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First off, I am an HTC fan. I am intensely brand loyal so please DO NOT begin with Hater/fanboy retorts. This is not why I created this thread. I actually have questions, that I hope some of you can answer/weigh in on objectively for me. Here goes.
I have been waiting to upgrade from my HD2 for almost a year now. The HD2 was my first HTC phone and I was hooked on its build quality and versatility. I had been really excited about the Sensation until i saw some of its specs and equipment. Of note, there are three key areas that are of vital importance to me: Ram, Storage and Battery.
I "assumed" that the Sensation, being a flagship phones, was going to blow the doors off anything in the dual core category. But after seeing these spec comparisons (http://firstain.com/index.php/2011/...roid-bionic-vs-lg-optimus-3d-thrill-4g-fight/) not only does the sensation not lead, but up against its primary competition, it trails the Galaxy and even its won Cousin, the EVO 3D, in these categories making it third. More importantly it comes with the smallest internal memory of ALL the phones being compared...
1. My first question and observation is this. If the EVO 3D has 1 gig RAM and 4gigs internal, why did they NOT do this for the Sensation? This could have been accomplished. Why was it not at least matched to make the phone better?
2. With regards to RAM an its significance see the attached videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrCWYZkQRIo. (Go to the 7:35 mark). Why would a flagship phone be so limited out of the gate? This could have been addressed to make the phone better correct?
3. In terms of memory and how fast the phone will process functions, this comes from a review posted here:
"Flaws in this whole situation include the fact that while the Galaxy S II pairs its 1.2GHz dual-core with 1GB of RAM, the HTC Sensation uses just 768MB. Samsung’s device has 16GB of memory packed in, while HTC makes due with just 1GB. There’s an 8GB microSD card in there, but you can add a bunch more memory to the GSII the same way if you want. Davies notes the truth: “[T]here’s just no way that even a fast microSDHC card can be as quick as NANDFlash connected directly to the logic board, and that leaves the Sensation at a speed disadvantage.”
Do you buy what the reviewer is saying as opinion or fact? If fact, then, again, why is this offering by HTC not just below the Samsung rival, but that of the EVO 3D with its 1 gig RAM and 4 gig memory? Just questions, no flames please.
Lastly, anyone can attest, that has used a 4.3 inch HTC screen, that a primary complaint is battery life. I dare say that HTC customers make up the majority of people who put the Current Widget app on the map. We are always looking for tips and tricks to squeeze more juice out of the battery. With the screen being the biggest hog, I was sure that HTC would address this with the Sensation. Again, to their credit they did, but again in comparison to the Galaxy, EVO 3d and almost every other battery in the links above, is next to last.
Techradar's HTC Sensation Battery Review:
"We've always been slightly confused by HTC phones when it comes to the battery life, as they seem to offer wildly different experiences depending on who is using them it seems.
The HTC Desire was fine for us when it came to lasting a day, but others found it would be dead by 7PM. The Desire HD was more universally panned for a poor battery, but still some chastised our verdict of it being unacceptable.
Well, it's going to happen again with the HTC Sensation, as the battery life, to us, seems woeful and not up to scratch. We're talking dead by 8PM with no push email, minimal Wi-Fi and about 30 mins of music and video at the most.
We've cycled it a few times to see if it can be improved, but the same things happens: it holds charge averagely well mostly, but then will get very warm and discharge at a rate of 10% per hour... which is a familiar scenario with the Desire HD.
We constantly kept the applications killed and the notifications to a minimum - but it seems only turning off the background synchronisation altogether helped the issue. And don't even think about hammering the camera in the middle of the day, or you'll be without a phone come the evening for sure.
That said, we're going to request another sample to test this out with, as it's probably the poorest experience we've had on an HTC device so far, so it's only fair we test to make sure it wasn't just a diff unit.
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pho...-943466/review?artc_pg=7
Again, I am brand loyal so I will be buying another HTC phone, but to be honest, these three areas were major concerns when I bought the hd2 and still are impacting me since I still use it. I will probably hold off on the Sensation because I don't want another "hd2/hd7" situation happening again. I want the best that htc can offer and I don't think they did that "IMO."I just want to know what you think the reasons are for the lack of details to the Sensation - in particular since the EVO 3D will not have theses problems. Thanks in advance.
PS - I know no phones is "perfect". This is being asked in light of technology today and expectations of HTC's manufacturing expertise.
simply put yes...
Of course they could have made it better. 1GB of RAM, 8GB of internal memory and a 1900 MAh battery like the Atrix. They could also have put a better screen in it (see Engadget's review: http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/27/htc-sensation-review/). Anyways, I think the battery life is acceptable, as it can last a full day on heavy use and I'm already used to charge every night.
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Of course they could have made it better. 1GB of RAM, 8GB of internal memory and a 1900 MAh battery like the Atrix. They could also have put a better screen in it (see Engadget's review: http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/27/htc-sensation-review/). Anyways, I think the battery life is acceptable, as it can last a full day on heavy use and I'm already used to charge every night.
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yeah, the thinking behind the features is a bit of a head scratcher to me. especially since I see the specs of the Evo 3D. maybe reaching the specs of the Atrix was not their intent with, but I the EVO clearly shows that they "could have" done a bit more for the Sensation. Its the "why not" that is thorn in my side. thanks.
It all comes down to sales and HTC will spec the phone to maximise their profit.
Some of us here at XDA will want the best of everything and be happy to pay for it.
But out in the rest of the world HTC have to be competative , and adding these upgrades will increase the handset price, and price for most people is a real factor in choosing a handset.
