I hate to have to make such a thread, but ALK (the company that makes CoPilot) has informed me of something that they have neglected to mention to anyone purchasing CoPilot Live 8 for their HD2.
The HD2 specific version of CoPilot does NOT bring the map updates that CoPilot advertises
They mentioned that while they have come out with updates for their maps it's only for the REGULAR version of CoPilot. For now, the HD2 version (which I'm sure all HD2 users have purchased) does NOT come with this. So what does this mean? You would have to reinstall your CoPilot program as a normal GPS program. Meaning it would not function with NaviPanel and other HD2 specific software. They are not saying WHEN or even IF they will come out with the updates for the HD2 maps, but in my opinion it's not worth purchasing now until it's fully compatible.
In my own experience. I can't say I like it simply because the maps and searches that I've done (on Live Search for CoPilot) are WAAAAAY out of date. I was looking for a specific hospital when their "live search" gave me an address of where the hospital was almost 12 years ago. Not good and NO excuse for such lack of maintenance. I'll leave it up to people here to decide if they want to buy it or not.
Timely but a shame. I was about to buy this as I've got the UK Tmobile HD2 just this week and it hasn't got CoPilot on it at all. I thought I could get the HD2 version from ALK's website (I think I'd save a tenner) but now maybe I need to buy the full blown version. Are CoPilot's versions of maps easy to identify?
Well, I don´t use the Navipanel since it´s a pain ita to change the backcover everytime for the car-cradle, I´m better off with the Brodit-car-cradle.
I made some fuzz at ALK-Europe for the map-update (I bought the HD2-version in Dec. 2009) and they sent me the original Copilot8 cab for install on SDcard without charge. Now I run the regular version and have no update problem with the maps AND copilot doesn´t eat up my valuable Storage mem.
That's why I'm using the regular version of Copilot on my HD2.
And it works fine.
I indeed remember that when I tried Copilot special HD2 version (trial included in my original ROM) most of the maps were out of date and wrong.
I can't see any point is using the HD2 version, the regular is fine!
I bought cp 8 when It came out, before I even had a HD2, (but was using the test roms)
navipanel seems a gimmick to me, something that I tried once and never bothered with again.
Where are the maps located? In the Copilot folder, right ?
So why not download the regular Copilot version (2577 + Copilot) and then replace just the 2577 folder with the one dedicated to the HD2 (downloaded separately).
Just a suggestion. Could this possibly solve your problems?
@Phenomenon - can you tell me what version of Copilot you mean as a standard version? I'm using ver. 8.0.0.659 -
thanks
Where can I download the generic version of CoPilot? I'm hoping to free some memory, try out the newer maps and upload my tracks with CP Central. It's not that there's much difference between the 2 applications!
DrATty said:
Where can I download the generic version of CoPilot? I'm hoping to free some memory, try out the newer maps and upload my tracks sigh CP Central. It's not that there's much difference between the 2 applications!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have an idea, just a thought but it may just work! Try their website???
mcwarre said:
I have an idea, just a thought but it may just work! Try their website???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mmm. It occurred to me too but I can't find it. I can download the HD2 version but not the generic. For the former I was sent a link to the full version and just have to enter my details and download the maps etc. that I bought. Getting the HD2 trial is easy too but I cannot find the other anywhere.
ALK have supplied the links to the generic version of CoPilot, together with instructions as to how to install both versions from scratch. They were very quick to reply. I still can't find a link on the website.
Does anyone who has tried the generic version know whether it is necessary to de-register the installed version before trying the device-independent application when re-installing to the same device?
iGO8 people, iGO8!!
I bought the CoPilot 8 Live for my Touch Pro and then changed to the HD2.
But, after I installed the regular CP8 I downloaded the HD2 update software "found link with google in UK" and installed, I have the HD2 version and I do get the map updates...
This does work fine as I've performed the same thing above several times while upgrading roms.
On another note, the website says you can't switch your license to Android from another OS ie: Windows Mobile.. but I'm going to try to deactivate my license on CP8 in Win Mob and reactivate in Android...who knows hopefully it will work...
noellenchris said:
...On another note, the web site says you can't switch your license to Android from another OS ie: Windows Mobile.. but I'm going to try to deactivate my license on CP8 in Win Mob and reactivate in Android...who knows hopefully it will work...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm sure that the web site said it was alright to move between WM and Android when I bought CP8 some months ago. Moving to an iPhone was not possible. I'll see if I can find the page in my archive. I can't believe that I misread it. I think the text is ambiguous now but I'm fairly certain it has changed as well.
