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Desire Z or Nexus S??

Should I trade in my Desire Z for the Nexus S?
I'm mostly after browser speed and everyday performance
What happened to the nexus sense port? I had a galaxy S before and it was always slower to the original desire but with ginger on the NS it just might do the trick.
Are you guys satisfied with the NS especially coming from other android devices?

If browsing speed is your priority, I would suggest you wait a bit. Currently the stock browser is rather laggy.

Laggy even with overclock, custom roms (cyanogen, nscollab and infinity) ?
Does cyanogen have the auto text reflow function?

I use my Nexus S since 3 months. It's fabulous.
Choose the right ROM and Kernel! It will be smoothest!
Great experience during 2 days without any charge or FC.

GNS is a very nice device. Buy GNS and flash CM, then enjoy)

Nexus S all the way. Desire Z is old news. I'd rather choose Desire S

Personally it was a bad idea to ask for an advice in a nexus s forum . lol.
anyway, a fair answer for me would be, there is no big deal of a difference between the 2 phones. If you were to buy one of these, then i would have said nexus s but since you already possess the dz, then no need to make the change. speedwise they are the same. the difference maybe comes from the gpu but you said you are only for browsing experience. i think you should stick to the dz until you get something better.
you do have amazing devs back there... i am sure finding a good custom rom is not a problem.

Just 3 hours ago, SuperAOSP Rom created by SUPERTAMEL, has changed the whole browser system
No more lagging issue, just pure enjoyment of browsing
I guess, you come to Nexus S in the right time

Development on the Desire Z has pretty much stalled with the keyboard being the biggest limitation. Even the Desire has better roms for gingerbread. I've owned a SGS before and the browser was indeed a little slow so I should expect performance to be on par to that. The SGS wasn't that bad but I switched to the Z mainly because of the LED flash which is very important to me as a flashlight
What ever happened to the NS sense port? I was looking at some vids over at youtube and they looked really smooth with some minor issues and non working features but nevertheless usable! Was the 0.3 build the one that caused the problem with the IMEI? What exactly happened?
What's the difference in real life performance between SuperAOSP, INfinity and Cyan?
Netarchy is the best kernal option available right? In layman's terms, what does proton voltage do and how do I know what settings to use?
Thanks for helping a NS noobie

kingofthebraves said:
Development on the Desire Z has pretty much stalled with the keyboard being the biggest limitation. Even the Desire has better roms for gingerbread. I've owned a SGS before and the browser was indeed a little slow so I should expect performance to be on par to that. The SGS wasn't that bad but I switched to the Z mainly because of the LED flash which is very important to me as a flashlight
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So Nexus S has the flash light you need, issue solve
What ever happened to the NS sense port? I was looking at some vids over at youtube and they looked really smooth with some minor issues and non working features but nevertheless usable! Was the 0.3 build the one that caused the problem with the IMEI? What exactly happened?
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Well, sadly that Samsung has put the most important file "EFS" at a very insecure place. And, we never realise that until we find that Nexus Sense has "wiped" the whole EFS data too, making all the IMEI number being the same
So far everyone is trying to get it fix, not a single news yet, but soon
What's the difference in real life performance between SuperAOSP, INfinity and Cyan?
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SUperAOSP, is the rom created with extra setting known as SupSetup
Infinity is created by Jonathan Griggs where he is very keen in ANdroid and added lots of different features.
Cyan 7 is the nightly build where different bugs and fixes are keep updated and fixed.
Kang's Cyan is the lighter and better version of Cyan 7.
Muiu is the Iphone version of Android (Use this rom if you like iOS interface)
Netarchy is the best kernal option available right? In layman's terms, what does proton voltage do and how do I know what settings to use?
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Netarchy or Trinity. Both are equally good.
Both has OC and UV kernel.
Proton voltage let you customize the voltage you wanna set for each frequency and it's only usable for Netarchy kernel.
No one is a noob, everyone is equal

I come from a desire and i am very much dissapointed in the browsing experience of this phone. It's not hardware accelerated so rendering flash content or bigger images is a pain. If your only looking for that, better stick with the desire z. I've tried all roms btw and I always end up using opera mobile.

lvnatic said:
I come from a desire and i am very much dissapointed in the browsing experience of this phone. It's not hardware accelerated so rendering flash content or bigger images is a pain. If your only looking for that, better stick with the desire z. I've tried all roms btw and I always end up using opera mobile.
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well opera mobile is awesome! I jus don't like how they setup Google search. other than that opera mobile makes browsing experience on the NS very smooth
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA Premium App

So no real difference in performance between cm7, kangs, infinity and superaosp except preference? What's the best rom for me if I need BLN and vibrate on call answer?
How do I know the best settings for photon? Or can I just use default?
Finally got my phone and this thing is wicked fast! I've never experienced a phone out of the box this good! Screen is yellowish as usual though Speakerphone volume is excellent as well!
Browser seems to be very good, not super fluid but good enough. Not as stuttery as my old SGS. Mighty tempted not to flash a custom rom because it's already very good!