Between the SGS2 and the sensation there is very little differnce when you are using it, sure we can compare benchmarks and see a small difference but in the hand of the average consumer i think not. So HTC marketing team have estimated that this is the best set of features and price to maximise sales.
rumpleforeskin said:
It all comes down to sales and HTC will spec the phone to maximise their profit.
Some of us here at XDA will want the best of everything and be happy to pay for it.
But out in the rest of the world HTC have to be competative , and adding these upgrades will increase the handset price, and price for most people is a real factor in choosing a handset.
Between the SGS2 and the sensation there is very little differnce when you are using it, sure we can compare benchmarks and see a small difference but in the hand of the average consumer i think not. So HTC marketing team have estimated that this is the best set of features and price to maximise sales.
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First of all, thanks for the reply. I guess I have a hard time with this logic since I can clearly see that the EVO 3D is a step above the Sensation - and is coming to the market at the same time. Again, when I posed this question it stemmed from the fact that I have visual evidence of HTC having the capabilities to create a device that is on par or above the Galaxy.
I am just talking feature for feature. And in the three categories - that were important to me - the sensation was created below the bar. (Notice I DID NOT QUOTE BENCHMAARKS on purpose because I am willing to let the quadrant people make an app that "accurately" measures dual cores). The EVO and the Sensation will be priced relatively the same so I don't get the price factor making a difference. Hell, give me the specs of the EVO 3d and I will be the first in line on the 8th. That is all.
What I will say is...
When the Desire HD Came out... people warned against buying it simply because people considered it a "stop gap" in lue of upcomming dual cores.
After seeing the HTC Sensation I will NOT be purchasing it. This phone is a HUGE let down comming from the Desire HD.
I will wait till the IPhone 5 comes out and when HTC will release a TRUE Flagship phone.
BTW Dumb poll options.
Add : No will not purchase.
Most reviews are giving the phone lower then 8. Desire HD got 9-10/10.
My inspire 4G has a better screen then the Sensation.
I just don't get why they wouldn't put a gig of ram like they did on the EVO 3D. That's my main (and probably only) gripe. I guess they could have put more internal storage, but that's not a big deal. Engadget said in their testings that the battery life was better than what they got on the SGS II, so I guess it depends on who you ask.
Maedhros said:
What I will say is...
When the Desire HD Came out... people warned against buying it simply because people considered it a "stop gap" in lue of upcomming dual cores.
After seeing the HTC Sensation I will NOT be purchasing it. This phone is a HUGE let down comming from the Desire HD.
I will wait till the IPhone 5 comes out and when HTC will release a TRUE Flagship phone.
BTW Dumb poll options.
Add : No will not purchase.
Most reviews are giving the phone lower then 8. Desire HD got 9-10/10.
My inspire 4G has a better screen then the Sensation.
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I am actually more dumbfounded than anything. I too was awaiting the arrival of this super phone but really am clueless about this phone in light of the EVO 3D's specs. I will wait as well. However, knowing HTC, they will release the proper sensation equivalent on at&t as a makeup for that crappy Inspire. Grrrrrrrr.
BTW, thanks for your "eloquent" poll suggestion. I tried to edit the post but did not see the option.
aNYthing24 said:
I just don't get why they wouldn't put a gig of ram like they did on the EVO 3D. That's my main (and probably only) gripe. I guess they could have put more internal storage, but that's not a big deal. Engadget said in their testings that the battery life was better than what they got on the SGS II, so I guess it depends on who you ask.
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“[T]here’s just no way that even a fast microSDHC card can be as quick as NANDFlash connected directly to the logic board, and that leaves the Sensation at a speed disadvantage.”
According to this, more internal memory would be extremely beneficial speed wise. For the simple fact that its dubbed the "flag ship" you would think they would add internal memory as a basic premium. Guess not.
The evo 3d only has more ram cause of the actual 3d recording and pictures ability. If the evo 3d has 4 gig rom then most likely it has only 1 gig accessible to the user. Cause the system and the nand need memory space as well.
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steve austin said:
I am actually more dumbfounded than anything. I too was awaiting the arrival of this super phone but really am clueless about this phone in light of the EVO 3D's specs. I will wait as well. However, knowing HTC, they will release the proper sensation equivalent on at&t as a makeup for that crappy Inspire. Grrrrrrrr.
BTW, thanks for your "eloquent" poll suggestion. I tried to edit the post but did not see the option.
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Hm.. not sure how to edit polls sorry!
I agree... I dont think the Sensation is a true upgrade from the Desire HD.... For 1, the SLCD is inferior to the One on the Inspire 4G. Secondly Aluminum UniBody what??? I havent held the phone so I cant give an accurate representation however when I imagine Uni Body I immagine...Desire HD and HTC Legend! To me the Sensation looks like its not a Unibody simply because half of it comes off I cant say if any1 else will agree with me, but people who have used the phone say that it does no have the same sturdy feel as the Desire HD.
It seems to me as if HTC took what was good with the Desire HD and just doubled it. And sure that is a good formual... but when all of your competiion is doubling + improving it... doubling alone is not enough.
ATM even if u have the original Desire I would say skip on the HTC Sensation.
**Just so its clear I am a HTC Fanboy, but srsly... HTC has been doing this sort of stuff from the Windows Mobile Days... its getting really ridicules. Don't want to see this happening on Android.
Edit: For those who dont know what I mean.. .In Win Mobil days with HTC u generally brought phones every 2 Generations... simply because between generations there was not a very big difference between phones.
I feel HTC may again start doing this with Android... and it is very disappointing!
steve austin said:
However, knowing HTC, they will release the proper sensation equivalent on at&t as a makeup for that crappy Inspire. Grrrrrrrr.