You might try contacting ALK and see what they have to say.
Related
Does anybody know if the PPC version of TomTom 7 will goes out ?
Following some information's I've read, TomTom will not sell this version "in the box" but some company may deliver a v7 version with their device.
Also read that HTC will deliver this with the Diamond.
Thx in advance for your feedback.
academic said:
Does anybody know if the PPC version of TomTom 7 will goes out ?
Following some information's I've read, TomTom will not sell this version "in the box" but some company may deliver a v7 version with their device.
Also read that HTC will deliver this with the Diamond.
Thx in advance for your feedback.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Version 7 for PDA/Smart Phones still unknown according to Tomtom.
---Alex--- said:
Version 7 for PDA/Smart Phones still unknown according to Tomtom.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Okay, thanks
ffs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401679
XTREEM|RAGE said:
ffs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401679
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
According to Tomtom, the availability of version 7 is unknow.
However, some people have ripped the HTC Diamond version which is illegal and no new maps are available that works with the ripped version although some people claims that the maps of release 6.75 works but they are out off date. Conclusion: May be that you can get an illegal version of Tomtom 7, but it will not support the latest maps.
Therefore, if you want navigation with the latest maps consider to use IGO8.
---Alex--- said:
According to Tomtom, the availability of version 7 is unknow.
However, some people have ripped the HTC Diamond version which is illegal and no new maps are available that works with the ripped version although some people claims that the maps of release 6.75 works but they are out off date. Conclusion: May be that you can get an illegal version of Tomtom 7, but it will not support the latest maps.
Therefore, if you want navigation with the latest maps consider to use IGO8.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
People in the Diamond forum and Kasier forum have download and purchased the version 7 maps from the tom tom 720 and they work with the ripper tt7
--delete--
hello !
I have installed tomtom 7 and works great on my polaris with map france_720_1802 ..
Really speed this tomtom, but i try igo8 and looks very good with more options !
TT7
I've installed TT7 with the West_European_720_1803 map.
It works but it isn't Navigon (which I prefer).
kr.,
Frepke
TT7 works, but i cant get any 7 maps to work... strange...
I installed TT7 on my Cruise, it works perfectly. It even proposed me to download a free map which I did )
I found somewhere to have the western europe v7 also. Great day !
Tzeunis said:
TT7 works, but i cant get any 7 maps to work... strange...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You have a free download in the change map section.
My current best result...
Can i install 2 Versions of TomTom?
I have already installed tomtom6 and now i want to test the version 7. But tomtom7 asks me, if i want to delete the old version.
Can i install both versions? i dont want to delete the version 6.
Bib_x said:
Can i install 2 Versions of TomTom?
I have already installed tomtom6 and now i want to test the version 7. But tomtom7 asks me, if i want to delete the old version.
Can i install both versions? i dont want to delete the version 6.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No you cant. But why do you want to keep version 6? Version 7 works better, works with newer maps... why keep with the old stuff?
I have TT6 running WE 6.75 and use a lot, so am more than interested in upgrading.
3 Qs
1. What are the new features of TT7? Is it worth it? Is it really faster? One feature I would really like in particular: does TT7 have the ability to give a voice warning of being over the speed limit?
2. Do we ever expect TT to release this formally for PDAs?
3. Do you also need to update TomTom Home to 2.x? (TT6 only worked with TT Home 1.x).
Thanks
Q1: you can give a sound to warning over speed so i guess a voice too.
Q2&Q3 dont know
CompleteIdiot said:
I have TT6 running WE 6.75 and use a lot, so am more than interested in upgrading.
3 Qs
1. What are the new features of TT7? Is it worth it? Is it really faster? One feature I would really like in particular: does TT7 have the ability to give a voice warning of being over the speed limit?
2. Do we ever expect TT to release this formally for PDAs?
3. Do you also need to update TomTom Home to 2.x? (TT6 only worked with TT Home 1.x).
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
I have it running on the poor mans Polaris (Artemis) and it works just as well as TT6.
