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Hi guys,
You probably already know me from my other threads, mostly the support thread. If not, I would like to give a brief introduction: in june, I received an upgrade from at&t and decided to purchase the infuse 4g my first android phone.
I was thrilled with its performance, and the community started off strong. ROM's were coming out surprisingly fast, actually too fast for me to figure out which one I liked best.
I began to see that the developers threads were getting cluttered up with silly, often repeated questions, so I created a support thread to help lessen the load for the devs. I know it wasn't a perfect solution, but I helped build a small team of people who have been incredibly helpful so far, who I am beyond impressed with.
Now comes the bad part. Even my support thread, originally designed to avoid clutter, has become a landfill of lazy people who don't look for the answer to their question which has been asked and answered 30 times already.
All the devs have been subjected to so much bs that they are afraid to even release their work. Everyone flames everyone like crazy, but none of you guys can help the community. I am disgusted by most of your behaviors, and hope that you see how childish your arguments are.
Now, for my point: this community is still young, and we have accomplished so much already. We have the chance to have one of the strongest development teams out there, and a kick-ass community, in which we look out for each other's best interest.
I would like to propose a way to get things started again: we need a campaign to delete clutter/flame.
Neo works hard, but we need to help him out. Everyone, I urge you to look through your posts, find bad ones, and mark them in some way to be deleted. This is in order to resuscitate this potentially unbeatable community.
Thank you all, and I hope you understand my intentions
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constructive crticism welscome
Moderator's(Neo) intervention was required as gtg's thread was going out of control.
as after his intervention members have started behaving themselves and Neo has removed/locked unnecessary threads this forum is at peace.
let the dead bury the dead and do not remind people again of what happened.
Just post relevant stuff and that is sufficient for everybody.
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if issues are not resolved then it never will be as no one will accept blame and any such thread will eventually result in blame game.
right now see that people are just paying attention to information,now calling them for campaign is also a distraction.
btpd21 said:
Hi guys,
You probably already know me from my other threads, mostly the support thread. If not, I would like to give a brief introduction: in june, I received an upgrade from at&t and decided to purchase the infuse 4g my first android phone.
I was thrilled with its performance, and the community started off strong. ROM's were coming out surprisingly fast, actually too fast for me to figure out which one I liked best.
I began to see that the developers threads were getting cluttered up with silly, often repeated questions, so I created a support thread to help lessen the load for the devs. I know it wasn't a perfect solution, but I helped build a small team of people who have been incredibly helpful so far, who I am beyond impressed with.
Now comes the bad part. Even my support thread, originally designed to avoid clutter, has become a landfill of lazy people who don't look for the answer to their question which has been asked and answered 30 times already.
All the devs have been subjected to so much bs that they are afraid to even release their work. Everyone flames everyone like crazy, but none of you guys can help the community. I am disgusted by most of your behaviors, and hope that you see how childish your arguments are.
Now, for my point: this community is still young, and we have accomplished so much already. We have the chance to have one of the strongest development teams out there, and a kick-ass community, in which we look out for each other's best interest.
I would like to propose a way to get things started again: we need a campaign to delete clutter/flame.
Neo works hard, but we need to help him out. Everyone, I urge you to look through your posts, find bad ones, and mark them in some way to be deleted. This is in order to resuscitate this potentially unbeatable community.
Thank you all, and I hope you understand my intentions
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Good post!
We need to be able to rule ourselves or somebody else will!
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rohit3192 said:
i am sure that neo will close this thread as this is not required.
Moderator's(Neo) intervention was required as gtg's thread was going out of control.
as after his intervention members have started behaving themselves and Neo has removed/locked unnecessary threads this forum is at peace.
let the dead bury the dead and do not remind people again of what happened.
plz ask Neo to close this thread.
Just post relevant stuff and that is sufficient for everybody.
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Hey, thanks for sharing your opinion with me in a respectful manner. However, I feel that the issue is not yet resolved, and the general forum is definitely the appropriate place to post it. The development is virtually at a standstill and I am not talking about gtg, but the other devs and would be devs who are now discouraged. I find that although your response was polite, it was completely inappropriate, especially considering what my original post stated. If you have an issue with my posts please message in private as opposed to calling me out/ racking up your post count.
