I'm running GTA 3 v1.3 on my Note and I'm noticing some stutter. Not stutter as in low framerate, but some micro-hangs when driving around. Framerate is very good, but this stutter is not normal. My Galaxy S, while running at a much lower framerate and no audio doesn't exhibit this. It's like read speeds from the internal SD aren't high enough to stream data to the RAM, and this leads to lag. Anyone else having this?
I'm running stock LA4, stock CPU,very few apps installed. Could this be ROM related? I didn't notice this in videos of GTA3 on the Note on YouTube.
Any ideas?
Galaxy S: 800x480
Galaxy Note: 1280x800
The Note has to push A LOT more pixels than the S. GTA doesn't stutter here, but i'm running custom kernel, Franco #7 on LB1 deodexed w/ few stock apps ++.
I'm not talking about framerates. Framerates are high. This is the kind of stutter like there isn't enough RAM.
The only explanation I can give is that SD-card read rates are not high enough.
Hasn't anyone else experienced this on stock ROMs?
Please, can anyone check this on their Note? I'm running LB1 with franco-7 kernel and this is still present. Framerate is even higher now (with frame limiter off, ofcourse) due to the 400 Mhz GPU clock, but it still stutters. This didn't happen on GTA 3 v1.0 when I first tried it when it came out. It could be GTA's fault and not the phone's.
It does this no matter the graphics settings. Even on lowest resolution and view distance and everything else off...
Thanks for the help.
I haven't been playing all that much, but I definitely have had some hangups too, about 0.3-0.5 seconds long.
I assume this is GTA related problems, some caching might be done in the main thread only when certain models/textures are needed, causing the lags. I played several HD games, and others seem to be better at smooth performance.
I had the same problem initially. It would pause for a split second every once in awhile.
Inadvertently because I had just got my phone and was just testing - I had to reinstall and it seemed to run perfectly. I don't know if it's a different version/update (how do you tell?) but I believe it was GTA Anniversary Edition 1.03
Yeah mines the same hangs for a split second maybe once every half hour or something. Not a major issue, its never really bothered me with it not happening very often.
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you need to uncheck something from graphic setting mate. if i remember well was lowering viewing distance or something like that... it worked for me after.give it a shot.
I have a problem where it vibrates randomly... Any ideas
No one encountered this?
Yeah, vibrates randomly for me too.
I don't know about the stutter. Don't think this is the phone. It used to run nice and now, despite the good framerate it stutters like mad. Really annoying. Or maybe the borked something in the latest update (v1.3).
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I have a problem where it vibrates randomly... Any ideas
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Try turning vibration feedback off. Its in options>audio>vibration feedback.
I made it much smoother by unselecting the Max frame rate option I believe, I also installed chainfires 3d app so that may have also contributed.
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Any particular settings for Chainfire 3D?
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Hi guys,
Not sure it was there when I got my 32Gb Note 10.1 or not. I updated it to the latest software version early on. I don't have that many apps installed on it and only a couple of widgets on the desktop. The scroll stutters at times when I start scrolling: it starts off fine, then stutters for a short time, almost like a single hick up, and then continues just fine. It's doesn't happen 100% of the time but is more consistent as of late. I observed it going from screen to screen and in the main browsers scrolling through the page. I restarted the tab, closed running apps/services, which made no difference.
Has anyone noticed anything similar to that? Does that sound like a normal behavior? Have had a few Android phones before but this is my 1st Android tab so not sure what level of performance I should expect. Thanks!
Have not experienced any stuttering. The only time I have noticed the SGN10.1 stuttering is when drawing shapes in s.note. then it can get a little bogged down.
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Try going to settings, developer, and under window and transition animations. Try setting to.5 or zero.
That should fix it.
