[Q] What is HTC doing now ??? - General Questions and Answers

There am i thinking HTC were starting to get in touch with its customers
OH NO!!!!
NO EXTERNAL Storage on there New Phones
instead there offering 25gb Cloud storage
so any one that is throttled with there data is well screwed
Why is HTC trying to copy Apple
They will end up in court for one
Plus we buy HTC because there nothing like Apple have have these features
Yes were getting 1GB of memory oooooo thats not alot
Mind You memory and HTC has never been good bed fellows
Do they think we will buy there phones because there more like iphones errrrrr NO !!!
HTC's PR CEO must be a APPLE fan
The other thing is we get a external simm slot
Who wanted this how many times do people change there simm
I think a memo has got mixed up in translation here
eg a external SD slot

HTC is always looking for ways to lower costs. Perhaps in doing this they can improve manufacturing quality.

NO EXTERNAL Storage on there New Phones except cloud - I feel this is the new trend we will be seeing...
Yes were getting 1GB of memory oooooo thats not alot - lets see how well the phones run with ICS and 1GB... I remeber my first laptop only had 256mb until I upgraded it...
The other thing is we get a external simm slot - My gf has 2 phones she constantly switches between, one portable and one smartphone
All in all I think the one x seems like a pretty sweet phone and will probably be my INC2 replacement. Although I'm not a big fan of the non-removable battery....

When I heard about them putting more energy into Beats audio and better cameras.. No HTC phones for more, for a while

THEY'RE ignoring people that don't know THEIR "theirs" from their "theres"! So they don't give a hoot what you think!

They've lost two advantages for android over apple, an external SD card and a removable battery.
I would be done with this move if it had a mega battery, but that 1800mah will probably crap out pretty quick. The 26gb is enough for me so avoiding the nexus becusse of its 16gb isn't so much of an issue here
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yea, im not impressed with the "One" line of phones. I dont like the X simple because of the brick shape that mimics the GS2S look, as i prefer a more rounded look to the phone.
Lack of replaceable battery and mSD slot is a deal breaker. I just purchased a microSD 32gig so im not letting it rot.
Ill keep going after the Amaze.

Well lets hope its not a trend
The S3 should keep the external SD as a dig at Apple
But removable batteries are a must these phones look cheep to me
This opens up it competitors LG seem to be improving and listening and they needed to
My next phone looks like a Razor Max Europe version (unlocked Bootloader)
But yet again HTC cutting costs but were still paying full for them
looks like more custom developers will be leaving there me thinking they listened to XDA

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No microSD card extension a new trend lately