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Haha, they basically are. It's called the HTC Holiday. The only difference I've seen in the specs is that it has a 4.5" screen and 1 GB of RAM. I'd link an article, but I don't have enough posts.
aNYthing24 said:
Haha, they basically are. It's called the HTC Holiday. The only difference I've seen in the specs is that it has a 4.5" screen and 1 GB of RAM. I'd link an article, but I don't have enough posts.
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Cheekie bastids!
Grrrrrrrrr!
The one thing I have to add is that RAM is relatively power hungry, so this may have been a factor after some poor battery performances in HTC phones recently.
After using this phone for a week, I can safely say It's not had any performance problems in my usage (web, gaming, video streaming, music playing, online purchases through apps, SIP and voice calls, 2g to WiFi connectivity). The only problem of note so far is that the music widget crashes Sense now and again, but having said that, it did with my HD2 on occasion too.
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Bottom line is that yes they could have made it better, but like others have said it's all down to sales.
While the world is trying to grab the fastest dual core phones which are at around 1.2ghz at the moment, don't think for a minute that the technology doesn't exist to make a 2.0ghz phone with 2gig of ram and even more internal storage with an even fatter battery, because not only does it exist but they are probably already testing it for future phones.
As consumers, we will get what we are given and have very little input as to what that will be, we can moan and moan at HTC or other companies but at the end of the day, it's always down to them.
The sensation will be a great phone i have no doubt but to move from the Desire HD for instance would be a mistake, the Evo 3d looks to be the better HTC phone on paper and will probably win overall when compared to the sensation.
There will be a tonne of people who will see this as the latest and greatest and will make HTC a load of cash so it's a win for HTC and a loss for us (the consumer) again.
Just hope that the dev's on XDA and other places can do their magic and make these phones work the way they were ment to, not how the likes of HTC think they should be, which imho is barely acceptable.
From what I have read, it looks like the Sensation has only the qHD upgraded from DHD, I am waiting for more deep reviews for the camera.
Speaker and screen sunlight performances are the same!
If only we could get a SGS2 with Sense 3.0...
i dont think ram is a big problem on this phone ...
i often get 170 mb free ram after kill all apps with taskmanager ...
i think when we need it we can get it .... especially if we want the most free ram we can get when we want to play games and stuff...
i dont think any app uses more than that at the moment
dladz said:
Bottom line is that yes they could have made it better, but like others have said it's all down to sales.
While the world is trying to grab the fastest dual core phones which are at around 1.2ghz at the moment, don't think for a minute that the technology doesn't exist to make a 2.0ghz phone with 2gig of ram and even more internal storage with an even fatter battery, because not only does it exist but they are probably already testing it for future phones.
As consumers, we will get what we are given and have very little input as to what that will be, we can moan and moan at HTC or other companies but at the end of the day, it's always down to them.
The sensation will be a great phone i have no doubt but to move from the Desire HD for instance would be a mistake, the Evo 3d looks to be the better HTC phone on paper and will probably win overall when compared to the sensation.
There will be a tonne of people who will see this as the latest and greatest and will make HTC a load of cash so it's a win for HTC and a loss for us (the consumer) again.
Just hope that the dev's on XDA and other places can do their magic and make these phones work the way they were ment to, not how the likes of HTC think they should be, which imho is barely acceptable.
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Samsung Galaxy S II breaks 1m sales record in Korea
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung...essor-in-1h-2011-plus-4g-galaxy-tab-20110530/
The article above clearly shows that you can make a quality product, "push" the envelop on current current technology, get great reviews, break sales records AND sell it a price higher than the Sensation. The technology is there and some company's are using it now.
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The one thing I have to add is that RAM is relatively power hungry, so this may have been a factor after some poor battery performances in HTC phones recently.
After using this phone for a week, I can safely say It's not had any performance problems in my usage (web, gaming, video streaming, music playing, online purchases through apps, SIP and voice calls, 2g to WiFi connectivity). The only problem of note so far is that the music widget crashes Sense now and again, but having said that, it did with my HD2 on occasion too.
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How many hours can you go performing theses functions before you have to charge up again?
I really can't beloved the amount of people who are slagging off the IS because it can't be unlocked yet.
DON'T BUY A PHONE EXPECTING THE DEV SCENE TO BE HUGE
The IS is a great phone, and if custom ROM's are the be all and end all for you then its your own fault for not doing research before buying it. The are far, far to many people round here with an expectation that fantastic ROM's and exploits just appear out of thin air, the people that produce them work very hard, and don't owe you anything.
Why don't ppl do some research and try and help, rather than just twiddling your thumbs and moaning until it happens?
Back on topic, I haven't used the Sensation so I can't compare them both, but it is unlikely to be a huge seller so you probably wont find a huge amount of work for it, even if it is unlocked. I love the IS and have no complaints about the hardware at all, but I must admit the sensation is sexy and they do run similar software.
The only thing I would say is if you want durability with the IS, get a case. The phone is a little fragile against drops without one
So Guys Help me out here
I am stuck between Incredible S and Sensation cant decide which one should i buy, i am switching from Samsung Omnia and want to try Android, phone should be durable good camera good battery and should be fast enough to play games on it, i really like the customization on HTC but camera is good on Sensation
Malik828 said:
I really can't beloved the amount of people who are slagging off the IS because it can't be unlocked yet.
DON'T BUY A PHONE EXPECTING THE DEV SCENE TO BE HUGE
The IS is a great phone, and if custom ROM's are the be all and end all for you then its your own fault for not doing research before buying it. The are far, far to many people round here with an expectation that fantastic ROM's and exploits just appear out of thin air, the people that produce them work very hard, and don't owe you anything.
