[Q] How many ROM i can flash before damaging phone? - Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi team,
Since my joining XDA, i had flashed atleast 30-40 roms before being satisfied with a rom (i am currently using NightlyFourE V4.3.2 with default kernel, awsome performance with great battery backup).
Now that we are pretty close getting stable CM9 & MIUI ROMs for our devices, which i am pretty keen to use. My question is how many times i can flash new ROM on my device before starting to damage it, because everything has a limit and i am sure flashing ROM on the device would also have some limit.
I am using this device from last 10-11 months.
Experience users please help me.
Regards,
Pravin
Mobile:- LG P500
NightlyFourE V4.3.2 with default kernel (awsome battery backup)

Limit is 0.
When overclocking device (happens when using flashed rom), you over-use the processor. It is built for 600. If you want a good phone, use CNA, if you want warranty and LG ****tyness, restore to old.
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mDroidd said:
Limit is 0.
When overclocking device (happens when using flashed rom), you over-use the processor. It is built for 600. If you want a good phone, use CNA, if you want warranty and LG ****tyness, restore to old.
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Your reply didnt help me to get ay answer. I didnt asked about overclock neither i worry about its default speed. If i wanted "warranty and LG ****tyness" i wouldnt have used the custom rom. Instead of trolling pl answer streight if you can. If limit was 0, no one could have flashed any ROM on their mobile.
As we know we install ROM on mobiles internal Flash Memory. How many ROM installation it will take before we start damaging "that" Flash Memory.
I hope you got my question.

Usually NAND flash chips have a 500-1000 cycle lifespan (and that is a very conservative number).
I wouldn't worry and I work with flash equipped devices.

@ Ipse_Tase :-ur reply makes sense, thanks man

Memory wear
Another limitation is that flash memory has a finite number of program-erase cycles (typically written as P/E cycles). Most commercially available flash products are guaranteed to withstand around 100,000 P/E cycles, before the wear begins to deteriorate the integrity of the storage.[10] Micron Technology and Sun Microsystems announced an SLC NAND flash memory chip rated for 1,000,000 P/E cycles on December 17, 2008.[11]
The guaranteed cycle count may apply only to block zero (as is the case with TSOP NAND devices), or to all blocks (as in NOR). This effect is partially offset in some chip firmware or file system drivers by counting the writes and dynamically remapping blocks in order to spread write operations between sectors; this technique is called wear leveling. Another approach is to perform write verification and remapping to spare sectors in case of write failure, a technique called Bad Block Management (BBM). For portable consumer devices, these wearout management techniques typically extend the life of the flash memory beyond the life of the device itself, and some data loss may be acceptable in these applications. For high reliability data storage, however, it is not advisable to use flash memory that would have to go through a large number of programming cycles. This limitation is meaningless for 'read-only' applications such as thin clients and routers, which are only programmed once or at most a few times during their lifetimes.
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For USB Flash drives, Toshiba calculated that a 10,000 write cycle endurance would enable
customers to “completely write and erase the entire contents once per day for 27 years,
well beyond the life of the hardware.”
About data retention here is Kingston's claim: Kingston Flash storage devices are rated for up to 10 years under normal use.

myawan said:
For USB Flash drives, Toshiba calculated that a 10,000 write cycle endurance would enable
customers to “completely write and erase the entire contents once per day for 27 years,
well beyond the life of the hardware.”
About data retention here is Kingston's claim: Kingston Flash storage devices are rated for up to 10 years under normal use.
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Thanks brother, now i can flash all ROM withour any fear of damaging the mobile.

myawan said:
For USB Flash drives, Toshiba calculated that a 10,000 write cycle endurance would enable
customers to “completely write and erase the entire contents once per day for 27 years,
well beyond the life of the hardware.”
About data retention here is Kingston's claim: Kingston Flash storage devices are rated for up to 10 years under normal use.
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What's the source for this? Just curious because I'd like to read it in it's entirety.
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There is a limit to how many times I can flash a Rom?
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azyouthinkeyeiz said:
What's the source for this? Just curious because I'd like to read it in it's entirety.
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Yeah its interesting to read:

Better Check it out yourself n REPORT 2 US

You will have a new phone by the time your phone starts to wear out..that's how I look at it
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azyouthinkeyeiz said:
What's the source for this? Just curious because I'd like to read it in it's entirety.
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The 27 year quote is from a press release
www dot toshiba dot com/taec/news/press_releases/2004/file_04_211.jsp
(Sorry not able to post urls yet)

allisterw said:
The 27 year quote is from a press release
www dot toshiba dot com/taec/news/press_releases/2004/file_04_211.jsp
(Sorry not able to post urls yet)
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27 years for a phone.
Our grandchildren will look at our phone as a brick

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memory lawsuit

I think we need to rally as a community against samsung and att for lying about the memory in the captivate.
Sounds like a waste of money. They never said 512MB FREE FOR YOU TO TOTALLY USE!
Or else every Android phone and their companies should get sued.
A lot of your memory is being used by the OS, system cache and more. Have you ever really ran out of memory? I haven't.
Android is basically designed to never run out of memory; as it stores all programs in memory to load faster - it also ends "not in use" programs as soon as more RAM is needed for a new application.
When I buy something and it says it has "such and such" RAM, I never expect to be able to actually use it all. I sure wish OS's and hardware didn't need RAM to run.... and besides, 300 Megs free for personal use is more than enough for a hand held device to run. Even if I loaded my entire list of apps into the ram I would still have room.
Surely the first post was "tongue in cheek"
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You will never have 300 megs for "personal use." A fresh kill of all apps gives me 123MBs free. I run out of memory all the time. Just today I was using the youtube app and browser and it totally locked up until I manually closed some programs.
Being that pc manufacturers have been doing this for years with on board video (and they even double do by starting the ram and the vram), you would never have a chance.
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Did Samsung/ATT ever say that you would have 512MB of memory available to the user? If they did then I think you might have a case. But considering that Samsung went as far as creating videos explaining why the GT-I9000 doesn't show the whole 512MB (http://bit.ly/djxJ3r - guessing similar videos exist for the US variants), I don't think you'd stand a chance. Unless some sales rep. lied his/her way into a commission.
If you want something to go after them for, go after them for unreliable and often non-functional GPS that was not advertised as a crippled feature.
Even then, I would recommend waiting for the official Froyo release to give them enough chance to get a formal effort out there. I tend to think the OTA update that went out was more to turn off features AT&T doesn't want us to have for free (tethering) than it was a GPS fix. I hold the opinion that the GPS part was more of their work in progress that they tossed in there to get folks to want to give up their free tethering.
cclem700 said:
Surely the first post was "tongue in cheek"
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With the way people complain and want to sue over everything nowadays it's really hard to tell. Sarcasm truly is lost when typed.
lol its just advertising, while it mte not be entirely true, they are still covered..
Nowhere in the OS (Eclair OR Froyo) does it ever break down memory that totals the 512MB mentioned on the packaging. In all versions I've used the total amount of memory available has been in the 300MB range. I understand on an intellectual level that the OS and other vital functions need to reside in some memory so it may not ever be "free," but I'd like to be assured by the software that that memory IS in fact being allocated and is not just a fictional number made up by Samsung advertising. for all I know the Captivate COULD only have the 300-ish MB that it claims and the OS uses up a portion of that. Also, there has got to be something fishy going on, because before 2.2, Android could NOT utilize 512MB of RAM, and from my understanding, would not even be able to display it had more then that. If this is true, then why is Froyo showing that it's using the same amount of the 300MB free that Eclair used? wouldn't it have SOME amount more free than the eclair version?
Either there is a bug with the memory (display or usage), or the Captivate does not have the memory it was advertised to have.
ThisWasATriumph said:
You will never have 300 megs for "personal use." A fresh kill of all apps gives me 123MBs free. I run out of memory all the time. Just today I was using the youtube app and browser and it totally locked up until I manually closed some programs.