Corvette Dave said:
Good post!
We need to be able to rule ourselves or somebody else will!
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Thank you for your support! I appreciate it.
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I doubt the devs read half the crap, and know that most if the quiet folks really enjoy there work, and in no means are they scared to
release there work, but rather punish and don't release, which its necessary to shut alt of people up, can always find them on irc
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I'm glad you guys are willing to help out in getting this show on the road. This can only be done by helpful members, especially the ones who read the rules and abide by them.
I think the main issue at hand is that people tend to speak their mind too often, in situations where a moderator should intervene. The best course of action is to report a post or PM a mod (for the Infuse, that's me ) and let them know what's going on.
I'm not on the board 24/7, so I too can miss stuff. But there are ALWAYS other mods who look after the Infuse forums when I can't, so reporting is the BEST thing you can do.
About "rebooting" the community: People are already getting annoyed by the lazy, demanding types, who don't use the search and just post another question which has been asked a million times before. Well, at least if it's in the Q&A forum, it's controlled. So that's our main focus for now: get people to ask their questions there, instead of the development or general forums.
This thread can stay open, as long as it's constructive criticism. All ideas are welcome, as long as it helps us out, right?
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This thread can stay open, as long as it's constructive criticism. All ideas are welcome, as long as it helps us out, right?
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Neo just as you posted this I was editing my post in this thread.
I was concerned that this thread doesn't become a place for blaming other members or finding faults of others.as long as this stands for supporting devs my vote is there.
Right now I think forum is going well
NeoS2007 said:
About "rebooting" the community: People are already getting annoyed by the lazy, demanding types, who don't use the search and just post another question which has been asked a million times before. Well, at least if it's in the Q&A forum, it's controlled. So that's our main focus for now: get people to ask their questions there, instead of the development or general forums.
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I wasn't aware that there was a Q&A forum until you mentioned it. I'm using the xda app and have the SAMSUNG Infuse 4g as my favorite, but within that category, the Q&A forum isn't listed. I clicked onto the forum tab and scrolled till I found the Q&A forum. Yeah people can search for it, but I wasn't even aware that forum existed. I just suggest adding the forum into the Infuse 4g category. I think there will be less questions asked in the wrong section if it was listed.
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I am guilty of posting topics that I know have been disgust before, the issue that I have and others I'm sure is that the search feature from the app seems to search the entire forum. I think it would be great if a filter feature could be added.
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nash2000 said:
I am guilty of posting topics that I know have been disgust before, the issue that I have and others I'm sure is that the search feature from the app seems to search the entire forum. I think it would be great if a filter feature could be added.
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I will flag this to our admins, so it can be looked into. Thanks for your feedback.
jayson94538 said:
I wasn't aware that there was a Q&A forum until you mentioned it. I'm using the xda app and have the SAMSUNG Infuse 4g as my favorite, but within that category, the Q&A forum isn't listed. I clicked onto the forum tab and scrolled till I found the Q&A forum. Yeah people can search for it, but I wasn't even aware that forum existed. I just suggest adding the forum into the Infuse 4g category. I think there will be less questions asked in the wrong section if it was listed.
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My app shows the Q&A section. But it didn't until I reinstalled. Had to reinstall it after I put CM7 on.
To get the new subforum to show on the app you have to re-add the infuse forum to your favorites.
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apallohadas said:
To get the new subforum to show on the app you have to re-add the infuse forum to your favorites.
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Indeed. Unsubscribe and then resubscribe.
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Indeed. Unsubscribe and then resubscribe.
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Heh well that worked. Thank you.
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NeoS2007 said:
I'm glad you guys are willing to help out in getting this show on the road. This can only be done by helpful members, especially the ones who read the rules and abide by them.
I think the main issue at hand is that people tend to speak their mind too often, in situations where a moderator should intervene. The best course of action is to report a post or PM a mod (for the Infuse, that's me ) and let them know what's going on.
I'm not on the board 24/7, so I too can miss stuff. But there are ALWAYS other mods who look after the Infuse forums when I can't, so reporting is the BEST thing you can do.