http://www.htcphones.net/htc-one-x-specs-pros-and-cons/
Pros
The HTC One X sports a 4.7-inch 720p Super LCD display similar to the HTC Titan but with higher resolution and pixel density. Still the latter can’t be equaled to iPhone’s Retina Display, but it is getting closer — 720×1280 pixels and 312ppi pixel density.
Though we don’t know what dimensions the phone will come at, the manufacturer has managed to fit all high-end features in a solid housing.
The key feature is the Nvidia Tegra 3 processor clocked at 1.5GHz.
The One X can take photos with the help of an 8MP rear camera and there is also a VGA frontal camera for web chat. You can check out the sample photo’s quality in our post.
Beats Audio.
Super connectivity options in face of WiFi (2.4GHz & 5GHz), Bluetooth 4.0 and NFC.
1800mAh battery.
Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich and Sense 4.0.
Cons
No microSD card extension ability.
The limited colors of a notification LED on the device.
Support for only microSIM cards.
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So is the no microsd support becoming a new trend now? Started with Google Nexus followed by Sony's Xperia S and now HTC Endeavor. I understand the advantage of not needing microsd, that you can just plug your phone to the pc and then still able to play music (or whatever apps) through your phone uninterrupted, but there are still people who find the fix capacity a little...hard to deal with.
I thought the internal sd card was originally to comply with windows mobile specification, then manufacturers used the same hardware for other models e.g. sensation XL is the Titan, just with Android instead of wm7. I'm not sure this will result in a new trend, but being unable to eject the card, also having a known specification of card probably reduces problems to the OS.
Not sure the larger displays on the new crop of phones are an improvement, with only a 1800mAh battery the reviews will probably ***** hardest about the short battery life.
the 1800mAH is gonna die!! click thx if ur agree with me!!
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the 1800mAH is gonna die!! click thx if ur agree with me!!
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This craving for "Thanks"-Hits lately is really annoying, to say the least. (Not directly in your direction, but in general).
Back on topic:
I´m not that fond of this trend, but it seems it is going that way.
My only concern about this, is the fact that it is getting more difficult to, let´s say, flash a firmware, that won´t boot up with your current rom etc.
Other then that, I don´t see that much of an disadvantage.
Sibbi said:
This craving for "Thanks"-Hits lately is really annoying, to say the least. (Not directly in your direction, but in general).
Back on topic:
I´m not that fond of this trend, but it seems it is going that way.
My only concern about this, is the fact that it is getting more difficult to, let´s say, flash a firmware, that won´t boot up with your current rom etc.
Other then that, I don´t see that much of an disadvantage.
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Mate don't get me wrong, I never crave for thx, I was saying ppl will obviously agree the 1800mAH batt will be killed by tegra 3 quad core that's all.
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thelegendarylegends said:
Mate don't get me wrong, I never crave for thx, I was saying ppl will obviously agree the 1800mAH batt will be killed by tegra 3 quad core that's all.
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It´s allright. I see your point and agree with it. But still I find it annoying, that there are lately a lot of people trying everything to get a few more hits.
But this topic is falling apart. Lets get back on the track!
Sibbi said:
It´s allright. I see your point and agree with it. But still I find it annoying, that there are lately a lot of people trying everything to get a few more hits.
But this topic is falling apart. Lets get back on the track!
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Yep agree with you! Let's get back on topic !!
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no micro sd slot = no purchase for me
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nba1341 said:
no micro sd slot = no purchase for me
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i agree!! this is what makes android, android, unlike some iJail where ppl must buy their iProducts for everything
thelegendarylegends said:
Mate don't get me wrong, I never crave for thx, I was saying ppl will obviously agree the 1800mAH batt will be killed by tegra 3 quad core that's all.
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Well Tegra 3 does have that low power and low clocked 5th core ("companion core") for standby so that should extend the battery life a bit.
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Well Tegra 3 does have that low power and low clocked 5th core ("companion core") for standby so that should extend the battery life a bit.
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Cool!!!!
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The no micro sd thing doesn't bother me at all. As long as I can connect it to pc and manage my files, I'm cool with that.
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moshe22 said:
The no micro sd thing doesn't bother me at all. As long as I can connect it to pc and manage my files, I'm cool with that.
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And as long as the internal is more or equal to 32gb, because ill feel cheated, when other phones can be used with with bigger sd cards
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I dont know if most future high end phones might endup with a fixed storage capacity, but if that is the case, maybe I might have to get a mid end phone for my multimedia needs. Dont know if it will make flashing more difficult but I do know this, if companies release a 16gb first followed by a 32gb a couple of months later, I will likely rage. At least with a removable microsd, I have nothing to rage about..(unless one of them somehow gets corrupted)
Personally I keep another 32gb microsd filled with chinese dramas in my wallet.
Not sure it bothers me too much the no SD card slot thing, would rather it all be inbuilt than have problems like the Cha Cha has constantly running out of internal/inbuilt storage... I suppose the only thing I'd miss is the re-assurance that if my phone completely died I could still get my files and photos out of the phone without any trouble...
thelegendarylegends said:
And as long as the internal is more or equal to 32gb, because ill feel cheated, when other phones can be used with with bigger sd cards
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But it would be better to use 32GB internal and 32GB external storage
I hope you can access the storage via MSC, MTP sucks if you are on Linux or any other system that uses MSC (eg radios etc.)
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Well Tegra 3 does have that low power and low clocked 5th core ("companion core") for standby so that should extend the battery life a bit.
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This. Battery life should theoretically be better.
The reason...is economics.
When memory was a lot more expensive, it was more cost effective to let the consumer pay for large sums of memory.remember when 16 gig micro sd Coss cost 100 bucks?
Blame Apple who were charging An extra 100 bucks for an extra 8 gigs. Pure profit for phone makers now that memory its so cheap now.
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This. Battery life should theoretically be better.
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only in theory. most power consumption its the screen i think 4.7" 720 p will use at least %50 more than sensation. so this is what we all find annoying todays phone. Only motorola has tried to give, bigger battery 3300 mah which i think its awesome! Htc should sell their flagship with bigger battery.no micro sd i dont think its any problem, most of people using 8 gig sd card so if phone 16 or even 32 whats the deal.
No micro sd card slot is a disaster for me. My music collection is over 40gb, games are often up to a gb each, my European maps are about 2gb and I like to have a few films or tv shows on board to kill time too. With a more powerful phone I'm going to want have hi-def films on board so I can stream to my tv (or to a friend's tv). I also have loads of photos from holidays and stuff which I like to keep on my memory card. Not only do I want a micro sd card slot, I want new devices to support micro sdxc for MUCH greater storage capacities and faster transfer speeds.
The cloud has its place for me, but I don't want to be left looking like a chump when I can't access a photo or song because there is either a slow or non-existent data connection. What about when my phone has to be on flight mode? Why would I want to eat into my data allowance to stream a song that could so easily be on a memory card? Streaming stuff to my phone uses noticeably more battery too.
Manufacturers want us to have fixed storage so we have to upgrade our handsets as our storage needs grow. They also realise that people are prepared to splash the cash on larger memory cards so they figure they would rather put that memory in the phone and take the extra money from us instead of letting that cash go to a card manufacturer. Finally, networks want us to store our stuff in the cloud because sooner or later we will go over our data allowances and they will make a killing in extra charges.....the next time we get a contract we'll all go for more expensive plans with a better allowance. They're not worried about the unnecessary data slowing down our mobile networks because they'll just throttle connection speeds accordingly.
Choice is good. 'Light' users won't mind a lack of SD card slot, but those of us who truly use our devices for media storage, communication, photography, sat nav and increasingly as a dockable pc replacement are really gutted. Windows mobile used to be able to connect in two ways, so there's no reason why our current devices can't pull the same trick.