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Perhaps my first estimate was incorrect, but I just did a task kill and got 200 of my 305 available free, so I will correct myself and say 200 for "personal use" which I still think is more than enough. I have never had the browser crash except when trying to play flash games and I have never run out of memory, even when pausing playing a 720p video to check a flash heavy website, load up a few hundreds texts, and browse the gallery to show people pictures. I think android manages the memory quite well.
Other phones like the nexus 1 have the full 512mb available as advertised & have had it available on both 2.1 & 2.2 why is this different for us galaxy s users? Does it even say anywhere official that it is supposed to have 512mb it doesn't say that anywhere on the box or in anywhere in the included text or on att's website or samsungs. It doesn't say it doesn't either. I know this sounds disappointing but lets face the facts this phone isn't all that it was hyped up to be. Not to mention that it also claims it has gps but I have tried everything & have still never been able to lock on to a satellite for more than a couple of seconds.
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Yeah! And after that we can go after the base 1000 HDD scam too!
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metalmansam said:
Other phones like the nexus 1 have the full 512mb available as advertised & have had it available on both 2.1 & 2.2 why is this different for us galaxy s users? Does it even say anywhere official that it is supposed to have 512mb it doesn't say that anywhere on the box or in anywhere in the included text or on att's website or samsungs. It doesn't say it doesn't either. I know this sounds disappointing but lets face the facts this phone isn't all that it was hyped up to be. Not to mention that it also claims it has gps but I have tried everything & have still never been able to lock on to a satellite for more than a couple of seconds.
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http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-I897ZKAATT-features
scroll down halfway, on the right side of the screen:
16GB ROM/512MB RAM
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tjsooley said:
I think we need to rally as a community against samsung and att for lying about the memory in the captivate.
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Where is the lie? My phone is spec'd at having 512mb of RAM and 16GB flash memory. I have that.
Does your phone have something different?
If it does, you should return it and ask for a replacement or get a refund. What would a lawsuit accomplish? Were you harmed? Did the phone catch fire in your pocket due to this defect?
I bet Jackie Childs would take this case.
alphadog00 said:
Where is the lie? My phone is spec'd at having 512mb of RAM and 16GB flash memory. I have that.
Does your phone have something different?
If it does, you should return it and ask for a replacement or get a refund. What would a lawsuit accomplish? Were you harmed? Did the phone catch fire in your pocket due to this defect?
I bet Jackie Childs would take this case.
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Where in the OS does it tell you that you have 512MB of RAM?
I don't post unless absolutely necessary, but this thread has irritated me beyond the point.
How about, instead of whining about a memory problem when all that has been used on this phone so far is Eclair (no himem) and a LEAKED super-beta may-not-even-be-close-to-release Froyo, you either:
A) Stop trying to get a rise out of a community. Honestly, if we had as many hands on deck as we do cattle around here, the Captivate would be ::the:: phone to have, with many ROMs, mods, apps, etc.
B) Return your Captivate and never come back here again. No one misses whiners.
C) Actually understand that the reason why you dont see that much RAM is because the physical chip is 512MB RAM. Its not for you to use, and you could consider yourself lucky that a phone with as high of specs it has, just might have to use more RAM! I suggest you read RyanZA's thread on RFS and to explain to yourself how FSYNC and its security checks work with RAM.
D) I'm done. If you want to flame me about it, go ahead. But I'm sick and tired of people purchasing a phone then whining about it and threatening the lawyers when SOME people are perfectly content with this phone just how it is. Honestly. Go get an iPhone4 or wait for a Samsung Tab, or go get a Dell Streak and put Eclair on it. Just STOP whining.
No wonder the devs don't want to do work for this smartphone.
Good god..
asrrin29 said:
Where in the OS does it tell you that you have 512MB of RAM?
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It doesn't say it in the OS - but that doesn't mean it isn't there.
I guess the teardown sites could be fooled, and Samsung could be lying to everyone.
The most logical explanation to me, is that the 512MB is there - I don't think we have a 300ish MB chip.

