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I just bought one at Walmart yesterday and was going to decide whether or not to give it to my wife or keep it and give her the G2X. Needless to say, I can't do anything with it. After playing with it for 30 minutes it got hotter than any other phone I've ever used and then froze. After a reboot it worked for about 15 minutes and the second I opened up the market app it rebooted itself. I called T-Mobile and they can't do anything until the phone is officially released and Wal-Mart doesn't have anymore in stock since they only got 2 to begin with. All of the other local Wal-Marts didn't get any in. My only option is to return it for my money back which I will be doing tomorrow. In the end, I was lucky enough to get a G2X with no bugs but not lucky enough to get a Sensation with none.
G2X - 1
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Side note: In the 30 minutes I had to play with the Sensation, I already figured out I would have been giving it to my wife. It is not as fast as the G2X and it's clear that Sense 3.0 is bogging it down. The internet browser is also no where near as fast as the G2X. Don't get me wrong, it will be a good upgrade from her MyTouch Slide but it's not a upgrade to the G2X (if you got one without bugs).
I've been using a Sensation for two days now and I have yet to have any bugs. My only complaint is the bluetooth voice dialing doesn't work natively and the internet seems to run a little slower than the G2X. But I have found it is definitely much more stable out of the box than the G2X. I have had the phone running now for 2 days without any issues. When I bought the G2X my phone had already rebooted a few times in that same amount of time.
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I've been using a Sensation for two days now and I have yet to have any bugs. My only complaint is the bluetooth voice dialing doesn't work natively and the internet seems to run a little slower than the G2X. But I have found it is definitely much more stable out of the box than the G2X. I have had the phone running now for 2 days without any issues. When I bought the G2X my phone had already rebooted a few times in that same amount of time.
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Well hopefully the next one I buy is big free. I've been reading over the Sensation forum the past couple of days and it looks like I'm not the only one with major issues. Like I said, I was lucky enough to get a working G2X. Guess you were just lucky enough to get a working Sensation.
Whats your take on the speed of the device? I definitely noticed lag in the UI and it was noticeably slower than the G2X. I didn't get a chance to play any games before mine locked up but I would like to know how it performs in that area. I don't expect the Snapdraggon to perform as well as the Tegra II since it is built off of the old A8 architecture while the Tegra II is built on the new A9 but I would like my wife to be able to play her games with no stutter. Have you played any games on it and if so which ones and how did they perform?
Well for now...I love my g2x....I will get the sensation when its well mature in the scene...the g2x still young...
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Hello, good to knoe man. I have been really happy with my phone.
On a side note, you should probably change the title. Is a little misleading. I actually thought you meant that Sensation was less buggy.
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Well hopefully the next one I buy is big free. I've been reading over the Sensation forum the past couple of days and it looks like I'm not the only one with major issues. Like I said, I was lucky enough to get a working G2X. Guess you were just lucky enough to get a working Sensation.
Whats your take on the speed of the device? I definitely noticed lag in the UI and it was noticeably slower than the G2X. I didn't get a chance to play any games before mine locked up but I would like to know how it performs in that area. I don't expect the Snapdraggon to perform as well as the Tegra II since it is built off of the old A8 architecture while the Tegra II is built on the new A9 but I would like my wife to be able to play her games with no stutter. Have you played any games on it and if so which ones and how did they perform?
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I haven't really seen a lot of major issues being posted over on the Sensation forums. The bug threads that I've seen have only had minor things in it. Anyways, to answer your question I don't notice any lag. What I did notice is that there are a lot more animations on the Sensation than on the G2X. Those animations make the phone feel slower than the G2X. For example when you press the home button, the fade in animation that takes you to the home screen is slower than the quick little effect that happens when you press the home button on the G2X. I changed my animation setting on my Sensation to "some animations" so that I didn't have as much eye candy and had a little bit better speed. I noticed when I set it to "no animations" I didn't see any difference between it and the G2X. I put up a thread with a bit more of an in depth comparison between the two phones. Check it out, perhaps it may be of some help for you.
As for gaming, I've yet to do any real 3d gaming besides Nova (which ran perfectly fine).
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I haven't really seen a lot of major issues being posted over on the Sensation forums. The bug threads that I've seen have only had minor things in it. Anyways, to answer your question I don't notice any lag. What I did notice is that there are a lot more animations on the Sensation than on the G2X. Those animations make the phone feel slower than the G2X. For example when you press the home button, the fade in animation that takes you to the home screen is slower than the quick little effect that happens when you press the home button on the G2X. I changed my animation setting on my Sensation to "some animations" so that I didn't have as much eye candy and had a little bit better speed. I noticed when I set it to "no animations" I didn't see any difference between it and the G2X. I put up a thread with a bit more of an in depth comparison between the two phones. Check it out, perhaps it may be of some help for you.
As for gaming, I've yet to do any real 3d gaming besides Nova (which ran perfectly fine).