Why on earth would HTC not release the one S with 32GB memory is beyond me.

What I am looking for is a compact phone not a mini TV like the one X or galaxy S3.
My options are one S, xperia S and galaxy S2. One S is overall the superior but annoyingly it is severely gimped by HTC in the storage. Why wont they release the 32GB version and charge a bit more for it?
What does HTC think that I am gonna buy the one X if I want more memory? No HTC there are plenty of other companies fighting to get my $ and there are plenty of phones other than the one X and one S.
Samsung has already sent HTC to the distant second in the android camp and yet they act like they can gimp their second best phone in something so essential as storage. It is one thing not having a technological edge over your competitor okay fine but these sort intentional things to bottleneck your phone are just ridiculous.
The one X is beat by S3 but the one S seems to rule it's category of 4.3" phones. Hurrah HTC for not realizing you had a real winner with the one S. 10GB USB storage is a joke for a phone that can record 1080p video and play all the latest games.
At least they could have used unified storage like the galaxy nexus to make 16GB total space somewhat more acceptable.
that is so true. But to bring only 16gb to europe seems to be more commen these days. The S3 will also only come with 16gb...
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that is so true. But to bring only 16gb to europe seems to be more commen these days. The S3 will also only come with 16gb...
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Hmm S3 has 16/32/64GB variants and more importantly all of them have SD card slot so it doesnt matter even if one can only get 16GB one.
We have less than 16gigs on our phone. To use,that is. Very disappointing
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Fully agree!
if storage is an issue...get something else
problem solved!
But it's not that easy choice. The thing is that you don't have that many alternatives in this phone/price class. U don't buy a phone just for SD-slot . I would love to have so powerful handset like One S. I am sure that it'll have a decent devs' support (unlikely to xperia s) pretty soon. Lack of SD-slot makes purchase of One S a quite big compromise though. I think it was extremely stupid move of HTC. They were on a best way to have a crown king of 4.3" phones. If you consider all pros and cons one year old (and of course less powerful but still very solid) S2 doesn't seem a bad choice today.
Yes exactly the S2 may have a slower CPU but other than that it equals or beats the one S in everything else. Better screen, SD card slot and removable battery.
SD card would be a non issue for me with 32GB and removable battery is an advantage but not really a significant one. Comon HTC still you have time, be wise and release a 32GB version.
I really cannot understand you folks.. If you say that HTC is silly because they didn't meet your personal desires, then you're not thinking reasonably enough..
HTC clearly designed the One X as their power horse, not the One S. Due to quad core, NFC and hd display they thought it follows future trends and looking at the SGS3 they had quite the same idea. For those producers 4.8" is now the standard and they believe that people will adept to this, just like they always do. So the One S is not designed to catch power users who would sell their souls for any modern invention, but simply the rest. So it kept 4.3" and to have something special, it got this beautiful design. Neither HTC nor Samsung would have expected even power users to deny 4.8" because of terms of usability. We can be grateful that they got this amazing S4 for the One S because this is, what makes it a competitor to those power horses since quad cores are not nearly fully supported.
BUT: If you produce a high class and a middle class model, then you simply HAVE to make differences to push the max. amount of consumers towards your more expensive high class model. Producers like HTC are well doing in statistical analytics and they just calculated that most people out of the target group for the One S would accept the tradeoff with 16 GB storage. Solo many people complained about the storage, nevertheless ended up buying the One S and made HTC proof.
For me the storage is more than enough. I am making compromises with my smartphone. I have other devices and do not have to carry around my whole library on my phone.
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Lets wait for a kernel hack and maybe we can repartition the space. I don't need 2gb internal storage, only 1gb so this would be a little help.
Also if USB host mode can get enabled, if we are taking recording a few HD videos, we will be able to offload them. Not ideal but a workaround. It wouldn't be so bad if we did actually have 16gb storage, but by default were left with 10gb usable space.
Apparently 4gb is used for the O/S and Sense. This can certainly be halved for me. So hopefully we will be able to get 13gb of usable storage space.
Most smartphones come with a high / unlimited data plan, So users can just upload **** to dropbox or similar, and download some new stuff.. All my pics and videos are automatically sent to the cloud, so i dont need them on my phone 24/7..
And if you dont have unlimited data, Almost everywhere has wifi, and even some carriers include free wifi hotspots.. So for me its absolutely fine... However i do feel a bit ''cheated'' after realising the whole 16gb wasnt useable... I would have imagined it to be about 20gb - 4gb for system/apps whatever and 16gb for the actual user...
but thats life, find a workaround if you really want this phone, the rest of us did
kyuubi_ac said:
I really cannot understand you folks.. If you say that HTC is silly because they didn't meet your personal desires, then you're not thinking reasonably enough..
HTC clearly designed the One X as their power horse, not the One S. Due to quad core, NFC and hd display they thought it follows future trends and looking at the SGS3 they had quite the same idea. For those producers 4.8" is now the standard and they believe that people will adept to this, just like they always do. So the One S is not designed to catch power users who would sell their souls for any modern invention, but simply the rest. So it kept 4.3" and to have something special, it got this beautiful design. Neither HTC nor Samsung would have expected even power users to deny 4.8" because of terms of usability. We can be grateful that they got this amazing S4 for the One S because this is, what makes it a competitor to those power horses since quad cores are not nearly fully supported.
