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I checked the below video from Androidcentral.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMioPBv4PbI&feature=player_embedded
Looks like the EVO 3D got better handling on graphics speed. Is this because of the extra RAM? I just bought sensation and i still see some lag in overall touch and scroll experience. Its not bad but not very good either considering the beast hardware. Hope this can be solved by ROM chefs or by HTC themselves when they release a patch or something...
It is a sexy device ,the speed is pretty good for me I really don't get lag ,the data problems could just be some peoples service area ,but overall I'm loving the phone
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I checked the below video from Androidcentral.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMioPBv4PbI&feature=player_embedded
Looks like the EVO 3D got better handling on graphics speed. Is this because of the extra RAM? I just bought sensation and i still see some lag in overall touch and scroll experience. Its not bad but not very good either considering the beast hardware. Hope this can be solved by ROM chefs or by HTC themselves when they release a patch or something...
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Yep there are a number of people experiencing this with the Sensation including me. I'm getting mine exchanged but I have a feeling this is going to be an issue until we get an OTA
I have no doubt that there is much performance to be gained from these devices.
The ram isn't the reason. Probably just coding, I wouldn't worry about it.
For those of you who are familiar with HTC, do updates usually improve the speed and smoothness of the phone? And how about battery?
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For those of you who are familiar with HTC, do updates usually improve the speed and smoothness of the phone? And how about battery?
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Yes and yes. Normally.
If they don't the community here certainly will.
I saw that video yesterday and it gave me hope. Like many of you have said, I doubt it's the memory memory that's causing the lag. I'm sure with a few tweaks here and there they can speed up sense 3.0 on this device.
Im really very curious as to what is causing people lag. Mine is butter smooth and currently lag free
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Im really very curious as to what is causing people lag. Mine is butter smooth and currently lag free
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Like the Evo 3D on the video?
Who actually cares, though? The phone flies as it is and the next OTA will only improve that. Just enjoy the phone and stop comparing it to everything else
The difference is obvious and I haven't seen any Sensation that smooth on any video.
I'm pretty sure it's not the ram that causes lag. If it was ram Desire S Sense 3.0 port wouldn't have been so smooth like on that video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmiQs2SIKU8
Pretty sure the 1.34.401.1 ROM runs better from what I've heard so the next OTAs to come out will prob address the issue
I'm more than sure the evo 3D is just running a updated version of sense than ours. Stop stressing people.. Sheesh.
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I think its more to do with the screen (panel) and its refreshing rate and rendering speeds. Evo 3D screen might be totally different from sensartion as its a 3D display. I could be wrong and i wish i am wrong. I am hoping for a OTA or custom Rom solve this... still sensation is a better device and i am loving it...
What bloatware does the Evo 3D have loaded onto it? At least those of us on T-Mobile US are stuck with an anti-malware engine that we can't uninstall. It can't be helping.
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What bloatware does the Evo 3D have loaded onto it? At least those of us on T-Mobile US are stuck with an anti-malware engine that we can't uninstall. It can't be helping.
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What app is that? ill uninstall it NOW. Yes i'm on TMOUSA.
I don't think it's a RAM issue at all. I think it's one of two issues. Either it's all of the bloatware that starts up automatically every time you try to close it and some of which is not just running in the background. It is running in the foreground such as QIK video chat. I have never even used it before but it constantly want to run in the foreground. The other reason is that Sense 3.0 might not be fully optimized yet.
Here is why I think the bloatware is causing the issues. After I use a app that restarts everything (Fast Reboot) the system will be showing about 300mb of free memory is available. If you wait 30 minutes, the system then says less than 150mb of free memory available. I really do think that some of the bloatware is causing performance issues and memory leaks.
What is also weird is that I have had 4 Sensations with the same exact apps on them. I have noticed a difference in speed between all 4 of them. The one that I have now is the quickest and there is no stutter at all. The second one I had was lagging so bad that I just returned it for another. This tells me it's all software related.
Mine doesn't really lag but I can't get that carousel effect anymore. I've learned that if the phone works well keep it cuz you never know what kind of crappy replacement you might get
Hi buds
I bought my xXoom recently, about two weeks, and i been having some questions aboutit.
I dont know if there is really some problem, but i think i should askfirst.
First of all,...
I love to play games and, yesterday, i installed Shadowgun on my device. It was quite cesappointing to see that it runs not with that beautiful graphics, it looks like it needs aanti-aliasing, and the game is runing in 30- fps.
Ok,i tried other games too, and all of them looks like there is a lack of anti aliasing. Is this normal?
Another issue ihave is the web browsing, using default browser and dolphin hd... i must sayit is nothing smooth it freezes for some milliseconds, take a lot of timeto load pages( my internet is 15mb).
And posting this thread using xoom i get a lot of delay while typing.
Please, guys, is this the normalperormane of stock, or there is anyproblemand i should seek RMAA or warranty?