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As for the major bugs I have read about in multiple forums, they are as fallows:
Display has a yellowish tint
Rebooting
Freezing
Locking up when using the camera
Getting hot
Wifi and Cell signal dropping when holding the phone in landscape
During some games you get screen tearing
From my 30 minute experience I thought the display looked good. I didn't have the yellowish tint. As for the other bugs, the only one I experienced was the locking up, getting hot and rebooting. I didn't get a chance to use the camera or use the phone in landscape. I will test all of these things when I get it but the signal degradation seems to be pretty major. There a thread dedicated to it on there forums and also a blog entry about it on GSM Arena.
I'm aware of GSM Arena article..they have a thread about it in the Sensation forum...but also in the same thread nobody is really having that issue, and I haven't been able to replicate it either. All in all I think it's safe to say that the G2X definitely has more issues than the Sensation. They may eventually get fixed but as it stands now, it has more issues. In the same two days I've been experimenting with the Sensation, my G2X has reboot itself a few times..and I won't get into the battery life lol.
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As for the major bugs I have read about in multiple forums, they are as fallows:
Display has a yellowish tint
Rebooting
Freezing
Locking up when using the camera
Getting hot
Wifi and Cell signal dropping when holding the phone in landscape
During some games you get screen tearing
From my 30 minute experience I thought the display looked good. I didn't have the yellowish tint. As for the other bugs, the only one I experienced was the locking up, getting hot and rebooting. I didn't get a chance to use the camera or use the phone in landscape. I will test all of these things when I get it but the signal degradation seems to be pretty major. There a thread dedicated to it on there forums and also a blog entry about it on GSM Arena.
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Actually in the Sensation forum multiple people have also stated that they are getting dust particles under their screen. To me that is a really huge problem.
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Actually in the Sensation forum multiple people have also stated that they are getting dust particles under their screen. To me that is a really huge problem.
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I had this happen on 3 of my Nexus Ones. I dunno what the hell HTC is doing, but something isn't right.
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I'm aware of GSM Arena article..they have a thread about it in the Sensation forum...but also in the same thread nobody is really having that issue, and I haven't been able to replicate it either. All in all I think it's safe to say that the G2X definitely has more issues than the Sensation. They may eventually get fixed but as it stands now, it has more issues. In the same two days I've been experimenting with the Sensation, my G2X has reboot itself a few times..and I won't get into the battery life lol.
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I read your comparison thread over in the Sensation forum and thought it was very well written.
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I read your comparison thread over in the Sensation forum and thought it was very well written.
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Thanks
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I'm aware of GSM Arena article..they have a thread about it in the Sensation forum...but also in the same thread nobody is really having that issue, and I haven't been able to replicate it either. All in all I think it's safe to say that the G2X definitely has more issues than the Sensation. They may eventually get fixed but as it stands now, it has more issues. In the same two days I've been experimenting with the Sensation, my G2X has reboot itself a few times..and I won't get into the battery life lol.
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I don't know what thread you read but people are definitely experiencing the issue..the sensation looks great but imo it looks to have just as many issues and has yet to be mass released yet...
My gf has the HTC aria from at&t and it has voice search but it doesn't work with voice dialing. If you say "call wife mobile" on her phone, it just does a Google search.
It does know map and text I believe but I think it's just a sense thing.
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player911 said:
My gf has the HTC aria from at&t and it has voice search but it doesn't work with voice dialing. If you say "call wife mobile" on her phone, it just does a Google search.
It does know map and text I believe but I think it's just a sense thing.
LG G2x CM7 2.3.4
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Try this on her phone. It sounds like the same thing. It's stupid that HTC left it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117912
My Incredible is currently on its last leg...random reboots/shutdowns and I'm outside the warranty. I'm currently rooted, running CM7 and I love it (CM7 and my Inc). I don't flash roms everyday or even every week (really haven't changed since moving to CM) but I like having the flexibility to do so if I want. So the question is do I go with the Thunderbolt or the Incredible 2?
The 4G on the Thunderbolt would just be added feature to me...nothing I need. I looked at the Thunderbolt yesterday and it seemed bulky compared to my current Inc; before that I was set to buy the Thunderbolt. So now I'm struggling...do I get the Thunderbolt that has root or get the Inc2, which I like size wise but only has temp root (and hope full root comes along)?
Question: Rooted Thunderbolt or Temp Root (for now) Incredible 2?
Rooted/Unrooted shouldn't be an issue.. the Inc2 will have stable root for sure.
I am myself coming from the incredible.. (which too I loved).. but I don't regret going over to the TB. The TB looks damn good.. better than the incredible in my opinion.
The extra real estate comes in handy quite a bit when you are browsing or when you are typing.
4G is a HUGE factor for me. Now that I have 4G all around my area.. I can't imagine going back to 3G. Market updates on the go are a lot faster.. downloads are a lot faster and apps that depend on the internet are a lot snappier..... plus the fact that VZW is offering unlimited 4G for 29.99 sweetens the deal.. (not sure if that offer will last for long though).
