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HI all, Ive just been given an old XDA 2 (II). It seems to work ok.
What is the latest version of Windows that this can run and is there a tutorial on how to install it
Before I invest any time or money could somebody give me a pointer as to if I could run tom tom with this?
If so what do i need?
I have used a nokia 6680 with a bluetooth receiver running tomtom and this worked fine. I am assuming the xda runs a different version.
If anybody could tell me where to start i would be very grateful.
Many Thanks
Richie
Check if you have an XDA II, aka Himalya or XDA IIi ala Alpine
Start - Settings - Device Info - Identity
PH10B - Himalaya
PH10C - Alpine
If it's a Himalaya you can upgrade it to WM6.1 or WM6.5. If an Alpine then you are stuck on WM2003.
As for SatNav TomTom 6.5 does install on a WM6.5 Himalaya, just, but i have been unable to test it due to not having a bluetooth GPS.
Thanks so much for a quick reply
Its PH10B so Himalaya
It seems to be windows 4.20.0 so quite far behind I'm guessing
Excellent
I assume I need to be connected to my PC to upgrade, the cradle/usb lead that came with it is not being recognised in XP on my machine.
Is there some drivers I need to download?
Have you installed Active Sync? Very easy to download from Microsoft.
For an updated ROM check the Himalaya section of this forum, there are many to choose from.
I have a Himalaya but it is purely for test purposes, my primary PPC is a Trinity.
Thanks, Active Sync installd, so simple when you know how.
USB now working
Are the ROMS the operating system(windows 6.5 etc)?
Ive now gone to the Himalaya thread.
I see my questions are already answered there
many Thanks
once you have worked out which device you have and can look in the right section most things have been answered already.
i seem to recall that when i installed TomTom 6.5 on my Himalaya it had to go on first and then i had to remove all the voices bar the one i wanted to ahve any space left for anything else. never actually used it as i don't have a BT GPS receiver.
Before i start to do anything could i just check something.
the three main things i would like to do are:
Upgrade the OS to the latest but more importantly most stable version
unlock the sim from 02 only
and add a decent satnav program.
What would be correct order to do this, obviously satnav last.
But does the os need to be done before the sim unlock?
Thinking back to my early days with the Himalaya, i unlocked it and then upgraded it.
Check out All in one SIM unlock to remove the SIM lock. I had success with the early version an one Himalaya and two work Alpines.
The upgrade will totally wipe the device so anthing that is installed will get deleted.
I tried the sim unlock tool but i get a 'does not know what program to open it' message did i miss something?
I flashed the rom ok to a few different versions, I'm going to try the one in your signature ather 6.1
I also tried lastest version of tomtom but it when it came to install it said not enough room? I tried installing an older version of tomtom and it worked fine.
Any tips on that?
I was using a 2gb card?
Can't remember much about the SIM unlock tool, only thing springing to mind is to check that are trying to run it direct on your PDA?
Only ever tried TomTom v6.5. Think the issue is that by default it installs all the foreign voices into System Storage, which once you get it installed and running you can delete and recover space.
Can't say as i use my Himalaya for much these days as i have Trinity.
After a few days of constant trying you get the hang of it in the end.
Thanks so much for the replys. Ive never used a pda before and to start using one thats 10 years old is a bit stupid. However i now have the latest version of tomtom all up and running in time for my london to turkey drive on monday.
I do have an iphone but not much good when there is no 3g to download the maps
Still didnt get the unlock tool to work but i shall keep trying.
Nothing stupid in using a Himalaya, especially as a satnav, the 3.5" screen is great for that.
It has also given you something to learn the basics on in case you take the jump to a WM phone.
Hi
How do I get my activation key for Co-Pilot? Their website says I have to download the maps for £26.99, but I already have them as it was pre-installed and my trial has finished.
Can I buy the £26.99 version on the website and be given a key which I can use with my existing maps? Or do I need to unistall the maps I have and use the ones I download? Or third scenario, can I just buy a key on its own, slightly cheaper?
Any help appreciated
£26.99 is essentially purchasing the licence for the software. Once purchased, you will be issued a key, which you simply enter into CoPilot to unlock it fully. You do not need to make any modifications at all.
That said, you should be made aware that the HD2's version is not up-to-date and there are no news on when it will be updated. You will be sent a link to download the latest version, which contains some new, useful features and some bugs fixed, but if you are not fussed, you can continue using the one you currently have.