Desperatly need to know. Thanks for the attention.
I hate the stock performance since I've rooted and running overclocked cpu/gpu from almost as soon as I got the Xoom. TIAMAT makes the Xoom fly.
for xda, chg it to classic view.. scroll to the bottom n u will c this option
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Hi buds
I bought my xXoom recently, about two weeks, and i been having some questions aboutit.
I dont know if there is really some problem, but i think i should askfirst.
First of all,...
I love to play games and, yesterday, i installed Shadowgun on my device. It was quite cesappointing to see that it runs not with that beautiful graphics, it looks like it needs aanti-aliasing, and the game is runing in 30- fps.
Ok,i tried other games too, and all of them looks like there is a lack of anti aliasing. Is this normal?
Another issue ihave is the web browsing, using default browser and dolphin hd... i must sayit is nothing smooth it freezes for some milliseconds, take a lot of timeto load pages( my internet is 15mb).
And posting this thread using xoom i get a lot of delay while typing.
Please, guys, is this the normalperormane of stock, or there is anyproblemand i should seek RMAA or warranty?
Desperatly need to know. Thanks for the attention.
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About the jaggies you're talking about...are you using the zoom in/stretch to fit feature with games/apps that are still only sized for phone screens? Otherwise, the Xoom has a good gpu and graphics are quite smooth if in the right resolution. Also, Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0) may fix this issue as it is bridging the divide between phones and tabs.
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About the jaggies you're talking about...are you using the zoom in/stretch to fit feature with games/apps that are still only sized for phone screens? Otherwise, the Xoom has a good gpu and graphics are quite smooth if in the right resolution. Also, Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0) may fix this issue as it is bridging the divide between phones and tabs.
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Hey, bud.
Here you are helping ,me again!
IF there was a "10x Thanks" Buttom i would use it!! =)
Man, i didn't understood the "are you using the zoom in/stretch to fit feature with games/apps that are still only sized for phone screens?".
I'm using Xoom as it came for me. =)
What i really noticed, and, for me, is strange, is that on Youtube, i watched a video of a guy running shadowgun and the performance/overall graphics was a lot better.(you know, what i noticed is that there is a lack of anti-aliasing on the game running on mine) than mine.
And when i run 9mm HD, the situation is worst. It runs at like >30fps.
Well, i will give a try on the root later(just gathering some courage =D) and will post the results.
I really hope an improvement, man, otherwise, such HD games would be impossible to play.
And another problem i noticed, when using the Xoom for a lotta time is that it heats a lot. Not too much , to burn my hands, and that i must to Shut it Down, but enough for me to put it in front of a Fan.
And one last question...
With the Root and OC, the processor's lifetime will lower??
Thanks again, man.
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Hey, bud.
Here you are helping ,me again!
IF there was a "10x Thanks" Buttom i would use it!! =)
Man, i didn't understood the "are you using the zoom in/stretch to fit feature with games/apps that are still only sized for phone screens?".
I'm using Xoom as it came for me. =)
What i really noticed, and, for me, is strange, is that on Youtube, i watched a video of a guy running shadowgun and the performance/overall graphics was a lot better.(you know, what i noticed is that there is a lack of anti-aliasing on the game running on mine) than mine.
And when i run 9mm HD, the situation is worst. It runs at like >30fps.
Well, i will give a try on the root later(just gathering some courage =D) and will post the results.
I really hope an improvement, man, otherwise, such HD games would be impossible to play.
And another problem i noticed, when using the Xoom for a lotta time is that it heats a lot. Not too much , to burn my hands, and that i must to Shut it Down, but enough for me to put it in front of a Fan.
And one last question...
With the Root and OC, the processor's lifetime will lower??
Thanks again, man.
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If the app or game is only configured for a phone's resolution, you might see it 'blown up' which may show jaggies. Do you see a little x icon in the system tray,near the clock? If you touch it, it will give you a choice whether to zoom to fit or stretch to fit. Zoom to fit usually looks better.
On the lagginess you are experiencing, I think rooting and overclocking the cpu plus using an over clocked gpu kernel will resolve that problem. If you're running hot, you may be pushing it a bit hard. If you root, you can set a temperature profile so that your clockspeed will decrease once you hit a pre-defined temp.
We don't really know if overclocking will make a lot of difference in the cpu's life...just enjoy at a stable oc speed and if it burns out, get a newer tab.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.burakgon.gamebooster&hl=en_GB
I know that the same changes can be achieved through other (free) means , but i was wondering if anyone tried it?.. i have a friend that swears it works.
Yeah I have it on my phone and I'm using it together with Ram Booster v1.25 (need to test it without the latter to see just how much that contributes). The result is I'm playing NOVA 3 in all it's full HD glory with very little lag. The game does run a 'tad' bit slower in general but because it's uniform throughout the game it just feels like it's the way it's meant to be played.