The bulk factor of the TB that you are talking about..is something you'll get used to within a few days.. so it really is no biggie.. but of course it feels builky to you now because it is new... and you are still using your incredible... But trust me.. after a few days.. it'll feel right.
Thanks for the quick response. I really have been trying not to factor root into the equation. Are there stability issues with the TB? I've been reading the TB forums for a week, since I decided I needed a new phone, and it seems like there might be issues. I also asked some friends at Verizon what their thoughts were and they pretty much told me to steer clear of the TB for now due to buginess...has that been your experience? I don't expect to have some of the problems they mentioned since it most likely wouldn't stay stock for too long.
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Thanks for the quick response. I really have been trying not to factor root into the equation. Are there stability issues with the TB? I've been reading the TB forums for a week, since I decided I needed a new phone, and it seems like there might be issues. I also asked some friends at Verizon what their thoughts were and they pretty much told me to steer clear of the TB for now due to buginess...has that been your experience? I don't expect to have some of the problems they mentioned since it most likely wouldn't stay stock for too long.
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It depends on what you are running. The latest MR2 has been as stable as a ROM could be... battery life even with 4G is pretty decent... no random reboots.. 4G to 3G exchange is seamless.. and over all it is pretty stable.
Gingerbread on the other hand has memory issues, battery issues etc.. though over all it IS kinda stable with the newer radio..
I don't think the leaked GB RUU is as stable or efficient as the latest FRoyo.. and most of them out there are running GB mainly because of the sense 3.0 lockscreen and weather aspects that have been cooked into it (they ARE pretty cool).. but honestly for me.. the stock MR2 Froyo is rock solid and unbeatable.. and I can easily wait until a better GB RUU is dropped.
You have 2 weeks to try out a new phone anyways.. so get yourself a TB.. root it.. install the MR2 stock.. and see how you like it..
If you don't.. then return it back to stock and exchange your phone for something you'll like better.
Another thing that a lot of people don't really mention but has a huge impact on how you use your phone. 4g allows you to browse the internet, recieve emails, texts etc while youre talking on it. Kind of nice in some situations. I take full advantage of it.
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Another thing that a lot of people don't really mention but has a huge impact on how you use your phone. 4g allows you to browse the internet, recieve emails, texts etc while youre talking on it. Kind of nice in some situations. I take full advantage of it.
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excellent point.. but I believe it is possible only on 3G with the Thunderbolt (correct me if I am wrong).
kriskmk said:
You have 2 weeks to try out a new phone anyways.. so get yourself a TB.. root it.. install the MR2 stock.. and see how you like it..
If you don't.. then return it back to stock and exchange your phone for something you'll like better.
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That is what I thought as well...think I'm leaning that direction at this point.
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Another thing that a lot of people don't really mention but has a huge impact on how you use your phone. 4g allows you to browse the internet, recieve emails, texts etc while youre talking on it. Kind of nice in some situations. I take full advantage of it.
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I didn't think about that...good point. 4G might be a selling point for me after all.
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I didn't think about that...good point. 4G might be a selling point for me after all.
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Once you experience 4G .. you wouldn't wanna go back to 3G.. plus the fact that you are getting 4G for the same price from VZW (cheapest in the industry at the moment).. is too good a deal to pass over.
Also factor in the fact the verizon's LTE network.. is wayyy better than sprints WiMax's or AT&T (infact ATT even released a statement that their 4G is not as advanced as Verizon's).
I have the Tbolt and my son has the Inc2. Both have been kept stock (no rooting/roms/etc) and neither one of us have experienced any of the problems that others complain about in the forums, with one exception. Both of have occasional problems syncing multiple email accounts. We live in an area with excellent signal coverage so I don't think that is the issue.
I liked the (slightly) smaller size of the Inc2 better (coming from an Imagio) but have gotten used to the Tbolt. I now prefer the larger screen since it is a bit easier on my eyes. Both phone screens are clear and bright. The on-screen keyboard is easier (for my fat fingers) to use on the Tbolt since it is a bit larger.
The external buttons on the Inc2 are better. The ones on the Tbolt feel mushy but work ok.
Speed of the apps on both seems similar. There is, of course, a bigger memory card on the Tbolt.
Inc2 is global, Tbolt is not so if you travel out of country a lot that might be a consideration.
We live in a 4g area so we can compare network speeds. This is where the huge difference is. The Tbolt download speeds on 4g typically run at 20 to 35 mbps. The best the Inc2 (3g) gets is 2.5 mbps. We can download the same program at the same time, and I will be downloaded, installed, and playing long before my son is finished downloading. I didn't think I would care that much but the Tbolt is a real pleasure in that regard. Unfortunately battery life on the Tbolt is somewhat worse as a result. The Inc2 will consistently go the whole day without charging. The Tbolt seems to be much more random, sometimes getting through the day (16-18 hrs), sometimes half that even though my usage is fairly consistent from day to day. I've disabled/changed settings on all the usual suspects without much effect.
Call quality, bluetooth, speakerphone, and voice commands are very good on both phones. Cameras work well on both.