BUT: If you produce a high class and a middle class model, then you simply HAVE to make differences to push the max. amount of consumers towards your more expensive high class model. Producers like HTC are well doing in statistical analytics and they just calculated that most people out of the target group for the One S would accept the tradeoff with 16 GB storage. Solo many people complained about the storage, nevertheless ended up buying the One S and made HTC proof.
For me the storage is more than enough. I am making compromises with my smartphone. I have other devices and do not have to carry around my whole library on my phone.
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I've never said that HTC in general is silly(they made a stupid move ). Hold on your horses. I just think that 16 gb of memory (10 gb user available) is a joke when a hq photo weighs 3 mb, and a nand backup approx. 1 GB (Well AOSP based a half of it). It's not about meeting my personal desires. Either SD-slot or more than 16 gb of internal storage is definitely NOT a luxury in 2012 (and especially not for a popular and one of the most expensive android phones). And lack of possibility to extend it is IMO a step backwards. I am aware that One X is a flagship, but come on it doesn't mean users that prefer 4.3" have to "shut up, be grateful" and do not demand anything more than it was brought in 2011. I do not expect a quad-core CPU, it's not my goal. But Galaxy S2 standard with something faster than Mali 400? Why shouldn't I? It's 2012.
For some users it is enough with 10 GB of storage and I respect that. For me is not. I flash a lot of software, I play with theming, and thus I need a lot of free space for roms, mods and nand backups (Sometimes I restore different backups several times a day), + some 3-4 gb for music (not everything can be found on spotify) and video-files.
I still think HTC One S is a very interesting device with huge potential to become a legendary phone, but as any other handset it has its cons that should be taken into consideration before I make my final decision about purchase.
kyuubi_ac said:
I really cannot understand you folks.. If you say that HTC is silly because they didn't meet your personal desires, then you're not thinking reasonably enough..
HTC clearly designed the One X as their power horse, not the One S. Due to quad core, NFC and hd display they thought it follows future trends and looking at the SGS3 they had quite the same idea. For those producers 4.8" is now the standard and they believe that people will adept to this, just like they always do. So the One S is not designed to catch power users who would sell their souls for any modern invention, but simply the rest. So it kept 4.3" and to have something special, it got this beautiful design. Neither HTC nor Samsung would have expected even power users to deny 4.8" because of terms of usability. We can be grateful that they got this amazing S4 for the One S because this is, what makes it a competitor to those power horses since quad cores are not nearly fully supported.
BUT: If you produce a high class and a middle class model, then you simply HAVE to make differences to push the max. amount of consumers towards your more expensive high class model. Producers like HTC are well doing in statistical analytics and they just calculated that most people out of the target group for the One S would accept the tradeoff with 16 GB storage. Solo many people complained about the storage, nevertheless ended up buying the One S and made HTC proof.
For me the storage is more than enough. I am making compromises with my smartphone. I have other devices and do not have to carry around my whole library on my phone.
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One X has the HD screen and quad core CPU to lure power users. It doesnt take a power user to not be happy with 10GB storage.
Why would HTC want to sell a one X instead of one S? It's not like the one S is some low end phone. A user chooses either phone and it's win-win for HTC. I think the main purpose of the one S to be an option for those who dont like big phones.
And I wont be buying a 16GB one S, I just made the thread in a very naive hope that maybe someone at HTC would notice lol.
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Most smartphones come with a high / unlimited data plan, So users can just upload **** to dropbox or similar, and download some new stuff.. All my pics and videos are automatically sent to the cloud, so i dont need them on my phone 24/7..
And if you dont have unlimited data, Almost everywhere has wifi, and even some carriers include free wifi hotspots.. So for me its absolutely fine... However i do feel a bit ''cheated'' after realising the whole 16gb wasnt useable... I would have imagined it to be about 20gb - 4gb for system/apps whatever and 16gb for the actual user...
but thats life, find a workaround if you really want this phone, the rest of us did
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Cloud storage is BS for everyday usage. Even if one has unlimited it sucks battery.
And it's also an extra element of file management that I would rather not have to deal with.
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Why would HTC want to sell a one X instead of one S? It's not like the one S is some low end phone. A user chooses either phone and it's win-win for HTC. I think the main purpose of the one S to be an option for those who dont like big phones.
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Exactly, One S is HTC's second most expensive device! The crown king of smartphones' world in 2011 was a 4.3" device. Today all flagships are 4.6"+ but it doesn't mean that 4'3" suddenly became low ends with no chances for further development.
I guess it's only Sony that sees the demand for powerful handsets with smaller screens- and I am grateful for that