Really? Wow thats great to hear , i might buy it to see if its really worth it.
Have you tried using autokiller , ram manager or V6 supercharger though?
Looks interesting. Would love to see if there's a free alternative though.
Okay maybe its a placebo effect , but im getting playable framerates when i use it in combination with Ram Manager pro on hard gaming, playing The Amazing Spiderman . AFAIK Gamebooster also does something similar to RMP , but it seems to be less agressive .
I also have supercharger , but i only use it to lock my launcher , nothing else.
Hey Drivenby, been a long and busy day at the studio so haven't had an opportunity to get back to you till now. Haven't used autokiller , ram manager or V6 supercharger, will have a look at them. I am using Chainfire 3D Pro however to increase the graphical quality of some of my games (like NOVA 3), but you probably figured that already.
This all shuts down all the other apps and even prevents the them from trying to boot and regains system memory.
It has its own overcloked setting after ultra gaming mode but I then can normally be change it. I really recommend this app.
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Tried it with Metal Slug 3 but got to the same bit as I usually get to before the phone starts lagging like hell (Was In Ultra Mode Aswell)
Yeah it really depends on what type of system you are running . The app does work for some games but its obviously not adding more ram or doing the developers job of optimizing a game for our specific GPU . Some games do seem to work better with Ram Manager Pro on hardgaming , rather than Gameboost.
And ultra doesnt really overclock , it just sets the governor to performance , as far as i can tell. The dev claims it lowers other processes too but i dont know how to check if thats true or not.
on my opinion , gamebooster is better that rambooster and ram manager, it decreased glitch on my phone , now it's easy to play BATMAN
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Yeah it really depends on what type of system you are running . The app does work for some games but its obviously not adding more ram or doing the developers job of optimizing a game for our specific GPU . Some games do seem to work better with Ram Manager Pro on hardgaming , rather than Gameboost.
And ultra doesnt really overclock , it just sets the governor to performance , as far as i can tell. The dev claims it lowers other processes too but i dont know how to check if thats true or not.
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The Governor is set to performance And cru speed changed to 1.2Ghz
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I honestly doubt that an app can overclock my stock kernel so easily.
Besides , Rom manager shows 1024 and gover performance. Nothing about 1.2ghz
This app made some games that ran smooth blotchy when I set to hardcore. I have been running v6 for a long time so it may be fighting each other for control. Hard to say. Still thanks for sharing. Sure a lot of people will like this app while others maybe not so much
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Yeah about v6, AFAIK it changes the oom kill values, which game booster does too, so there might be some conflict.
On my experience v6 is excellent to increase performance with the Android ui and multitasking, it makes everything really snappy but at a cost.
Let's say you have the regular stock launcher and have 3 o 4 widgets and a billion icons... If you have supercharge your launcher you might make it nearly impossible for the system to kill when needed.
I think that running most games, you should have no problem with this, but with the likes of recent game loft games that are known resource hogs, you really need everything the device has to offer, and while killing the launcher might make your device post game laggy for a couple of seconds, the whole point of the xperia play is to play games and if you can't do that well, it kinda defeats the purpose.
Right now I'm trying to keep the lightest configuration possible, while still getting everything I need and more.
Currently using lightning launcher, because it's fast, simple and runs with as little as 6 mb. Only one widget too. I guess I could try super charging it, but android has never killed it that I noticed, or maybe it just redraws super quickly.
Personally went back to ram manager pro, I think the ultra settings for game booster are not optimal for gaming or something, I swear I'm getting more ram but less performance, which doesn't really makes sense but whatever.
Also it has a couple of bugs that need to be ironed out. I'll check it again when the next version comes out.
Sent from my R800i using Tapatalk 2
Will this work with phone with locked boot loaders but rooted? I really want to know because it said of but I have a stock kernel but I'm rooted.
LAcube said:
Will this work with phone with locked boot loaders but rooted? I really want to know because it said of but I have a stock kernel but I'm rooted.
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Yea it will work no problem
Sent from my R800a using XDA App
version 1.4 is out
Could anyone make test in benchamrk? With and without this program?
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i can't actually disable it. it just doesn't work. >.>
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i can't actually disable it. it just doesn't work. >.>
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Yes it worked. If it can't work try reinstalling busybox.
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Though I used to play lots of games, I have not had a chance to play them for awhile. I certainly did not buy tablet for the purpose of gaming but the other day I saw pretty stunning graphics and decent review about "Horn", so I ended up purchasing it.
Let's talk about some positive aspect of the Infinity, which is "gaming".
1. Tegra Zone
Tegra chips being the major line of Android Tablet, slowly but surely seem to see a growth of Tegra optimized games. Some of these are quite impressive in its graphics even compared to the portable gaming devices.
I only have one game from Tegra Zone, which is "Horn" but its quick and easy to play with stunning graphics. The other game I am looking forward to is Wild Blood, which uses Unreal Engine.