About "rebooting" the community: People are already getting annoyed by the lazy, demanding types, who don't use the search and just post another question which has been asked a million times before. Well, at least if it's in the Q&A forum, it's controlled. So that's our main focus for now: get people to ask their questions there, instead of the development or general forums.
This thread can stay open, as long as it's constructive criticism. All ideas are welcome, as long as it helps us out, right?
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Thanks for your support. Is there a way we could mark our bad posts to be deleted without reporting ourselves?
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I think alot of people like myself are new android users. I knew nothing 3 months ago about Android then I got the infuse my first smartphone which seems like its a lot of peoples first android. So I admit I posted questions then went and found the answer when I got no replies. I think people just need to understand that this is very fresh for a lot of people. It was ridiculous on gtg's post but on the other hand people got so angry at othrs that knew very little.
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ZeroIsntTheHero said:
Indeed. Unsubscribe and then resubscribe.
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You don't even have to unsubscribe just subscribe again (referring to the xda app)
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And I think another reason why we see a lot of similar topics being posted especially regarding support is because new users (like myself) feel we need support about our specific situation, even tho we may have already read a similar thrend. Its happened to me were I posted help and either ill get a smart reply ie "its been posted 10 times already" or they may reply with a link. The link will be exactly what I've already read but, the thrend doesn't 100% pertain to my situation so I'm afraid I may mess up even more if I follow those steps (its actually already happened,my first brick) This is why we may see a lot of repeat thrends. I usually will encourage my support giver to pm me but I hardly receive any.
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Why not have a separate section for rom support? I realize that sounds goofy but in the rom thread could be development related questions and in support section help and tech support?
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Well, xda-developers is for... DEVELOPERS. Although most people on xda are in it for the custom roms and leeching of apps.
I agree there should be some kind of a "noob sandbox" where new users can ask their questions and get answers from more seasoned users/devs. But how do you guys propose we do that?
It used to be almost every dev would release their mods on XDA and they would eventually trickle out to the other forums. Lately I noticed more stuff being released on ROOTZWIKI and not on XDA. 2 cases in point are IMNUTS hacked kernel and JT moving all his mods to ROOTZWIKI.
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GrainOsand said:
It used to be almost every dev would release their mods on XDA and they would eventually trickle out to the other forums. Lately I noticed more stuff being released on ROOTZWIKI and not on XDA. 2 cases in point are IMNUTS hacked kernel and JT moving all his mods to ROOTZWIKI.
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Some Devs are continuing to contribute and post their work on XDA; however, a lot are fed up with XDA for lots of reasons and have left. Many are posting at rootzwiki now. Some exclusively.
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GrainOsand said:
It used to be almost every dev would release their mods on XDA and they would eventually trickle out to the other forums. Lately I noticed more stuff being released on ROOTZWIKI and not on XDA. 2 cases in point are IMNUTS hacked kernel and JT moving all his mods to ROOTZWIKI.
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yeah I think some of the devs are getting fed up with the way the site is run, moderated, or just general dislike of the sometimes rude people here... Rootzwiki is not bad, almost exactly like XDA in the way it looks and operates... I signed up over there and check both forums as it seems you are right and little by little more is only being posted over there
interesting. will have to sign up for an account there too.
thanks, OP.
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btw, what are some things about XDA that's upsetting Dev's?
There is way more activity here though. People tell it like is here and some may construe that as rude.
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I just downloaded the app. I find it much harder to navigate than XDA's.
EDIT: Not much activity. May be a great way to escape the influx of noobs. But my Android soul belongs to XDA.
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kvswim said:
I just downloaded the app. I find it much harder to navigate than XDA's.
EDIT: Not much activity. May be a great way to escape the influx of noobs. But my Android soul belongs to XDA.
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Devs get free test rigs over there... It's also an insiders only place that not alot of noobs know about.
Xda pays google a ton of money for search results... That's why xda is gigantic
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danalo1979 said:
Devs get free test rigs over there... It's also an insiders only place that not alot of noobs know about.
Xda pays google a ton of money for search results... That's why xda is gigantic
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well more are gonna know about it now lol... don't mean to derail thread but any news on a possible humble GB update (if any)?
huh. interesting.
