Was just wondering why the a2sd functionality hasnt or is not being implemented into the roms being made for i727, is it just cuz its not needed or no one has achieve on implementing it yet?
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nothing,?
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Are you talking about apps2sd?? Because that feature has been built in for a while now. Just go to Setting > Applications > Manage Applications and click the tab On the top for "On SD Card".
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I think he is referring to a2sd, the script that allows apps to go to sd card, regardless of if the app supports it or not. The script is called on phone boot up, before regular apps2sd, which overcomes some of the apps2sd problems, like widgets. I used that script on my Aria, as it had a very limited amount of internal space. However, I think it may have slowed down app load times slightly.
I haven't seen a script for it in the Skyrocket forums, but I have seen some market apps that can do something similar. Might look into that. I have yet to see a need for it on my Skyrocket, but then again, I don't have as many apps as I did on my Aria.
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I think he is referring to a2sd, the script that allows apps to go to sd card, regardless of if the app supports it or not. The script is called on phone boot up, before regular apps2sd, which overcomes some of the apps2sd problems, like widgets. I used that script on my Aria, as it had a very limited amount of internal space. However, I think it may have slowed down app load times slightly.
I haven't seen a script for it in the Skyrocket forums, but I have seen some market apps that can do something similar. Might look into that. I have yet to see a need for it on my Skyrocket, but then again, I don't have as many apps as I did on my Aria.
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Gotcha! Yea I've actually never seen that. I guess since I've always had phones with 16 GB internal so have never seen a need for that. Apps2sd always seemed like it was meant for older gen phones that didn't have much internal memory.
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Hi guys, I was just wondering if there is any chance that this phone could compete with the Thunderbolt because of the lack of RAM? It seems so laggy sometimes compared to my friends Bolt. There are so many things to like about this phone but multi-tasking can be painful sometimes. Today in Chicago his Bolt was getting 30 MB download and I was getting around 20. What is causing such a big difference? Can rooting make that big of a difference? How much more RAM are you guys seeing after debloat? I don't know much about Samsung phones but I need to get the scoop so I can make a well informed decision. Thanks guys
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To my understanding, RAM is RAM. There is no gaining any by deleting bloatware. You're just gaining system storage(app space) by deleting bloatware. But whatever RAM your phone came with, is what you have. For instance, let's use your PC as an example. If you want to install a new OS on your PC and it requires more memory, you're going to have to go and buy another memory board if you have a second slot that allows you to add more memory. Once you do that, then things will run faster and you can do more multi-tasking . But just removing apps and files off of your PC will not accomplish this by itself. So yes, more RAM can make a difference. Try rooting and apply the Voodoo lag-fix because this helps tremendously. Samsung does something different with Android on their phones, to my understanding, which makes the phone lag very bad. The Voodoo lag-fix changes the file system from RFS to EXT4, thus speeding things up the way it should have been out of the box. Go to the development section and read up on it some. If it sounds good and you're not afraid of the procedures (which are explained with step by step directions and pictures to make it very easy), then you should give it a try and see how it works out for you. Hope this helps.
BTW, this will not help with your internet download and upload speeds. That's dealing with something different.
Came from a bolt. Removed touchwiz...no lag. Seems just as speedy as the bolt. Download speeds are about the same also. The only thing i miss is the dev support.
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To my understanding, RAM is RAM. There is no gaining any by deleting bloatware. You're just gaining system storage(app space) by deleting bloatware. But whatever RAM your phone came with, is what you have. For instance, let's use your PC as an example. If you want to install a new OS on your PC and it requires more memory, you're going to have to go and buy another memory board if you have a second slot that allows you to add more memory. Once you do that, then things will run faster and you can do more multi-tasking . But just removing apps and files off of your PC will not accomplish this by itself. So yes, more RAM can make a difference. Try rooting and apply the Voodoo lag-fix because this helps tremendously. Samsung does something different with Android on their phones, to my understanding, which makes the phone lag very bad. The Voodoo lag-fix changes the file system from RFS to EXT4, thus speeding things up the way it should have been out of the box. Go to the development section and read up on it some. If it sounds good and you're not afraid of the procedures (which are explained with step by step directions and pictures to make it very easy), then you should give it a try and see how it works out for you. Hope this helps.
BTW, this will not help with your internet download and upload speeds. That's dealing with something different.
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Thanks for the response. Thought some of that bloatware was using up system memory running in the background. I have read about the lagfix but I don't really understand what it actually does, well I should say I don't understand how changing the file system helps, but I guess that's why I'm not a developer. I'm not afraid to root as I've had the OG and Thunderbolt and rooted both of them. I only have few days to make a decision but I am missing the ability to surf and talk on 3G as well as 4G. Grrr why does Verizon do this!
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Yea this is a big deal for me also. I guess I won't be happy until the Targa comes out.
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Came from a bolt. Removed touchwiz...no lag. Seems just as speedy as the bolt. Download speeds are about the same also. The only thing i miss is the dev support.
