Related
Is it possible that someone can make a patch for the hp touchpad that will give you the google chrome web browser instead of stock browser?
lovenokia said:
Is it possible that someone can make a patch for the hp touchpad that will give you the google chrome web browser instead of stock browser?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you want to use chromeon your touchpad, install Ubuntu on it. There is a guide to install it in Hp touchpad section.
Sent from my GT-I5700 using Tapatalk
lovleshgarg said:
If you want to use chromeon your touchpad, install Ubuntu on it. There is a guide to install it in Hp touchpad section.
Sent from my GT-I5700 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am aware of that, but i was wondering if some could have the same Chrome on your computer be on the touchpad with those tabs and hopefully the same browsing speed, I pretty much just don't want stock browser anymore.
lovenokia said:
I am aware of that, but i was wondering if some could have the same Chrome on your computer be on the touchpad with those tabs and hopefully the same browsing speed, I pretty much just don't want stock browser anymore.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry mate but for now u only have one option: advanced browser that allow tabs. But that is also functionality wise more or less same as stock browser.
Sent from my GT-I5700 using Tapatalk
lovleshgarg said:
Sorry mate but for now u only have one option: advanced browser that allow tabs. But that is also functionality wise more or less same as stock browser.
Sent from my GT-I5700 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I want to suggest to someone to make such a patch. Is this the place i should suggest it or go to pre central.
lovenokia said:
I want to suggest to someone to make such a patch. Is this the place i should suggest it or go to pre central.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Precentral is the place to ask for a patch. But many users already have reported about this many times.....
Sent from my GT-I5700 using Tapatalk
lovleshgarg said:
Precentral is the place to ask for a patch. But many users already have reported about this many times.....
Sent from my GT-I5700 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I thought xda developers and the best devs that i why i came here and asked and it looks like i have no luck no i will try my luck in pre central
lovenokia said:
I thought xda developers and the best devs that i why i came here and asked and it looks like i have no luck no i will try my luck in pre central
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
for android and windows phone. Afaik this is the first webos device on this forum.
SH4YD33 said:
for android and windows phone. Afaik this is the first palm device on this forum.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well xda-dev better have some good some cooking for when i will get my nokia windows phone
Y don't u learn yourself and not expect others to meet your needs
lovenokia said:
well xda-dev better have some good some cooking for when i will get my nokia windows phone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
mattmiller said:
Y don't u learn yourself and not expect others to meet your needs
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would if i knew but i don't know how to do this stuff i am willing to learn if one will teach me.
Go to youtube and search and google and ask other devs to point u the right way...not hard
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
mattmiller said:
Go to youtube and search and google and ask other devs to point u the right way...not hard
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well i obiously posted of what i was looking for and i got the wrong answer, all i got was the chromium in ubuntu which i wasnt looking for.
Even if you could get the sources to compile into something that produces a browser window on the TouchPad, it still wouldn't yield a very pleasant experience. Those sources are for a desktop browser, not a tablet/touch browser. All of the touch-based interaction and gestures you expect on a tablet wouldn't be present, and the UI would be set up for a mouse and keyboard.
Obviously it's possible to change/extend the app for a better tablet experience--the Mozilla guys have done exactly that with Firefox on Android--but it's a HUGE undertaking!
What would be a more realistic goal is trying to figure out what you're missing from Chrome in the TouchPad's browser and try to build a new shell around that browser core similar to Advanced Browser on webOS, Dolphin/Miren on Android, and PerfectBrowser/Atomic Web on iOS. All of these browsers use Webkit as the core rendering engine so the rendered page should be very similar. It's more about the features offered by the browser shell. If your goal is to support Chrome plugins, you're probably SOL, so it's best to decide what are the concrete must-have features that are missing (tabs, form field completion, etc.).
Once the Android port is ready for prime-time, you might just consider moving over to Android and installing either Dolphin or Firefox. Both have many of the features expected from the desktop versions including pretty extensive plugin/extension libraries.
I imagine this response isn't terribly helpful other than in an educational sense, but I hope it helps a bit...