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Xda pays google a ton of money for search results... That's why xda is gigantic
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That's not how Google works -- you can't pay them to rank higher (or even rank at all) in search results. XDA may pay for sponsored links (AdWords) next to the search results, but I'm not even sure they do that as in countless ROM-related searches I've never seen an XDA ad.
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I'll create a (not so short) list of reasons why people are leaving
New people asking questions that have been asked 500 times
People not reading threads for known issues/problems/etc.
People not searching before asking/posting
Rude people (not just "telling it how it is" either)
Know it all types that really know nothing
People not following
Lack of moderation
Unfair moderation
Inconsistent moderation with regards to rules
Sense of entitlement among users (goes back to rude people)
I'm sure there are other reasons as well. As for XDA paying for Google rankings, they may not directly, but indirectly, pages that get traffic get higher rankings in search results. And also, a site's age/reputation factors into it as well.
RootzWiki is new, and with most forums I've been to for phones, people will wait to see what the better forum is, then go there. With most devices being released already before RootzWiki started, communities have already developed elsewhere. As new phones come out, where people are posting could quite easily change. And so far, RootzWiki has a much more consistent moderation approach, as well as developer friendly environment.
imnuts said:
I'll create a (not so short) list of reasons why people are leaving
New people asking questions that have been asked 500 times
People not reading threads for known issues/problems/etc.
People not searching before asking/posting
Rude people (not just "telling it how it is" either)
Know it all types that really know nothing
People not following
Lack of moderation
Unfair moderation
Inconsistent moderation with regards to rules
Sense of entitlement among users (goes back to rude people)
I'm sure there are other reasons as well. As for XDA paying for Google rankings, they may not directly, but indirectly, pages that get traffic get higher rankings in search results. And also, a site's age/reputation factors into it as well.
RootzWiki is new, and with most forums I've been to for phones, people will wait to see what the better forum is, then go there. With most devices being released already before RootzWiki started, communities have already developed elsewhere. As new phones come out, where people are posting could quite easily change. And so far, RootzWiki has a much more consistent moderation approach, as well as developer friendly environment.
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but I (and most of the regulars) appreciate the ones who do stay and put up with it this isn't a job so its awesome you guys keep up with this, especially for as long as some of you have
anoninja118 said:
but I (and most of the regulars) appreciate the ones who do stay and put up with it this isn't a job so its awesome you guys keep up with this, especially for as long as some of you have
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+1. I just try answer as many questions as possible so you guys don't have to. Once again, thanks for all the work you do and the other devs do!
imnuts said:
I'll create a (not so short) list of reasons why people are leaving
New people asking questions that have been asked 500 times
People not reading threads for known issues/problems/etc.
People not searching before asking/posting
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I'm still using one of your early non-voodoo pbj kernels (along with your modified cwm). Stock EE4. Even at that time, the instruction & comment thread was quite large, with lots of feedback, problems, advice, & fixes. I know you devs are really good at updating the first post of the thread, but the following sentence still applies, especially for newbies.
It is therefore important to read entire threads!
Of course, this is where the problems start for the new folks (re impatient). Then come questions on clarifications. True, I've seen you answer the same question many times.
I can't relate to the "entitlement mentality" of some users.
I read a lot of yours (& kejar's) writings. Truly enjoy it.
I follow the forums with the most traffic. More traffic = more knowledge for me. (selfish bast. . .)
Sorry your experience here is turning sour. I'll not contribute to the apples.
Thanks for all of your hard work, devotion, & yes, patience.
Chris
personally i post everything i do on both xda and rootz
in the beginning i wasnt entirely in support of yet another forum. but they do a lot over there and as new phones come out (especially verizon ones) id imagine the communities will be larger and larger there versus xda
having said that, im surprised xda hasnt shut down this thread yet because apparently speaking of other forums isnt allowed
whereas rootz will let you post xda links and discuss whatever u want (even to their own detriment) regardless
I will add a few reasons that are not mentioned already
1... At Rootz, the site owners are appreciable and friends with many of the devs... They are also strong supporters of developers
2... The allow subforums.. this is important as once you get a subforum, you as the dev/owner of that subform can moderate yourself....