Hardware wise, other high end android tablets should have no issue supporting these games, but simply due to number of devices out there, I believe Tegra chip based device continues to see its exclusive support on high end tablet gaming.
2. Playstation Mobile Certified
The launch date has just been announced as 10/3 during Tokyo Game Show.
Though not specifically stated Infinity is one of the device included, ASUS is one of the company included in the playstation mobile certified device developer so it is natural to think Infinity be one of the device supported.
Personally, no big game at this point yet but certainly nice expansion to have.
Here is the list of games currently on market (presumably for Sony's Tablet S): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_Mobile_games
The official list of new games with launch in Japan can be seen here: http://www.jp.playstation.com/psn/psm/
There will be around 30 games or so initially, and more to come with developer kit releasing in November to further stimulate the game development on Android devices.
Update:
9/24/2012
According to zenaxe, EA games are not compatible with Transformer Infinity. So if you intend to play their games, this would be minus point.
Considering that at current state I cannot play any game no longer than 5 minutes before crashing, I am not so keen about gaming on this tablet anymore.
Also it doesn't make any sense why some people can play and others don't. Before update also no problems with my gaming..
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This is good news. I was really hoping I would see a Final Fantasy game or Chrono Trigger on that list though!
rikkoko said:
This is good news. I was really hoping I would see a Final Fantasy game or Chrono Trigger on that list though!
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Well Square Enix has its own online store so not sure if they will continue to use it or jump onto the Playstation Mobile bandwagon. Though there is almost no doubt that they will continue support Android as supposedly FFIII alone made them $700,000 in first a few weeks just on Android platform.
Considering that at current state I cannot play any game no longer than 5 minutes before crashing, I am not so keen about gaming on this tablet anymore.
Also it doesn't make any sense why some people can play and others don't. Before update also no problems with my gaming..
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Is there a specific game that you cannot play? I can give a try if its free to see if its an issue across the board.
So far I have no issue playing any of games I installed, which are not many a few Japanese specific games, FF III, and most recently Horn. I have never had any crash or force close on any of these games. But I have not made any build prop change other than market place change. I'm on stock rom .30 version with bloatware turned off.
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Is there a specific game that you cannot play? I can give a try if its free to see if its an issue across the board.
So far I have no issue playing any of games I installed, which are not many a few Japanese specific games, FF III, and most recently Horn. I have never had any crash or force close on any of these games. But I have not made any build prop change other than market place change. I'm on stock rom .30 version with bloatware turned off.
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Well the worst thing is that it is not consistant. I can get every game crash and yet if I reboot the machine than I can play every game.
Have had crashes with every single game I have played. But if I reboot and then start playing no problems. I dont think that high end tablet should work like this especially when the booting time is actually quite slow..
HoushaSen - would you mind trying Raging Thunder and Raging Thunder 2 - both are free in the store.
Maybe if they work on yours you can give me a little insight on making them work on mine.
Thanks!
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Well the worst thing is that it is not consistant. I can get every game crash and yet if I reboot the machine than I can play every game.
Have had crashes with every single game I have played. But if I reboot and then start playing no problems. I dont think that high end tablet should work like this especially when the booting time is actually quite slow..
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Well I agree. What's tough here is probably depending on what you have installed in background etc. But either way, with high end tablet that should not matter.. I don't have much running in background. Bloatware turned off. Only real widget I have is news 360 and ASUS weather. Also, I have tons of video and ebooks, which I store in microsd rather than harddrive. So my harddrive still have tons of space open. You don't have build.prop tweak do you? Because I did that before and I had my first ever random os reboot afterwards. So this time I have not touched anything on build.prop. (Though it may had nothing to do with..)
One thing that your case raises concern is, is there any memory leak? (I don't know how Android OS deals with memory leak).
HoushaSen - would you mind trying Raging Thunder and Raging Thunder 2 - both are free in the store.
Maybe if they work on yours you can give me a little insight on making them work on mine.
Thanks!
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I tried Raging Thunder 2. I was able to complete a single race without a issue. Do you know when you get error?
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Well I agree. What's tough here is probably depending on what you have installed in background etc. But either way, with high end tablet that should not matter.. I don't have much running in background. Bloatware turned off. Only real widget I have is news 360 and ASUS weather. Also, I have tons of video and ebooks, which I store in microsd rather than harddrive. So my harddrive still have tons of space open. You don't have build.prop tweak do you? Because I did that before and I had my first ever random os reboot afterwards. So this time I have not touched anything on build.prop. (Though it may had nothing to do with..)
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No build props or anything. Completely stock.
But yes i have quite a lot of widgets. It could be that they hog memory and result in bad user experience while gaming.
HD widgets, business calendar, gmail, email, youtube, zinio, g+, facebook, flighttrack and hanping chinese..
It could be that these reserve memory and then when playing games problems start. Nevertheless I have quite similar widgets on my phone and there no problems.