Why don't ppl do some research and try and help, rather than just twiddling your thumbs and moaning until it happens?
Back on topic, I haven't used the Sensation so I can't compare them both, but it is unlikely to be a huge seller so you probably wont find a huge amount of work for it, even if it is unlocked. I love the IS and have no complaints about the hardware at all, but I must admit the sensation is sexy and they do run similar software.
The only thing I would say is if you want durability with the IS, get a case. The phone is a little fragile against drops without one
So Guys Help me out here
I am stuck between Incredible S and Sensation cant decide which one should i buy, i am switching from Samsung Omnia and want to try Android, phone should be durable good camera good battery and should be fast enough to play games on it, i really like the customization on HTC but camera is good on Sensation
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I say get the sensation! It has dual core and qhd. I am also upgrading from a htc touch HD. I was trying to decide between the desire s and the sensation and I figured if I am going to upgrade I might as well go with a dual core. I t is the future. So, I have made up my mind. I am getting the sensation end of the month or next month when the sim free unbranded handsets come out.
Malik828 said:
I really can't beloved the amount of people who are slagging off the IS because it can't be unlocked yet.
DON'T BUY A PHONE EXPECTING THE DEV SCENE TO BE HUGE
The IS is a great phone, and if custom ROM's are the be all and end all for you then its your own fault for not doing research before buying it. The are far, far to many people round here with an expectation that fantastic ROM's and exploits just appear out of thin air, the people that produce them work very hard, and don't owe you anything.
Why don't ppl do some research and try and help, rather than just twiddling your thumbs and moaning until it happens?
Back on topic, I haven't used the Sensation so I can't compare them both, but it is unlikely to be a huge seller so you probably wont find a huge amount of work for it, even if it is unlocked. I love the IS and have no complaints about the hardware at all, but I must admit the sensation is sexy and they do run similar software.
The only thing I would say is if you want durability with the IS, get a case. The phone is a little fragile against drops without one
So Guys Help me out here
I am stuck between Incredible S and Sensation cant decide which one should i buy, i am switching from Samsung Omnia and want to try Android, phone should be durable good camera good battery and should be fast enough to play games on it, i really like the customization on HTC but camera is good on Sensation
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Unlikely to be a huge seller? It's HTC's flagship phone, it'll be the best selling HTC phone of this quarter, I'd expect.
redbullcat said:
Unlikely to be a huge seller? It's HTC's flagship phone, it'll be the best selling HTC phone of this quarter, I'd expect.
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Yes maybe you are right it is HTC flagship phone but before the sensation what was HTC flagship phone you guessed right it was the Incredible S so soon sensation is going to be long forgotten for the sole reason that EVO 3d is arriving sooner rather than later it only depends which is going to be a huge seller which is adopted by the huge dev community as it was due to devs that HTC had to back track on the decision of locking the bootloader
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If you buy any piece of technology and expect it to be top of the line for long your not going to get far.
Every network is slightly different and the phones appeal differently. I will be going from my HD2 to the Sensation and I will love every minute of it until the next big one comes along that tickles my fancy 1 - 2 years down the road.
Find the phone that YOU want, that makes YOU grin and eagerly anticipate the release of and get it, enjoy it and use it until the next device comes along.
I personally do not want a 3d camera, hate the technology so the EVO 3d does not appeal to me. The Incredible S was incredible, and the Sensation will be for a short time until the next greatest thing comes along.
The community moves fast. People with the phones keep working and developting for them. The OS on my HD2 was dead before the phone released, yet there is still a good community supporting the device and I am not sorry I chose the phone at all.
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Yes maybe you are right it is HTC flagship phone but before the sensation what was HTC flagship phone you guessed right it was the Incredible S so soon sensation is going to be long forgotten for the sole reason that EVO 3d is arriving sooner rather than later it only depends which is going to be a huge seller which is adopted by the huge dev community as it was due to devs that HTC had to back track on the decision of locking the bootloader
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Well the sensation is coming out all over the world while the evo 3d is just coming out for sprint right now. The GSM version hasn't even been officially announced yet
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aim1126 said:
Well the sensation is coming out all over the world while the evo 3d is just coming out for sprint right now. The GSM version hasn't even been officially announced yet
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So ok you are right agree with you that it is going to be only for Sprint but for me iPhone 5 is what making me wait there are lots lots rumors it going to launch in September with ios 5 so that is going to be the benchmark for all phones Samsung galaxy s2 is not a bad phone either so it is very hard for me to choose as I do not want regrets after choosing one beast of a phone and another beast arrives around the corner ios 5 going to have notification and widgets so it could be the complete phone that awaits but can not wait too anxious to make the plunge it is going to be sensation or iPhone 5 if only it comes with larger display do not care for resolution
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If you buy any piece of technology and expect it to be top of the line for long your not going to get far.
Every network is slightly different and the phones appeal differently. I will be going from my HD2 to the Sensation and I will love every minute of it until the next big one comes along that tickles my fancy 1 - 2 years down the road.
Find the phone that YOU want, that makes YOU grin and eagerly anticipate the release of and get it, enjoy it and use it until the next device comes along.
I personally do not want a 3d camera, hate the technology so the EVO 3d does not appeal to me. The Incredible S was incredible, and the Sensation will be for a short time until the next greatest thing comes along.
The community moves fast. People with the phones keep working and developting for them. The OS on my HD2 was dead before the phone released, yet there is still a good community supporting the device and I am not sorry I chose the phone at all.
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I agree with you totally.
On a side note, You dont have to want the 3D. The phone's specs are better than the sensation and the 3D is just an added bonus IMO although im not sure how many ppl would be happy to carry a 170g phone in their pocket.