Cm7 is recommended, it will change the experience totally and it has text reflow after zoom. I personally use the nightlies a lot but it's up to you, they might be laggy sometimes.

kingofthebraves said:
So no real difference in performance between cm7, kangs, infinity and superaosp except preference? What's the best rom for me if I need BLN and vibrate on call answer?
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Well, I would like you to try SUPERAOSP first, then only CM7
Netarchy Kernel or Trinity Kernel would do the job for your BLN and vibrate
How do I know the best settings for photon? Or can I just use default?
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Just use the suggested voltage.
Or you can use mine too.
I tested and using it for 3 weeks haven had any reboots or lag.
-100mv for 100,200,400,800mhz
-50mv for 1000,1200
1400mv for 1300
1450mv for 1400
Finally got my phone and this thing is wicked fast! I've never experienced a phone out of the box this good! Screen is yellowish as usual though Speakerphone volume is excellent as well!
Browser seems to be very good, not super fluid but good enough. Not as stuttery as my old SGS. Mighty tempted not to flash a custom rom because it's already very good!
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Use SUPERAOSP rom and use the browser, you will NEVER EVER COMPLAINT again

Thanks for the help guys really really big help I really really appreciate it!
The browser on superaosp is much smoother but I encountered some instances wherein it just would not scroll the page even after swiping the screen multiple times. Perhaps it's the way I swiped the screen? switching to my left hand which was holding the phone made it much better.
BLN and vibrate on answer working perfectly!

kingofthebraves said:
Thanks for the help guys really really big help I really really appreciate it!
The browser on superaosp is much smoother but I encountered some instances wherein it just would not scroll the page even after swiping the screen multiple times. Perhaps it's the way I swiped the screen? switching to my left hand which was holding the phone made it much better.
BLN and vibrate on answer working perfectly!
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Great that you like your Nexus S very much
We're all waiting for Nexus 3 to come out,
which is most likely to be LG Optimus XXXX
And, welcome to Nexus S

i prefer to go to Nexus S because it's the google son and you will see a great support

kingofthebraves said:
Should I trade in my Desire Z for the Nexus S?
I'm mostly after browser speed and everyday performance
What happened to the nexus sense port? I had a galaxy S before and it was always slower to the original desire but with ginger on the NS it just might do the trick.
Are you guys satisfied with the NS especially coming from other android devices?
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Im using Nexus S (from Globe) and I'm happy with it. I installed 2.3.4 the first day I got it.
The stock browser ain't bad actually, but I use Dolphin HD browser.

mbolinao said:
Im using Nexus S (from Globe) and I'm happy with it. I installed 2.3.4 the first day I got it.
The stock browser ain't bad actually, but I use Dolphin HD browser.
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Im pretty satisfied with this phone at the moment, with my headphones on this thing can produce way better audio than any HTC phone I have tried. Bass is booming and vocals are rich.
My only quip is the battery which never reaches 100 percent like my old SGS. A calibration should do the trick..I hope.

[Q] Why is the Sensation so sloppy and sluggish?

In all seriousness, does anyone really know the reason? It seems to make a mess of the hardware. Bad software maybe? What are peoples thoughts on this. Also if you state that it is "smooth" please post your previous phone, because if you came from a G1, then yes this is smooth to you. I just thought this thing would be flying around like crazy but its simply not.

The software isn't optimized for the hardware. This phone should be a screamer and extremely fluid given the CPU inside of it.