Maybe should try without widgets how it goes..
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No build props or anything. Completely stock.
But yes i have quite a lot of widgets. It could be that they hog memory and result in bad user experience while gaming.
HD widgets, business calendar, gmail, email, youtube, zinio, g+, facebook, flighttrack and hanping chinese..
It could be that these reserve memory and then when playing games problems start. Nevertheless I have quite similar widgets on my phone and there no problems.
Maybe should try without widgets how it goes..
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Maybe you have memory leak or memory hog. Also, one thing I really noticed performance difference is turning bloatware off. Afterall, Infinity only has 1GB RAM, which is still standard but not that much memory if you think about. But try with widget off, and potentially bloatware off and see if you can fix the issue. As I am sure it would be helpful to others.
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Let's talk about some positive aspect of the Infinity, which is "gaming".
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LOL. GAMING is the only thing I'm completely UNSATISFIED with on the Infinity. Nearly every console style game I own crashes. Trying to demo it for someone is a freaking exercise in embarrassment. EA has even marked the 700 as incompatible on a lot of their stuff where it was compatible with previous TFs.
This is a systemic problem, btw, it is not a "bad" tablet. I have owned five TF series tablets and every single one of them has been exactly like this. So, really gaming is probably the last thing I would call out as a bright spot on the ASUS tabs.
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This is good news. I was really hoping I would see a Final Fantasy game or Chrono Trigger on that list though!
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I can already play Chrono Trigger and Virtually any FF game up through the PS1 era. Look up FPSe and Super GNES on the market/google. Emulators do run fairly well.
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LOL. GAMING is the only thing I'm completely UNSATISFIED with on the Infinity. Nearly every console style game I own crashes. Trying to demo it for someone is a freaking exercise in embarrassment. EA has even marked the 700 as incompatible on a lot of their stuff where it was compatible with previous TFs.
This is a systemic problem, btw, it is not a "bad" tablet. I have owned five TF series tablets and every single one of them has been exactly like this. So, really gaming is probably the last thing I would call out as a bright spot on the ASUS tabs.
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Well I guess you are probably correct as majority of US user probably favors EA games over the PS games or Tegra games. I would admit that I play non of EA games, so I did not know. All I know is there were issue with playing Horn (Tegra optimized game) on Galaxy Note 10.1, which has better overall processing power and hardware.
Having said that, I know there are games I cannot play from Japanese store as simply not made for tablet and probably never will. So yes. you are correct on that regard. I will add EA incompatibility. Thanks for the info.
I tried to play horn but it always crashed immediately. Then pissed and rooted. Froze all bloatware and tadaa. Horn plays very well and not a single crash this far
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CandyAndy said:
I tried to play horn but it always crashed immediately. Then pissed and rooted. Froze all bloatware and tadaa. Horn plays very well and not a single crash this far
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Oh... You didn't have to root. You could turn off bloatware without rooting. But now since you have rooted, I recommend browser2ram.apk, which boosts browser performance somewhat. But I really think the most effective thing I did was turning off bloatware. Build.prop tweak is supposedly great too, but I haven't done it and performance is still what I wanted to be so I'd rather not touch anything extra.
But I'm glad, you got it work and Horn is cool game isn't it? (It was sort of my main theme for this thread...)
I shall take it back what I just said it crashed and now again won't even boot up. Just black screen. Probably reboot of tablet would resolve this but I don't think we should be doing that all the time
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CandyAndy said:
I shall take it back what I just said it crashed and now again won't even boot up. Just black screen. Probably reboot of tablet would resolve this but I don't think we should be doing that all the time
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Sorry to hear that. If it worked fine for a while and crashed, it sound more and more like memory leak on one of your app. Any suspicious software? If so, how about turning it off and see if it makes difference?
Where is Browser2RAM?
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Oh... You didn't have to root. You could turn off bloatware without rooting. But now since you have rooted, I recommend browser2ram.apk, which boosts browser performance somewhat. But I really think the most effective thing I did was turning off bloatware. Build.prop tweak is supposedly great too, but I haven't done it and performance is still what I wanted to be so I'd rather not touch anything extra.
But I'm glad, you got it work and Horn is cool game isn't it? (It was sort of my main theme for this thread...)
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Where can I find the Browser2RAM.apk? It's not on Google Play.
Thank you.
CandyAndy said:
I shall take it back what I just said it crashed and now again won't even boot up. Just black screen. Probably reboot of tablet would resolve this but I don't think we should be doing that all the time
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using XDA Premium HD app
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So as part of my other thread, I actually did couple additional testing (mainly for I/O effect). I run 1.1GB file transfer over the AirDroid in background and launched Final Fantasy 3, which had no issue. In fact, I couldn't even tell the difference in launching speed and actual game play compared to no background.
On the contrary, launching of Horn took much longer and I saw ANR, which I have not seen for a while on my infinity. So basically, I hypothesize here that some of your application in background may have high I/O access or you have memory leak in your application. The latter is not proven here.