I was using HD Widgets and had a 8x1 clock/weather widget on my first home page. I was playing with the stock clock/weather widget and by removing the HD Widget's clock the stuttering improved a lot. I'm still using it for some toggles and that seems fine. If anyone is using HD Widgets you can remove the widgets you're not actively using and that seems to speed things up too.
i have a 3 day old 16gb wifi gnote. my experience with stuttering has been unmistakable in 2 places: general system animations (moving between screens or opening settings for example) and a laggy stock browser.
when i swipe home screens, i get similar stutters as the OP. so i went ahead and cleaned up all the stock (bloatware) widgets... hardly a solution but i hope it isnt a problem when i do install useful widgets soon.. someone suggested reducing animations to 0.5x or 0. well thats really sad for a higher end tablet i think. similar stuttering scrolls in gmail and play store.
with the browser, i usually get stutters when scrolling a fairly heavy page. the most annoying thing is that if there are many images on a page, the browser blanks them out when scrolling and then redraws them at the end of scrolling! so i simply installed chrome instead... and thats working better
i also tried this game called wind up knight just to see some 3d action... there too the stutter was quite obvious.
im not blown away by the quad core awesomeness out-of-the-box i must say. i think my 2 year old HTC HD2 (1ghz single core) is generally faster at running ics. i hope custom roms are able to better harness the hardware...
forgot to mention that i am running the old UEALGB rom
tonyz3 said:
Try going to settings, developer, and under window and transition animations. Try setting to.5 or zero.
That should fix it.
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So what exactly does this do?
I am on my second g note. Got rid of the 16 GBP for the 32. The only thing I have done on both was got rid of the widgets it came in stalled with and adj the settings and it flies like butter.
Someone else mentioned the power saver mode. Check that it is not on.
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I am on my second g note. Got rid of the 16 GBP for the 32. The only thing I have done on both was got rid of the widgets it came in stalled with and adj the settings and it flies like butter.
Someone else mentioned the power saver mode. Check that it is not on.
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No power savings mode. I suspect some of you just not noticing it. I do have an eye for those kind of things though.
i didnt have my power saving mode on... the problem became extremely irritating with that feature on...
however i did restart my tablet and that did solve almost all my worries! i too now have a "buttery smooth" tablet before restart, my ram usage was around 1.4gb and i suspect around 70+ active apps in memory. after restart, my ram usage was 0.4gb and all the lags and stutters went away! so one possible solution could be for you to go to task manager and clean out active apps from memory. then check if there is any stutter in general usage. hope this helps!
ps: i did clean out all my home screen bloat widgets. so i really cant say how smoothly they will scroll after cleaning out the ram.
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No power savings mode. I suspect some of you just not noticing it. I do have an eye for those kind of things though.
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I think anyone who comes to this site for info knows what lag is and looks like.:cyclops:
Not denying that there are some defective units, as with any thing to buy there will be some.
We are just trying to offer solutions.
tonyz3 said:
I think anyone who comes to this site for info knows what lag is and looks like.:cyclops:
Not denying that there are some defective units, as with any thing to buy there will be some.
We are just trying to offer solutions.
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Sorry, didn't mean to imply anything. I do appreciate all the help and feedback from all xda members.
I was just basically reflecting on my nature and the fact that I do tend to concentrate on details sometimes. So, my point was that there may or may not be lag there and perhaps I'm just "seeing" things. I have a good eye for these things in general, so assuming lag or more like stutter is there, the next question is whether that's something particular to my tab or others are seeing it too. If later is the case than it could be software and/or hardware issue. I thought the specs this thing packing it should have no problems scrolling silky smooth. Don't wanna jump to any conclusions just yet though...
Tried reducing animation scale but it made little difference. Wondering, just for comparison, has anyone seen Note 10.1 scrolling videos posted out there?
Thanks!
I agree it does stutter slightly. If you are reading an article and are scrolling down as you read, its not smooth. Hopefully they will fix it.
Sparksltd said:
I agree it does stutter slightly. If you are reading an article and are scrolling down as you read, its not smooth. Hopefully they will fix it.
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Thanks for sharing! Anybody else ran into this as well?
Actually, now that you mention it...
When i first received the tablet, i noticed the lag swiping from screen to screen. I shut it off after about 15 minutes, to charge the battery faster when the unit is off. After rebooting, i noticed it seemed to go much faster....