SCWells72 said:
Even if you could get the sources to compile into something that produces a browser window on the TouchPad, it still wouldn't yield a very pleasant experience. Those sources are for a desktop browser, not a tablet/touch browser. All of the touch-based interaction and gestures you expect on a tablet wouldn't be present, and the UI would be set up for a mouse and keyboard.
Obviously it's possible to change/extend the app for a better tablet experience--the Mozilla guys have done exactly that with Firefox on Android--but it's a HUGE undertaking!
What would be a more realistic goal is trying to figure out what you're missing from Chrome in the TouchPad's browser and try to build a new shell around that browser core similar to Advanced Browser on webOS, Dolphin/Miren on Android, and PerfectBrowser/Atomic Web on iOS. All of these browsers use Webkit as the core rendering engine so the rendered page should be very similar. It's more about the features offered by the browser shell. If your goal is to support Chrome plugins, you're probably SOL, so it's best to decide what are the concrete must-have features that are missing (tabs, form field completion, etc.).
Once the Android port is ready for prime-time, you might just consider moving over to Android and installing either Dolphin or Firefox. Both have many of the features expected from the desktop versions including pretty extensive plugin/extension libraries.
I imagine this response isn't terribly helpful other than in an educational sense, but I hope it helps a bit...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks at least i get an idea, so does this mean i have to wait for team touchdroid to get android apps rolling and then just download firefox or dolphin.
lovenokia said:
thanks at least i get an idea, so does this mean i have to wait for team touchdroid to get android apps rolling and then just download firefox or dolphin.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, there are two efforts underway, the primary one to get Android going on the TouchPad hardware, but that's instead of webOS (at least in terms of which OS is running at any given time; they're trying to allow dual-boot so you can switch between them during reboot). In that case, you'd just have an Android tablet with Android apps.
The other effort is to try to get Android's Dalvik VM (virtual machine) going under webOS so that you can run Android apps under webOS. This is the approach taken by RIM with the Blackberry Playbook. Obviously that's a much trickier proposition, and some apps reach around the Dalvik VM into the native Android/Linux APIs. I'm not sure how those fit in with the second approach.
Anyway, neither of these will be ready for prime-time for a while, so for now my best advice is to echo what others have said and recommend you buy Advanced Browser. You'll get a tabbed UI, saved passwords (and form fields, I think), etc. It's not quite what you want, but it's the closest you'll get for some indeterminate period of time.
SCWells72 said:
Well, there are two efforts underway, the primary one to get Android going on the TouchPad hardware, but that's instead of webOS (at least in terms of which OS is running at any given time; they're trying to allow dual-boot so you can switch between them during reboot). In that case, you'd just have an Android tablet with Android apps.
The other effort is to try to get Android's Dalvik VM (virtual machine) going under webOS so that you can run Android apps under webOS. This is the approach taken by RIM with the Blackberry Playbook. Obviously that's a much trickier proposition, and some apps reach around the Dalvik VM into the native Android/Linux APIs. I'm not sure how those fit in with the second approach.
Anyway, neither of these will be ready for prime-time for a while, so for now my best advice is to echo what others have said and recommend you buy Advanced Browser. You'll get a tabbed UI, saved passwords (and form fields, I think), etc. It's not quite what you want, but it's the closest you'll get for some indeterminate period of time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well i want to keep the webos but your saying that you are not sure how porting apps from android to webos will be for the web browser.
lovenokia said:
Well i want to keep the webos but your saying that you are not sure how porting apps from android to webos will be for the web browser.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can't see anyone porting Android browsers such as Dolphin over to webOS, and while it looks like there have been efforts to build Firefox for webOS, it doesn't look like any of them are ready for prime-time. The second of the two options I cited above involves hosting Android apps in webOS directly by implementing a Dalvik VM for webOS. Again, there are folks working on that, but my take is that it has WAY less momentum than the efforts to get Android itself running on the TouchPad hardware, i.e., basically converting the TouchPad from a webOS tablet into an Android tablet.