Interesting on the not up todate bit, since I have been having problems getting POIs into it. The court was out as far as I was concerned in terms of whether I had hacked the SD folders and lost something important to enable this process or whether it doesn't work with the version shipped with the device.
So the Co-Pilot people didn't get back for a month, then I had a sequence of interchanges, after about 8 days or so they gave me a link to what I had bought with new software. This link was expired and after a day they sent me a link which worked... although I didn't have my password with me.
The interchanges were barking up the wrong tree and for OV2 import you also need the image file not as a BMG but as a PNG and it all goes into the directory
Copilot/SAVE
[they were not right on that one, but that wasn't the problem, you might have to rotate the graphics till the angle looks right as well]
Now POI import works and it is new software since the splash screen is different, so I'm pretty convinced that what was shipped with my device didn't work with POI import.
Bottom line is take a back up, save password etc etc etc.
HI
i am looking for a gps software.
I was ready to buy copilot 8, i used to have version 7 and was quite happy with it. Then I realised that copilot 8 for HD2 is a "special" version.
For example there is traffic info with it. Is that correct?
I dont want to blame the development before it happend, but i very suspicious that they will put effort on this version when they have already a general windows mobile version.
so I look at igo8 but
1) how to buy it, the only site i found is to buy a card... Do i need to buy the card, then do some magic to put it on my own card.
2) it seems that to get it working is quite difficult from the number of post so what are the chances for an average guy ?
3) not sure if TMC is working or not, i found post stating both.... and is it free or a subscription ?
i dont want to start a thread " i have the best ..." but any advice for a gps with traffic info with european maps will be welcome.
thanks
it does work with some effort
I do not use TMC so no help there I saw the thread that supposedly says you can make TMC work. when I get time I will try it out but I manage with out it.
BUT I was able to load "Nav N GO" version 8.3.4.102680 on my HD2 and it is great.
the GPS lock some times as fast as 2 sec. flat. (on my old tilt it never took less the a minute from cold start.)
FYI> my program is a cracked version because I was not able to get an upgrade from my original 8.0 version soft. (yeah I do not want to by the card since I want to use a lot of maps and the only version you can by is on the 4Gb card (my map folder only is 4Gb ))
I hate to have to make such a thread, but ALK (the company that makes CoPilot) has informed me of something that they have neglected to mention to anyone purchasing CoPilot Live 8 for their HD2.
The HD2 specific version of CoPilot does NOT bring the map updates that CoPilot advertises
They mentioned that while they have come out with updates for their maps it's only for the REGULAR version of CoPilot. For now, the HD2 version (which I'm sure all HD2 users have purchased) does NOT come with this. So what does this mean? You would have to reinstall your CoPilot program as a normal GPS program. Meaning it would not function with NaviPanel and other HD2 specific software. They are not saying WHEN or even IF they will come out with the updates for the HD2 maps, but in my opinion it's not worth purchasing now until it's fully compatible.
In my own experience. I can't say I like it simply because the maps and searches that I've done (on Live Search for CoPilot) are WAAAAAY out of date. I was looking for a specific hospital when their "live search" gave me an address of where the hospital was almost 12 years ago. Not good and NO excuse for such lack of maintenance. I'll leave it up to people here to decide if they want to buy it or not.
Timely but a shame. I was about to buy this as I've got the UK Tmobile HD2 just this week and it hasn't got CoPilot on it at all. I thought I could get the HD2 version from ALK's website (I think I'd save a tenner) but now maybe I need to buy the full blown version. Are CoPilot's versions of maps easy to identify?
Well, I don´t use the Navipanel since it´s a pain ita to change the backcover everytime for the car-cradle, I´m better off with the Brodit-car-cradle.
I made some fuzz at ALK-Europe for the map-update (I bought the HD2-version in Dec. 2009) and they sent me the original Copilot8 cab for install on SDcard without charge. Now I run the regular version and have no update problem with the maps AND copilot doesn´t eat up my valuable Storage mem.
That's why I'm using the regular version of Copilot on my HD2.
And it works fine.
I indeed remember that when I tried Copilot special HD2 version (trial included in my original ROM) most of the maps were out of date and wrong.
I can't see any point is using the HD2 version, the regular is fine!
I bought cp 8 when It came out, before I even had a HD2, (but was using the test roms)
navipanel seems a gimmick to me, something that I tried once and never bothered with again.
Where are the maps located? In the Copilot folder, right ?
So why not download the regular Copilot version (2577 + Copilot) and then replace just the 2577 folder with the one dedicated to the HD2 (downloaded separately).