I remember back in the windows mobile Touch Pro 2 days PPCGeeks was the place to be for Sprint/Verizon Roms, so it's definitely possible for development communities to shift to a different website. If enough big developers used Rootzwiki exclusively, I think everyone would follow them. People go wherever the developers go. Rootzwiki giving out free phones to developers is also pretty cool...
So my other thread got closed for no reason at all. I am simply wanting opinions on phones and why PEOPLE think is best...this is for helping ME out into getting my next phone. It helps getting info from people here since people here are pretty smart in knowing software specs n all...as of right now I'm open to ANY phone, ANY UI. I'm open to ALL opinions and would like to know why you think and feel it is a great phone...not necessarily the best phone. Hopefully this thread can stay open since I'm not doing anything wrong. Thanks
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Many posts have been closed because there are many, many more just like this. I understand you want some help and opinions, but use the search feature and you'll find answers
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Your other thread was closed due to it´s placed in the wrong section and redundant, same as this one.
Please read the rules and post in proper sections
Ok so as some of you may know development for the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G is taking off somewhat and yet XDA is ignoring our requests for a forum in favor of devices that aren't out yet and devices that nobody much has heard of... I am posting this to ask anyone who remembers how long it took the Doubleshot to get its own forum as well as to ask my former community to help US out. (In other words... could y'all hit up the new forum request page and thank our posts/ bump the relay lol? (If this is against xda rules I apologize) or if anyone knows someone who can expedite this situation we'd all appreciate it.
Btw update - anyone wants my DS pm me, flex cable is failed and currently I have disassembled it while grounded and yes I'm tech savvy enough to not fry components. Idk how much to ask but make an offer lol.
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onebornoflight said:
Ok so as some of you may know development for the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G is taking off somewhat and yet XDA is ignoring our requests for a forum in favor of devices that aren't out yet and devices that nobody much has heard of... I am posting this to ask anyone who remembers how long it took the Doubleshot to get its own forum as well as to ask my former community to help US out. (In other words... could y'all hit up the new forum request page and thank our posts/ bump the relay lol? (If this is against xda rules I apologize) or if anyone knows someone who can expedite this situation we'd all appreciate it.
Btw update - anyone wants my DS pm me, flex cable is failed and currently I have disassembled it while grounded and yes I'm tech savvy enough to not fry components. Idk how much to ask but make an offer lol.
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Maybe XDA has a personal issue with phones with QWERTY keyboards.
We encountered this issue on my previous qwerty device also and believe me we almost got top 2 on the voting thread for new devices yet till now it still don't have any forum of its own. I already asked and the reason why it didn't get its own forum was not because of the lack of the community but instead the lack of real developers to support the device. To quote what the mod I talked to he said that
"XDA-developers" is a forum made for developers. Having even a thousand active members on a specific device but only have a handful of developers won't make it eligible for its own dedicated forum. As much as we'd like to provide every device it's own forum we also consider the cluttering of the forum itself so we are just narrowing down the devices on which we could get more active development than a forum full of average user questions.
Guys try www.sdx-developers.com its a Samsung hacking site
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That's the only thing we can do. I've contacted quite a few mods, and they all told me the same thing. Post in the forum. Sorry, I tried but there's nothing else i can do to expedite the process. it seems that they will only open the forum when they see fit.
@strapped, no offense, but that site seems kinda dead. Just like rootzwiki. Xda will create a thread for you guys eventually. I don't see the point in fragmenting the device across two sites. Keep at it
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The scotsman messaged me back in response to a question I asked and his reply was that the decision is made by forum owners and admins over his head based on development potential of the device.
Now that, my friends, seems to be a bit of a debatable point doesn't it lol?
That being said - does anyone remember how long it took the DS to get a dedicated forum?
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onebornoflight said:
The scotsman messaged me back in response to a question I asked and his reply was that the decision is made by forum owners and admins over his head based on development potential of the device.
Now that, my friends, seems to be a bit of a debatable point doesn't it lol?
That being said - does anyone remember how long it took the DS to get a dedicated forum?
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At least he replied to you...