Also, after installing the update (which may or may not be available anymore) my overall smoothness went up about 100%, something i noticed immediately.
Doesn't stutter for me anymore, unless i have power saver mode on and really pushing it. Asphalt 7 (looks somewhat hi-tech 3d graphics, maybe not) runs exceptionally well, so i am not sure i'm getting the lag anymore. Maybe this is what some of the reviewers saw at first, while doing their first 15 minute review?
I can't complain anymore because it seems to be fine on mine, with the exception of this XDA app
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Sorry, didn't mean to imply anything. I do appreciate all the help and feedback from all xda members.
I was just basically reflecting on my nature and the fact that I do tend to concentrate on details sometimes. So, my point was that there may or may not be lag there and perhaps I'm just "seeing" things. I have a good eye for these things in general, so assuming lag or more like stutter is there, the next question is whether that's something particular to my tab or others are seeing it too. If later is the case than it could be software and/or hardware issue. I thought the specs this thing packing it should have no problems scrolling silky smooth. Don't wanna jump to any conclusions just yet though...
Tried reducing animation scale but it made little difference. Wondering, just for comparison, has anyone seen Note 10.1 scrolling videos posted out there?
Thanks!
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Once the jelly bean update finally comes around I am sure it will get smoother.
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Trying to get a sense if this is a widespread issue with almost every GNote or with just a small number of tabs. If first is the case then it can probably/likely be addressed via some software update. But if it's a later case then exchange is in order. I have no way of reliably validating it so I'll probably gonna go for an exchange early next week.
Anyone has some Samsung feedback linky handy, other than FB, by any chance? Thanks.
Not to hijack my one thread... but I have a new problem develop last night: some parts of the screen, left side in particular, in the standard browser weren't responding to touch/clicks. Tried clearing out all apps, restarting the browser, etc. Didn't help much. Seems to be better. Not sure what's going on.
Ive ran a benchmark to see where it sits and it seems to sit right above the prime. this tab has been quite choppy and laggy on apps that i feel should be handled smoothly by the tegra 3. my galaxy s3 performs significantly better than this and its only got the s4 chip. im tryingto figure out if i just have a bad tab off the press and this is not what i should be experiencing.
does anyone know of any tools to do any kind of hardware tests or other tests to determine whether or not this is internally broken or im just expecting more from this tab.
examples of lags: games that should smooth with a consistent frame rate are choppy and frame rate is low, typing on office pro is terribly lagged and have to wait to make sure i spelled things out correctly. i really just hope this is a bad tab so i can just switch it out.
any input relevant to figuring this problem out is appreciated.
thank.s
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Ive ran a benchmark to see where it sits and it seems to sit right above the prime. this tab has been quite choppy and laggy on apps that i feel should be handled smoothly by the tegra 3. my galaxy s3 performs significantly better than this and its only got the s4 chip. im tryingto figure out if i just have a bad tab off the press and this is not what i should be experiencing.
does anyone know of any tools to do any kind of hardware tests or other tests to determine whether or not this is internally broken or im just expecting more from this tab.
examples of lags: games that should smooth with a consistent frame rate are choppy and frame rate is low, typing on office pro is terribly lagged and have to wait to make sure i spelled things out correctly. i really just hope this is a bad tab so i can just switch it out.
any input relevant to figuring this problem out is appreciated.
thank.s
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Something you might want to try is in Developer Options, eith turn off animation or reset all animation settings to .5 (default is 1.0). This seems to help with lag. There are some other tweaks you can do, especially if you root. Rooting is reversable. Just unlocking bootloader isn't so make sure you really want to keep your TF700 before you unlock. Read up on what's possible...there are quite a few stickied threads relating to your question.
i have it rooted and ive already changed the transitioning to .5 and ive even toggled 2d rendering from the gpu. im very familiar with android so if you have any other tips that involve a rooted device would help.
thanks
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i have it rooted and ive already changed the transitioning to .5 and ive even toggled 2d rendering from the gpu. im very familiar with android so if you have any other tips that involve a rooted device would help.
thanks
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You may not want to force gpu rendering all the time, just for some things--like it does help with scrolling through Netflicks--but I think it's a drag on performance in other ways. Just experiment and see what works. If you go into the Development section, there are quite a few tweaks to try out. I really think that our best bet is either through custom roms and the tweaks they contain, or with updated (read Jelly Bean) firmware. I also scrupulously clear out my recent apps, unless I need to go back and forth between apps (multitasking, android style). That frees up a lot of ram.