But in any event, even on my machine which generally runs Horn totally fine can become problematic when you have stress in a background so definitely I think something in your background is the issue, which you may well know already but just wanted to let you know that I can sort of confirm this.
Where can I find the Browser2RAM.apk? It's not on Google Play.
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Here: http://www.transformerforums.com/fo...5-fix-browser-not-responding-browser2ram.html
But remember this only works if you root the system and have superuser access. If you feel like your browser is running fine, you may not even need this. I do feel like I got performance boost on stock browser, but other browser's like Boat browser seems pretty much the same (relatively fast before and still equally fast).
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Where can I find the Browser2RAM.apk? It's not on Google Play.
Thank you.
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Just a heads up that browser 2 ram will not have any impact on gaming, it could even theoretically have a negative impact on it if it fragments memory or causes less to be available for other process somehow... but it should help www browsing that is limited by eMMC I/O. I do not have many issues with browsing performance so I don't find b2ram to be very useful personally..
On the other hand, bloatware removal could theoretically help with games since it might reduce memory fragmentation over time by reducing the number of apps and services running (I have done this but it hasn't had a measurable impact for me).
Also, be aware that build.prop tweaks do have a non-zero risk associated with them. I have soft bricked a TF before with a bad build.prop edit. Make sure you have a working adb/fastboot setup at the very least before doing a build.prop hack.
Something easy to try that might really work: Get FMR memory cleaner from the market. Run it before running your game. Also, if it is crashing right at startup try clearing its cache/data (you will lose any save games/data, if you do this, though).
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Just a heads up that browser 2 ram will not have any impact on gaming, it could even theoretically have a negative impact on it if it fragments memory or causes less to be available for other process somehow... but it should help www browsing that is limited by eMMC I/O. I do not have many issues with browsing performance so I don't find b2ram to be very useful personally..
On the other hand, bloatware removal could theoretically help with games since it might reduce memory fragmentation over time by reducing the number of apps and services running (I have done this but it hasn't had a measurable impact for me).
Also, be aware that build.prop tweaks do have a non-zero risk associated with them. I have soft bricked a TF before with a bad build.prop edit. Make sure you have a working adb/fastboot setup at the very least before doing a build.prop hack.
Something easy to try that might really work: Get FMR memory cleaner from the market. Run it before running your game. Also, if it is crashing right at startup try clearing its cache/data (you will lose any save games/data, if you do this, though).
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May be you can answer. What's the IO issue that you are facing right now? As I write more about this, and test... I am start getting a bit lost. Because when I had original two units back in July and August, I got constant ANR with browser, PDF file reading. System almost froze while I download applications from market.
I have stock with browser2ram, bloatware turned off, but no build.prop tweaks, and essentially don't see any of above anymore. The game I cannot play is simply I cannot. It's just not supported on this device. But games that runs, runs smoothly like Horn, which is probably one of the most high end graphics game right now until Unreal Engine 3 game released.
As far as your theory of eMMC affecting browser is something I am not so certain. Simply because if that is the case why would some browsers works much faster such as Firefox (which crashes too often so I don't use) but fast. Boat browser, which is stable and fast. Sure they are not as fast as Galaxy Note 10.1 stock browser, but in galaxy note 10.1, I didn't even noticed much difference in speed between the stock and other third party browsers. Sure sunspider test results were different but practical loading page speed, I couldn't tell the difference so I kept using stock on Note. Could this have been because better eMMC? I have a feeling not. Again because if that's the case all third party browser should be even much faster on that device. Would it be because of 2GB ram? Don't know. Could be but browser application demanding such huge RAM seem a bit too excessive. So my guess is actually Samsung's software. The touch wiz is highly customized on their platform like stock video player, stock browser can support multitask. So Samsung definitely went into source code level of those application and edited. So during that process, they may have optimized the browser. How can I confirm this? Probably no way unless I can talk to Samsung Developer, but it's probably same as the logic of blaming on eMMC.
Any tools to check which applications use I/O in the background?
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I just bought this device as a toy and a test as a computer tablet. I found it to be slow and buggy. I do notice that in browsing heavy pages like the real facebook page it IS faster than my Galaxy Note 1 but in almost everything else, the Note is faster and snappier. I have disabled lots of apps, resett it, no change. So my question, I guess this one is really worth rooting and installing a good rom Im used to the Cyanogen to my phones, is Cyanogen working good for this tablet?
Im still marveled by the quality of the screen, I dont think I ever have seen such a good screen! If I just now could get it working somewhat near as good as my Note 1 I will be a happy panda
Thanx in advance peeps
My experience is that it is NOT slow and buggy.
I could compare it with an iPad3 last week and I think they are very close.