All things considered, I do not regret getting the Tbolt and probably would again, even though the battery life is not the best. The only thing my son would change about his Inc2 is the lack of 4g. Otherwise he loves it.
Thanks for the comparison...it sounds like the TB size is something I could get use to. I think I'm leaning back towards the TB at this point.
I wanna know what people love about the thunderbolt the phone doesn't do that many things a lot of apps don't work on it. Like netflix for one. I just wanna know what makes this phone so good and it can't be 4g because every new phones is harnessing the 4G speed.
Rooted has netflix
Next app that doesn't work please.
I came from a DINC, truth is I miss it. But there hasn't been a single app I can't run on my rooted bolt. And Verizon 4g is fast. I regularly see 25+ download speeds. The ONLY downside for me has been the battery life.
courtesy of my rooted bolt
Besides battery life, which can be fixed if you just quit constantly playing with the phone and a nice undervolted kernel, everything. Developer support is best among 4g phones out, build quality is great and the phone works great. I get great reception where most phones drop calls. All in all its bad ass. There will always be better phones on the horizon, but its pretty damn tight, all things considered. I've never run into app problems- check ur sources on that. Netflix only works on Ginger bread, so root and rom that ***** and all problems go away, including battery life problems.
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You come here and say that netflix doesn't work on stock phones. You forget youre on xda? Very few people are still on froyo roms which don't run netflix. Which apps were you referring to that can't be run?
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there's only a handful of phones on verizon that have 4G and if you like sense... then the thunderbolt is your only option.
now if a pure google 4G phone was on verizon.... i may switch depending on the manufacture.
It does my dishes.
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Fast processor, plenty of RAM, big screen, Sense, decent battery life if you know what your doing (all 4g phones probably get crap battery life. My friends charge is about the same as my tbolt if not worse)
Who the cares about no netflix? Why would you want to watch movies and tv shows on a 4.3" screen and drain the hell out of your battery? Sure its probably nice to have if your bored, but is it that big of a deal? Besides, if we ever get GB we will get netflix and Skype. If we don't, root. Also, every app I've downloaded to this phone has worked. Sure there might be some bugs, but its a newer phone. Takes time to work kinks out on apps for newer devices.
It's a good phones.
/rant
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stock, it'll handle whatever you throw at it or die trying. With the extended battery, it's an unstoppable force
bthomp21 said:
It does my dishes.
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And it makes bacon. Everything is better with bacon.
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And it makes bacon. Everything is better with bacon.
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True story.
Really tho this phone does run really smooth and has been great for me. I havent found an app yet that it won't run.
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what's so good: it's the best 4G option for Verizon right now
until the Bionic. maybe even after the Bionic. time will tell.
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stock, it'll handle whatever you throw at it or die trying. With the extended battery, it's an unstoppable force
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haha i actually laughed out loud
What I like about the TBolt is the speed , 4G , and more ram and memory than you will ever need.
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I also love the fact that it is the only Verizon phone with dual antennas, thus allowing data + voice simultaneously. I just like rubbing it in AT&T fan-boys' faces..
Having come from an Incredible to the Thunderbolt, the pro's are:
- Dual antennas (data/talk simultaneously)
- Larger screen (great for everything - videos, web pages, reading)
- Kickstand (can be so useful)
- Front camera (video skype works well even over 3g)
- 4G (duh)
Personally I like it for the 4G which is a big deal to me, and may not be a big deal to other people. I move around a lot so having fast mobile uncapped internet is key, so I don't have to constantly be signing new land internet contracts.
It's unfortunate that marketers are abusing the term "4G", because they are spreading a lot of ignorance. The fact is that non-Verizon 4G networks are at best about a quarter of the speed Verizon's LTE network is. Straight up facts. "4G" is not a specification, or specific SLA, so you can call just about anything a 4G network. You could call a 3G network a 4G network. You'd probably get sued by the other carriers, but you would have solid defenses in court.
So, if you want fast mobile internet Verizon is just about the only option until AT&T's HSPA+ really starts growing in speed and deployment which will take a while.
There are 3 Verizon 4G LTE phones readily available during the unlimited data period, the TB, Charge and Revolution. TB got best reviews of the three and for good reasons, I believe. So, I love my TB and I'm glad it's the phone I got.
The thing I like most is the screen and general ergonomics. For such a large phone with such a large screen, it fits in my (somewhat small) hand very nicely. As a result, the large screen puts the web browsing experience on this phone miles ahead of anything else I have played with - I grab this over my iPad (iCoaster, really) for couch browsing every time.
The 8MP camera is the best low-light camera (without the flash) on a phone so far and the double flash is actually bright enough to make a difference indoors (and makes a great flashlight).
Then there is the speed. I swear this phone is faster than my netbook - nothing seems to bog it down. Need to run navigation, WiFi tether, weather radar and Pandora while talking to your mom? No problem for this phone. I also love that it has enough memory where I can leave games and apps open all day without the OS closing them. Coming from the Eris, the speed is the biggest perk I think, as the Eris would barely run Navigation and do anything else at the same time. If the comparisons between the Atrix are any indication of how the Bionic will stack up, the Thunderbolt will still be faster.