Good Morning all.
I bought the TF700 to try gaming on a full HD tregra 3 device, and what better tablet than this one. I knew ahead of time that the resolution and dpi was going to pull gaming down a bit.
I downloaded Horn yesterday and played a few hours, and overall the game is great, but it lags noticeably. In many places the fps look very low and goes beyond my confort. I mainly use this tablet to read and its my overall media device.
What do you guys think. Is there anything I can do to improve gaming? I'm a bit jealous because the nexus 7 and HOX guys are all saying how good it is in their devices. But I really like this tablet and want to keep it.
Any input would be great guys, thaks.
PS. I'm full stock, havent messed with it yet.
rcarbal said:
Good Morning all.
I bought the TF700 to try gaming on a full HD tregra 3 device, and what better tablet than this one. I knew ahead of time that the resolution and dpi was going to pull gaming down a bit.
I downloaded Horn yesterday and played a few hours, and overall the game is great, but it lags noticeably. In many places the fps look very low and goes beyond my confort. I mainly use this tablet to read and its my overall media device.
What do you guys think. Is there anything I can do to improve gaming? I'm a bit jealous because the nexus 7 and HOX guys are all saying how good it is in their devices. But I really like this tablet and want to keep it.
Any input would be great guys, thaks.
PS. I'm full stock, havent messed with it yet.
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Try rooting and debloating...
... we will need to get more custom ROM work going, ASUS stock is just a mish-mosh of dirty hax and yucky code.
rcarbal said:
Good Morning all.
I bought the TF700 to try gaming on a full HD tregra 3 device, and what better tablet than this one. I knew ahead of time that the resolution and dpi was going to pull gaming down a bit.
I downloaded Horn yesterday and played a few hours, and overall the game is great, but it lags noticeably. In many places the fps look very low and goes beyond my confort. I mainly use this tablet to read and its my overall media device.
What do you guys think. Is there anything I can do to improve gaming? I'm a bit jealous because the nexus 7 and HOX guys are all saying how good it is in their devices. But I really like this tablet and want to keep it.
Any input would be great guys, thaks.
PS. I'm full stock, havent messed with it yet.
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I don't know about that game at all. You could try force 2d rendering in the developers section of settings. May help with lag, other than trying performance setting.
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I don't know about that game at all. You could try force 2d rendering in the developers section of settings. May help with lag, other than trying performance setting.
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It just came out yesterday, but it has not settings I can play with. Will sit tight for a while and see how far we can take this tablet. I will try root and debloat and go from there.
You can also install a program that allows you to change the cpu governor like SetCPU. When I have plenty of power I set it to performance for a smoother experience. Once we have an overclockable kernel I suspect this device will fly even moreso. They were able to get the T30L to 2 Ghz, our T33 might be pushed further than that
Plz dont trick people if you dont know.
Tegra3 's GPU is not powerful enough(only 12 cuba units......too weak...), in other words, Horn 's graph is the best we can have. Laggy is not a problem beccause of 1080p res.
There's nothing else we can do ,(BTW, overclocking is not working here)
We can wait for the next version of Horn which may lower some physic and shadow effects to improve the performance.
Are you sure your tablet is running in "performance" mode rather than the "balance" mode that it starts in on bootup?
I ran the game for hours flawlessly ...
I restarted it many times and it always boots in balance. I will try to chane it to boot in performance mode. Im sure theres and option for this. I'll update if all the above help.
oh, I always kill all tasks before palying high graphics games using asus task manager.
Thanks
Yea i get this lag too with the game. I used system tuner pro to set the CPUs to a solid 1.6 and still saw the lag or FPS drop.