@m.kochan10: I absolutely agree with you that the storage might become quite little regarding the usage of some of us. And I really don't like HTC to announce a phone with 16GB if there are only 10GB for free purpose. It's quite normal that those storage sizes never are promoted exactly and I'm aware of the fact that you actually can calculate this way since the other GBs actually do exist, but it's not fair regarding people thinking they'll have about 16GB for their media or what else.
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Either SD-slot or more than 16 gb of internal storage is definitely NOT a luxury in 2012 (...) And lack of possibility to extend it is IMO a step backwards.
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There are right and false points in those statements IMHO. You're right that e.g. 32GB internal storage wouldn't be luxury and practicable even without additional costs for the device. But I actually worked for a lot of companies which had to make such decisions and I can guarantee that this is a calculated, strategical, economical decision. The simply want to make differences between those two devices larger. Why?
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Why would HTC want to sell a one X instead of one S? It's not like the one S is some low end phone. A user chooses either phone and it's win-win for HTC.
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Because it means $$$.. Those two devices have most probably the same costs of production, the One S most likely even is more expensive in production and $100 difference per sold device mean a huge amount of capital. Folks I don't want to say that you should "shut up and be grateful", of course not. But complaining about economical decisions of a global player won't change a thing until they sell their devices. The don't give anything about what we think as long as they sell those devices and earn money. Selling the One X is far more lucrative. We simply have to think about the fact, that more than 80% of all world wide consumers actually don't give that much about tech spec as we do here. They like to see and feel a cool, slim, new device that has on letter huge numbers like 12mp cam, 100gb storage and 4ghz octa core cpu's not even knowing what that would be mean but having something to show off with in front of others. But they do not enter forums like this one, the do not root the device, they do not have nandroid backups, custom roms etc. Regarding this we even on Android are the minority. The average user will not complain about 10gb as long as she is able to put some of her music on it, shoot some pics and vids while on the road and installing most popular apps. And if you let people (who did not buy the flagship) choose between a 10mm-device with SD slot and removable battery and a 8mm-device with fixed storage and battery, most average users would choose the slim one. It's all about numbers and $$$, not about what HTC would be able to do. They're simply not willing and have reasons for this.
Regarding SD cards:
I appreciate it to avoid them since they are slow, not state of the art anymore and are trouble makers in any purpose you can think of. Of course from the users point of view it's nice to have extendable and removable storage that is quite cheap as well, but developers actually hate them because app development suffers from this. It's just like always: We have pros and cons here.
So I just want to make sure that I don't want to tell you that it's cool that we only have 10GBs, but that HTC has of course thought about this and that they have clear reasons for their decisions ($).
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Most smartphones come with a high / unlimited data plan, ...
And if you dont have unlimited data, Almost everywhere has wifi, and even some carriers include free wifi hotspots.. /snip
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Really? Most people that I know have 1GB/month dataplans.
And as for universal wifi - this is sorely lacking as well.
Moreover, the first rule of travel: never rely on networks
I think that HTC should have made 16GB available to the user and that would have been fine for me - 10GB is a bit small. But I understand why they didn't.
Drawbacks of a microSD slot:
*SD card speed confusion
*battery drain issues (different cards have different current consumption)
*cost and space of a card slot
*lots of people buying microSD cards that are fake or sub-par, thereby creating stability issues that are blamed on HTC, but in fact lie with the card.
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Drawbacks of a microSD slot:
*SD card speed confusion
*battery drain issues (different cards have different current consumption)
*cost and space of a card slot
*lots of people buying microSD cards that are fake or sub-par, thereby creating stability issues that are blamed on HTC, but in fact lie with the card.
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Good points
Now it's interesting discussion. I like that
@kyuubi_ac I agree that manufacturers think first of all about average users that want to enjoy their shiny devices "out of the box" and I understand their decision from a strategic, and microeconomic point of view. Average user doesn't know what is "recovery mode" not to mention a nandroid backup, and for such users 10 GB ... is not a tragedy as long as everything works as it is supposed to.
We...somehow more demanding users must consider every feature more carefully and it's almost always a compromise. Would you like to have a faster CPU/GPU or bigger storage and slightly slower processor? Better camera or unlocked bootloader and better devs' support? All about opportunity costs.
Absolutely agreeing.
I dont agree at all that it was in the best interest of business for HTC to take such decisions. No offense to any HTC fan but if HTC really knew how to do business then they wouldnt have lost so much marketshare to samsung, they wouldnt have made so little profit in the last quarter.
HTC is not apple people dont blindly buy their product, a company like HTC really needs hardcore users to like their devices and then spread the word.
Even apple makes 3 different storage variants of their phones, clearly there is demand for different kinds of storage or else they wont.
Even the low end one V has more storage than one S because it supports SD card pop in a 16GB card and you have total 15.5GB usable memory. OMG see how ridiculous is it??
If HTC wasnt serious about one S they shouldnt have released it. They have essentially ruined the phone for an item that doesnt even cost $20 to manufacture.