It's also questionable how well Android apps would run in a Dalvik VM/webOS environment. I know that RIM Playbook's commercial implementation of the same thing requires developers to make some set of changes to their Android apps for them to work on the Playbook, so it's not just a matter of putting a Dalvik VM on webOS, installing the Android Market, and then installing all of the Android apps you want (though that would be SWEET!).
So in summary, right now you would do best to see if Advanced Browser closes the functionality gap enough to keep you happy. For the some indeterminate period of time, it's probably the best option you're going to find.
Of course right after I say something about Dolphin not being ported, it shows up for iOS:
http://www.dolphin-browser.com/
Maybe you should appeal to them to release a version for webOS!
UPDATE: I just sent them a message asking if they'd consider a build for webOS based on that browser component since obviously they can get it working on both the Android and iOS browser components. I don't expect anything to happen, but never hurts to ask.
Is there a way to emulate desktop browser using Chrome for Android?
If you download opera mobile and set user agent to desktop, im pretty sure that's as close to a desktop experience you're gonna get.
lcmazza said:
Is there a way to emulate desktop browser using Chrome for Android?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No. It's something that has been raised by many people with Google so expect it in a later release. Don't forget it's still a beta, so don't hold your breath waiting for this.
No link provided because stupid forums won't allow me that, just search Google Play for "Ubuntu noroot".
This app will install and run a minimal Ubuntu image, no root required, and it will work on a stock ROM (and it does not root your device in the process, it works using fakechroot trick).
The only thing it requires is 500Mb internal phone storage (which is not that unreasonable, my Galaxy Note has 1Gb of that).
It contains huge bunch of bugs, however it provides the ability to run stuff that isn't available for Android, like GIMP or office suites (and I've tested only GIMP).
Most of bugs can be fixed, including 500Mb storage requirement, however that takes crapload of time and effort.
So, is it worth to develop that app any further?
Does no root dependency really give that much ad§vantage over other Linux installers? (and they are not that popular as I see, the most popular one sports 200k-500k downloads. Is that because of root dependency?)
It's possible to wrap individual applications into the fakechroot with minimal Linux environment, maybe it's a better way? What killer apps do you know that are available on Linux but not on Android? (A GIMP for a tablets or Galaxy Note is an obvious choice, however there are already many drawing apps for Android, some of them are even not that bad)
nice idea but i find the fake chroot doesnt do the job...i literaly just see the home screen.but i cant do anythinv else...i cant even log off!!! maybe if you can fix that or even put a official copy of ubuntu on then it might do the job
Sent From The Phone Of Gamers
If this can be made to work or at at least get a good port of openoffice going for my toshiba thrive tab that would be awesome - more than willing to bugtest if needed as this would provide for some functions I have been wanting.
Would love to try ... when it works
I've tried it on a Galaxy Nexus and a Transformer Prime ... both give me only a connection refused.
When I hit the menu button the app crashes.
How can I run it?
LaTex would be nice
If it would "just" to run standard Linux apps like an office; LaTex; Gimp or just MC and joe chroot would be more than enough I suppose, even ssh or sshd should run (on a different port)
It would be worth a try.
Does it work on ICS?
---------- Post added at 05:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:08 PM ----------
Ah the no root is a big advantage! you can keep warranty, and your boss will no kick you where the sun does not shine for messing up ... um his or hers ... precious device.
On a tablet you could run the androd SDK ... shouldn't google provide such a beast?
Gnu text tools like grep sed and awk, or a bash.
Unleash the full power of a whole, complete linux system? why not?
Is there a compiler?
Nope ...
Is this still in development? I have tried 2 of the 4 versions of Ubuntu offered in this app and it loads but when you try to use the internet is gives "input/output" error. I won't use this app unless the Ubuntu installation has network access. My ultimate goal is to install rTorrent on it as my torrent site doesn't allow mobile app clients.
No, the development has stopped.
Any other way of getting ubuntu capable of running rTorrent? I'm willing to root, but would prefer not to. Also if this app isn't being developed for almost a year, why is it still the #1 hit in the app store when you search ubuntu? Man I can't even imagine how many apps out there must be keylogging and farming data on Android devices...
pelya said:
No, the development has stopped.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because?