Just a suggestion. Could this possibly solve your problems?
@Phenomenon - can you tell me what version of Copilot you mean as a standard version? I'm using ver. 8.0.0.659 -
thanks
Where can I download the generic version of CoPilot? I'm hoping to free some memory, try out the newer maps and upload my tracks with CP Central. It's not that there's much difference between the 2 applications!
DrATty said:
Where can I download the generic version of CoPilot? I'm hoping to free some memory, try out the newer maps and upload my tracks sigh CP Central. It's not that there's much difference between the 2 applications!
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I have an idea, just a thought but it may just work! Try their website???
mcwarre said:
I have an idea, just a thought but it may just work! Try their website???
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Mmm. It occurred to me too but I can't find it. I can download the HD2 version but not the generic. For the former I was sent a link to the full version and just have to enter my details and download the maps etc. that I bought. Getting the HD2 trial is easy too but I cannot find the other anywhere.
ALK have supplied the links to the generic version of CoPilot, together with instructions as to how to install both versions from scratch. They were very quick to reply. I still can't find a link on the website.
Does anyone who has tried the generic version know whether it is necessary to de-register the installed version before trying the device-independent application when re-installing to the same device?
iGO8 people, iGO8!!
I bought the CoPilot 8 Live for my Touch Pro and then changed to the HD2.
But, after I installed the regular CP8 I downloaded the HD2 update software "found link with google in UK" and installed, I have the HD2 version and I do get the map updates...
This does work fine as I've performed the same thing above several times while upgrading roms.
On another note, the website says you can't switch your license to Android from another OS ie: Windows Mobile.. but I'm going to try to deactivate my license on CP8 in Win Mob and reactivate in Android...who knows hopefully it will work...
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...On another note, the web site says you can't switch your license to Android from another OS ie: Windows Mobile.. but I'm going to try to deactivate my license on CP8 in Win Mob and reactivate in Android...who knows hopefully it will work...
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I'm sure that the web site said it was alright to move between WM and Android when I bought CP8 some months ago. Moving to an iPhone was not possible. I'll see if I can find the page in my archive. I can't believe that I misread it. I think the text is ambiguous now but I'm fairly certain it has changed as well.
You might try contacting ALK and see what they have to say.
Hey
The first (Android) smartphone with camera that can really compete with the digital cameras and no section for it?
Modding it would be great
Altek A14 Leo
Altek Leo Section
regarding the serious problems the Altek Leo has, as no google apps, not even market, no rooting published, no adobe flash, firefox will not install and so on,
a section would be useful for the distessed owners of this camera phone which
is more a fumble phone than a smart phone. Its advantages are a very good lens, an outstanding CCD chip, a xenon flash and professional camera software.
True, is buggy
I bought one actually and despite it being pretty buggy, I just absolutely love the camera.
Definitely needs some software love though:
1) Interface is pretty sluggish and 2.1 isn't helping, the latest android performance improvements would be nice.
2) Touch-screen is strangely inaccurate. Swype was a must for me.
3) Battery life is pretty bad (not certain how much a newer Android would help, but any amount of powersaving fixes would help).
4) Buttons/widgets to lock the screen (e.g. Extended Controls) don't work.
5) The camera button doesn't open the camera when the phone is locked (debatable I guess, but imo, the camera button should just open the camera, period).
6) Default alarm clock doesn't ring randomly.
7) Not to mention apps randomly crashing, strange animation bugs in the Album viewer, no google apps, terrible GPS, etc.
But despite those, I've managed to work my way round them and am in love with it.
Alex
I have one of these and I do like the quirkyness .
I would love to improve the experience by modding.
Quirkyness fits well
To continue the list (more than enough for a forum)
- Backups by Titanium, AVG or Nandroid do not work because i have no idea
how to root the Altek Leo.
- WLAN range is still very short and does not always an automatic reconnect.
- I could not manage to make any browser play flash files, but the moboplayer
plays flv files well.
- Apps like soundhound say the microphone is blocked.
About half of the apps i need are not available because they will not install
or they are exclusively available over google market and getting them from
file hosters seems a bit risky to me. Most of this problems seem to be caused
by the small software space of 120 MB for files and 83 MB for running
applications.
But i will keep the Altek Leo and use it because the camera prooved itself
as outstanding among mobile phones.
- I use the application stores Applanet, Amazone Appstore, Handango,
SlideMe SAM and the tools Memory Booster Lite, Android Tweak.
Does anyone discovered any other useful helpers for this half of an
ANDROID device ?