[Q] Is the One-S a good replacement for HD2?

Sadly, it has come to the time to replace my my trusty HD2, which has been the best phone I have ever owned.
Because of it's sheer awesomeness, there's some pretty big shoes to fill being left by the HD2 (and that is in no small part to the amazing work of certain people on this forum to literally turn the HD2 in to the device it was meant to have been via incredible ROM dev).
Tmob USA are offering me a One-S and on paper it looks pretty good but can avy of you tell me if it't a worthy upgrade?
The main thing that worries me is the lack of SD card (and only 1gb of internal mem if I'm reading it right?).
The other thing is that it doesn't seem to multitask well and at some points have several very intensive things happening with my phone at once (GPS nva, while downloading a torrent, while being on a voice call and googling something for instance).
Can anyone tell me if the One-S will stand up?
If yiu are due for an upgrade wait four more days and get the sgs3. It has ext card as well. Htc one s is a good phone as well though.
The HD2 is a cult classic. Is the One S a good contender? It certainly is. The phone imo opinion hits the sweet spot going by size, easy one handed operation which I believe is necessary.
It has 16GB total memory and 1GB ram. From the 16GB, 10GB is accessible for photo's and the like. Dropbox have a sense 4 promotion that when you sign you you get 25GB free, so size shouldnt be an issue. Multi-tasking has been fine for me, but that is user dependent.
With the S4 snapdragon soc you have a true next generation processor, so performance will be amazing. Its the same processor in the ATT One X, Evo 4G LTE and rumoured to be in the Samsung GS3 LTE variant.
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Sadly, it has come to the time to replace my my trusty HD2, which has been the best phone I have ever owned.
Because of it's sheer awesomeness, there's some pretty big shoes to fill being left by the HD2 (and that is in no small part to the amazing work of certain people on this forum to literally turn the HD2 in to the device it was meant to have been via incredible ROM dev).
Tmob USA are offering me a One-S and on paper it looks pretty good but can avy of you tell me if it't a worthy upgrade?
The main thing that worries me is the lack of SD card (and only 1gb of internal mem if I'm reading it right?).
The other thing is that it doesn't seem to multitask well and at some points have several very intensive things happening with my phone at once (GPS nva, while downloading a torrent, while being on a voice call and googling something for instance).
Can anyone tell me if the One-S will stand up?
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It's one thing to ask for input from people but until you actually go to the store and hold one in your hand and use it a little it won't be the same, personally I love it and I have a few different devices but what I like might not be what your looking for and the fact that you can't just pull the battery or put in a sd card usually makes people leery about getting it but after actually holding it and testing it out I was sold.
It's worth checking out, I had my upgrade for a few months and I waited to see how it felt in the store and bought it on the spot there's something about the way HTC builds their devices that makes me feel better about having one, they are solid in build and lack that plastic feel ( like it's gonna break if you bend it though not intentional it happens) the weight is deceiving and after holding a MT4G it feels so much lighter but just as strong.
I don't wanna make your decision for you though just go in and mess with it, you'll know if it's right for you...
Best phone ever
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Did the same switch from HD2 to HOS and it was the best choice of these times. Mayby in future I'll consider switching to another that will have an sd card additionally, if HTC will manufacture such device (same specs and dimensions as HOS but with an sd card ). Otherwise love the phone, battery life is amazing comparing wirh HD 2. Rom development not so extensive as for HD 2 but in time...... It's a good choice to go for the HOS
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I switched from HD2 to ONE S.
No regrets.
Not one bit.
Switched from the hd2 also...and im vary happy. But I do wish it had more storage or a external memory. But that's because I have a lot of music. And some places I go don't have good coverage and google play dosent stream well. But if you don't plan on storing large amounts of media on your phone you'll be fine. If I had a do over I'd still get this phone. It's a good solid phone.
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I have just upgraded from HTC HD2 to HTC ONE S...The phone will be delivered in 2 days...can't wait.
I made the same jump, upgraded from HD2 to the One S. I love it, the size and feel of the device is great! No regrets here, but it is dependent on your use case. For example, if you can't live without an sdcard because you have a ton of music and images etc then it might not be the phone for you and the S3 might be the one that suits you. Now if that isn't something that will be an issue for you then the One S won't disappoint!
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From HD2 with CM7 to One S with ICS. (forced upgrade due to screen shattering).
1) Both phone have solid construction. the HD2 lasted 2 years and expect the One S to last longer
2) thin, the One S is much thinner and lighter
3) Screen, screen size are similar, however One S looks a little better
4) ICS is great. I dont' even mind Sense 4.0. Will try CM9 when the last bugs are worked out (camcorder)

