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hi all.
great phone had mine since 7july,luckily not had any problems like, heat or battery etc..
everyone seen does get impressed.
just to let know when i play in built video clips on 3d tv it only play audio not video, some sort of copyright.
"unauthorised video output" message comes up.
plays the games and ur own recordings on the big screen ok though.
have fun
Well I'm glad you don't have the problems with battery and heat but unfortunately I got the mentioned issue and much more such as random boot ups crash of the android system eg but never the less I still love the phone and always a show stealer with this phone.great to watch 3d content. I get sometimes frustrated with the fon. We need a lot of optimisation for this fon
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Paran0idAndr0id said:
Well I'm glad you don't have the problems with battery and heat
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I got these too.
To be quite honest i've had the phone since july 5th, stock froyo i dont use that crap of performance pack.
And untill now no issues, fast as hell, around 35 app running with no lags, today i ran a test i opened 20 of my downloaded apps while i was listening music with Winamp, Browsing with the native browser, and downloading 2 songs one with the browser and the other with the Mediafire app, and opened a 3D game and the phone managed to open the game and execute it smoothly; got a little warm but not like the reports that i've been reading here of extremely high temps.
Having said that i cannot wait untill Gingerbread with full support for dualcores is out.
Overall is a superb phone, feels like a brick in your hand, very fast, excellent design, bright and responsive screen.
Im very pleased with this handset.
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I'm not sure about this "full support for dual-cores" business as being sat on top of Linux a lot of the OS should already be utilising dual core. In fact it MUST be, as things like UAE4Android runs games full speed yet on my N900 overclocked to 1Ghz it could not, so clearly its utilising both cores.
You will notice despite running Android 2.2.2 the O3D is running the same kernel version as 2.3.4 (which doesn't necessarily mean it is IDENTICAL to the kernel 2.3.4 uses, I do not know). So the O3D is likely already benefiting from all the SMP kernel enhancements from Gingerbread.
Of course it might be Dalvik that required rewriting for dual-core, in which case some apps will certainly see a boost in performance. I have no idea how to tell what apps are using native code vs Java code.
This discussion also makes me wonder what on earth is going on: http://groups.google.com/group/android-platform/browse_thread/thread/b754408b9af17e55?pli=1
The phone is fast enough as it is I just want it to have slightly better battery as its poor, so hoping the move to 2.3 will help out as its got better power management.
So you think those problems are rooted in the performance pack? If so I should get rid of it as I have quite few random boot ups
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This is a question for devs who know more about kernels than I do. The Infuse 4G and I9000-based phones like the Captivate all have 512MB of RAM, but the Infuse 4G has a lot more of that memory available to the user and applications. I'm guessing that I9000-based phones reserve more of the RAM for specific functionality like video recording and playback.
Now for my question: is it possible to implement an I9000 kernel style of reserved memory in an Infuse kernel? I ask this because the Infuse's RAM management has resulted in unreliability of system functions (particularly video playback) under the testing I've done. In comparison, the Captivate leaves system and stock app functionality rock solid even when the RAM is loaded with background apps.
I'd much rather have ~340MB of user addressable RAM than 428MB if it allows me to watch my 1080p videos without needing to clear the memory every time.
What type of 1080p videos are you watching that's causing instability? I don't think I've ever seen anything like it... even while outputting FHD over HDMI. Then again all my videos are h.264 based.
XGX5309 said:
What type of 1080p videos are you watching that's causing instability? I don't think I've ever seen anything like it... even while outputting FHD over HDMI. Then again all my videos are h.264 based.
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The issue isn't just 1080p. I have a post here that details all the issues. All the files in question are H.264/MKV (excluding the AC3 issue), and they all play without issue on my Captivate (except for 1080p which the Captivate doesn't support): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1292304
strychninetwitch said:
If you're having playback issues, something's wrong with your phone. I'm 100% stock and I never have video playback issues, smooth as hash oil.
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+1 I've had the same issue before, but it was rom related, I switched rom and that problem was no more
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strychninetwitch said:
If you're having playback issues, something's wrong with your phone. I'm 100% stock and I never have video playback issues, smooth as hash oil.
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Go away. I post questions here because this is a developers forum. I expect posters to read and understand my post before replying, unless they need me to clarify something. If I wanted "herp derp works for me lolol" responses I would have gone somewhere else.