One word, followed by a number, a decimal, and another number.
Sense 3.0

he said it...
Matt1408 said:
One word, followed by a number, a decimal, and another number.
Sense 3.0
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+1
Posted with nook color running cm7 and dals OC kernel.

i dont know what you guys are talking about, i havent had ANY lag with sense 3.0, the only lag i experience is with certain apps, but again, as aNYthing24 said, and ive posted numerous times, 2.3.3 is NOT optimized for our hardware, and until we get 2.3.4 or ICS, this fone will ALWAYS "seem" slower than a SGS2 or an "older" htc device that is s-off rooted running cm7 :/ (my HD2 appeared to run "faster" at certain task than my S4G, but its purely because of the hardware/software restrictions)
this "lag" you are experienceing is either due to the 3d rosie transition effects that you arent used to, or there are too many apps chewing up the ram

Few options...
Uncheck the "tell htc" thing
Uncheck the "check for software update" thing
Disable syncing for those apps whom you dont use. Like i dont use stocks and news so i have their syncing disabled.
I hope it will work for you.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App

another really good way to speed it up is to disable animations.

Solidus_n313 said:
another really good way to speed it up is to disable animations.
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Except you can't disable HTC animations.

The phone is OK. Sometimes scrolling through menus it stutters. I have a lot of bloatware also disabled through titanium backup, along with sense UI stuff like Widgets; I use launcher pro. It has gotten a lot faster from that. It is so slow because of the rom on here. Couple this phone with cm7 and it would probably be quite fast. Its not the fastest phone in the world though.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

less Ram, no optimization, Sense too heavy. all of that is on HTC.

Mine is not sluggish or sloppy at all...

The home screen and app menu scrolling could really use some hardware acceleration help
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

I also am having the same issues underlined in some of these replies.
I installed launcher pro, and it seemed to run much faster, except for some annoying jitter when I activate the launcher or scroll through apps. I suspect this will be addressed in an update, as my G1 was running CM6 with launcher pro, and it wasn't lagging at all.
Back to Sense 3.0. Yes, it does lag, even if ever so slightly, and yes, this is HTC's fault. Sense 3.0, although it adds a lot of eye candy, just doesn't handle the memory and processor efficiently.
On a phone with 768 MB of RAM and a dual core processor, how is it that Sense 3.0 seems to eat up almost all of the RAM and leave you with about 100 MB, according to the Task manager? This is some serious bloat.
I can't wait for some stable CM7 build to come out. HTC Sense 3.0 is nice, but I'm not sacrificing speed and efficiency for eye candy.

StructuralHazard said:
I also am having the same issues underlined in some of these replies.
I installed launcher pro, and it seemed to run much faster, except for some annoying jitter when I activate the launcher or scroll through apps. I suspect this will be addressed in an update, as my G1 was running CM6 with launcher pro, and it wasn't lagging at all.
Back to Sense 3.0. Yes, it does lag, even if ever so slightly, and yes, this is HTC's fault. Sense 3.0, although it adds a lot of eye candy, just doesn't handle the memory and processor efficiently.
On a phone with 768 MB of RAM and a dual core processor, how is it that Sense 3.0 seems to eat up almost all of the RAM and leave you with about 100 MB, according to the Task manager? This is some serious bloat.
I can't wait for some stable CM7 build to come out. HTC Sense 3.0 is nice, but I'm not sacrificing speed and efficiency for eye candy.
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Remember, there is only 568mb of ram available since 200 is reserved for the gpu. But yeah, it seems sense is extra bloated, because accounting for all the apps that it says is running, plus my current free ram of 72mb, sense plus the os seems to use up around 350-400 mb
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

aniketsharma9865 said:
Few options...
Uncheck the "tell htc" thing
Uncheck the "check for software update" thing
Disable syncing for those apps whom you dont use. Like i dont use stocks and news so i have their syncing disabled.
I hope it will work for you.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
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No, this is just giving you the placebo affect. Our Sense UI is a bit laggy although it's not unbearable but sitting next to my thunderbolt it's clear that there's more lag here then there needs to be. I'm certain it can be fixed with a larger software update. Until then i don't think there's any box we can check or uncheck to correct the real problem.

mrg02d said:
Mine is not sluggish or sloppy at all...
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It is still a fast phone, but in comparison to others that are out there it's obvious that this the animations on the home screen and menu's could use some tweaking.

I think the touch screen issues may be part of what makes this thing feel slow. Coming from an overclocked N1, then an OC'd 1228mhz EVO 4G w/cm7, I noticed how good this thing felt the first 2 days.. Then a factory reset, ruu, nothin gets it back. A randomly unresponsive touchscreen feels a lot like a sluugish/slow phone.

lets just sum this thread up right here, Once rooted you'll see the things that the development team for HTC failed to do. This phone is great..but it doesnt matter how great the hardware is.. if the software is underachieved.

mrg02d said:
Mine is not sluggish or sloppy at all...
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What phone did you have b4 the sensation?