Now that it's difficult to get root on the Notes 3, would be very useful.
Are also willing to buy the app.
Epic gravedig!
Ubuntu noroot is now Debian noroot, because XFCE runs way better on underpowered devices than Gnome, and Unity does not run at all.
Also it's faster and more robust.
Google Play, sources on GitHub.
A lot of people including myself are looking for a way to run adaway without rooting theirphone.
Would it be possible to run some kind of ad filtering inside Debian and redirect all traffic through that?
Sent from my SM-N910F using XDA Free mobile app
Debian noroot is a regular Android app, it cannot modify the system or other apps, you need root for that.
You can install Iceweasel (unbranded Firefox) with Adblock inside Debian, or Chrome, if you have x86-based device, but it's absolutely not touch friendly, you will need mouse.
It's easier to install Firefox for Android, and then Adblock plugin.
I'm certainly no expert but my idea was to run something like a dns server inside Debian to which all request would be send from android.
Ideally it would use the Debian hosts file.
Sent from my SM-N910F using XDA Free mobile app
You need root to override Android DNS settings.
You already can do somethibg like that using Adblock Plus app - it runs proxy HTTP server, and you put 127.0.0.1 to your WiFi advanced settings as HTTP proxy, but it won't work with 3G or 4G.
For WLAN I can change dns without root, but I have to do it for every access point.
Guess I'll just play around a little.
Sent from my SM-N910F using XDA Free mobile app
There are no root firewall apps for android. They all work by using the VPN api in android to register a fake VPN. Presumably that would allow dns filtering.
Maybe its just me, but I'm hating JB and Android. The TF700 is my first Android device.
#1, its friggin slow. I'm browsing with Firefox and its touch and wait. Its incredibly slow.
#2, you can't multi task anything. At best you can play music while you browse. That is it.
#3, everything is locked down and the apps are not great quality.
I'm speaking compared to running Fedora 17 on a Dell Duo.
As far as I can tell the Dell Duo (Atom) has about the same processing speed as the TF700 (Tegra 3). They both have the same RAM, 1 GB. The Duo has a built in hard drive, but I could probably fit Linux on 32GB and use a SD card for everything else. And a USB drive when necessary.
Linux is so much faster on the Duo than Android is on the TF700. I can have 5 instances of Firefox open on 4 desktops with a couple tabs open in each one. Libre Office works well on the Duo and anything else I need is only a yum command away.
Lots of the Google Play software doesn't really work well. I'm surprised.
Android is a darn clunky OS. I'm surprised at that too.
Example, I want to transfer files from my Linux PC to the TF700 and back, all via my PC.
I do this all the time via Bluetooth with the Duo and with my Nokia N900. Both of these devices have the obex library installed on them. Dolphin in KDE sees the devices and downloads an image of their filesystem to browse. Uploading and downloading is as simple as dragging and dropping files to and from Dolphin.
I've tried several apps from Google play that say they implement obex, but none seem to work. Ironically Linux has an open source obex library freely available. It appears that I would have to root my TF700 in order to install it. On a regular Linux machine its as easy as yum install obex. Or apt-get obex. Or synaptic.
Android's answer to obex seems to be Air Droid. Which works, but doesn't allow me to do anything with the TF700 while I am doing a transfer. And which you have to initiate from the tablet all the time and input a password into the browser client running on the PC. And dragging and dropping files on a browser is not the same as doing it in Dolphin, where I can right click, open a sell and treat the remote device file system like any other file system.
Example, I want to listen to a podcast while I browse websites.
I browsed to a podcast page in Firefox that had streaming MP3 links or iTunes links.
I don't have an iTunes client on my TF700, so that is out. When I right clicked (lonnngggg hold) the streaming MP3 link, it give me 3 options. 1. Open link in new tab. 2. Share link. 3. Bookmark link. None of those does me any good.
If I single press the link, it starts downloading, which is what I want. Only there isn't any UI feedback to tell me its downloading, so I press it 3x while waiting and the file downloads 3x.
At some point a media player starts playing the file. 3X as a matter of fact. But if I leave the page, it stops playing it, even though it has downloaded the file locally.