SMaximus7 said:
+1 I've had the same issue before, but it was rom related, I switched rom and that problem was no more
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Would you be willing to test sample videos? I don't doubt that some videos play fine on the Infuse: it came preloaded with a 1080p trailer that plays without issues. The real problem is that most of my video library that plays fine on my Captivate has major problems on the Infuse, and this happens regardless of ROM/kernel/video player. And this is not specific to a certain kind of video like 1080p.
Just like video recording, the video playback capabilities of the Rogers libraries might be gimped.
strychninetwitch - go away, you provide no constructive value to these forums. Your first post was flaming us for looking forward to official AT&T Gingerbread because it was a "minor update", yet you keep joining on on threads discussing the various deficiencies of Rogers Gingerbread.
Entropy512 said:
Just like video recording, the video playback capabilities of the Rogers libraries might be gimped.
strychninetwitch - go away, you provide no constructive value to these forums. Your first post was flaming us for looking forward to official AT&T Gingerbread because it was a "minor update", yet you keep joining on on threads discussing the various deficiencies of Rogers Gingerbread.
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The deficiencies in question apply to the stock AT&T ROM's as well. Even though stock AT&T and Froyo have 1080p support (while Rogers doesn't), it still seems to be heavily RAM-dependent for some videos, mostly MKV's of 720p or greater, which isn't the case on the Captivate. When I get the chance, I'm going to compare some of the Captivate/I9000 and Infuse kernel source, but I was hoping for developer input about specifically the memory reservation model.
I thought the infuse had 640mb of ram? I see Wikipedia lists it at 512 now, but I had definitely heard 640 a lot.
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I thought the infuse had 640mb of ram? I see Wikipedia lists it at 512 now, but I had definitely heard 640 a lot.
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I've never heard the 640MB figure. That sounds pretty odd for RAM.
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I've never heard the 640MB figure. That sounds pretty odd for RAM.
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it is just different advertising. 128 mb video ram
some Verizon adverts shoe the fascinate ad 384 mb ram. 384 + 128 = 512 total ram
the infuse has 512 system ram and another 128 video. I believe one of the kernel devs was able to verify the 640 figure.
infuse advertises system ram. sgs advertises total ram.
though the mod is sloppy and I'm sure not all of it is good maybe look at dynamic rams memory mod. but clean out all the stagfreight and other build.prop garbage. it is easy enough to remove the script if it doesn't work and it seems to resolve some flash playpack issues I had. there are also reports of it making gameplay choppy on the high end gameloft games but it couldn't hurt to try.
Dani897 said:
it is just different advertising. 128 mb video ram
some Verizon adverts shoe the fascinate ad 384 mb ram. 384 + 128 = 512 total ram
the infuse has 512 system ram and another 128 video. I believe one of the kernel devs was able to verify the 640 figure.
infuse advertises system ram. sgs advertises total ram.
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That might be the answer I'm looking for. Although, it doesn't really explain anything. If the Infuse and the I9000 both have 128MB of reserved video memory, then filling up the RAM with background apps shouldn't affect video playback on either device. In reality, it does affect the Infuse's video playback.
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That might be the answer I'm looking for. Although, it doesn't really explain anything. If the Infuse and the I9000 both have 128MB of reserved video memory, then filling up the RAM with background apps shouldn't affect video playback on either device. In reality, it does affect the Infuse's video playback.
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I don't know what else sammy did differntly. lets just hope they do better on 2.3.5 when it comes out.
the player still uses system ram. that video ram helps the gpu process opengl and some effects and things. I guess there is hardware acceleration on the video too but that doesn't mean it exclusively uses the video ram. there are other system and app processes involved.. I wish I knew what causes the issues but I don't. and I don't think our kernel devs watch much media and may be unaware of the issue. you are the first to report it and I don't use the videos enough to know fore sure if I have the same problem.
Dani897 said:
I don't know what else sammy did differntly. lets just hope they do better on 2.3.5 when it comes out.
the player still uses system ram. that video ram helps the gpu process opengl and some effects and things. I guess there is hardware acceleration on the video too but that doesn't mean it exclusively uses the video ram. there are other system and app processes involved.. I wish I knew what causes the issues but I don't. and I don't think our kernel devs watch much media and may be unaware of the issue. you are the first to report it and I don't use the videos enough to know fore sure if I have the same problem.
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Hmm. I'm going to post a video demonstrating the issues better, because I'm guessing not many people here use their phone for video enough to understand the issues I'm describing. But whether or not it just affects video playback, it is a system issue and I'm interested in a fix, using the I9000 as reference (since it doesn't have any video playback issues).
hopefully linux bozo or entropy can look at it but i think they are heading in the direction of cm7 development. it would seem to be a kernel issue if even the i9000 ports are doing this.