htc one V vs sensation xe - need advice / opinions / anything please

Hi People!
I'm currently looking for my first smartphone to replace my 6 year old Nokia 5810 (it's done well bless it).
I've narrowed my choice down to either the HTC One V for £190 (new) or an HTC Sensation XE (new - without Beats Headphones) for £250
I'm sold on Sense and would like to purchase either one soon.
Is the older dual core XE worth £70 more?
Am I right in believing i'll get better battery life and a smoother Sense 4.0 experience with the One V?
I'd appreciate any info or opinions between the two
I think you've just about convinced yourself to get the One V. It is a very good phone although I took the One S. The One V is better on battery life over the XE .
By the way are those prices incl. VAT?
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I think you've just about convinced yourself to get the One V. It is a very good phone although I took the One S. The One V is better on battery life over the XE .
By the way are those prices incl. VAT?
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Thanks for the reply.
Yes VAT included - I was also strongly considering the One S but I'm buying sim-free and can't quite part with £360 for it.
Do you think the single core of the One V will cope with most things? I'm not much of a gamer and from what i've seen the One V is a high quality phone for the price range
Decisions, decisions
Now to throw a new spanner in the works - i've just seen an HTC One S for £295 (mint condition and it includes a 12 month warranty)
Bit of a price difference between One V (no warranty unless I opt for an ebay promoted one) and One S but effectively rules out the Sensation XE at £250
All I want is a sim-free phone that will last for 2-3 years or possibly more - so I kind of hoping the hardware will cope with app development over this time
Would the lack of SD card and non-removable battery limit the One S' lifespan?
Would I be paying over-the-odds for the One S if I'm new to smartphones let alone Android?
I'd appreciate any feedback or advice on these devices
Well I'm new to Android too. I'm liking my One V (cant compare to anything else). Seeing as I have already rooted it for the extra functionality & control, it means I've voided my warranty anyway.
It also has a non-removable battery the same as the One S.
But to me the lack of memory card on the 'better' phones is a no-brainer.
In 4 years of using my old C902 I still have 2GB (out of 8GB) left on the memory card, the phone wasnt up to much, with no wifi, & imo a rubbish camera. I didnt do much with it.
Yet in just 6 weeks of owning the One V, I've only got 2GB left on my 16GB card. Basically with the phone being all-singing & all-dancing, & a much better camera (despite both cameras being 5 megapixels) I have found I'm doing far more with it. As a result I'm rapidly filling up the memory card. So I have since put in a 64GB card. Had I bought the One S instead, I would have already filled the storage by now.
lack of SD - a minor problem? or major one?
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Well I'm new to Android too. I'm liking my One V (cant compare to anything else). Seeing as I have already rooted it for the extra functionality & control, it means I've voided my warranty anyway.
It also has a non-removable battery the same as the One S.
But to me the lack of memory card on the 'better' phones is a no-brainer.
In 4 years of using my old C902 I still have 2GB (out of 8GB) left on the memory card, the phone wasnt up to much, with no wifi, & imo a rubbish camera. I didnt do much with it.
Yet in just 6 weeks of owning the One V, I've only got 2GB left on my 16GB card. Basically with the phone being all-singing & all-dancing, & a much better camera (despite both cameras being 5 megapixels) I have found I'm doing far more with it. As a result I'm rapidly filling up the memory card. So I have since put in a 64GB card. Had I bought the One S instead, I would have already filled the storage by now.
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Hi Ssscrudddy,
You've made an interesting point there, as I've tried justifying the lack of SD as I wouldn't be loading music onto the One S at all just apps.
Out of interest, what is taking up so much of your memory? Have you used dropbox yet?
Mainly 8GB of music, & a whole bunch of motorbike videos. Also I like to video stuff, like with photography, it can often take a lot of videoing to get enough decent footage to be worthwhile using. Seeing as I'm without a decent camera at the moment (the last 1 fell off a motorbike & I'm skint atm) the best camera I have right now is my phone (One V).
I've used dropbox & I thinks it's really good. It actually saved me from getting prosecuted. Long story short, a company I have to deal with the security guards decided they didnt like me filming (I was filming as proof of what I was doing). They restrained me, took my phone, deleted the video, called the police & told a pack of lies. Thanks to dropbox though the video was still on the net (even though they deleted the vid from my phone, it must have uploaded it from a temporary file) & I was able to prove I had done nothing wrong.
My problem is that my usual haunts always seem to have really bad network coverage & there never seems to be any wifi about. As a result I like to have my stuff stored locally.
Now on the bigger card I've got 16GB of music, no change in anything else though.