No problem, its downloaded locally, I'll play it locally. If I then go to Downloads in Firefox and select Open, it doesn't have a file association to start playing the file. It says it can't open the file with the PDF viewer.
So then I have to close Firefox and open the file manager and copy the file to the Music folder because the music player won't find it anywhere else. Then I can click the file and the music player starts playing it.
In Firefox in Fedora, I right click the link and select Open with... and select VLC and it plays. Done. It takes 5 seconds.
I find I can't browse my gmail account very well. I can't do anything on eBay. Amazon is out too. Again and again I am grabbing my Duo to do what I thought I was going to do with my TF700. I thought that Android was going to be this hot shot OS, really powerful, clean, fast, neat. Instead its slow, clunky, locked up and very poorly integrated.
Basically, I'm finding my TF700 to be a useless device due to the OS contraints. Anyone else finding this ?
I'm thinking its time to run Linux natively on my TF700. I haven't a clue how to set that up, the boot part at least. With the Duo it was as simple as getting to the BIOS and booting an install image. How does one do that on the TF700 ? If I ever get Linux installed and I want to go back to JB, is there a way ?
http://www.nvidia.com/content/devzone/linux-for-tegra.html
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA3MjQ
http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/index.php/Fedora_ARM_Secondary_Architecture
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM
Wow. So much hate. If you really want Linux (only one on the way to being ported in this tablet is Ubuntu) you will just have to be patient. A dev here by the name Hiemanshu is working to get it to dual boot with the tablet. I highly doubt you can do it yourself as it requires a lot of Kernel work. Unless you know what you are doing, be my guest. And if you are discontent with the various features Android has to offer, you can always step down and get an iOS product. It is personal preference. This is a great tablet for me and just about the rest of the community here. Root it and install Clean-Rom. You might have something better to say next time. :thumbup:
Sent from my Transformer Pad Infinity TF700T using xda app-developers app
paulxpaul said:
[...]
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+infinity
I'm not even going into these hate posts anymore. Just learn to work with what you've got -- the TF700 serves me pretty well. If you want a desktop experience (that is what you imply by referring to Linux anyway), you should have gotten a freaking laptop instead -- and put some *nix variety on it and be happy. And please do not make an effort to post in here how happy you are with your new setup: we are happy with ours as well.
@MOD: Can we get a lock, please?
For the record, I have 2 laptops in addition to the TF700.
I fail to see what the difference is between a "desktop experience" and what Android tries to implement. I can set Linux up to everything Android does UI wise. What is the Android experience versus the desktop experience ?
I thought the whole Android thing was supposed to be superior web and multimedia functionality. My Linux devices kick my TF700 to the curb. Streamtuner, Amarok, Shairplay, faster browser (Firefox), etc.
Am I missing something ?
unlock, root, go to CleanRom and shush.
Linuxguy1 said:
For the record, I have 2 laptops in addition to the TF700.
I fail to see what the difference is between a "desktop experience" and what Android tries to implement. I can set Linux up to everything Android does UI wise. What is the Android experience versus the desktop experience ?
I thought the whole Android thing was supposed to be superior web and multimedia functionality. My Linux devices kick my TF700 to the curb. Streamtuner, Amarok, Shairplay, faster browser (Firefox), etc.
Am I missing something ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, you're missing:
- Touch Screen capabilities
- Form-factor (I'm sure your laptops are much larger and heavier than your TF700.
- Battery Life - I've yet to see a laptop with the type of battery life I get from my TF700+dock.
- Cheap, plentiful apps - I don't think there are nearly as many 99 cent apps for Linux as there are for Android.
- "removable" screen - let see you pop the screen off of you laptop!
There are clearly a lot of advantages to the TF700+dock over a linux laptop... Just as there are advantages of a Linux laptop over the TF700+dock. It all depends on what you want to do.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
jtrosky said:
Yes, you're missing:
- Touch Screen capabilities
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The duo is touch screen.
- Form-factor (I'm sure your laptops are much larger and heavier than your TF700.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The duo has a built in keyboard and hard drive. By the time you add them to the TF700, there is no size/weight difference.