So I purchased the game also, and the game would start to load and then music would play with a blank screen, then cut out.... anyone else having this problem???
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Is this game optimized for the screen resolution of the TF700? Anyone own a prime still that can compare how it runs on both systems? The extra resolution might be enough to cause some playing issues. Maybe the same issues are present in the lower resolution devices but it's harder to notice.
i will also test this game out with the tf300 my brother has. I want to know if tf700 can play it better because...ahem.. the devs of horn told ipad 2s and 3 people . "it's much easier on the tegra... nvidia really knows their physics.." and basically no can do, when they raged about tegra effects. So I wanted to know how this tablet would handle it. SO, ill keep trying.
I listen to allot of online radio eg 'tunein' and mp3 stored on my phone, problem is that this phone plays back audio choppy when the screen times out.
This happeneds esspecially when streaming audio - its intermittent with mp3s..I have had allot of phone and Ive never ever had this kinda problem before...
Im rooted and have played with the stock kernel settings abit but have no change in behavior,.. Anyone know what I can do here? I hate to have one of the most advanced unusable phones ever
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I listen to allot of online radio eg 'tunein' and mp3 stored on my phone, problem is that this phone plays back audio choppy when the screen times out.
This happeneds esspecially when streaming audio - its intermittent with mp3s..I have had allot of phone and Ive never ever had this kinda problem before...
Im rooted and have played with the stock kernel settings abit but have no change in behavior,.. Anyone know what I can do here? I hate to have one of the most advanced unusable phones ever
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When I was on my Note 2 I had to increase the low end on the cpu speed. I think the Lowest I could use was 400 to 500 (sleep mode) I own the setcpu pro app so it was easy to adjust. Give that a look see. Every time the screen went off while Bluetooth was on it would skip and shutter. I noticed today my Edge seems to have the same problem.
Charles
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When I was on my Note 2 I had to increase the low end on the cpu speed. I think the Lowest I could use was 400 to 500 (sleep mode) I own the setcpu pro app so it was easy to adjust. Give that a look see. Every time the screen went off while Bluetooth was on it would skip and shutter. I noticed today my Edge seems to have the same problem.
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Hey, you too eh? hmm,.. I tried raising the cpu limit with no change,.. mine does stay awake on bluetooth only... anywho, there is not much I can do with the stock kernel., I tried just about everything, scripts, build hacks,.. no I noticed that Wifi does not stay connected and only gets max 3mps - Ive been thru 2 phones and this Canadian version is buggy, have no problems with my note 3 or my LG , wish I could figure all this out. or wait for a custom rom/kernel for my variant
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I listen to allot of online radio eg 'tunein' and mp3 stored on my phone, problem is that this phone plays back audio choppy when the screen times out.
This happeneds esspecially when streaming audio - its intermittent with mp3s..I have had allot of phone and Ive never ever had this kinda problem before...
Im rooted and have played with the stock kernel settings abit but have no change in behavior,.. Anyone know what I can do here? I hate to have one of the most advanced unusable phones ever
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Make sure power saving mode is off if not try turning that off and it may resolve the issue.
Also like in one of my previous posts on my device anyway I've been experiencing what I'd describe as antenna issues. Both wifi drops and blue tooth cuts in and out. Doesn't matter if the screen is on or off for me
when I experience these issues.
So have used the nexus 5, note 4 and nexus 6. I am now on the one plus and have literally tried every rom and kernel but cannot stop the choppy screen lag. Having used the other devices above I have a very good idea of the problem here because the one plus is the only handset out of the handsets I have mentioned above that suffers the problem.
This is more evident for me when am using talon for Twitter and this is when I am able to see just how much the handset lags. I have tried all kernels and different roms but it's the same. Any advice please on how to prevent this?. Even the nexus 5 which has only 2gb of ram, is lag free so at loss at how the oneplus with more ram struggles.
Only real way to test is go back to stock cm11s and see if you still have this lag. My device has no lag so maybe something on you're SD? Format/back to stock and try.
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The screen has low Hz (update freq) which makes seem more choppy, I guess. My girl has htc m8 and its waaay more smooth.