You can't compare it with a note because due to the much higher resolution the gpu has to do so much more computing. That is why the nexus7 is faster than the tf700 due to it's smaller screen AND resolution
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I just bought this device as a toy and a test as a computer tablet. I found it to be slow and buggy. I do notice that in browsing heavy pages like the real facebook page it IS faster than my Galaxy Note 1 but in almost everything else, the Note is faster and snappier. I have disabled lots of apps, resett it, no change. So my question, I guess this one is really worth rooting and installing a good rom Im used to the Cyanogen to my phones, is Cyanogen working good for this tablet?
Im still marveled by the quality of the screen, I dont think I ever have seen such a good screen! If I just now could get it working somewhat near as good as my Note 1 I will be a happy panda
Thanx in advance peeps
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I'm on stock rom with browser2ram and force2gpu enabled. My table is very fast. Just remember before you flash a new rom, just do factory reset(data wipe 3 times). Also root is good (allow you to install rooted app like Titinium backup, SetcPU etc..), but don't unlock unless absolutely necessary (void your warranty), or you have time or like to play with custom rom.
Ok, sounds like I will root it then and try to tweak it, Im not satisfied with the speed with it sofar. Its seems stable now after I resetted it, before the reset, it crasched 2-10 times a day. My idea was that since the GPU and CPU is older in the Note, The Tegra 3 would be able to handle the FullHD resolution but it doesnt seem to .. I definatly want a ROM without the garbage crap
I plan to use it to write alot on, can you recommend a good office app? Or a browser that google docs work good with
Is games running good for you?? The new demanding ones I tried before resetting was really slow and laggy.
Thanx for the replys, I hope I get this baby running smoother
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Ok, sounds like I will root it then and try to tweak it, Im not satisfied with the speed with it sofar. Its seems stable now after I resetted it, before the reset, it crasched 2-10 times a day. My idea was that since the GPU and CPU is older in the Note, The Tegra 3 would be able to handle the FullHD resolution but it doesnt seem to .. I definatly want a ROM without the garbage crap
I plan to use it to write alot on, can you recommend a good office app? Or a browser that google docs work good with
Is games running good for you?? The new demanding ones I tried before resetting was really slow and laggy.
Thanx for the replys, I hope I get this baby running smoother
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Yes, all games, videos, pictures, and documents and apps are function normally. There are 3 most popular office apps:
1. Documents to go (this can view google docs also. Paid version only)
2. Kingsoft office
3. Polaris office (currently polaris has a bug with fonts).
My stock browser can view google docs fine. I think stock browser is the best in my opinion (have tried boat, chrome, mozilla etc...)
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My idea was that since the GPU and CPU is older in the Note, The Tegra 3 would be able to handle the FullHD resolution but it doesnt seem to .. I definatly want a ROM without the garbage crap
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The Infinity's performance is not CPU bound and is not due to the higher res. It's I/O limited. The CPU is plenty fast enough. As soon as the memory config requires the system to start hitting the /sdcard memory, the system will be subject to random stuttering/pausing because the sdcard memory is the cheapest, slowest, crappiest flash RAM ASUS could find.
This is why stuff like browser2ram is seen as a huge boost for people that do a lot of browsing and it is also why the stuttering varies from user to user/session to session since the RAM situation in the system varies from config to config and moment to moment during use. Some users who's config has a lot of free DRAM and do not frequently use stuff that hits the sdcard partition hard, see almost no performance issues with the tablet.
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The Infinity's performance is not CPU bound and is not due to the higher res. It's I/O limited. The CPU is plenty fast enough. As soon as the memory config requires the system to start hitting the /sdcard memory, the system will be subject to random stuttering/pausing because the sdcard memory is the cheapest, slowest, crappiest flash RAM ASUS could find.
This is why stuff like browser2ram is seen as a huge boost for people that do a lot of browsing and it is also why the stuttering varies from user to user/session to session since the RAM situation in the system varies from config to config and moment to moment during use. Some users who's config has a lot of free DRAM and do not frequently use stuff that hits the sdcard partition hard, see almost no performance issues with the tablet.
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Well,
I guess I'm going to do the downgrade to ICS .30\root\then try the rootkreeper deal back to Belly Jean.
I really don't want to go thru all this, but if I want to keep chipping away trying to find a better Android experience then so be it.
Pain in the ass...
Thanx for the info! That was my biggest thoughts about the Infinity, "is the RAM enough?" and it isnt but then Ill just have to multitask less and try to tweak it. And perhaps dont install multipicture wallpaper.. but thats one of the things that I love about my Note
buhoitr: thanx for the suggestions, Ill try them and see
What rom would you suggest for getting the most out of the Infinity?
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The Infinity's performance is not CPU bound and is not due to the higher res. It's I/O limited. The CPU is plenty fast enough. As soon as the memory config requires the system to start hitting the /sdcard memory, the system will be subject to random stuttering/pausing because the sdcard memory is the cheapest, slowest, crappiest flash RAM ASUS could find.