[Q] Dissapointed with Nexus S ,are u?

hi all
after waiting of six month when arrived to Iraq ,and i bought Nexus S I9023 with 500 $ , after 4 days iam very disappointed because:
1.rooting and recovery very difficult .
2.there is no Radio
3.there is no Zoom in camera.
4.will damage and not work with two different ROM ,this problem i didnt get it with my old DEsire.
5.Internal Storage , so there is no SDcard thats a bit problem.
there is solution to these problem?
now planning to get HTC Desire HD .
are also diissapointed?
thanks.
1. No it's not, it's easy
2. Can't do a lot about that, a dev might figure it out though
3. Digital zoom is turd and shouldn't exist anyway
4. Pardon?
5. Yes that was a poor decision
cutiyar said:
hi all
after waiting of six month when arrived to Iraq ,and i bought Nexus S I9023 with 500 $ , after 4 days iam very disappointed because:
1.rooting and recovery very difficult .
2.there is no Radio
3.there is no Zoom in camera.
4.will damage and not work with two different ROM ,this problem i didnt get it with my old DEsire.
5.Internal Storage , so there is no SDcard thats a bit problem.
there is solution to these problem?
now planning to get HTC Desire HD .
are also diissapointed?
thanks.
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i'm very satisfied
but i am very sad about arabic language
My friend has a Desire HD and he is lucky if his battery lasts the whole day with wifi, gps and sync turned off. With my nexus s I can easily make it through two days with light use.
The rooting/custom recovery/custom rom process should be the easiest among all android devices since it is a pure google phone meant for developers.
oh man its a devphone why a dev want fm and rooting is easy as pie! fastboot oem unlock & fastboot flash recovery Name.img
what is the difficult?
zoom on camera is silly, you can make a photo and "zoom" in gallery.. same quality as digital zoom
maybe you flashed the roms false? not the devs fault ;D
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cutiyar said:
1.rooting and recovery very difficult .
2.there is no Radio
3.there is no Zoom in camera.
4.will damage and not work with two different ROM ,this problem i didnt get it with my old DEsire.
5.Internal Storage , so there is no SDcard thats a bit problem.
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Err, no. The thing's wide open, you don't even need any exploit code. Care to share your difficulties?
True, but you knew that beforehand (and who knows, maybe the FM radio that's inside it can be brought to life).
Where would you put a zoom lens? Not enough space. "Zooming" in software just lowers the image quality. You can do the same in post-processing by cropping to an area and enlarging that.
Sorry, I didn't quite understand that sentence.
As a matter of fact I agree with you but again, you knew that before you bought it.
1. You rooted a Desire (and s-offed maybe?) and you're saying that nexus s is hard to root? Jesus Christ people what's wrong with you?
2. Who listens to FM radio nowadays? We're in 2011, move on.
3. Why? To reduce quality? Kick ass feature indeed, you can zoom in gallery anyway.
4. Not our problem you can't read ROM descriptions. Besides, the two phone models were already splitted in to 2 different forums.
5. I'm still trying to figure it out why people need more then ~10gb of storage on a phone. Even with 1000 mp3s and a few movies, plus sd card files for certain HD games, you'd still have enough with the 16gb memory.
Instead of crying because of these non sense "dissapointments", you should wine about the laggy browser or about the fact that we only actually have 300mb RAM (since 200 are used for the GPU).
lvnatic said:
2. Who listens to FM radio nowadays?
5. I'm still trying to figure it out why people need more then ~10gb of storage
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2. I do, because streaming local radio stations over the internet is generally wasteful (all that tech, just to listen to radio), doesn't work right (mobile internet just isn't reliable enough), is expensive (my data allowance is large but streaming radio will eat it like that) and drains the battery.
5. I don't need more storage but I'd like to be able to physically remove most of my personal data from the phone, to back it up or even just stick it in the next model. Even if I drop my phone and it's toast a microSD card could probably be salvaged. Built-in storage also takes away choice: How much storage do I need? How fast does it need to be? And lastly, cards can be re-used in a lot of different devices, which I prefer over buying new storage for every one.
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2. I do, because streaming local radio stations over the internet is generally wasteful (all that tech, just to listen to radio), doesn't work right (mobile internet just isn't reliable enough), is expensive (my data allowance is large but streaming radio will eat it like that) and drains the battery.
5. I don't need more storage but I'd like to be able to physically remove most of my personal data from the phone, to back it up or even just stick it in the next model. Even if I drop my phone and it's toast a microSD card could probably be salvaged. Built-in storage also takes away choice: How much storage do I need? How fast does it need to be? And lastly, cards can be re-used in a lot of different devices, which I prefer over buying new storage for every one.
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while you might have a point for the radio thing, i kind of disagree with the storage thing. the purpose of storage is not to store your important data. you should in fact never do that. What if you lose your phone or it gets stolen?
I think this is the tech era evolving and that you have choices like google docs, dropbox, picasa.... for storage which is easily accesible (even through your computer at home) and safer.
only complaints i have are battery life(decent), icon looks garbage (thank god for customizable icons but still a hassle...wish the market made a standard for a xxx amount of pixel/size for icons or something. more continuity with the icons) and RAM....the ram is just not enough. /sigh