I wish they would have announced a GSM version though so the non US people would also have the option to choose between the sensation and the EVO
mazinya said:
I agree with you totally.
On a side note, You dont have to want the 3D. The phone's specs are better than the sensation and the 3D is just an added bonus IMO although im not sure how many ppl would be happy to carry a 170g phone in their pocket.
I wish they would have announced a GSM version though so the non US people would also have the option to choose between the sensation and the EVO
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Which EVO 3D specs are better than the Sensation? According to this they are very similar, although the EVO only has a 5MP camera.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_3d-3901.php
samnada said:
Which EVO 3D specs are better than the Sensation? According to this they are very similar, although the EVO only has a 5MP camera.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_3d-3901.php
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Also 1 GB RAM vs 768 of the sensation and lets not forget the 1730 mAh battery the EVO has which is something im sure many would have liked the sensation to have also. Like i said, i think its just its weight and thickness might be an issue to some
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Also 1 GB RAM vs 768 of the sensation and lets not forget the 1730 mAh battery the EVO has which is something im sure many would have liked the sensation to have also. Like i said, i think its just its weight and thickness might be an issue to some
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More RAM is better if you need more RAM. I haven't seen anyone so far say they've run out of RAM on the Sensation. 1GB is obviously more than 768Mb, but not so sure it's "better". Let's see what the EVO battery life is in use. It may need a larger, and as you say heavier, battery for the same run time. Heavier and thicker isn't better. For me 3D is nothing but a gimmick. I don't need even more viewing angle issues than the Sensation's LCD has. But we each have our own preferences.
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More RAM is better if you need more RAM. I haven't seen anyone so far say they've run out of RAM on the Sensation. 1GB is obviously more than 768Mb, but not so sure it's "better". Let's see what the EVO battery life is in use. It may need a larger, and as you say heavier, battery for the same run time. Heavier and thicker isn't better. For me 3D is nothing but a gimmick. I don't need even more viewing angle issues than the Sensation's LCD has. But we each have our own preferences.
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Im not sure, but perhaps more RAM could help with things moving more smoothly?
I also think the 3D is a gimmick, just saying that on paper it seems like the EVO has slightly better specs, thats all.
So I currently have a T-Mobile MyTouch 4G that I really like, I have Cyanogen Mod 7.0.3 running on it, and I get great battery life. I have some dust under the glass, I called and they said that they would happily exchange it, but that they don't have the MyTouch 4G and that they will "upgrade" me to the Samsung Galaxy S2 Looking at the forums it doesn't seem like there is much development for these phones. Should I tell Them that I want a different phone? or are there custom ROMS that I can run on the Galaxy S2 I really like the 16 or so hours of battery life I currently get, plus how fast the phone is.
Regardless, you prove my point that sensationalist (no pun intended) tech blogs stress the qualitative, not the factual. These blogs are composed of a bunch of guys who get together and tell you what they "feel" about a certain device, replete with brand loyalty bias and unrepresentative 'tests', which is why it is precisely the source of the rubbish "SAMOLED >>> LCD" claims in the first place.
Also, each device can implement the same screen 'technology' differently. The HD2 has a better screen than the G2 in terms of color accuracy (and certainly more than the Galaxy S 1's blue tint, pixelation/blur/colorwarping) and even outdoor visibility. And it wasn't even a SUPER lcd. The Sensation probably has a different screen
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2 good points (compared to desire). Visible in landscape mode in polarized sunglasses, good visibility outside. The rest of it is worse than desire slcd. Not sure about incredible s, but hope info helps you.
can someone tell me if incredible s also suffers from wifi signal loss much like the sensation? im seriously thinking of getting IS instead of sensation due to death grip issue... dual core phones can wait for now. thanks.
Hey guys,
I really want to upgrade my phone. Currently I have a Desire S but the screen is far to small for my needs :/
So i want to upgrade. There are 3 phones were i'm interested in: the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus and the normal Sensation.
I really like the speed of the S2 and the hardware home button, but the resolution is incredible low on this device Against that there is the Nexus, its a bit slower from what i've heard but has a beautiful screen in my opinion. Did any of you guys know if the decrease in speed is noticeable in daily use? I really like that it is also supported directly from Google and get the updates asap.
There are also the Sensation because i like the aluminium case from HTC.
I prefer the Nexus and the S2 a bit over the Sensation. So which phone you recommend for me?
- Cheers Jahai
Jahai said:
Hey guys,
I really want to upgrade my phone. Currently I have a Desire S but the screen is far to small for my needs :/
So i want to upgrade. There are 3 phones were i'm interested in: the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus and the normal Sensation.
I really like the speed of the S2 and the hardware home button, but the resolution is incredible low on this device Against that there is the Nexus, its a bit slower from what i've heard but has a beautiful screen in my opinion. Did any of you guys know if the decrease in speed is noticeable in daily use? I really like that it is also supported directly from Google and get the updates asap.
There are also the Sensation because i like the aluminium case from HTC.
I prefer the Nexus and the S2 a bit over the Sensation. So which phone you recommend for me?
- Cheers Jahai
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I'm sorry to tell you, but I think you are at the wrong place. Everyone here likes his desire s.
If you need a big screen, try galaxy note or use pc
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Jahai said:
Hey guys,
I really want to upgrade my phone. Currently I have a Desire S but the screen is far to small for my needs :/
So i want to upgrade. There are 3 phones were i'm interested in: the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus and the normal Sensation.
I really like the speed of the S2 and the hardware home button, but the resolution is incredible low on this device Against that there is the Nexus, its a bit slower from what i've heard but has a beautiful screen in my opinion. Did any of you guys know if the decrease in speed is noticeable in daily use? I really like that it is also supported directly from Google and get the updates asap.