1. The new features I have noticed are
i You can now disable auto zoom, so you can set a zoom level you like and it won't change.
ii You can set a warning both for going over the speed limit or for a speed defined by you.
iii You can change the pointer to your car of choice.
iv It displays the road you are on as well as the next road when following a route.
v the speed warning is now red background with white text so is easier to read (was red on blue before).
vi Has access to MapShare (I can't get this to work as I have it installed purely on my SD card but other forum users report it works).
2. No idea.
3. You need to use TT Home ver 2.3
Overall it is not a major improvement on TT6 but there are a few bits. Due to the size of its installation (over 12mb) I can't fit it on my device storage but it runs fine on the SD card. However, this does prevent it from connecting to TT Home. However, I intend to change my Artemis for a MDA Compact IV or an Orbit 2 so that problem should be easy to fix.
Regards
Thanks spangelsaregreat and le poulpe for replies.
As I use mine in my pocket via earplugs on my motorbike, and hence never look at the screen (and hence my interest in voice/audio features) it doesn't look like there is much more in TT7, except of course the speed warning.
just tested tomtom v7.450.9028 on my polaris with tt7.20 and tt7.15 maps. it works great and even faster then tomtom6
These are a few non-working apps I discovered when trying to customise my TD2 on day one.
1) HTC's gprs monitor refuses to install.
2) Core player exits on installation complaining about a "problem". - NOW FIXED
3) I already mentioned Tomtom6 on another thread.
Anyone found any others?
gadgetgaz said:
These are a few non-working apps I discovered when trying to customise my TD2 on day one.
1) HTC's gprs monitor refuses to install.
2) Core player exits on installation complaining about a "problem".
3) I already mentioned Tomtom6 on another thread.
Anyone found any others?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As I've seen coreplayer showing video on the Diamond2 in one of the reviews I'd say that something has gone wrong during your customisation.
Core player 1.3 work perfectly on my Diamond 2 !!!!
A problem has occurred with player.exe
Please tell Microsoft about this problem.
That's what happens when I run the program. It installs and appears in the program list but just won't run. I can't tell you what version it was either.
Maybe I should try a different version.
After a hard reset and direct install onto the device from a cab file I can now confirm that Coreplayer 1.3 does work very well on the D2. I have amended my original post. Thanks.
CoPilot Live 7 HTC Touch Diamond Edition does not work with TD2 and CoPilot support phone number is useless for any help.
flomet said:
CoPilot Live 7 HTC Touch Diamond Edition does not work with TD2 and CoPilot support phone number is useless for any help.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im guessing that you have the maps on a sd card? all u need is the install cab and copy the maps across and use your licence to activate, should work ok
MartyH32 said:
Im guessing that you have the maps on a sd card? all u need is the install cab and copy the maps across and use your licence to activate, should work ok
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is a new updated version of Co-Pilot specifically for the Diamond2, phone technical support on 0871 6412 540 (in the UK) and ask them for the download link, I did and my Co-Pilot is working ok.
If you try and load the D1 version you wont see many of the graphics on the screen, to get round this you can try using a non HTC old version and use the cab file from that, you should be able to find one floating around somewhere. The graphics are still not correct using the old generic cab but its usable.
Thanks for the reply and I did contact them and was given a link to the Diamond 2 program and it works ok.
iveco420 said:
There is a new updated version of Co-Pilot specifically for the Diamond2, phone technical support on 0871 6412 540 (in the UK) and ask them for the download link, I did and my Co-Pilot is working ok.
If you try and load the D1 version you wont see many of the graphics on the screen, to get round this you can try using a non HTC old version and use the cab file from that, you should be able to find one floating around somewhere. The graphics are still not correct using the old generic cab but its usable.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you let me know what that version is? Im running 7.7.0.134 (full version with SD card etc, not Diamond version - which I think is the same but just comes without SD card and CoPilot Central PC app) but thats been the "latest" for nearly a year. Does this "new" version support the 480x800 resolution correctly.
It runs fine, just that the onscreen keys etc appear squashed.
Be grateful if you could let me know.
I just got the latest download v7.8.0.162 from them two days ago and was told by there sales person that the only thing that does not work is the TD2 Zoom Bar.
I have tested the program and it runs very smooth
How does this compare feature-wise to the TomTom mentioned in other threads for the TD2?
Co-Pilot
The version I am running is 7.8.0.162 Data NAVTEQ.EU 07Q3. v7.1.13.1.5, my understanding is that it has a higher screen resolution than the old Diamond 1 version, the menu system is a bit different. I think this version new will also run on the Touch HD.