Other than the Evo 3D, which just looks awesome (and is on a lesser network), the TB is not only the best currently available smart phone, it will continue to be for at least the rest of the summer.
You actually can get netflix without rooting, theres a cracked app, (i think it still works) or root it and use the app.
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Mine holds me tight when I'm lonely, and it walks my dog...
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T-Mobile gave me one of these to replace my faulty MyTouch 4G because they claimed to be out of stock. How do you guys put up with the constant freezing, slow performance, home screen reloads, no camera flash, no track pad and no support from cyanogen? This phone feels 3 generations behind my MyTouch. The screen is the only thing that's better, but it's nearly useless because the phone is so pathetic otherwise.
Fwiw, I'm running ICBINB, and, well, I sure as hell CAN believe it's not butter! The theme I loaded over it has blacked out all text on my menu pop ups too, making them impossible to read.
What a disappointment. I don't understand why those of you who had a choice actually intentionally selected this phone. This is a sad day for me.
Get out of this forum
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Get out of this forum
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? Why? Did I post this in the wrong section or something? It sounds to me like you're in denial. If you were truly happy with your phone and found no truth in what I've said you would've just laughed to yourself and ignored this thread. But that's not what happened.
Samsung does suck when it's full stock with no mods, but it's very wrong of you to to criticize the hard work of our developers like that. ICBINB is an excellent ROM and the theme is still being worked on by the developers. It's stuff like that which made great developers like krylon360 leave xda. Honestly, I've tried the stock MT4G and the difference isn't that much.
I'm not from the MT4G forum, so I wouldn't know when they got Cyanogen support, but judging this phone just from its lack of it is quite wrong of you. Keep in mind that the SGS4G did get released much later than the MT4G as well. Krylon360 is currently working on CM7 for the SGS4G as well.
I must agree with jager55. If you really think the phone is that bad, you can always exchange it.
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T-Mobile gave me one of these to replace my faulty MyTouch 4G because they claimed to be out of stock. How do you guys put up with the constant freezing, slow performance, home screen reloads, no camera flash, no track pad and no support from cyanogen? This phone feels 3 generations behind my MyTouch. The screen is the only thing that's better, but it's nearly useless because the phone is so pathetic otherwise.
Fwiw, I'm running ICBINB, and, well, I sure as hell CAN believe it's not butter! The theme I loaded over it has blacked out all text on my menu pop ups too, making them impossible to read.
What a disappointment. I don't understand why those of you who had a choice actually intentionally selected this phone. This is a sad day for me.
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There are quite a few great ROMs out there right now which you can use. Remember, just because you haven't taken full advantage of the phone's capabilities, it doesn't mean that it isn't a good phone.
You can apply RAM tweaks, Custom ROMs and KERNELS, OVERCLOCKING, and so much more.
Everyone here at XDA would appreciate it if you would keep your snide remarks to yourself and, rather than complain, just get a different phone.
Thanks
Don't ever blast developers, Cyanogen can dev for whatever phone he pleases. Might i add the tmobile vibrant IS supported by cm. Nobody here cares about your opinion of the damn phone, but we care about harsh unsolicited criticism of our hard working developers who have provided us with lots of useful information and time out of their daily lives. Who do you think you are to insult the work of others. If you have nothing better to do than complain then please do so in the silence of your home and not on the forums, please read the forum rules before you intend to offend anyone else.
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Don't ever blast developers, Cyanogen can dev for whatever phone he pleases. Might i add the tmobile vibrant IS supported by cm. Nobody here cares about your opinion of the damn phone, but we care about harsh unsolicited criticism of our hard working developers who have provided us with lots of useful information and time out of their daily lives. Who do you think you are to insult the work of others. If you have nothing better to do than complain then please do so in the silence of your home and not on the forums, please read the forum rules before you intend to offend anyone else.
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Hey, don't be a clown. I never criticized the developers. It's not their fault that the hardware is pure trash. Don't put words in my mouth, pally.
So basically... You exchanged a faulty phone and got another faulty phone, from a different manufacturer?
Perhaps you're just a faulty owner...
Myself and my wife purchased our phones at the same time, she a mytouch4g, myself galaxy s4g... First 3 days she spent on the line with tech support and 1 day in the store getting the phone running properly... Myself zero problems!
At any rate, I'll assume you are well within your exchange period take it back!
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T-Mobile gave me one of these to replace my faulty MyTouch 4G because they claimed to be out of stock. How do you guys put up with the constant freezing, slow performance, home screen reloads, no camera flash, no track pad and no support from cyanogen? This phone feels 3 generations behind my MyTouch. The screen is the only thing that's better, but it's nearly useless because the phone is so pathetic otherwise.
Fwiw, I'm running ICBINB, and, well, I sure as hell CAN believe it's not butter! The theme I loaded over it has blacked out all text on my menu pop ups too, making them impossible to read.