Before root, I had a Vibrant running touchwiz. You really wanna talk about lag. This phone flies compared to touchwiz. And if you look at touchwiz 4.0 on the gs2, its a new version with the same screen to screen lag. I really don't notice any hang ups on my phone with all animations, 3D effect, and weather lockscreen. I'm still waiting to get that weird fast swipe touchscreen issue that other people had/have.
Build date is 5/26 with a Sharp screen

loving my optimus 3d

hi all.
great phone had mine since 7july,luckily not had any problems like, heat or battery etc..
everyone seen does get impressed.
just to let know when i play in built video clips on 3d tv it only play audio not video, some sort of copyright.
"unauthorised video output" message comes up.
plays the games and ur own recordings on the big screen ok though.
have fun

Well I'm glad you don't have the problems with battery and heat but unfortunately I got the mentioned issue and much more such as random boot ups crash of the android system eg but never the less I still love the phone and always a show stealer with this phone.great to watch 3d content. I get sometimes frustrated with the fon. We need a lot of optimisation for this fon
Sent from my LG-P920 using XDA App

Paran0idAndr0id said:
Well I'm glad you don't have the problems with battery and heat
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I got these too.

To be quite honest i've had the phone since july 5th, stock froyo i dont use that crap of performance pack.
And untill now no issues, fast as hell, around 35 app running with no lags, today i ran a test i opened 20 of my downloaded apps while i was listening music with Winamp, Browsing with the native browser, and downloading 2 songs one with the browser and the other with the Mediafire app, and opened a 3D game and the phone managed to open the game and execute it smoothly; got a little warm but not like the reports that i've been reading here of extremely high temps.
Having said that i cannot wait untill Gingerbread with full support for dualcores is out.
Overall is a superb phone, feels like a brick in your hand, very fast, excellent design, bright and responsive screen.
Im very pleased with this handset.
Sent from my LG-P920 using XDA App

I'm not sure about this "full support for dual-cores" business as being sat on top of Linux a lot of the OS should already be utilising dual core. In fact it MUST be, as things like UAE4Android runs games full speed yet on my N900 overclocked to 1Ghz it could not, so clearly its utilising both cores.
You will notice despite running Android 2.2.2 the O3D is running the same kernel version as 2.3.4 (which doesn't necessarily mean it is IDENTICAL to the kernel 2.3.4 uses, I do not know). So the O3D is likely already benefiting from all the SMP kernel enhancements from Gingerbread.
Of course it might be Dalvik that required rewriting for dual-core, in which case some apps will certainly see a boost in performance. I have no idea how to tell what apps are using native code vs Java code.
This discussion also makes me wonder what on earth is going on: http://groups.google.com/group/android-platform/browse_thread/thread/b754408b9af17e55?pli=1

The phone is fast enough as it is I just want it to have slightly better battery as its poor, so hoping the move to 2.3 will help out as its got better power management.

So you think those problems are rooted in the performance pack? If so I should get rid of it as I have quite few random boot ups
Sent from my LG-P920 using XDA App

[Q] Dlev Stability

I have S7 right now. If anyone has switched, or used both, if you could answer the following...
-Battery Life, how does it compare between the two?
-Smoothness, once again, how does it compare? I normally run 1.4Ghz OC, so I know that might help butter things up.
-Stability, any problems besides the no sound first call? It seems to be getting updated regularly, which is awesome.
That's all for now

Dlev is the best
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using XDA App

jmatt78 said:
Dlev is the best
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... Can you expand on that at all? The OP had three specific questions and you didn't answer any. You just stated your opinion and who knows if you've even tried Serendipity to compare the two.

I really liked S7 but it just decided one day that it was not gonna work. Everything started force closing. So I moved to CM7 but it was good. As for Dlev I didn't like the looks of it. So I was on it like maybe 1 hour or so didn't have issue with in that hour.
Sent from Optimus-Prime's Samsung Infuse

I've been on both and I like things about both.
S7 - Good battery life, great stability, great performance..
--It is outdated, sometimes has the battery drain bug.
Dlev - Excellent battery life, like the theme, great stability, is sometimes "choppy", is newer version the S7.
--The developer is active and fixing problems.
If S7 was 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 JVT/JVT it would definitely be my choice of ROM.
I would go for DLEV since it's 2.3.4 and doesn't have the battery drain bug, and has a lot of great features.