There are also the Sensation because i like the aluminium case from HTC.
I prefer the Nexus and the S2 a bit over the Sensation. So which phone you recommend for me?
- Cheers Jahai
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I would advise you to wait for the Mobile World Congress before upgrading... you'll have many more options within a couple of months...
But if you still want to upgrade now, here's my input :
1. Sensation : ? Why would you want to consider that? It's an average phone, and from whatever time i've spent on it on my friend's phone, it's nothing to write hone about. Does anyone even remember the original Sensation anymore (Especially after the XL and the XE?)
2. The SGS2 is a very very fast phone, with great hardware, but i have two issues with it : The screen has a bluish tinge to it, and colour reproduction is inaccurate across the spectrum. Secondly, it looks like a plastic business card holder
3. The Galaxy Nexus is a lovely looking device, the form factor is very attractive. In my discussions with zeekiz (who bricked his DS and migrated to the GN) he says he loves the phone and it's not slow or anything like you mentioned. Plus, you'll be the first person to get the next Android version update (Jellybean). Thirdly, it always makes sense to go for the newer device, both for the gains in hardware, as well as company support that comes more easily and lasts longer for newer (especially) flagship phones.
Best of luck choosing your next device!!
Jahai said:
Hey guys,
I really want to upgrade my phone. Currently I have a Desire S but the screen is far to small for my needs :/
So i want to upgrade. There are 3 phones were i'm interested in: the Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus and the normal Sensation.
I really like the speed of the S2 and the hardware home button, but the resolution is incredible low on this device Against that there is the Nexus, its a bit slower from what i've heard but has a beautiful screen in my opinion. Did any of you guys know if the decrease in speed is noticeable in daily use? I really like that it is also supported directly from Google and get the updates asap.
There are also the Sensation because i like the aluminium case from HTC.
I prefer the Nexus and the S2 a bit over the Sensation. So which phone you recommend for me?
- Cheers Jahai
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Just a small note here, with my experiance the 3.7' of the Desire S is the largest screen size for a mobile that I can -almost- fully use with one hand, whenever you go beyond that, you may have to get used to work with both hands, and that made me drop the sensation in favor of my DS
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I came from a HTC Sensation to the Desire S as i found the Sensation too big. Surprisingly i have found the Desire S not much slower.
I would also wait for the MWC...but if you can't wait, IMHO Sensation is a good device especially after it's rooted and equipped with the custom ICS based roms made for the XE version (with CPU at 1.5 Ghz)...i think capy's work.
Anyway you have a lot of roms to try even with ICS out there.
Regarding the SGSII it's ok if you want a plastic phone....
Galaxy Nexus has a good screen and it's not slow but i think it's a little big, you will clearly need 2 hands if you want to use it properly.
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Regarding the SGSII it's ok if you want a plastic phone....
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No-go for me... Plastic toy feeling
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No-go for me... Plastic toy feeling
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Right on! Exactly my thoughts about the SGS2. It feels like a business card holder!
Wait for mwc and HTC edge if price isn't the big deal
Otherwise, i personaly would buy a sensation, the gs2 is sure a nice device, but like mentioned above the screen isn't the best and the plastic body feels weird.
The galaxy nexus isn't a device for me, there are 2 dealbreakers at my opinion, even if the resolution is better than at the gs2 the grapic chip is wors and there is no sd slot.
The update cycle is sure a point and the nfc also, but for my opinion it's a pure developer phone.
The sensation is from hardware almost the same like the sensation xe and every rom can be exchanged between those 2 devices, there is no nfc, for sure, but the gs2 also haven't got one, so this isn't a point of interest for you i think.
Also even if all of them have them same frequenzies the sensation runs at a stock speed of 1.5 ghz with an xe rom, so it got the highest frequency of those phones.
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yeah i'd wait for MWC but if not galaxy nexus for all the reasons above. It is definitely not a slow phone, especially since google probably built ICS for the nexus. The only thing i hate about the nexus phones is the fact that they're always released at awkward times. By awkward, i mean right before all the new hardware comes out. My brother has an S2 and it does have a horrible plasticky feeling. While the galaxy nexus is the same, it seems to hide it better. The white S2 is even worse! It has no grip on the back which makes it absolutely horrible to hold, not to mention a liability too.
It's been a while since I did a megga-post.....
From what I'm hearing about HTC's line-up for MWC, I hope they also announce a sensible phone. At the moment I really don't know what I'll get, as the current rumours all seem to have several problems for me.
1. Screens too big.
I have a non-upgradable 2.5" thumb. I've spoken to my network provider but they wont give me a larger one. I do not want to have to change grip or use two hands to turn screen on/off. The DS screen size is perfect. It is fine watching films on Netflix.
2. Quad core. Really?
Does anyone remember the Coca-Cola/Sprite stunt yo-yo's from the eighties? (Bear with me here, work is a little slow today and I feel a rant coming on.) They were a massive craze when I was at school. They came in two versions. "Standard" and "Pro". The Pro ones cost nearly twice as much. Why was that? It was because the Pro version had "Pro" written on the side. That was it. They were the same size and weight as the standard version. But every kid in my class practically sold a kidney to get the pro version, because to show up in the playground with the standard version stood you out for ridicule, and everyone was certain the Pro version could do better stunts. What is quad core going to give us? How often is it going to be running on more than 2 cores? Can it do better stunts? My single core phone can render web pages quickly, run any game I've asked it to, record 720p video at 30fps, and has a smooth and lag free UI. It just doesn't have "Pro" written all over it. That word seems to brain-wash kids into doling out dosh! Kids love the idea of being "Pro". Look at what every premium version of any app on the Android Marketplace is called.