Lol I never got a reply
gtmaster303 said:
@strapped, no offense, but that site seems kinda dead. Just like rootzwiki. Xda will create a thread for you guys eventually. I don't see the point in fragmenting the device across two sites. Keep at it
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Now that XDA isn't accommodating, creating a dev section for the device there might just be what that site needs to bring it back to life
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That's the only thing we can do. I've contacted quite a few mods, and they all told me the same thing. Post in the forum. Sorry, I tried but there's nothing else i can do to expedite the process. it seems that they will only open the forum when they see fit.
@strapped, no offense, but that site seems kinda dead. Just like rootzwiki. Xda will create a thread for you guys eventually. I don't see the point in fragmenting the device across two sites. Keep at it
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Well either quit *****ing about xda not making y'all a thread or try to go to sdx. A lot of guys I have dealt with are from sdx. But lemme guess its a popularity contest? Y'all are a trip wanting more then what's needed, and that's just a place to call home, I'm so glad I decided not to get that device as I see most of this community will be.
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Well either quit *****ing about xda not making y'all a thread or try to go to sdx. A lot of guys I have dealt with are from sdx. But lemme guess its a popularity contest? Y'all are a trip wanting more then what's needed, and that's just a place to call home, I'm so glad I decided not to get that device as I see most of this community will be.
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1. I'm not *****ing. I don't even have this device
2. It is a popularity contest. Xda has way more devs and exposure than the site you mentioned. Do I want more than what's needed? Of course. Who wouldn't?
3. Everyone buys a device for X reason. Avoiding a device because of the users is your choice. No one cares if you don't get this device
4. You mad bro?
Honestly I thought we were friends, but I guess not... last person I expected to come out like this was you. Unless my English went bad overnight, someone tell me I'm reading this wrong
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gtmaster303 said:
1. I'm not *****ing. I don't even have this device
2. It is a popularity contest. Xda has way more devs and exposure than the site you mentioned. Do I want more than what's needed? Of course. Who wouldn't?
3. Everyone buys a device for X reason. Avoiding a device because of the users is your choice. No one cares if you don't get this device
4. You mad bro?
Honestly I thought we were friends, but I guess not... last person I expected to come out like this was you. Unless my English went bad overnight, someone tell me I'm reading this wrong
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1. If not *****ing then why not go somewhere that could potentially give a home for that device....on a Samsung hacking site.
2. Popularity? Really, being popular has nothing at all to do with development. The best dev in the world could have this device and with no home, no one would ever know. So wouldn't you rather risk it? I personally post on themikmik sdx and xda.....why more advertisement
4. Is just a personal choice because of what I see in these threads.( device and slider related in general)
5. Mad nah not me, I'm getting the N4 as soon as I save my allowance ( joking )
You got my first morning post and yes I'm tired of sdx getting played. I learned so much from them guys and a few of them brought straight cm code into Sense for a first ever seen mod that everyone uses now. So I don't agree with xda being the holy grail of hackers and only thou can come here for their needs. Xda has really stopped caring for the average user and ONLY CARE ABOUT AD REVENUE and having the devices they feel will get them the most.
So I do wanna say "I'm sorry gtmaster303". Never meant to sound like the shot was at you when it was meant for xda. They need to see and realize their not the only place to come for hacks anymore, so stop treating us like kids and only giving us what XDA wants. If they were really for the user that thread would have been made as soon as something development related could have been posted
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Riyal said:
"XDA-developers" is a forum made for developers. Having even a thousand active members on a specific device but only have a handful of developers won't make it eligible for its own dedicated forum. As much as we'd like to provide every device it's own forum we also consider the cluttering of the forum itself so we are just narrowing down the devices on which we could get more active development than a forum full of average user questions.
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This makes a whole lot of sense.
strapped365 said:
1. If not *****ing then why not go somewhere that could potentially give a home for that device....on a Samsung hacking site.