not really disappointed as i give this phone a 8.5/10 and i was a previous iphone 4 user.
cutiyar said:
hi all
after waiting of six month when arrived to Iraq ,and i bought Nexus S I9023 with 500 $ , after 4 days iam very disappointed because:
1.rooting and recovery very difficult .
2.there is no Radio
3.there is no Zoom in camera.
4.will damage and not work with two different ROM ,this problem i didnt get it with my old DEsire.
5.Internal Storage , so there is no SDcard thats a bit problem.
there is solution to these problem?
now planning to get HTC Desire HD .
are also diissapointed?
thanks.
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1. Rooting & Recovery is not difficult at all. It's one of the most simpliest. One-clicks do not count. This phone is one of the few phones that permit unlocking the bootloader. Other phones' (with the exception of the N1) unlock their bootloader by using Android exploits.
2. There is a radio. Every phone has a radio including a flip phone.
3. All zooms in phones are not real "zooms." Real zooms consist of physical zoom.
4. ROMs doesn't damage your phone. It's because of something you did wrong.
5. If SDCard was such a problem, why did you get the phone in the first place? You should of done your research before buying the phone.
The only thing I'm disappointed with is the fact that they go ahead and release a 4G model a couple months later.
fallenguru said:
2. I do, because streaming local radio stations over the internet is generally wasteful (all that tech, just to listen to radio), doesn't work right (mobile internet just isn't reliable enough), is expensive (my data allowance is large but streaming radio will eat it like that) and drains the battery.
5. I don't need more storage but I'd like to be able to physically remove most of my personal data from the phone, to back it up or even just stick it in the next model. Even if I drop my phone and it's toast a microSD card could probably be salvaged. Built-in storage also takes away choice: How much storage do I need? How fast does it need to be? And lastly, cards can be re-used in a lot of different devices, which I prefer over buying new storage for every one.
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Data allowance?? That must be a T-Mobile thiing...because on Sprint the data is unlimited.
Quis89 said:
Data allowance?? That must be a T-Mobile thiing...because on Sprint the data is unlimited.
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LoL he's in Austria dude
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You should have gotten Galaxy S instead.
FM Radio, expandable SD card slot but no camera flash.
cutiyar said:
hi all
after waiting of six month when arrived to Iraq ,and i bought Nexus S I9023 with 500 $ , after 4 days iam very disappointed because:
1.rooting and recovery very difficult .
2.there is no Radio
3.there is no Zoom in camera.
4.will damage and not work with two different ROM ,this problem i didnt get it with my old DEsire.
5.Internal Storage , so there is no SDcard thats a bit problem.
there is solution to these problem?
now planning to get HTC Desire HD .
are also diissapointed?
thanks.
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Im not disappointed generally
the only thing i dont like is the lack of Sim Toolkit coz i cant access my SImcard's menu like banking and all, plus Google removed FB sync for Nexus S. and the compass screws up a lot too, which is impt for me when using maps coz I drive a lot.
but i can live without the sim toolkit and the fb sync... its the compass that bothers me.
lordnikon11 said:
You should have gotten Galaxy S instead.
FM Radio, expandable SD card slot but no camera flash.
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maybe you mean Galaxy S 2 its really a piece of art from inside and outside
asim1401 said:
maybe you mean Galaxy S 2 its really a piece of art from inside and outside
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No I meant Galaxy S.
The S2 is a different league.
deeren said:
while you might have a point for the radio thing, i kind of disagree with the storage thing. the purpose of storage is not to store your important data. [...] I think this is the tech era evolving and that you have choices like google docs, dropbox, picasa.... for storage which is easily accesible [...] and safer.
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Important, hm, not that important mostly, just a hassle to re-create. And I do use it to transport data between home and work ... let's settle for sometimes important data . If I had important data on there I'd certainly not upload it into some cloud. Also sometimes it isn't practical. Store my music and videos in the cloud, whoever thought of that. So it can skip and eat up bandwidth?
melloyellowkc said:
only complaints i have are battery life
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Really, mine's excellent, as long as Latitude is off. What does it say is using it?
zephiK said:
2. There is a radio. Every phone has a radio including a flip phone.
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You realize what (s)he meant, right?
Quis89 said:
Data allowance?? That must be a T-Mobile thiing...because on Sprint the data is unlimited.
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This is a forum with a very international user base, which is great. I've seen flags here that I didn't know existed. Why do so many Americans still assume every one else is from there, too?
Anyway, I'm in Austria and pay €4 / GB. Even if it wasn't limited it still shouldn't be wasted. Wireless bandwidth is scarce no matter what you do.
thanks for all our posts.
i Cant answer all posts but :
1. there is no radio but mr.zephiK said there is , u can tell where to get it?
2. r u in same ?? u say yes there is zoom in but u have to zoom it from gallery , so all phones should remove zoom button , this company pay alot of money to have good lens for zoom in .
3. Mr. Rusty doesnt need pardon i tried modaco and cyaogen mod ROM but they will damage some times.
thanks .