3. Skinny form-factors
Leading to phones being bendy and having a non-removable battery. I like my solid aluminium DS. I've held the SGS2. It feels like a kinder surpise egg. Squeeze it too hard and I worry it'd break. Plus if we are having to have a (pro) Quad Core phone don't we need a bigger battery? Did you know the HTC Edge has a fifth core (super pro) that is a very low power companion core for when the phone is off in your pocket? Turn your phone on (without dropping it changing your grip to reach the button) and expect laptop battery life from the 40nm chip. Will it come with a Pro Charger?
4. No SD Card slot.
OK most of the phones with these also claim built-in 32GB storage which is fine for capacity, but what if I brick my phone larking about on XDA? What if it just packs in? Currently all my music/photos/documents would simply be removed and put into another phone. If it's built-in and your phone wont boot.....Are the cloud-storage sites encouraging phone manufacturers to do this?
5. Build Quality.
HTC seem to have really dropped the ball with this one. They used to be fantastic. However I know 3 people who have bought the DS since September (on my recommendation) and all of them have been back for repair at least once. One of them died for the second time two nights ago with the dreaded eMMC chip failure again! WTF? Did they replace the faulty board with another one prone with the same weakness? She also waited 6 weeks to get that phone back the first time. I feel guilty now. Also check Amazon for the reviews of the DS. Since September it's started getting a load of 1 star reviews and they all read the same. It seems I was lucky in buying my DS on it's release, before it seems HTC moved production to the local wine bar/crack house. There is no way I'm spending £450 on something I'm not confident will last a year or will take me 6 weeks to get repaired.
If HTC...no if ANYONE announce a phone that has: A screen under 4", solid build, removable battery, SD card slot, improved camera optics, decent amount of RAM, reasonable battery life and justifiable processing power, then I'll get my wallet out. Or if it comes with a free Pro Yo-Yo. They do better stunts.
Basically I want a DS with a nicer camera and bigger battery. And a sticker that says "Pro" on it.
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It's been a while since I did a megga-post.....
(Bear with me here, work is a little slow today and I feel a rant coming on.)
Basically I want a DS with a nicer camera and bigger battery. And a sticker that says "Pro" on it.
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Brilliant!
Love the rant (and i thought i was the only one with this illness)
I agree on mostly everything you've said above... especially HTC screwing up on its strengths... build quality, sub-par components, and progressively bloat-ier (i know that's not a word) Sense... Though i'd still buy an HTC instead of a Samsung, all things set aside, they do better stunts!!
Yeah. Your words seem to come right from my mind.
a desire s pro would be really cool
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If i had the choice, i'd choose the sensation in a heartbeat.
First, it has the beat build IMO. The SGS 2 is too plasticky and since it's far too thin, it feels weird in my hand. The galaxy nexus is waaaaaay to big. The sensation is perfect
Second, HTC Sense. It is just too good and i can't get a device that has no chance of getting Sense. Besides, touchwiz sucks and the stock experience on the nexus can be acieved through an AOSP ROM.
That said, the super amoled screen is quiet good ad a plus point of both sammys.
That said, i recommend you wait till MWC. Something awesome will surely come up. There is a thread, full of leaks on the two upcoming htc devices, the One X and the One S.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1476788
it has to be the htc amaze, i think its a great phone, in addition to that htc has quality in its build, as in our desire s the aluminum feel is way better than the plastic in most samsungs
This is offtopic i know but felt like discussing about HTC. Lately HTC been doing a lot of stupid things and making bad decisions imo anyways. Non-removable battery, taking away external sdcard support(some phones) opting for thinner phones over better battery life, and now this.. http://androidandme.com/2012/04/smartphones-2/htc-is-moving-away-from-qwerty-keyboard-phones/
My first phone was the OG T-mobile G1 and i still consider it one of the best phones ever made not just because it was a solid phone that HTC built and T-mobile released but because XDA made it into so much more of a useful phone then it could ever have been without devs. There will always be room for Keyboard phones, I was really really hoping/begging HTC would make the G3 with some killer specs and it's awesome keyboard combo, but it looks like HTC wants nothing to do with it anymore.
Really HTC if they wanna impress us they need to quit making phones that have horrible battery life, thinner is not gonna be better. Hell were talking a difference of maybe 1 or 2 less mm in a phone when all we care about is a better battery life, quit giving us 1500-1800mah batteries and dish out some 2500-3000+ battery that will last at least throughout the day or two.
HTC "Thin is not in B**** i like my girls with a little bit of meat on their bones lol
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I had the same reaction. HTC has always made the best qwerty phones, my vision is a great phone and my Rhodium is still one of the best phones ever released.
This is almost as bad at AT&T mangling the one X by reducing the number of cores and the onboard memory just to shove LTE on board. LTE is nice but personally 90% of my data usage is on wifi and the rest is just email and light browsing when I travel so its not a real selling point for me.
Give me a phone that is buttery smooth and last a day or more, if you can also throw a keyboard on there then I'll take two.
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I remember my first HTC phone, it was the HTC HD2 which had android on it. I spent $350 US for it. It stopped working on me 1 month after the 1year warranty expired. The touch screen stopped working because they placed the ribbon cable under the "end" button. Apparently is a common issue with the phone.
I swore never to buy another HTC phone again.
Removing the sd card and put in an non exchangeable battery...Iphone much?
Thats one of the reason Im using android. My G2X can last me all day. With the 1550MAh battery I had to charge twice but with my 3500Mah battery from 9am to 12am on mid usage i would have 20% left
Anyway, I don't care what HTC does anymore.