2. Popularity? Really, being popular has nothing at all to do with development. The best dev in the world could have this device and with no home, no one would ever know. So wouldn't you rather risk it? I personally post on themikmik sdx and xda.....why more advertisement
4. Is just a personal choice because of what I see in these threads.( device and slider related in general)
5. Mad nah not me, I'm getting the N4 as soon as I save my allowance ( joking )
You got my first morning post and yes I'm tired of sdx getting played. I learned so much from them guys and a few of them brought straight cm code into Sense for a first ever seen mod that everyone uses now. So I don't agree with xda being the holy grail of hackers and only thou can come here for their needs. Xda has really stopped caring for the average user and ONLY CARE ABOUT AD REVENUE and having the devices they feel will get them the most.
So I do wanna say "I'm sorry gtmaster303". Never meant to sound like the shot was at you when it was meant for xda. They need to see and realize their not the only place to come for hacks anymore, so stop treating us like kids and only giving us what XDA wants. If they were really for the user that thread would have been made as soon as something development related could have been posted
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Thanks. Although I don't agree with you completely, it's good to know you didn't go rogue on me all of a sudden. If xda wants ad revenue, they would be creating ads for every device out. Although I don't understand why they won't readily create a forum for a device that clearly needs it. I don't agree with their logic. If there's even one dev for a device, a forum should be made. That's like saying "we'll only host the most popular of devices." By that token, popularity should not ensue. And under that jurisdiction, technically the Doubleshot shouldn't exist here either. Our community is quite small, even for a dev community. Most of the daily page hits xda gets from us are the same couple dozen people, some of which login multiple times per day (because they have no life, myself included )
But popularity of the site is still necessary. not that many people know about sdx. When they look for a new phone to buy (devs and modders alike) most will come to xda and poke around to see if the activity is up to their liking. If not, they'll probably search for a new device. Main reason why I haven't switched over to a Captivate Glide or a Droid 4...
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I must be weird then as I bought my device because
1. It was the closest thing to a G3 on the market and
2. I was (and still am) angry with and done with HTC after the lack of ICS on the doubleshot.
Oh and 3. My DS died;(
Nonetheless if we decide to move to that other site I'll have to get an android app for it lol.
I'm growing disgruntled with XDA lately but its kinda like a drug for me... and strapped... this device stock is just about equivalent to my ds when it died with regards to ease of use and overall response. I DO miss a trackpad and the home button lags just a bit... but that could be me having an aftermarket launcher with touchwiz frozen but not uninstalled.
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I recently had a problem finding a Rom on the site. I kept going to all the pages and nothing I did worked when I tried to bring up the Rom on my computer. I asked in the section Galaxy Nexus for Verizon. Is there an update to my Rom. Instead of getting an answer I got things like can't you read huh. I then asked a direct yes or no and got a Yes Man answer. I tried to click on the title Rom and it kept taking me to another forum page and nothing there showed the answer.
After several nasty you got be kidding stuff. I went to my phone and went on the site from my phone. When I clicked on the title Rom on the page it took me to the site where the download was. My browser on my computer was not working with the site.
If someone would have said that or said something like did you try clicking on the title using another browser it would have been nicer than all the nasty remarks I got.
I am new to this and I do not spend a lot of time reading the site as I am very busy working and raising a family. I love having the site and I love using the Rom's for my phones. I wish people would be nicer and not so arrogant.
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I recently had a problem finding a Rom on the site. I kept going to all the pages and nothing I did worked when I tried to bring up the Rom on my computer. I asked in the section Galaxy Nexus for Verizon. Is there an update to my Rom. Instead of getting an answer I got things like can't you read huh. I then asked a direct yes or no and got a Yes Man answer. I tried to click on the title Rom and it kept taking me to another forum page and nothing there showed the answer.
After several nasty you got be kidding stuff. I went to my phone and went on the site from my phone. When I clicked on the title Rom on the page it took me to the site where the download was. My browser on my computer was not working with the site.
If someone would have said that or said something like did you try clicking on the title using another browser it would have been nicer than all the nasty remarks I got.
I am new to this and I do not spend a lot of time reading the site as I am very busy working and raising a family. I love having the site and I love using the Rom's for my phones. I wish people would be nicer and not so arrogant.
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Thank you for your post.
I believe one of the options here will help you properly report this:
http://www.xda-developers.com/contact/
Especially with the web issues you will want to report it.
Please also keep in mind if you are accessing behind a firewall that this too can affect your experience on the site.