Why does htc's website show diffrent info about out phone?

check this out:
http://www.htc.com/us/support/sensation4g-tmobile/tech-specs/
any one know if they have the full 4 gig already on our phone but its hidden??
we already know the the sensation special edition has the same speed processor but does it already have the same memory but we just cant see it?
out of the box i had 1.04 avail internally. any one have something different?
I think sense takes 3 gigs or something like that.
I hear the operating system and other data take up space. But maybe that's not true. WHY IS MY WINDOWS INSTALLATION FOLDER 15 GB BIG? IT SHOULD TAKE NO SPACE AT ALL, RIGHT?
Yepp that's our phone we got 4GB but only 1 available for user application that's what I've read...hopefully CM7 will take care of that too
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d.brown said:
Yepp that's our phone we got 4GB but only 1 available for user application that's what I've read...hopefully CM7 will take care of that too
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nowai
mrbkkt1 said:
I think sense takes 3 gigs or something like that.
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Common sense, you have it.
Welcome to the world of misleading advertising.
Please, enjoy your stay*.
*I in no way gurantee you anyplace where you no longer have to be non-stationary for any extended period of time. Also, time based on base 10 units of time for all the time measurements. Results may very, advertisement uses paid actors.
(I wish the xda application could use php board code)
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Well thanks for the answers, i my self cant wait for cm7 to come to us. I came from the hd2, only because the digitizer stopped working as usual on android installations, and it was the same price to replace the phone under insurance as it was to upgrade this phone...
I read its eMMC protected so we won't be able to access the rest of the 3 GB. It's reserved for system files and other crap.

How to Increase RAM memory ? :/

I heard that RAM memory can be increase through SWAP
But I don't know how to...
Can anyone please explain it ?
my phone is rooted and unlocked BootLoader...
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Just read here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1659231
Just so you know swap partitions are very slow and can have a significant impact on the life of your SD card or internal memory, depending on where you put the partition. I know more RAM sounds like a good idea, but make sure to read the whole guide so you can a better feel for the cons of this procedure. Your phone might not even be noticeably faster afterwards.
You can put more RAM inside of your phone if you are so inclined. Just buy some RAM off NewEgg or your retailer of choice (DDR4 is really fast!). Once you get the RAM pop the back off your phone. Inside you will see a large black box with the word Liion written on it. Do not worry, this is not actual lion, nor is it a lion egg. Just take that out. Using scissors or another sharp implement, cut the RAM down to the size of that black box. Simply put that RAM inside of your phone and you are done! Some people like to solder it in place, but that is mostly just to cut down on rattle noise. Note, that soldering your phone is actually quite dangerous. I chose to solder mine, and my phone no longer boot after. But, it was still pretty cool to have 4GB of RAM in my phone.
R u joking??
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Essaker said:
R u joking??
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I was being serious with my advice in the first paragraph. However, until they invent wireless RAM you can safely ignore the second paragraph.
huh ! :banghead:
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Buy a new phone...
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Xperia Z is good for gaming....
Okee I'll buy it..
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Essaker said:
huh ! :banghead:
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Just ignore what I said before, I was kidding around a bit so I am sure it got confusing.
Simply put, adding a swap partition to your phone is probably not going to speed it up. Some users commenting on that guide with complaints that their phone is slower after enabling swap. This is not surprising. SDcards are many times slower than RAM. Thus anytime your phone actually uses the swap partition it can get incredibly sluggish. If you want to try out a swap partition, awesome! Just go follow the guide. It can be a fun learning experience. But, do not get your hopes up. Like zerofighter1 said, a new phone is probably necessary if you want to enjoy the effects of more RAM.
Jedakiah said:
Just ignore what I said before, I was kidding around a bit so I am sure it got confusing.
Simply put, adding a swap partition to your phone is probably not going to speed it up. Some users commenting on that guide with complaints that their phone is slower after enabling swap. This is not surprising. SDcards are many times slower than RAM. Thus anytime your phone actually uses the swap partition it can get incredibly sluggish. If you want to try out a swap partition, awesome! Just go follow the guide. It can be a fun learning experience. But, do not get your hopes up. Like zerofighter1 said, a new phone is probably necessary if you want to enjoy the effects of more RAM.
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RAM is usually only an issue with older phones, but more often than not its not the only issue. I remember I experimented with swap back in my Fascinate (VZW Galaxy S variant) days, and that was because the VZW variant shipped with 384MB of RAM as opposed to 512MB on every other GS1 variant.
Several phones later, hours of reading, and enormous amounts more experimenting with Android not only on my phone, but rooting/flashing friends' phones too, I can tell you that if you're considering swap, you should really buy a new phone. Maybe that's not an option for you based on budget restrictions, however if that's the case I would recommend that spending time on XDA posting about hugely outdated software mods could be better spent working/advancing your career, but I digress.
More objectively, you're going to get better performance out of A) flashing newer versions of android which handle RAM swapping better and B) mild overclocking. Moderate to severe overclocking could gain you better performance yields but not for what you will sacrifice in battery life respectively. Hope this helps.
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Jedakiah said:
Just ignore what I said before, I was kidding around a bit so I am sure it got confusing.
Simply put, adding a swap partition to your phone is probably not going to speed it up. Some users commenting on that guide with complaints that their phone is slower after enabling swap. This is not surprising. SDcards are many times slower than RAM. Thus anytime your phone actually uses the swap partition it can get incredibly sluggish. If you want to try out a swap partition, awesome! Just go follow the guide. It can be a fun learning experience. But, do not get your hopes up. Like zerofighter1 said, a new phone is probably necessary if you want to enjoy the effects of more RAM.
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Also remember that this is a mobile computer, but a computer none the less. Regular reboots can make worlds of difference. I reboot every 2-3 days at least.
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New ROM for the PROM - Frequent flasing, Impact on memory!