I too am a hard keyboard lover. My first experience with HTC was probably the vougue. Although it had no keyboard I fell in love with the little bit of sense that was incorporated on it. Then I went to touch pro and touch pro2. I absolutely loved the keyboards. From then i went to EVO 4G and now evo3d. Although I like the keyboards I think HTC is still a solid phone and can do without the keyboard if I have to.
The new EVO LTE coming to Sprint once again has no keyboard but they are making it with a removable battery and micro SD card acceptable. Don't think the gsm models are the same. I am disappointed that they didn't leave the quad core in it but it is what it is
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I think we just need a big breakthrough with battery technology.
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I think we just need a big breakthrough with battery technology.
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I'm sorry zoppp but that is like saying "we just need a cure for cancer, somebody get to work."
The problem with technology is that yesterdays big breakthrough is today's outdated technology. Mobile phones have become more personal than the personal computer so there will never be a one size fits all solution. If there were we would all be stuck with iOS.
I like my Samsung focus, its slim, has a nice screen, it's light and the battery last all day. Its also made of cheap, creaky plastic that I despise at the same time.
Personally I think a little more heft is ok when the phone has a 'quality' feel to it. I also think its ok when I get a nice physical keyboard. If the phone weighed a little more but lasted 2 days that would be phenomenal too, it just can't weigh 5 lbs if it wants to be in my pocket...
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I'm curious what the opinions of those who actually own the One S are of the SGS3 (T-Mobile version).
Would you rather have the SGS3 if you had the choice? One S better?
I'm about to upgrade and I'm torn between waiting for the S3 or just getting the One S today..
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I'm rather curious myself honestly ^^
I'm currently on a vibrant, but I have an upgrade coming in about another week and am
trying to determine what I ought to go with. I look forward to seeing what people's opinions are ^^
Personal preference is stick with one s 4.8inch display is way too big
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I love the one s . But have been having issues with my connection even after the update . Also for me the battery goes quickly.
I also prefer to have a removable battery and ad card. This is my 2nd one s, and when I tried to get my pictures and music from dropbox it wasn't successful.
Do love the build quality and size though. So if you don't mind the 4.8 in s3 definitely get that.
I think ill be getting one myself
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As much as I love the one s I would go with the gs3 I miss an sdcard slot I'm always full on this phone and the screen will be nicer
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One S.
I came from a Vibrant as well. Samsung burnt me a little with the GPS on the Vibrant so I decided to try an HTC this time.
As far as GPS, the One S is rock solid. It has never taken more then about 10 seconds to lock and it stays locked.
I definitely prefer Sense over TouchWiz.
The lack of expandable SD and non-removable battery are not issues for me personally.
And lastly the GS III is just a little big for my tastes. One S is the perfect size for me. The GS III looks nice enough, just not for me this time around.
I'm very happy with my purchase.
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I had a Galaxy Nexus (4.68" display?) so 4.8 shouldn't be bad. I thought the Galaxy Nexus felt AMAZING in hand.
I was looking at specs for the international GS3 and they pretty much matched up with the One S so I was just going to go with the One S but then I realized, duh, the US version is "much better" then the international.
The way I saw it, at least, is the GS3 pretty much has everything comparable to the One S (camera was going to be the selling point for me) but doubles the RAM, slightly larger screen, removable battery and SDcard slot.
If I'm going to pay the same price, on paper the GS3 is a better choice to make.
I got the one s after the one x and screen was awful. U get used after a week but hurts ur eyes if u read articles on ur phone. Then i got the sgsIII and screen is much better than the one s. Also everything else is better. The camera of the one s though is better at taking pics in low light. keep in mind that with the one s u have to deal with bootloader unlock and there is no s off as well. so long story short samsung is much more dev friendly. I forgot to mention that the tmobile sgs4 will have a 2gb ram
S3 : removable battery, sdcard slot, NFC, 720p Screen, 2GB ram,
1S: better design, high quality material
==> I'm using one s now but i'll get the S3 next week. give the 1s for my bro
im new to gsm side of life so today im getting one S free then getting S3 21st and keeping one S or dropping it if tmo has 14day return policy like sprint.
I hesitate to post this. I don't want to bad mouth the One S. It is an unbelievable phone. However I'm having data reception issues. I am definately in a low signal area. Looks like this phone has issues with a low signal. The signal meter just jumps around crazily form no service to two bars.
This is my third in a month. 2nd one got the update and in my opinion it made it worse. and I thought I noticed a slight change in battery life for the worse, but I can't be sure.
I've learned that stressing on the signal meter, speedtest or other things is pointless. It's all about day to day performance. But the internet on the One S is consisitently an issue for me. First page loads fast usually but then long waits or can't find page/signal errors. Again, I have reception issues in my area here in N Texas.
Out of all the problems I had w/ the G2X this wasn't one. Nor on my Sensation or Evo.
But if you have a strong signal.....I can definately recommend this phone.Out and about it seems quicker.
It is the fastest Android I've had. Really fast performance.
Importantly the battery life is exponentially better. I've sold this already to a fellow xda-er. So I've reset it to stock and am using it minimally (mostly so I don't risk dropping it or damaging it before I send it out). I am currently at about 44 hours without charging it. It is at 75% right now! No lie! I've barely used it admittedly. But I could go through literally 3 batteries a day on some of my G2x's.
I am 100% getting the S3, but am not 100% happy about it. I don't like the size, slickness, I've had problems with Samsungs lack of Customer Service,and it looks like there may be a few bugs (to be expected?).
It has many plusses and I'm sure I'll like it but I like the form factor of the One s and I don't think the S3 will have as good a battery life.
But the data issue is a deal breaker for me w/ my bad area.