- Battery Life - I've yet to see a laptop with the type of battery life I get from my TF700+dock.
- Cheap, plentiful apps - I don't think there are nearly as many 99 cent apps for Linux as there are for Android.
- "removable" screen - let see you pop the screen off of you laptop!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
These are mostly hardware advantages. I agree the TF700 rocks hardware wise. Its the OS I don't like.
My Duo came with Windows 7 and I hated it with it. Linux fixed that and now I love it. I think the TF700 would rock running Linux. It would be so much faster running apps natively instead of through the Dalvik/Java VM. Just look at how fast the Nokia N900 is.
Linuxguy1 said:
The duo is touch screen.
The duo has a built in keyboard and hard drive. By the time you add them to the TF700, there is no size/weight difference.
These are mostly hardware advantages. I agree the TF700 rocks hardware wise. Its the OS I don't like.
My Duo came with Windows 7 and I hated it with it. Linux fixed that and now I love it. I think the TF700 would rock running Linux. It would be so much faster running apps natively instead of through the Dalvik/Java VM. Just look at how fast the Nokia N900 is.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, so I was wrong about the touch screen (didn't notice you said Duo) - but all of the other advantages are still true (who would ever hook up a harddrive to the TF700 during normal use)? And the TF700 does have a keyboard (using the keyboard dock). It's still much smaller and lighter than the Duo.
Besides the hardware advantages, the Play Store is a huge advantage. Linux isn't all that great when it comes to general-purpose apps for the end-user.
I absolutely love the TF700 and it perform *great*, especially with CleanROM. Personally, I have absolutely no reason to want a linux laptop - no interest whatsoever. And I'm a Unix admin by trade!
The TF700 is a great device hardware and software-wise. What good is a super fast OS (Linux) without the apps to go with it? That's where Linux falls down - the availability of apps for the end-user... I don't care how fast it is, if the apps aren't there, it's not very useful, in my opinion.... On the other hand, there are hundred of thousands (I think) apps for Android - all written for touch-screen devices. How many touch-screen-enabled apps are available for a Linux laptop?
Again, it all boils down to what you want to do with the device - I like having the flexibility that Android and the TF700 provides. It's plenty fast....
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
Thanks for your replies. I'm, glad this turned into a discussion instead of people hating on me for expressing my displeasure with the TF700.
jtrosky said:
Ok, so I was wrong about the touch screen (didn't notice you said Duo) - but all of the other advantages are still true (who would ever hook up a harddrive to the TF700 during normal use)? And the TF700 does have a keyboard (using the keyboard dock). It's still much smaller and lighter than the Duo.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
By itself, yes. With the dock, not by much. And there is a new Duo coming out, with an i5.
Besides the hardware advantages, the Play Store is a huge advantage. Linux isn't all that great when it comes to general-purpose apps for the end-user.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What does the Google Play have that Fedora doesn't have in its repositories ? Games come to mind, but I'm not a big gamer. I'm running some of the same apps on my TF700 than I use on the rest of my Linux machines. VLC, Firefox, etc. I WISH that Play had a lot of things I take for granted in Linux, like Stream Tuner, Amarok, etc.
I absolutely love the TF700 and it perform *great*, especially with CleanROM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please tell me more about this. Why does it run faster with CleanROM ? I'm at the point where I need to seriously consider installing it.
Personally, I have absolutely no reason to want a linux laptop - no interest whatsoever. And I'm a Unix admin by trade!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
- Being able to use any USB sound device you want.
- Ssh (-X!) without rooting.
- Having BusyBox (and more) without rooting.
- yum.
- KDE 4.9 with multiple desktops.
- Dolphin.
- Libre office <--- without this, the TF700 is a multimedia surfer, not anything more.
- Having access to ALL the plugins for Firefox
I dare you to install Fedora 17 KDE on a laptop and experience it for yourself. I didn't mean to turn this into a Linux versus Android debate, but I see way more missing from Android than missing from Linux.