MIUI ftw...much better in my opinion. Battery life can be tweaked with setCPU settings so that pretty much fixes that...only issue is that 3d in rendered like 10000000000 times slower so games WILL lag A LOT. other than that...every other category you can think of is A+. Unbeatable in smoothness,theme management and eye candy. It is stable too I have not encountered any situations where it got unstable unless u overclock it to 1600 at 1600mV! That will kill it right away, but yeah...MIUI rocks. One more thing i dont like is that it like half the themes are chinese and there is no AOSP theme all of them have wierdo icons and stuff so that is pretty much really annoying.

Only problem for me is usb connectivity. Tried it without debugging on and all I got was a kies screen with no recognition from my pc (win7). With debugging on it just goes to a charge. I'm gonna play around with it some more, but everything else is super clean and smooth.

Mohammad_Adib said:
MIUI ftw...much better in my opinion. Battery life can be tweaked with setCPU settings so that pretty much fixes that...only issue is that 3d in rendered like 10000000000 times slower so games WILL lag A LOT. other than that...every other category you can think of is A+. Unbeatable in smoothness,theme management and eye candy. It is stable too I have not encountered any situations where it got unstable unless u overclock it to 1600 at 1600mV! That will kill it right away, but yeah...MIUI rocks. One more thing i dont like is that it like half the themes are chinese and there is no AOSP theme all of them have wierdo icons and stuff so that is pretty much really annoying.
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I don't want MIUI on account of the bluetooth issue, and I play games so there is that too. But thank you for the suggestion.
Anyone else on S7 vs. Dlev?

Mohammad_Adib said:
MIUI ftw...much better in my opinion. Battery life can be tweaked with setCPU settings so that pretty much fixes that...only issue is that 3d in rendered like 10000000000 times slower so games WILL lag A LOT. other than that...every other category you can think of is A+. Unbeatable in smoothness,theme management and eye candy. It is stable too I have not encountered any situations where it got unstable unless u overclock it to 1600 at 1600mV! That will kill it right away, but yeah...MIUI rocks. One more thing i dont like is that it like half the themes are chinese and there is no AOSP theme all of them have wierdo icons and stuff so that is pretty much really annoying.
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This guy ^^ really loves his MIUI lol but yes I've had both...Dlev, didn't like the theme of it and for some reason was choppy every other boot or so, and had data issues, got tired of it and flashed S7 and haven't changed since. Great battery, stability, speed, only negative is its still 2.3.3, not really a big deal for me.

EricNagel said:
I have S7 right now. If anyone has switched, or used both, if you could answer the following...
-Battery Life, how does it compare between the two?
-Smoothness, once again, how does it compare? I normally run 1.4Ghz OC, so I know that might help butter things up.
-Stability, any problems besides the no sound first call? It seems to be getting updated regularly, which is awesome.
That's all for now
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I came from S7 to Dlev about a week ago. I had HUGE battery drain problems with S7 that weren't being fixed with a reboot, or uninstalling apps. I've been extremely happy with Dlev, paired with the Daily Driver kernel the battery life is very good, and the kernel makes charging faster. I have had no stability problems with the new update, I had some problems with the first one and the Touch Wiz launcher (fixed with a re-install). The new version has Go Launcher EX installed, which is an excellent theme-able launcher with lots of eye candy tweaks. Smoothness even at stock speed with all animations is good, would be even better if overclocked.

Dlev is the best for me, which has been running great all the time. I have not tried CM7, but since Dlev is actually based off of the captivate (very like the Infuse if you did not know), which seems like it would work better with the Fuse. Ha Mohammad_Adib knows I like it so much this from Android Forums ha. I would probably be running Infused though, because I just like the feel of running a rom that is actually meant for the Infuse, but with no updates for now I just have nothing to look forward to on that rom, where Dlev may just be my fav now.

[Q] Why is my HOXL so laggy? (ViperXL 2.20)

Hey guys,
My HOXL is currently running ViperXL 2.20, the Beast Mode Kernel at 1.8ghz and -25mv undervolting, sweep2wake and sweep2unlock enabled, as well as aznrice's audio mods. (VooDoo Mode). I'm using the SIO scaler and the smartassv2 governor, occasionally intellidemand.
The thing dun lags. It's slow, unresponsive, choppy. It seems as though my free ram gets eaten up rather quickly, but I get general lag even when it's empty. I don't use any task killers either, I let android take care of that part.
I get wake lag, homescreen lag (Apex Launcher Pro), lag when launching apps, lag while scrolling through apps, just lag. My quadrant is great, in the upper 5000 range, but that doesn't reflect real world performance at all.
It seems as though the lag comes and goes. One minute it'll be fine and fairly responsive, and the next minute it won't. It's usually the latter though. I've tried clean flashing the rom, no success.
What could be wrong here? I played with the HOX+ at AT&T today and I loved it, but I'm reluctant to buy it because of the T3's horrendous DAC. I was even thinking of just going for a Galaxy Note II, and I hate Samsung.
Thanks in advance.