What a disappointment. I don't understand why those of you who had a choice actually intentionally selected this phone. This is a sad day for me.
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I see where you're coming from and I understand why you're frustrated. MT4G has had CM7 since December so I can see why it's frustrating to leave it, especially since CM7 on the MT4G has absolute no stutter.
But people enjoy this phone for other reasons than what you enjoyed about the MT4G. The SGS4G is a great media phone, beats the **** out of the MT4G hardware wise IMO. It's lighter, and better built (I actually prefer plastic than metal). And the speaker quality is boss. Plus the video codecs are awesome on TW.
Yeah it's software is considerably slower than on the MT4G, but there's still plenty of things to love about the SGS4G.
But since you don't like it, just exchange it back for the MT4G. BTW, why did they offer you this phone? Did they run out of stock or something because I myself was about to call for another MT4G as my current one has problems with the digitizer/touch screen. And did they offer you just the SGS4G or any other phone?
Well so far I have had extended play with or owned an htc hero, samsung moment, hct evo 4g, htc g2, lg g2x and the sgs4g and consider this phone to be front of the pack. Furthermore this place is for the advancement of this phone and if you choose to bring nothing other than negativity to the table perhaps you should not come to it at all.
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I see where you're coming from and I understand why you're frustrated. MT4G has had CM7 since December so I can see why it's frustrating to leave it, especially since CM7 on the MT4G has absolute no stutter.
But people enjoy this phone for other reasons than what you enjoyed about the MT4G. The SGS4G is a great media phone, beats the **** out of the MT4G hardware wise IMO. It's lighter, and better built (I actually prefer plastic than metal). And the speaker quality is boss. Plus the video codecs are awesome on TW.
Yeah it's software is considerably slower than on the MT4G, but there's still plenty of things to love about the SGS4G.
But since you don't like it, just exchange it back for the MT4G. BTW, why did they offer you this phone? Did they run out of stock or something because I myself was about to call for another MT4G as my current one has problems with the digitizer/touch screen. And did they offer you just the SGS4G or any other phone?
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Yeah, they said they were out of stock of the MyTouch 4G and gave me several "comparable" phones to choose from. The problem with my MyTouch 4G was with the front facing camera (faulty user my ass, QUIETLYloud), and the SGS4G was the only option they gave me with a FFC, making it the only logical choice. I'm just going to call them later today to see if/when they'll have more MT4Gs in stock and, if not, if they'd be willing to work with me on a discounted upgrade to the Sensation or something similar.
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Well so far I have had extended play with or owned an htc hero, samsung moment, hct evo 4g, htc g2, lg g2x and the sgs4g and consider this phone to be front of the pack. Furthermore this place is for the advancement of this phone and if you choose to bring nothing other than negativity to the table perhaps you should not come to it at all.
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Front of the pack? And you've used the G2x? That's interesting, considering I've rooted and flashed CM7 on a few G2x's for friends, and that phone is in an entirely different league than the SGS4G. It makes the SGS4G look the way my G1 did when I got the Nexus One.
Cm7 means nothing on a g2x that had constant force close and over heating issues. You are correct the g2x is in a different league. It got sent back and the sgs4g stayed. Bottom line is if you are unhappy with your phone return it. Don't jump on that phones forum and state how it is garbage just because YOU don't prefer it.
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If your gonna be ignorant and trash something here people like then go do it somewhere else...me personally i had the mt4g and compared to the sgs4g to me its garbage but you dont see me going on the mt4g forum and telling everyone how ****ty i think it is.
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Yeah, they said they were out of stock of the MyTouch 4G and gave me several "comparable" phones to choose from. The problem with my MyTouch 4G was with the front facing camera (faulty user my ass, QUIETLYloud), and the SGS4G was the only option they gave me with a FFC, making it the only logical choice. I'm just going to call them later today to see if/when they'll have more MT4Gs in stock and, if not, if they'd be willing to work with me on a discounted upgrade to the Sensation or something similar.
Front of the pack? And you've used the G2x? That's interesting, considering I've rooted and flashed CM7 on a few G2x's for friends, and that phone is in an entirely different league than the SGS4G. It makes the SGS4G look the way my G1 did when I got the Nexus One.
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just stop feeding this ignorant troll, if you look at anything hes posted or started they are just questions, he has no idea about ANY kind of development.
if thats how you feel part four, well im sorry this phone doesnt meet your expectations but i hope you do get a new phone because you just lost ALL of any help you could have received, not that you would care or anything
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? Why? Did I post this in the wrong section or something? It sounds to me like you're in denial. If you were truly happy with your phone and found no truth in what I've said you would've just laughed to yourself and ignored this thread. But that's not what happened.
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well... As you know.. This is not a rant forum.. if you are having problem with this phone. Contact T-mobile! Your ranting will not get you far here.. And it will definately will not fix your problem! you're only asking to get flamed!