I was told by Co-Pilot technical support that version 8 is on the horizon and will be out later this year.
hotlips69 said:
How does this compare feature-wise to the TomTom mentioned in other threads for the TD2?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In my opinion Co-Pilot is the better choice, for example you can specify the sort of road preferences you would normally drive on for each sort of road and enter the average speed you drive at to create a user profile that is normally quite accurate, there is a better zooming facility on Co P and I usually drive with the screen zoomed out so i can see all the small roads and villages around my route.
Does anyone have a download link for the generic version of CoPilot Live 7? I'm not after a license code or extra maps, just the .cab file for the generic version to try on my HD2.
I already have a bought-and-paid-for Pan European maps version of CoPilot Live 7, Touch Diamond Edition. I have tried installing this on my HD2 but the Icons and drop down boxes in the menus appear blank so unless you are strong with The Force you cannot use it. Oddly the actual navigation part seems to work fine if you can actually program a destination.
I was wondering if this was a screen resolution issue, as the Touch Diamond version was tweaked to look good on its screen, which at the time had a higher res than most phones.
I'm guessing that generic CoPilot 7 won't work at all on the HD2 for the same reasons but I want to try it to save me spending £60 on the special HD2 version. I'm pretty annoyed at ALK right now because they won't supply me with a download link for version 7 and HD2 users specifically do not qualify for the cheap upgrade price when mocing from version 7 to 8.
Hopefully someone out there can help.
Hello.
I think this is the new hd2 version. I hope this is ok. It should be a normal trial version for 15 days.
click here
greeez
Or here is a good one from the HD2 rom :
http://htcpedia.com/dutty_gps_copilot_33a9992979734b276/soft/leo-apps.html
you may have to register first but its a great site with many good roms and advice
Thanks for ther replies but any "HD2 version" will be CoPilot 8, not 7. I'll try the rapidshare download tonight anyway but I think it will be the wrong version.
:Edit: OK, I've not tried installing it yet but judging by the setup file the rapidshare one has a "2577" folder, so this matches with CoPilot 7. I'll try installing it tonight. Cheers!
Both were version 8.
Has anyone got a download link for VERSION 7?
I finally managed to convince ALK to give me a download link for the Touch HD version of CoPilot 7 and despite ALK not officially saying it will work on the HD2, as far as I can tell its working fine.
Is there a Rom with windows mobile (6.5) for this phone? I want to get rid of Android. Which ROM is good to use?
grox said:
Is there a Rom with windows mobile (6.5) for this phone? I want to get rid of Android. Which ROM is good to use?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
just send the phone down the toilet, is the same thing as putting windows mobile on it
afaik there are no touchscreen drivers for winmo. otherwise it'd work. but i don't really see, why someone should want sth. like that!?
grox said:
Is there a Rom with windows mobile (6.5) for this phone? I want to get rid of Android. Which ROM is good to use?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why buy an Android OS phone if you want Windows Mobile on it?
Your sense =/= sense
Because on this phone Bluetooth is not working and I want to use tomtom navigator. Thats why I want to delete Android and punt WM 6.5 in it.
grox said:
Because on this phone Bluetooth is not working and I want to use tomtom navigator. Thats why I want to delete Android and punt WM 6.5 in it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why would you think it's the OS and not the ROM or phone itself?
is there a possibilty to install TomTom? Or another (Offline!) navigator???
Try here : www.microsoft.com.
grox said:
is there a possibilty to install TomTom? Or another (Offline!) navigator???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Copilot live works good.
iGO
There is also iGO 8. I just installed it lastnight and it looks like its going to run very well. Search around, the files are out there in Google-land.
Google Maps (as of Android 1.6) already has navigation but you have to be online for it obviously. I don't think there's enough memory short of the SD card to store a complete mapping solution. And Google Map's API Licensing restriction prevents 3rd party apps/devices to provide turn-by-turn direction via the phone.
android is the greatest OS for a phone, ever
windows mobile is one of the worst mobile OS's ever..
use ndrive, its an amazing software.
igo8 is okay, not to my liking though
sygic is great but seems a little sluggish, and its more geared towards europeans rather than north americans
copilot is suposed to be a good one, i havnt tried it though
WinMo?