This is why stuff like browser2ram is seen as a huge boost for people that do a lot of browsing and it is also why the stuttering varies from user to user/session to session since the RAM situation in the system varies from config to config and moment to moment during use. Some users who's config has a lot of free DRAM and do not frequently use stuff that hits the sdcard partition hard, see almost no performance issues with the tablet.
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hobs0n said:
I just bought this device as a toy and a test as a computer tablet. I found it to be slow and buggy. I do notice that in browsing heavy pages like the real facebook page it IS faster than my Galaxy Note 1 but in almost everything else, the Note is faster and snappier. I have disabled lots of apps, resett it, no change. So my question, I guess this one is really worth rooting and installing a good rom Im used to the Cyanogen to my phones, is Cyanogen working good for this tablet?
Im still marveled by the quality of the screen, I dont think I ever have seen such a good screen! If I just now could get it working somewhat near as good as my Note 1 I will be a happy panda
Thanx in advance peeps
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Hmmm, I've found mine to be quick and virtually bug-free, but then again I didn't buy it as a toy.
A little tweaking and I wouldn't call it slow. Even stock its a solid piece of equipment.
Apply data2sd mod built for CleanROM 2 after installing the ROM. You'll need a fast sd card.
Research the threads. The blob for data2sd for that ROM was just posted today.
look at my I/O!
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I own both the Infinity and the Acer a700 and after the a700 got JB earlier today, I will say that the Infinity lags more than the a700 (and I was very happy with the Infinity). Colour me shocked.
The only time I really ever experience any lag or sluggishness is when browsing. I will be rooting once there is a method discovered for Jelly Bean on the Infinity. I'd really like to give browser2ram a shot. I've heard it does wonders for browsing.
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Better than ever
Before i say thing, I will list the important things about my tablet - C7 model, Has been repaired for speaker issues & Jelly bean 4.1.1. I'd say TF700T is a powerful device, It lacks the software for it. I use to notice quiet a bit of lag on ICS but after upgraded to Jelly bean, It's faster than ever! I would even compare it to iPad 3:laugh: I'm running Stock Jelly bean with a bit of removing apps here and there.
I Don't know why everyone is having problems with such a decent device.
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Before i say thing, I will list the important things about my tablet - C7 model, Has been repaired for speaker issues & Jelly bean 4.1.1. I'd say TF700T is a powerful device, It lacks the software for it. I use to notice quiet a bit of lag on ICS but after upgraded to Jelly bean, It's faster than ever! I would even compare it to iPad 3:laugh: I'm running Stock Jelly bean with a bit of removing apps here and there.
I Don't know why everyone is having problems with such a decent device.
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I you guys would read the Development section (read the newer threads, please) you would see that CleanROM2.2 has pretty much completely eliminated the lag and i/o issues. It's reason enough to root and unlock. This tablet is a beast when it is allowed to begin to reach its full potential.
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I you guys would read the Development section (read the newer threads, please) you would see that CleanROM2.2 has pretty much completely eliminated the lag and i/o issues. It's reason enough to root and unlock. This tablet is a beast when it is allowed to begin to reach its full potential.
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Im rooted and installed CleanRom2.2 this morning and it is indeed faster and smoother i will try the tweaking you guys suggested later. It still lagged when i downloaded my spotify playlists while i was downloading youtube movies tho
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I you guys would read the Development section (read the newer threads, please) you would see that CleanROM2.2 has pretty much completely eliminated the lag and i/o issues. It's reason enough to root and unlock. This tablet is a beast when it is allowed to begin to reach its full potential.
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I think CleanROM 2.2 is the route I'm going to go too...that's if I can figure out how to do it without asking a bunch of dumbs**t questions.
Still reading about it in development.
I'm getting more and more disappointed with this TF700T each time I turn it on lately...
Did really dig it for a while...not anymore
Will i unlock? No...
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I think CleanROM 2.2 is the route I'm going to go too...that's if I can figure out how to do it without asking a bunch of dumbs**t questions.
Still reading about it in development.
I'm getting more and more disappointed with this TF700T each time I turn it on lately...
Did really dig it for a while...not anymore
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If it was really laggy and something that i can't deal with i would unlock but since it feels flawless, I might stay. I don't give a crap about their warranty but i do care for my device (brick)
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I use to notice quiet a bit of lag on ICS but after upgraded to Jelly bean, It's faster than ever!
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It's the total opposite for me. ICS was fast and virtually lag-free. The latest updates to Jellybean my Infinity lags like nobody's business. Very disappointing. Looks like root'n'rom time.
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I'm on stock rom with browser2ram and force2gpu enabled.
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What is force2gpu?
(google seems to give irrelevant results).
Thx
squigs said:
What is force2gpu?
(google seems to give irrelevant results).
Thx
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If I may attempt an answer,
I believe that's a reference to the "force gpu rendering" in settings under developer options.
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