Buy a new phone when you mess yours up?..where have I read this before......?hmm..I do not get any lag whatsoever on viper. Have you even tried reflashing,changing back to stock,factory reset etc.. are you past your 30 Days...by the way new phones come out every month literally so their will always be one faster. You just seem like the person who switches phones because the phone you have you caused the problems...

WhatTheAndroid? said:
Buy a new phone when you mess yours up?..where have I read this before......?hmm..I do not get any lag whatsoever on viper. Have you even tried reflashing,changing back to stock,factory reset etc.. are you past your 30 Days...by the way new phones come out every month literally so their will always be one faster. You just seem like the person who switches phones because the phone you have you caused the problems...
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Not quite. The HOXL's measly 16gb of memory is killing me, otherwise I love the phone. I'm just in the position to sell the HOXL for double what I paid, get a new phone using someone else's line (because they don't want to upgrade...lol) and profit The only reason I'm not jumping into this decision is because I'd like to see what comes in the next few months. 64gb is awesome though. I got my HOXL on launch day, so I'm way past the 30 day window. I do realize that phones will just become faster, but I'm not too big on the lag I'm seeing here that often makes the phone unusable. It's pretty bad dude.
I've tried reflashing, factory reset numerous times, nothing. Initially, the phone will be snappy as usual, but over the course of a couple of days the lag just comes back. Then again, I was comparing ICS to the smoothness of JB on the HOX+. This lag I'm getting is just something I haven't seen happen before. What kernel are you using? Governor, etc? OC/UV?

Viper has been pretty zippy for me lately...avoid restore system apps...if you're reporting this after a couple hours of usage...wait a couple days and than report back

omario8484 said:
Viper has been pretty zippy for me lately...avoid restore system apps...if you're reporting this after a couple hours of usage...wait a couple days and than report back
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I only restore my user apps and data, never the system stuff. This is after a week or two of usage, I started using Viper when it was on 1.2.4 a little while ago. The incremental updates did speed it up a bit, but my phone seems to be "choking" to get things done.

Trust me you'll see another jaw dripping HTC released around April I say it even sooner so if you can wait with your one xl you'll have a very good phone.... The one x+ does seem very tempting though

omario8484 said:
Trust me you'll see another jaw dripping HTC released around April I say it even sooner so if you can wait with your one xl you'll have a very good phone.... The one x+ does seem very tempting though
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That's why I'm holding off a bit lol. I'm assuming that in the near future, Android will match up to/efficiently use the hardware being delivered, essentially becoming synergistic.

Using viper xl with the total opposite of your experience man, try to flash the elemental kernel. Im using it with noop.scheduler and intellidemand governor with UC to 1,3ghz and it has NEVER, for real,been lagged once
Sent from my HTC One XL

I would not buy anything new right now. Wait until we get a GSM version of the Droid DNA, which makes the One X+ look outdated already.

I was considering that, I really wish att had the DNA.
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda premium

Have you ever been satisfied with the responsiveness of the phone on a stock rom or was it always choppy as you feel it is now?

When it was bone dry stock, it was quick and responsive, felt like JB even. Not so much anymore though.
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda premium

i found at&t stock, debloating it myself with some minor mods to be faster then most of the sense roms i've tried

Hmm i had a bit of lag on viper xl 1.x series then i went cm10 to dirty rom had no speed issues on the aosp side just a bit more battery drain compared to the sense roms but my multitasking is more realistic on the aosp side imo. I would say try cleanrom always loved it for closer to bare bones experience.

Me too
I've experienced the exact same issue, although mine ran fine for the first week or so, and then started taking a ****. Stock stays fast, Viper after the first week or two regardless of kernel and cpu speed starts to lag. I've tried CM10 which speed wise is fine (buggy as all hell for me though, no offence CM dev's.. you need more time/source) and doesn't seem to slow down. So far I've flashed CleanRom and IMO it's night and day compared to Viper. Maybe try that?