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The speaker on this thing is not "boss." Listening to Google Voice voicemails over the speakerphone is nearly impossible. Basically have to put the phone up to my ear anyway. And this phone's speakerphone won't turn off. All calls are over speakerphone, no matter what I do. Worst.
We are not tmobile customer service, if you have problems contact them, dont be posting this garbage on here.
All I'm saying is that, while it does have a great display, this phone is weak, laggy, has unresponsive keys, takes sub-par photos, has 2/3 the minimum amount of RAM that should be expected from current-gen Android devices and it performs poorly overall. I think this falls into the "General" forum category and, therefore, is completely on-topic.
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All I'm saying is that, while it does have a great display, this phone is weak, laggy, has unresponsive keys, takes sub-par photos, has 2/3 the minimum amount of RAM that should be expected from current-gen Android devices and it performs poorly overall. I think this falls into the "General" forum category and, therefore, is completely on-topic.
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for the last time!!! contact T-Mobile!! and rant over there!! I'll report this thread to be closed.
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for the last time!!! contact T-Mobile!! and rant over there!! I'll report this thread to be closed.
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You have complete control over whether or not you choose to participate in this discussion. You don't have to read this thread. It's not stickied. Yet.
I'll probably be changing to AT&T and the Infuse 4G, coming from Sprint and an Evo 4G. I know I wont se anything like sense, besides the LauncherPro Sense Theme, and Sense is something I will greately miss a lot :'( but I just want to know what other features I might not see on the Infuse, and if possible also the benefits from switching. Also, is android 2.3.3 available for it? Cause I've been told its still on 2.2. And finally, testing an Infuse at an AT&T store I was unable to download music, it said the file was not supported (an mp3 file...) can the phone download music?? Or will I have to transfer music from my pc?
Sorry for all the questions, but those are the only thoughts/doubts keeping me from switching today as soon as stores open.
you might miss not having an FM radio. and the hdim requires An adapter that you might forget to carry. there is 2.3.3 on the Rogers infuse, soon the firmware will be flashable to the att infuse. now there is a custom rom beta and the final version is in there works that is 2.3.3
the mp3 problem is something that i haven't experienced but some people report it as an issue if the phone is on too long it starts giving file not supported error, i don't know why but i don't have that problem. this phone actually supports more codecs and wrappers than phones from any other manufacturer without 3rd party software. you can definitely download music too it. it also has a hifi headphone amp. multimedia is basically the focus of this and the galaxy s line.
Once you've realized the negative performance impact Sense had on your phone you probably won't miss it either.
Sense was a massive improvement for Windows Mobile phones. It was a minor improvement to the early Android user interface, but these days it's just a bloated step backwards.
as far as 2.3 goes, there is a beta rom in the dev section, and there is also an official AT&T update coming in the next few weeks.
I too came from Sprint / Evo 4G. Here are the pros / cons as I see them, in order of importance to me.
Pros
Battery life
Thin form factor
Weight
Screen
Network speed
Voice / data simultaneously
Cons
GPS
Game compatibility
Speaker volume
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Once you've realized the negative performance impact Sense had on your phone you probably won't miss it either.
Sense was a massive improvement for Windows Mobile phones. It was a minor improvement to the early Android user interface, but these days it's just a bloated step backwards.
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I agree. I had the inspire and the whole sense experience while really cool seemed like a huge resource hog. Couple that with htc already crappy battery and the phone can't even last a day. Sorry but I really don't need all that bloat that is sense.
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BTW, the Gingerbread ROM seems to have MAJOR GPS performance improvements in my opinion.
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BTW, the Gingerbread ROM seems to have MAJOR GPS performance improvements in my opinion.
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Mine is kinda being poopy today long lock waits
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Mine is kinda being poopy today long lock waits
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lets wait on a better release with a fully working kernel, gps didnt work for me at first. i got mine working good by starting with the jz3 mod and changing a few things, it wouldn't seem to work without secure socket on the supl settings enabled, i took the last two lines out of the gps.conf from jz3.
Only thing I have to add is that the inability to download certain file types may be compounded by the infuse but is also a known froyo issue.
The best work around I've seen for the majority of people is to install astro file manager and then in preferences check the box labeled "enable browser download".
Step by step... install astro, open it, press menu button, scroll down to "Enable browser download", check that and press the back button until you've exited the app. This will act much like the built in download manager in gingerbread. If you have trouble locating downloads that used to go to the tapatalkxdapre folder look in the normal download folder.
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Once you've realized the negative performance impact Sense had on your phone you probably won't miss it either.
Sense was a massive improvement for Windows Mobile phones. It was a minor improvement to the early Android user interface, but these days it's just a bloated step backwards.
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I agree as well. The first time you use Sense, it's like wow! Look how beautiful it is. After you try something else, you'll like how clean it is and how much the bells and whistles bog the device down. I now call Sense bloat .
i dont think sense is beautiful at all. it has a cool weather widget, that's it. the launcher is ugly, the menus have too many options, the colors are ugly, too many greys, really outside of the widget i dont see anything about sense that says wow. thoguh vanilla android was pretty gross untill gingerbread came out. touch wiz is ok but i like the hybrid of tw3+tw4 icons+aosp status bar and icons in gtg's rom. that should be what the phone looks like out of the box. and there should be some better widgets.