Hello!
I Would like to try various ROMs, but cant make my mind up!
Quite hesitated as concerned about the impact it might have on reducing memory (RAM) lifespan.
Samsung T580 (2016 version). I think 16GB, supposed to be 32, but appears 'they' lied!
I'm probably going to keep it for a long time as too expensive for me, so not a matter of changing a couple of years down the road. (probably not) .
Thanks in advance.
David.
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So there doesn't seem to be many roms for your device
But I would recommend
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-a/development/rom-20190123-t3892802
As I used it for a year and had no problems with it
and also it has incredible customizability
DavyDoo said:
Hello!
I Would like to try various ROMs, but cant make my mind up!
Quite hesitated as concerned about the impact it might have on reducing memory (RAM) lifespan.
Samsung T580 (2016 version). I think 16GB, supposed to be 32, but appears 'they' lied!
I'm probably going to keep it for a long time as too expensive for me, so not a matter of changing a couple of years down the road. (probably not) .
Thanks in advance.
David.
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It is true that solid state storage deteriorates over time after many, many times writing and overwriting, but you have nothing to worry about. You would have to flash your device 1000 times or more before it starts degrading your memory.
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Mineden said:
So there doesn't seem to be many roms for your device
But I would recommend
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-a/development/rom-20190123-t3892802
As I used it for a year and had no problems with it
and also it has incredible customizability
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Will do thanks
Droidriven said:
It is true that solid state storage deteriorates over time after many, many times writing and overwriting, but you have nothing to worry about. You would have to flash your device 1000 times or more before it starts degrading your memory.
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Wow thanks! Wish I'd know that on my TAB7 I endured the sluggishness for about a year... before I split coffee and blew the USB charging circuit that is!
Mineden said:
So there doesn't seem to be many roms for your device
But I would recommend
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-a/development/rom-20190123-t3892802
As I used it for a year and had no problems with it
and also it has incredible customizability
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Did you have issue with video rendering (static), but sound is okay!? I read it's after deep sleep which seems to be the case. Makes me think it's some soft of video related rendering codec . Codecs don't seem to like anything and often crash regular PC's. Not overly bothered becuase Video quality have never been SM-Txxx priority it seems. Just handy for quick movies of squirrels etc. Works flawless on official ROM (maybe a Samsung conspiracy secret!)... Some codecs are patented too, but maybe I'm getting a little too deep for a Sunday afternoon!
Mineden said:
So there doesn't seem to be many roms for your device
But I would recommend
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-a/development/rom-20190123-t3892802
As I used it for a year and had no problems with it
and also it has incredible customizability
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Sorry, the answer to the video problem is right at the top of the ROM description!

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