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That might be the answer I'm looking for. Although, it doesn't really explain anything. If the Infuse and the I9000 both have 128MB of reserved video memory, then filling up the RAM with background apps shouldn't affect video playback on either device. In reality, it does affect the Infuse's video playback.
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Get CPUspy and clear the counters before you do your testing.
I'm curious if the infuse properly scales to 1.2Ghz or if it sits at a lower speed. I've been seeing a lot of governor weirdness on mine, but I don't have a reproduceable test case, and it always happens far away from my computer. Then again, I'm running CM7, so the governor might be even weirder than on stock.
But basically, clear the timers, run your testing(try to do this on both the infuse and the i9000), and see if one is sitting mostly in lower-power states when you see the playback issues? I've seen mine loving 200Mhz while I'm actively using it, despite all sorts of interface lagginess and interaction.
Here is a video I made demonstrating the effect of memory usage on video playback on the Infuse:
Edit: Watch it on YouTube so you can see the annotations.
I'm in the process of making another one (when this camera is charged) to show that even the preloaded 1080p trailer lags when the memory starts getting full.
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Get CPUspy and clear the counters before you do your testing.
I'm curious if the infuse properly scales to 1.2Ghz or if it sits at a lower speed. I've been seeing a lot of governor weirdness on mine, but I don't have a reproduceable test case, and it always happens far away from my computer. Then again, I'm running CM7, so the governor might be even weirder than on stock.
But basically, clear the timers, run your testing(try to do this on both the infuse and the i9000), and see if one is sitting mostly in lower-power states when you see the playback issues? I've seen mine loving 200Mhz while I'm actively using it, despite all sorts of interface lagginess and interaction.
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I'll give this a try.
strychninetwitch said:
I've the right to post where I please. I'm telling you something is wrong with your phone if you can't play 1080p videos. It's not a memory issue and you very well know that.
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I never said it couldn't play 1080p videos. You didn't read or understand my posts, yet you keep posting. I reported you.
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I've the right to post where I please. I'm telling you something is wrong with your phone if you can't play 1080p videos. It's not a memory issue and you very well know that.
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Get outta here. Grow up too
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Dani897 said:
hopefully linux bozo or entropy can look at it but i think they are heading in the direction of cm7 development. it would seem to be a kernel issue if even the i9000 ports are doing this.
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Could be the video libraries not supporting certain modes.
In the Froyo kernels there were configurable reserved memory sizes in the defconfig. These don't appear to be configurable in Gingerbread.
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hopefully linux bozo or entropy can look at it but i think they are heading in the direction of cm7 development. it would seem to be a kernel issue if even the i9000 ports are doing this.
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That's what I'm thinking. In Captivate/I9000 kernels, developers could make multiple options that disabled specific features (like 720p video recording) in order to give the user more RAM for apps. I'm wondering if something along those lines (but in reverse) can be done on the Infuse.
araemo said:
Get CPUspy and clear the counters before you do your testing.
I'm curious if the infuse properly scales to 1.2Ghz or if it sits at a lower speed. I've been seeing a lot of governor weirdness on mine, but I don't have a reproduceable test case, and it always happens far away from my computer. Then again, I'm running CM7, so the governor might be even weirder than on stock.
But basically, clear the timers, run your testing(try to do this on both the infuse and the i9000), and see if one is sitting mostly in lower-power states when you see the playback issues? I've seen mine loving 200Mhz while I'm actively using it, despite all sorts of interface lagginess and interaction.
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Just did this. Both phones run at 400MHz when playing 720p content. The CPU doesn't seem to be the issue.
strychninetwitch said:
You know, looking at that video. I think, that perhaps, possibly, somehow, maybe you could press the play button and it would play?
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You know, looking at that video, I think, that perhaps, possibly, you'd notice the video timer is counting and nothing is happening? Or that the second time around, the audio is playing but there's still no video? Or that the third time around, the video is laggy? I reported you again, and now you're going on my ignore list. Goodbye
Hi buds
I bought my xXoom recently, about two weeks, and i been having some questions aboutit.
I dont know if there is really some problem, but i think i should askfirst.
First of all,...
I love to play games and, yesterday, i installed Shadowgun on my device. It was quite cesappointing to see that it runs not with that beautiful graphics, it looks like it needs aanti-aliasing, and the game is runing in 30- fps.
Ok,i tried other games too, and all of them looks like there is a lack of anti aliasing. Is this normal?