This is definitely the first I've seen of this request... WinMo users are scrambling to get Android on their phones... but never to get rid of Android... lol. I definitely agree that flushing the phone would get the same thing done though. As far as GPS navigation I use Google. 4.0 works great for me! But then again, I'm in the US. I think there is a way to activate international functionality on Google Maps but I don't know.
it's for a collegue of mine, I have an Diamond2, of which I'm very happy with.
But she bought this phone to have navigation (offline). But after buying she realised there is no tomtom for Android yet, so my idea was to install a new rom with WM.
I will look for these programs, and test them offline. So there is no map i can install on a SD and navigate with the internal GPS? Because she doesn't have internet on her device.
doaneramma said:
There is also iGO 8. I just installed it lastnight and it looks like its going to run very well. Search around, the files are out there in Google-land.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can confirm this. iGO works very well.
grox said:
it's for a collegue of mine, I have an Diamond2, of which I'm very happy with.
But she bought this phone to have navigation (offline). But after buying she realised there is no tomtom for Android yet, so my idea was to install a new rom with WM.
I will look for these programs, and test them offline. So there is no map i can install on a SD and navigate with the internal GPS? Because she doesn't have internet on her device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
we already mentioned iGO. It is a complete offline software for navigation.
grox said:
it's for a collegue of mine, I have an Diamond2, of which I'm very happy with.
But she bought this phone to have navigation (offline). But after buying she realised there is no tomtom for Android yet, so my idea was to install a new rom with WM.
I will look for these programs, and test them offline. So there is no map i can install on a SD and navigate with the internal GPS? Because she doesn't have internet on her device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The problem with that idea is that Windows Mobile is only software, there's next to no chance that said WinMo Rom is gona have the driver support for all the hardware used in the android intended device which could leave you back to square one if you ever managed it but still couldn't hook up the tomtom, nor able to utilize the SD card for storage.
Also since WinMo is not open source, chances of making drivers for it is much harder than someone making drivers for android given the source.
grox said:
it's for a collegue of mine, I have an Diamond2, of which I'm very happy with.
But she bought this phone to have navigation (offline). But after buying she realised there is no tomtom for Android yet, so my idea was to install a new rom with WM.
I will look for these programs, and test them offline. So there is no map i can install on a SD and navigate with the internal GPS? Because she doesn't have internet on her device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
every app i mentioned has offline maps you can store on your SD card..
if you want something like tomtom then use sygic, its pretty much the same thing..
from all the satnavs i used garmin mobile xt is by far the best one ever...but its not for android..atleast not yet.
kbeezie said:
The problem with that idea is that Windows Mobile is only software, there's next to no chance that said WinMo Rom is gona have the driver support for all the hardware used in the android intended device which could leave you back to square one if you ever managed it but still couldn't hook up the tomtom, nor able to utilize the SD card for storage.
Also since WinMo is not open source, chances of making drivers for it is much harder than someone making drivers for android given the source.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yea exactly, its very hard to use windows mobile on a device thats not meant for it
whereas its much easier to port android into a different device due to open source (android on the samsung i900 omnia for example)
It's a joke? Windows Mobile?
HI
i am looking for a gps software.
I was ready to buy copilot 8, i used to have version 7 and was quite happy with it. Then I realised that copilot 8 for HD2 is a "special" version.
For example there is traffic info with it. Is that correct?
I dont want to blame the development before it happend, but i very suspicious that they will put effort on this version when they have already a general windows mobile version.
so I look at igo8 but
1) how to buy it, the only site i found is to buy a card... Do i need to buy the card, then do some magic to put it on my own card.
2) it seems that to get it working is quite difficult from the number of post so what are the chances for an average guy ?
3) not sure if TMC is working or not, i found post stating both.... and is it free or a subscription ?
i dont want to start a thread " i have the best ..." but any advice for a gps with traffic info with european maps will be welcome.
thanks
it does work with some effort
I do not use TMC so no help there I saw the thread that supposedly says you can make TMC work. when I get time I will try it out but I manage with out it.
BUT I was able to load "Nav N GO" version 8.3.4.102680 on my HD2 and it is great.
the GPS lock some times as fast as 2 sec. flat. (on my old tilt it never took less the a minute from cold start.)
FYI> my program is a cracked version because I was not able to get an upgrade from my original 8.0 version soft. (yeah I do not want to by the card since I want to use a lot of maps and the only version you can by is on the 4Gb card (my map folder only is 4Gb ))