[Q] Gah; Handset Insanity! Help me choose my next phone

I know that you guys probably see dozens of these kinds of threads from confused geeks like me who just can't make up their minds, but I'm really stuck here. I've been up for hours reading about all of the handsets on the market right now and I just can't settle on one option that I like the best for my situation. I'm hoping that some of the more experienced users can help me out on this.
For context, I've been using an HTC Desire for the past two years no problem. I love the phone, but it is showing it's age and the internal memory is an issue. So I would like to get a new one, that can last me at the very least two more years. My budget is around 600 dollars.
I live in Canada, so the situation with carriers is pretty bad. I'm currently on Telus (HSPA+) and would prefer to own my phone so that I can bypass this whole contract crap and negotiate better prices for my monthly bills.
Anyways, boiled down, this is what I'm looking for:
Compatible with Telus HSPA+ Network (Rogers is a plus)
Either a MicroSD slot or 32+ onboard storage
At least 24 hours of battery life on a single charge
Decent performance, don't really play games but would like a lag free interface
Healthy hacking community
Good build quality and durability. It should be able to take a fall
Flash camera. Camera quality is a negligible factor but I use the flashlight every day.
Out of all of the devices I've seen thus far, I'm leaning most towards the OneX+. But I've also looked at the Galaxy Nexus and liked it as well. There is also the SGS3 but I think that phone is really ugly and don't really like it. Choices... choices... can I hear a voice of reason here?
What do you think about a Motorola Atrix 4G. It have a dual-core CPU (1Ghz), 16Go of internal memory + MicroSD slot up to 32Go. HSPA+ compatible, a great assembly quality with Kevlar. A high-capacity battery (more than one day of autonomy). A good healthed developers community.
I think it's the best phone for your requirements. It's not the all brand new smartphone, but you'll keep it for a longtime if you take care of it
GoL LuM
PS: I forgot to say it have two very powerful LEDs flash (more powerful than Galaxy S2 flash)
Sorry for my bad english
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GoL LuM said:
What do you think about a Motorola Atrix 4G. It have a dual-core CPU (1Ghz), 16Go of internal memory + MicroSD slot up to 32Go. HSPA+ compatible, a great assembly quality with Kevlar. A high-capacity battery (more than one day of autonomy). A good healthed developers community.
I think it's the best phone for your requirements. It's not the all brand new smartphone, but you'll keep it for a longtime if you take care of it
GoL LuM
PS: I forgot to say it have two very powerful LEDs flash (more powerful than Galaxy S2 flash)
Sorry for my bad english
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I hadn't though of that one actually. From the looks of it, everything that I want is there. However, from the development pages, it looks like Motorola is being quite active in suppressing the hacking community, especially by not providing them graphics drivers which leads to numerous bugs in ICS and JB. That might be a deal breaker for me unless an Atrix4G owner can weigh in and clear my suspicions.
Note 2 if that isn't too big for u! Idk y u don't like s3 but 20million + people who bought it can't go wrong! and u oughtta sacrifice somethin to gain somethin! Just sayin. Ur wish! And BTW one x + is great. Isn't nexus4 there? Cuz nexus is already too old!
Ps - and don't ever think of buying moto. I myself own an atrix2. They r too unresponsive / ignorant about their customers. Worst OEM ever. And they have everything locked down (bootloader), so not really much of development!
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Note 2 if that isn't too big for u! Idk y u don't like s3 but 20million + people who bought it can't go wrong! and u oughtta sacrifice somethin to gain somethin! Just sayin. Ur wish! And BTW one x + is great. Isn't nexus4 there? Cuz nexus is already too old!
Ps - and don't ever think of buying moto. I myself own an atrix2. They r too unresponsive / ignorant about their customers. Worst OEM ever. And they have everything locked down (bootloader), so not really much of development!
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The Note2 is far to big for my tiny hands, haha. The reason I don't like the S3 is because of the garish chamfered edges and the design that basically screams "no we aren't copying apple" while not offering any real inspired design. It's just too unrelentingly samsung. While Moto might be the worst OEM, I think samsung is pretty close.
Nexus 4 is out of the question because of it's pathetic amount of internal storage and no MicroSD slot. Also it is basically a glass enclosed phone so it won't have the durability of something like the one x+.
Honestly, I think I am going to go with the One X+ because it seems that it has the best internal battery, great specs, though I will probably hobble it a bit for extra battery life with a more efficient kernel. Also it seems that it could survive re-entry into the atmosphere with that fused ceramic/metal enclosure.
Then again... I might just go with the S3. I mean it is butt ugly but it has everything that I want in a phone. MicroSD, removable battery, nice screen, hacking community... damn. It's really not making it easy on my that the phone costs 150 dollars less than the OneX+. Plus the button is on the side as opposed to the top, which is nice.
CentiZen said:
I know that you guys probably see dozens of these kinds of threads from confused geeks like me who just can't make up their minds, but I'm really stuck here. I've been up for hours reading about all of the handsets on the market right now and I just can't settle on one option that I like the best for my situation. I'm hoping that some of the more experienced users can help me out on this.
For context, I've been using an HTC Desire for the past two years no problem. I love the phone, but it is showing it's age and the internal memory is an issue. So I would like to get a new one, that can last me at the very least two more years. My budget is around 600 dollars.
I live in Canada, so the situation with carriers is pretty bad. I'm currently on Telus (HSPA+) and would prefer to own my phone so that I can bypass this whole contract crap and negotiate better prices for my monthly bills.
Anyways, boiled down, this is what I'm looking for:
Compatible with Telus HSPA+ Network (Rogers is a plus)
Either a MicroSD slot or 32+ onboard storage
At least 24 hours of battery life on a single charge
Decent performance, don't really play games but would like a lag free interface
Healthy hacking community
Good build quality and durability. It should be able to take a fall
Flash camera. Camera quality is a negligible factor but I use the flashlight every day.
Out of all of the devices I've seen thus far, I'm leaning most towards the OneX+. But I've also looked at the Galaxy Nexus and liked it as well. There is also the SGS3 but I think that phone is really ugly and don't really like it. Choices... choices... can I hear a voice of reason here?
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man all this screams SGS3 and your better off getting it. everyone has said how much they love it. I would avoid htc though, theyve been changing for the worse...

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