Another issue ihave is the web browsing, using default browser and dolphin hd... i must sayit is nothing smooth it freezes for some milliseconds, take a lot of timeto load pages( my internet is 15mb).
And posting this thread using xoom i get a lot of delay while typing.
Please, guys, is this the normalperormane of stock, or there is anyproblemand i should seek RMAA or warranty?
Desperatly need to know. Thanks for the attention.
I hate the stock performance since I've rooted and running overclocked cpu/gpu from almost as soon as I got the Xoom. TIAMAT makes the Xoom fly.
for xda, chg it to classic view.. scroll to the bottom n u will c this option
n4ndoz said:
Hi buds
I bought my xXoom recently, about two weeks, and i been having some questions aboutit.
I dont know if there is really some problem, but i think i should askfirst.
First of all,...
I love to play games and, yesterday, i installed Shadowgun on my device. It was quite cesappointing to see that it runs not with that beautiful graphics, it looks like it needs aanti-aliasing, and the game is runing in 30- fps.
Ok,i tried other games too, and all of them looks like there is a lack of anti aliasing. Is this normal?
Another issue ihave is the web browsing, using default browser and dolphin hd... i must sayit is nothing smooth it freezes for some milliseconds, take a lot of timeto load pages( my internet is 15mb).
And posting this thread using xoom i get a lot of delay while typing.
Please, guys, is this the normalperormane of stock, or there is anyproblemand i should seek RMAA or warranty?
Desperatly need to know. Thanks for the attention.
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About the jaggies you're talking about...are you using the zoom in/stretch to fit feature with games/apps that are still only sized for phone screens? Otherwise, the Xoom has a good gpu and graphics are quite smooth if in the right resolution. Also, Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0) may fix this issue as it is bridging the divide between phones and tabs.
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About the jaggies you're talking about...are you using the zoom in/stretch to fit feature with games/apps that are still only sized for phone screens? Otherwise, the Xoom has a good gpu and graphics are quite smooth if in the right resolution. Also, Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0) may fix this issue as it is bridging the divide between phones and tabs.
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Hey, bud.
Here you are helping ,me again!
IF there was a "10x Thanks" Buttom i would use it!! =)
Man, i didn't understood the "are you using the zoom in/stretch to fit feature with games/apps that are still only sized for phone screens?".
I'm using Xoom as it came for me. =)
What i really noticed, and, for me, is strange, is that on Youtube, i watched a video of a guy running shadowgun and the performance/overall graphics was a lot better.(you know, what i noticed is that there is a lack of anti-aliasing on the game running on mine) than mine.
And when i run 9mm HD, the situation is worst. It runs at like >30fps.
Well, i will give a try on the root later(just gathering some courage =D) and will post the results.
I really hope an improvement, man, otherwise, such HD games would be impossible to play.
And another problem i noticed, when using the Xoom for a lotta time is that it heats a lot. Not too much , to burn my hands, and that i must to Shut it Down, but enough for me to put it in front of a Fan.
And one last question...
With the Root and OC, the processor's lifetime will lower??
Thanks again, man.
n4ndoz said:
Hey, bud.
Here you are helping ,me again!
IF there was a "10x Thanks" Buttom i would use it!! =)
Man, i didn't understood the "are you using the zoom in/stretch to fit feature with games/apps that are still only sized for phone screens?".
I'm using Xoom as it came for me. =)
What i really noticed, and, for me, is strange, is that on Youtube, i watched a video of a guy running shadowgun and the performance/overall graphics was a lot better.(you know, what i noticed is that there is a lack of anti-aliasing on the game running on mine) than mine.
And when i run 9mm HD, the situation is worst. It runs at like >30fps.
Well, i will give a try on the root later(just gathering some courage =D) and will post the results.
I really hope an improvement, man, otherwise, such HD games would be impossible to play.
And another problem i noticed, when using the Xoom for a lotta time is that it heats a lot. Not too much , to burn my hands, and that i must to Shut it Down, but enough for me to put it in front of a Fan.
And one last question...
With the Root and OC, the processor's lifetime will lower??
Thanks again, man.
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If the app or game is only configured for a phone's resolution, you might see it 'blown up' which may show jaggies. Do you see a little x icon in the system tray,near the clock? If you touch it, it will give you a choice whether to zoom to fit or stretch to fit. Zoom to fit usually looks better.
On the lagginess you are experiencing, I think rooting and overclocking the cpu plus using an over clocked gpu kernel will resolve that problem. If you're running hot, you may be pushing it a bit hard. If you root, you can set a temperature profile so that your clockspeed will decrease once you hit a pre-defined temp.