"We do not need any adobe flash, we have got a real xenon flash."
Where To Buy
Does anyone know where to pick up/order one of these units?
Here To Buy
Search at Ebay, you will need a Paypal account.
I bought mine from Wifigadget.
Eason of Yupitek provides International Customer Service,
have a look at the facebook pinwall.
Thanks for the tips! Really like Memory Booster and Swype.
If you're on a mac, the "missing sync" from markspace is well worth the buy - particularly given that there does not seem to be a way to add a Google account under accounts and sync - it's missing on my altek leo! Anyone elses too?
Also recommend "Lookout" if you're worried about virus from no easy way to get apks other than file sharing sites.
Despite the quirks, very happy with this all-in-one device - music player + phone + camera - 3 down to 1! Fantastic!
Vignette
Sidenote, 'Vignette' is the perfect app for this device.
It doesn't fix any of the quirkiness, but it's a photo manipulation tool which complements the fantastic camera perfectly.
You can take your pics and then touch them up making the phone a studio for all things photography.
You can purchase it from the AndAppStore.
By poor battery life, how many days do you get out of it?
root and market
Has anyone tried the Gingerbreak exploit? I heard it might work on older devices. Also, if you don't trust file sharing sites and want stuff from the market. You could try running an emulator and installing the Market on that, then sideloading the APKs. I haven't tried it myself yet, but it seems there are a lot of people doing this. Here's one HOWTO which is specific to Mac but I think it's prety much the same or at least you should be able to use the same system image. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1387830/how-to-install-android-market-app-on-the-emulator there are lots of other links if you google "android market emulator" I don't have the Leo yet because they're sold out in Taiwan, but I've got mine on order. I'm most interested whether the google apps work at all if they're sideloaded. I've just sort of bricked my older Cyanogen device. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Oh, here's a Windows specific link - http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/10004/accessing-android-market-from-android-sdk/
and be careful with Gingerbreak!
There's also UniversalAndRoot to try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747598
and SuperOneClick http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
Poor battery-life
@rocky7st
It depends on usage. Light usage is ok. Any sort of medium/heavy usage won't get you through the day.
I bought it from an ebay seller which sent me 2 batteries which was helpful:
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230614421067
It's is useful since it allows me to occasionally geek out with the camera, playing with apps or using the GPS (i.e. 2 hours straight) and and it'll completely run out of juice by late afternoon.
I usually wait till I get home to recharge it on those occasions, but it's been very useful to be able to switch to the backup battery if I'm out and about and I really need to use the phone.
@everyone_else
On the topic of side-loading apps, my gf has an Android phone with a market on it, so I use the "Astro" file manager which allows you to "Backup" the apks, and then I transfer them to my phone via email.
I've been unable to get my device to show up with adb, so not far enough to try SuperOneClick.
UniversalAndRoot says something like "unable to root"
Z4Root says "running root exploit" and does not progress..
That's bad news but good to know at the same time. Hopefully there will be a method soon. Still waiting on mine but I unbricked my older one. Seems to be an almost total lack of hands-on reviews (outside of a trade show) so I thought someone might be interested in this one. Also, I emailed the author to see whether and how he installed the Market app.
http://120x160.com/old-entries/216-hardware-review-altek-leo-a14-camera-phone
Cheers for the reply jackflap. Do you guys know anything about the Android 2.2 upgrade, I've heard Altek is meant to be releasing it next month.
Okay, I got SuperOneClick working so I have root. ADB worked in windows after installing the Altek software.
ADB in linux still cannot find the phone..
So I tried installing various vending.apk files but keep getting MISSING SHARED LIBRARY or out of date SDK.
@daktak I've been trying to develop for the Leo but have not been able to get ADB to work in windows. Where did you obtain the Altek software?
Hi All,
I am a complete noob here and non technical.
Recently bought an altek leo with the sole purpose of loading an app called Passport Photo Plus and using the device to create passport photopgraphs and to send by Bluetooth to a compatible printer.
We have been doing this on other android smartphones but wanted to use the altek due to its camera features.
It appears that our desired app is ony avaiable on Market.
Being non -technical we have tried and failed to find a way to install this app on our leo.
I'm sure there may be other apps available but we specifically want this one due to it's features.
Does anybody know if this can be done, and if so how? Can anybody point me in the right direction (in easy to understand non tech terms please!)
Would happily pay a small fee for succesful step by step instructions (not sure if I can post that here, if not please ignore / mods pls delete).
Many thanks in advance.