Thank you!
I hear ya people do the same thing to me or they simply ignore me like their would be 300 views and not one post. Like my questions aren't even worth they're time. Other people ask a similar question and get numerous
Answers.
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I hear ya people do the same thing to me or they simply ignore me like their would be 300 views and not one post. Like my questions aren't even worth they're time. Other people ask a similar question and get numerous
Answers.
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Don't take this the wrong way. I honestly peruse as much as I can in the morning and then try to respond to what I can during the day. But 99% of the time I run out of time to reply so it's far more reading than typing.
If left on your own the other thing you can try to do is refine your search criteria. Try to get as specific as possible and include the device name or model. This may get you closer to the answer you're looking for as well.
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I hear ya people do the same thing to me or they simply ignore me like their would be 300 views and not one post. Like my questions aren't even worth they're time. Other people ask a similar question and get numerous Answers.
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Root lucid 1 was posted in the 'General' forum, not in Questions & Answers.
Lg lucid problems with fpse was posted correctly in the Q&A forum. However, there is no forum dedicated to this device, there is likely to be very little development for, or knowledge of, it as a result. Also, this post appears to be asking about ways to circumvent licence checks on a Playstation emulator - XDA does not exist to support any form of piracy, and you would be much better off asking these sort of questions somewhere else such as the emuparadise forums instead.
People aren't deliberately ignoring you but many, like me, will skim through the threads, click on anything that sounds unusual, and help if they can - if they can't that is another person who has viewed your thread, and with over 5 Million members that will happen quite frequently.
I think looking at the post and not replying isn't such a big deal, but i have been in the same situation where someone has time to type a condescending reply to try to make the person feel like crap, but not enough time to help with the answer except to say its in one or more of the 80 pages of the current thread.
so when I see a question that has been answered before and I know the answer I sometimes just takes the 30-45 seconds to quickly answer the question without bothering to point out that its been answered before.
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And before saying the typical use the search function, have you guys actually tried it for specific answers? I really don't think you have.
It will take you to the right thread but not the right page. So its really pretty much useless.
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And before saying the typical use the search function, have you guys actually tried it for specific answers? I really don't think you have.
It will take you to the right thread but not the right page. So its really pretty much useless.
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It isn't perfect, but it's not that bad. Also, using Google to do the search and starting the search with
Code:
site:forum.xda-developers.com
will give a much more precise and accurate search result.
That info may come in very handy in the future. Thanks.
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XDA is a Developers community, not a Tech Support Helpdesk. We are not here to teach you the basics of how to use your computer.
The suggestion of testing in another browser is something you should do by default if a website doesn't work properly.
We're happy to help newcomers, but there is a limit to every person's patience. This limit usually lies at the point where people show up on an advanced tech community and don't even know how to properly use bloody Google.com. And because this happens at least 40 times a day, that patience is stretched very thin for most.
350Rocket said:
And before saying the typical use the search function, have you guys actually tried it for specific answers? I really don't think you have.
It will take you to the right thread but not the right page. So its really pretty much useless.
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The gear icon behind the search bar is Advanced Search. There you can select Posts for the result as opposed to threads. (bottom left.) This will list the individual posts.
And if you're in a thread, above the thread is another search bar: Search in this thread. This will show all the posts in that thread with the keywords you type in there.
It's not useless if you look for more than 3 seconds
I have used it lots if times, thanks.
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Actually I've used advanced search lots without much luck. I don't see the search at top of the thread though, I'm in the app. Is it just on desktop site?
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You guys must remember,we all cant be jolly all the time,developers have jobs and families also,besides doing this for you guys for free,hours and hours and days,maybe weeks go by while trying to get the bugs out of a rom that everyone wants,while in the meantime,the guys boss or ole lady is yelling at them to get their ducks in a row and quit slacking,when all their trying to do is contribute to the community and make you happy,soo when a developer or some other forum contributor doesnt answer your question right away,its not you.Just be patient someone will eventually come along and answer it,also you need to remember alot of questions that are asked,can easily be google or searched here on the forum and you will find the answer yourself or figure it out on your own.Your right though at the same time,we shouldnt be grumpy towards people trying to fix something or learn.