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Exactly how I feel as well. Don't miss the Thunderbolt at all...
lag is still there when you multi-task... i can play words with friends, play music in the background and browse (sites like espn,pocketnow,techcrunch) with flash set to always on and using desktop view with the Tbolt and no lag! This is using stock browser, Miren, Xscope or Dolphin.. I cant do this with the Charge unless I use Opera Mobile. The thing that gets me is how my Epic on RFS file system can handle it and the Charge cant? it has the same processor and RAM... My guess is poor RAM management or maybe the new Touchwiz base that it uses..
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Came from a bolt. Removed touchwiz...no lag. Seems just as speedy as the bolt. Download speeds are about the same also. The only thing i miss is the dev support.
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Same here. We already have kernals and whatnot so were getting there. A few more weeks and we will be in the game
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I just picked up a Droid Charge a few weeks ago. I am digging the phone, but i am a long-time user switching from a Droid X which had 16gb internal storage. It is a brutal culture shock to say the least. I am always checking out new games and apps and have a significant collection. In other words, i need the storage! Especially since there are many apps and games that do not support move-to-sd card feature. Running out of storage was something i never had to even think about until now. It's really the only major gripe i have with the phone, but it's a major gripe considering the Charge only has a measely 1GB of internal storage. Ug.
Out of habit, i move all the apps to my SD card when i can. "When I can..." is the problem. I never had to use an "apps2sd" app before, but i've seen some versions for Froyo in passing. Now that i actually have a severe need to move some apps to the SD card (e.g. Let's Golf 2 - a fairly large game), i was having trouble spotting an apps2SD app that might work on Gingerbread.
[Q] Does anyone have a version (or know of a version) of an Apps2SD app that works for Gingerbread 2.3.4 (EP1F)? I am desperate to move some of these stubborn apps. It's gotten frustrating enough to tempt me into thinking about going back to my X. It would be wonderful if someone could help point me in the right direction!
For what it's worth i am on the leaked TW stock rom with 2.3.4 (+CWM+Voodoo) found in v2 of "The Charge Kit."
Thanks!
I agree!!! I recently got a Droid Charge myself and have grown more and more frustrated with having to constantly move every single app, no matter the size, to the SD card. It really is a pain. Sooo, if anyone has any suggestions, I'd really appreciate it too!
Thanx for posting about this, TheShade!
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You can "force" apps to SD with Titanium Backup. However, the ones that don't support APP2SD will not run until you move them back to internal memory.
Also, I think you would be wise to request this to be moved to General. Lot more traffic there.
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You can "force" apps to SD with Titanium Backup. However, the ones that don't support APP2SD will not run until you move them back to internal memory.
Also, I think you would be wise to request this to be moved to General. Lot more traffic there.
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Thanks kvswim! Appreciate the suggestion.
Just wanted to say thanks again kvswim, for the suggestions. I have had Titanium for a while now. Shamefully, i had not fully explored some of the batch options. Tho I am still hoping to find a gingerbread version of an apps2sd app which allows u to force the stubborn apps to the sd card, Titanium has some nice options that I hadn't noticed before.
I was able to use Titanium to force-move Lets Golf 2 and some other larger games to the sd card. I am also able to run all of these games and apps with no problems. Sweet! This freed up quite a bit of storage for now. I have an even greater respect and appreciation for Titanium now.
Thanks, again!
I've noticed both on my Archos 43 running 2.2 and my Epic 4G Touch running 2.3 that after a hard reset, apps moved to SD are still there, orphaned (i.e., unusable), taking up space.
I made CleanApp, a quick and dirty app that cleans up such orphan apps. Needs root, of course.
I haven't actually tested the latest version on 2.2, but only on 2.3. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. This is likely buggy. But I found it useful: it recovered 800mb on E4GT.
You think this would work on 4.1 JB?
I don't know. But you can run it and see if it shows any orphan files that look plausible to you.
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can't really say if it works on 4.1.1, but it installed, launched and said "no orphan data found". Anyway, thanks! Good job!
I've been having the constant warm reboots when powering on issue, and running CleanApp, which found about 160mb in orphan asec files, seems to have just helped me a bit. I still got some reboots but fewer.
Important note: If you run this too soon after a boot, and all the apps aren't mounted yet, it'll think some files are orphans which aren't.
Hello, my question might be a bit silly despite the fact that our Sensation has 1gb internal memory for apps and games. However, for a user like me, it seems to be not enough. I just purchased a class 10 32gb memory card and I plan to do app2sd like I did on my brother's HTC Explorer. However, I am not sure if our sensation supports moving apps using app2sd or link2d. I also don't really know how to configure app2sd. For HTC Explorer, the app2sd is already built in the custom rom.
Thanks in advance.