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I agree as well. The first time you use Sense, it's like wow! Look how beautiful it is. After you try something else, you'll like how clean it is and how much the bells and whistles bog the device down. I now call Sense bloat .
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So essentially you're calling sense....non...sense...?
/rimshot
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i dont think sense is beautiful at all. it has a cool weather widget, that's it. the launcher is ugly, the menus have too many options, the colors are ugly, too many greys, really outside of the widget i dont see anything about sense that says wow. thoguh vanilla android was pretty gross untill gingerbread came out. touch wiz is ok but i like the hybrid of tw3+tw4 icons+aosp status bar and icons in gtg's rom. that should be what the phone looks like out of the box. and there should be some better widgets.
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agreed. And what's the deal with sense having a "customize" icon in that bottom part when you have the menu button just below it that takes you to the same thing?!
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Can you wait just a bit ? Samsung is releasing the Galaxy S2 on ATT sometime in August or early September the latest.
That phone will be much better than the Infuse, plus have tons of developers supporting.
I might switch to the S2 on ATT too, Sprint's service is really going down. 3G speeds are super bad, like 100k/sec at times in Chicago. And 4G if you can keep a signal is the slowest 4G compared to Verizon's LTE and ATT HSPE
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Well first off, i want to thank everybody for their replies, and second appologize for not replying Ive been a little bussy , so after reading all of the replies and asking around ppl who switched to the infuse, Im more convinced than ever that it wont be any dissapointment in any aspect to get an infuse since it would practically be an upgrade. For the speaker, ill miss my Evo's since its sooooo loud, I use the PowerAmp EQ and an app called Equalizer and it really boosts the volume, I'll surely be trying it on the Infuse and see if its any louder. Also as gregj100 mentioned game compatibility, I hope the games I love and really use do work on the phone. Aside from that, if I ever do miss Sense, I read theres a solution: download LauncherPro and download the SenseUI theme, so Im good with that. And as far as music, in any case I'd just transfer it from my pc if the phone doesnt want to download a song for some reason , so yeah Im really looking forward to the switch to the Infuse ;D once again thanks to everyone for the helpful replies.
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Can you wait just a bit ? Samsung is releasing the Galaxy S2 on ATT sometime in August or early September the latest.
That phone will be much better than the Infuse, plus have tons of developers supporting.
I might switch to the S2 on ATT too, Sprint's service is really going down. 3G speeds are super bad, like 100k/sec at times in Chicago. And 4G if you can keep a signal is the slowest 4G compared to Verizon's LTE and ATT HSPE
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I agree with u that AT&T is better and much much faster, plus here at home Sprint reception is horrible and they suggested an "Airave" system which I'd have to pa an extra $5 a month, its like im paying to get bad reception and I have to pay even more to get good reception -_-, but anywas I just dont like the 2GB limit, but I can get used to it since I wont use data at home cause I have WiFi ;D, so as far as AT&T Vs Sprint I have no problem switching there either, and as for Galaxy S2, I never was a Galaxy fan but the S2 is really a great improvement, now I'd just have to get used to the square at the bottom instead of all 4 keys (home, menu, back, search) though I never really used search.
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I agree with u that AT&T is better and much much faster, plus here at home Sprint reception is horrible and they suggested an "Airave" system which I'd have to pa an extra $5 a month, its like im paying to get bad reception and I have to pay even more to get good reception -_-, but anywas I just dont like the 2GB limit, but I can get used to it since I wont use data at home cause I have WiFi ;D, so as far as AT&T Vs Sprint I have no problem switching there either, and as for Galaxy S2, I never was a Galaxy fan but the S2 is really a great improvement, now I'd just have to get used to the square at the bottom instead of all 4 keys (home, menu, back, search) though I never really used search.
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the att varient of the gs2 wont have the centered home, anyway you will need to get used to the galaxy s button locations which are different from the evo.
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I agree. I had the inspire and the whole sense experience while really cool seemed like a huge resource hog. Couple that with htc already crappy battery and the phone can't even last a day. Sorry but I really don't need all that bloat that is sense.
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I came from an inspire as well. While it was a good phone, work picked up my cell and that allowed me to try out the infuse. I absolutely LOVE this phone. Personally, I enjoy it much more the my Inspire (which i gave to my mother-in-law).
Anyway, it's been a while since i had a phone this awesome (was on a long line of iPhone trend before my Inspire).
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the att varient of the gs2 wont have the centered home, anyway you will need to get used to the galaxy s button locations which are different from the evo.
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hm didnt know about the button, I guess thats good for me , and about the buttons yeah when I tried powering on an Infuse for the first time I was trying to find the power button on top, until i looked and saw it on the side ;P just a little getting used to on both phones regardless of which I choose to go for.