ROMs out. Even if he isn't a custom ROM sorta guy he will be better with one, besides most are closer to stock android than any touchwiz ROM anyway.
But of course choice is between you and him
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paul.siu said:
Well, he's not the custom rom sort of guy. He probably want stock everything. This is the first time I used Touchwiz, and I have to say that I am not a fan. When you install an app, it's not sorted in any reasonable order and it took me a while to figure out how to hide the keyboard.
What's the best way to backup the phone?
Paul
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I would root the phone and install a custom recovery, then you can back up the stock ROM. You will have to be rooted to delete system apps, anyway. If you decide to stay with the stock ROM, you can use an app (l use App Master in the Play Store) to delete all the proprietary garbage you don't want. This app let's you create a little recovery file of the deleted apps, if you want to put them back some day. Just clearing away the stuff you don't need will help but I would still go with a custom ROM, especially since you're going to all the trouble already.

It appears that you can just disable the app through the app manager. I disable to tmobile app that way so that the effect is not permanent.
Paul

paul.siu said:
It appears that you can just disable the app through the app manager. I disable to tmobile app that way so that the effect is not permanent.
Paul
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Please remember that the Relay has been abandoned by the manufacturer. Unpatched and outdated OS software is risky on any computer--including a mobile device. For your friend's safety and privacy, you really should consider abandoning the out of date "stock" operating system (that will never be patched).
There is an official release of CyanogenMod available that can automatically update. Any owner of a Relay would be a fool to stick with the stock Jelly Bean Touchwiz.
Just my two cents.

FYI to whoever needs this, I recently started using my Relay on ATT and it works great. 4G is faster than tmobile's. And i'm on a custom ROM.