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Hello, my question might be a bit silly despite the fact that our Sensation has 1gb internal memory for apps and games. However, for a user like me, it seems to be not enough. I just purchased a class 10 32gb memory card and I plan to do app2sd like I did on my brother's HTC Explorer. However, I am not sure if our sensation supports moving apps using app2sd or link2d. I also don't really know how to configure app2sd. For HTC Explorer, the app2sd is already built in the custom rom.
Thanks in advance.
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actually you don't need app2sd to move apps in sd.it can be done from settings
leviathian said:
Hello, my question might be a bit silly despite the fact that our Sensation has 1gb internal memory for apps and games. However, for a user like me, it seems to be not enough. I just purchased a class 10 32gb memory card and I plan to do app2sd like I did on my brother's HTC Explorer. However, I am not sure if our sensation supports moving apps using app2sd or link2d. I also don't really know how to configure app2sd. For HTC Explorer, the app2sd is already built in the custom rom.
Thanks in advance.
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Since you're already running ViperS which is an ICS ROM, you can easily move those apps (of course apps which are supported to be moved to SD). You just have to go to Settings -> Apps and you should see a list of apps under USB Storage, those are the apps that can be moved to SD. Some apps will automatically move to SD once you've installed them and you can see a tick mark there. Those apps without a tick mark, you can tap on it and then select Move to SD.
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Since you're already running ViperS which is an ICS ROM, you can easily move those apps (of course apps which are supported to be moved to SD). You just have to go to Settings -> Apps and you should see a list of apps under USB Storage, those are the apps that can be moved to SD. Some apps will automatically move to SD once you've installed them and you can see a tick mark there. Those apps without a tick mark, you can tap on it and then select Move to SD.
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Thanks for your responses. Fyi, I have already done that method and also I am already running out of memory. I saw my brother's phone which uses a2sdgui on his rom, no matter how much he installed stuff, internal memory usage is below 30mb. That's why I'm asking if I can use a2sd/app2sd method. Or is it just the same?
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it's an option, but not the only way
No, its not the same. You need to install a2sd+ script, make ext4 partition on your sd and then apps will install on sd.
1. It will slow phone down
2. Not sure wherever it will work, check with both script and ROM developers.
3. Don't expect much help on that from devs, as for majority of people 1gb is more than enough.
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No, its not the same. You need to install a2sd+ script, make ext4 partition on your sd and then apps will install on sd.
1. It will slow phone down
2. Not sure wherever it will work, check with both script and ROM developers.
3. Don't expect much help on that from devs, as for majority of people 1gb is more than enough.
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Yeah I realize the fact that I wont get much help. But, it will slow down my phone? Can you explain more on this?
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Yeah I realize the fact that I wont get much help. But, it will slow down my phone? Can you explain more on this?
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it is simply like in the pc.wherever you are running anything to pc from c it reads/writes it faster than running it from external harddrive disk
always an internal storage has faster read\write than external
Hi Guys,
I'm loving the CronosX RC2.1 rom, but it has one problem: I can't move my largest apps (like WhatsApp) to the SD card. There are but a few apps where the Move to SD button is not greyed out. When I install the CM7 mod it all works well.
Please help. I really like the speed of the CronosX mod, but this is a dealbreaker.
Guess I'll stick with CM7 then
Well since nobody seems to know the answer, I'll stick with CM7, even though it's sluggish and slow on this phone.
By the way, I've tried getting the overclocking to work, so I've tried modding the init.mapphone_umts.rc, and editing the scripts in init.d. The scripts in init.d seem to never load at all (for instance /proc/overclock is never actually created, and no changes made to the script 10overclock ever actually get updated to the device). Furthermore, there seem to be several lines in the init.mapphone_umts.rc that are duplicated just a few lines lower, and overclock.ko never gets loaded.
Anyhoo, it was a nice try.
Dont so out dated phone no support anymore!
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mchlbenner said:
Dont so out dated phone no support anymore!
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I'm not asking for actual support, I was hoping there would be people with some experience with this phone. I'm betting there are still enough people who use what you call an outdated phone.
I switched to Cronos x since you mentioned it, its fast and sometimes crashes the camera, native app2sd sucks in this ROM. You have to install Link2sd as a system app and then install all your apps. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1519857&highlight=link2sd&page=26
If you like GB, this is a great rom not as fast but very stable. This and CM 6.3.7 are the best for me.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2181727
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I switched to Cronos x since you mentioned it, its fast and sometimes crashes the camera, native app2sd sucks in this ROM. You have to install Link2sd as a system app and then install all your apps. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1519857&highlight=link2sd&page=26
If you like GB, this is a great rom not as fast but very stable. This and CM 6.3.7 are the best for me.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2181727
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I've since switched to CM (too slow for my liking) and after that back to rooted stock, but the lack of functionality is really starting to bug me Thinking of switching back to CronosX and trying out the link2sd "hack". I've tried about 10 roms for my xt720 now and I still like CronosX the best, expecially now that I know how to fix the SD problem. Thanks for the info.