We don't really know if overclocking will make a lot of difference in the cpu's life...just enjoy at a stable oc speed and if it burns out, get a newer tab.
Hello all. I'm a recent convert to the transformer from an HP touchpad. I'm using the stock transformer setup that has been rooted via the one click method. I'm using Kernel-ICS-V21.11-OC1700-fb_607 as my kernel and it's OCed to 1400. I also tried this on 1200 and the stock 1000. I have an app from time warner that lets me watch my stations on the tablet. On my TP, it runs well. It's like looking at HD TV. On the transformer, (skype and groove IP were loaded at the time I admit), the video is choppy. It's like . . a comparison between an onboard video card and a dedicated. I'm also a tad shocked to see at the same OCing, my TP has outscored the transformer on AnTuTu. Shouldn't the transformer be performing better? I don't mind the similar benchmarks but I'm really shocked at the video performance. Is there a ROM I should try that might be better? I'd really like to see the video of the TWC app at least being equal to how it is on my TP.
Would something like the android revo rom with its forced GPU rendering be better? I do admit the TP has chainfire loaded but my transformer does not. Could that be it?
Certainly give a custom rom a try, does the choppy playback happen on apps such as Youtube etc? I'm on Revolver and i haven't had any video playback issues but I cant say i remember playback issues on stock ether
You might also try to flash the new nvidia codecs. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24534878 guevor has a link to it in that thread.
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I'll make a back up and try the nvidia codecs and see how the performance is on something like netflix, YT or crackle.
Well with the new codec, "the set IO to busy under interactive" tweak and increasing the OC up to 1400, my AnTuTu went up about 900 or so. Prior to all the tweaks, I checked YT and Netflix. They ran great. Even after the tweaks, the TWC app still has some stutter especially during motion. I noticed swiping animations seem to be really fast now. It really does seem to be performing well except for this app. I even killed a live wallpaper and some tasks just to see if it was causing issues and it didn't help.
Installed Android Revo as my ROM but sadly, I can't test right now. TWC released a new app so we have to wait for somebody to remove the root checks again.
The android revo ROM (or possibly the updated version from TWC) is now performing as it should. As a matter of fact, it looks beautiful. If anybody lost their ability to use the app due to the new update, check out this thread here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29339067#post29339067
Basically, superuser needs to be renamed.
Hey guys are u experiencing that sensation video playback is not so smoothe .......then the solution is as below...
1. root your htc sensation ... there are lot of tutorials in the internet....
2... then after you root you should install the SD booster and you should make changes in caches size of sd memroy to around 1024 to more as per your device performance.... then see the magic .... now the HD 1080p video on my sensation is butter smooth....
I NEVER HAD ISSUED PERSONALLY UNLESS THEY WERE ROM RELATED ALWAYS BEEN SMOOTH BUT THANKS FOR INFO
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i had this issue so i got a higher class sd card and all is good
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I changed the cache to 1024 but still the 1080p video playback stutters. But when i played it in portrait mode, no more stutters. No problem in 720p though. Back when in gb, there were no stuttering issues like in ics. Tried several ics rom, still stutters.
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The issue is not with SD Card read speed. The issue is with the underlying video drivers. In 3.32, even the 720p video use to stutter and skip frames no matter what I do. In 3.33, same happens with 1080p but they have optimized the drivers a little and 720p works flawlessly now.
GB had seen so many updates, its drivers got very optimized with time. That's why things were so good at that time. If drivers are not optimized, no matter how monstrous hardware you have, it will go down to its knees.
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The issue is not with SD Card read speed. The issue is with the underlying video drivers. In 3.32, even the 720p video use to stutter and skip frames no matter what I do. In 3.33, same happens with 1080p but they have optimized the drivers a little and 720p works flawlessly now.
GB had seen so many updates, its drivers got very optimized with time. That's why things were so good at that time. If drivers are not optimized, no matter how monstrous hardware you have, it will go down to its knees.
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How did u flash to 3.33? I'm runing Smartdroid Berserk AOSP Rom which is great to me. It's just that the video playback issues that bugging me.
I am talking about the official update from HTC. You can see in my signature, I have got default HTC ICS update for India that is based on 3.33 base. I got it as OTA only.
Same here, the only choppy video problems I have had were related to the ROM. but thank you for the info, i might try this anyways.
I use the Rom from Mike Revolution HD 6.7.2 XE on Stock Kernel with Firmware 3.33 and i dont have Problems with 1080p Videos.
But you can try this MOD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533238