The TF700 is a great device hardware and software-wise. What good is a super fast OS (Linux) without the apps to go with it? That's where Linux falls down - the availability of apps for the end-user... I don't care how fast it is, if the apps aren't there, it's not very useful, in my opinion....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What apps are you speaking of ?
On the other hand, there are hundred of thousands (I think) apps for Android - all written for touch-screen devices. How many touch-screen-enabled apps are available for a Linux laptop?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Most any app runs quite well on a touchscreen in KDE with the appearance setting tweaked for larger fonts. And there is Plasma-Active, specifically designed for touch devices. In Linux you can switch back and forth between a desktop optimized UI and a touchscreen optimized UI.
Android (and iOS and Win Phone) and all its a app market is designed for tiuchscreen our for our large fingers while desktop experience with windows 7 or linux are about app needing very precise and small mouse/touchpad actions. I don't know about any linux distrib that has a "fingers-oriented" GUI, the same for linux applications who are using menus, buttons, ... all too small for my fingers. .... Unless i'm wrong. Unless you use keyboard and mouse, but this is imho the exact contrary to standard use of touchscreen tablets.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app
---------- Post added at 08:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:15 PM ----------
It's not only font size that makes app touchscreen capable, it's the entir e way the GUI is designed. So i don't believe that kde ans app you list are that really fine on touchscreen : they works but this is natural using
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app
I must be doing something wrong because "normal" apps work just fine on my Duo touchscreen.
And then there is this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulcizzAj-N4
For those that aren't aware, Plasma is a window manager scheme available in KDE.
The plasma demo is very nice but it'll about specific plasma app (web browsing, mails, photo viewer, word & sheet viewer) and no classic linux app like firefox thunderbird, the gimp, ...
Myself i'm sometimes using my android tablet to connect to my win7 pc and that i use win7 and app like chrome, thunderbird, office and i constantly have to zoom in/out to use menus or choose in lists. Not very comfortable
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app
Ghorin said:
The plasma demo is very nice but it'll about specific plasma app (web browsing, mails, photo viewer, word & sheet viewer) and no classic linux app like firefox thunderbird, the gimp, ...
Myself i'm sometimes using my android tablet to connect to my win7 pc and that i use win7 and app like chrome, thunderbird, office and i constantly have to zoom in/out to use menus or choose in lists. Not very comfortable
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed - just because you *can* do something, doesn't mean that it's the best way to do something (or even practical). There is no way that apps which aren't designed for touch screen devices will be as productive as apps that are specifically designed for touch screens... The Linux app ecosystem is not anywhere near as robust as the Android app ecosystem, especially for end users - not even close. Linux OS strengths are geared towards being used as a server operating system - not an end-user operating system.
Have you looked at all of the apps available in the Play Store? The are all written specifically for a touch screen device, unlike Android apps.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
No linux is fine for end-user, gnome or kde or other linux desktop are nearly as much easy to use than any other os desktop. But the same than for win ok mac osx they are for keyboard/mouse use.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app
My Infinity is sucking less lately. An update to Firefox helped immensely. I still find Android clunky compared to Linux, but its liveable. I am going to test Plasma Active on my Duo. I'll report back on how I like it.
As far as apps having to be specifically designed for a touch interface versus a mouse interface, yes and no. I run regular Linux apps on my Duo with the touch screen without any issues. What is the difference in touching an html link on a web page versus a menu item in an app ? Nothing.
I downloaded a couple books in PDF format on my Infinity. It was EXCELLENT at that. LOVE the form factor and the screen. I played with a Samsung 10.1 tablet the other day and I'll take my Infinity over it any day. On the downside, the USB adapter is clunky and constantly falls out of the port, making it nearly unusable.
I'll be very interested in your report about kde plasma. On linux, i've always been a gnome user and a kde disliker ( i tried many times but never liked it). Maybe plasma could make me like kde at last
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app
I hope and wait for ubuntu on my Infinity
Ghorin said:
I'll be very interested in your report about kde plasma. On linux, i've always been a gnome user and a kde disliker ( i tried many times but never liked it). Maybe plasma could make me like kde at last
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When was the last time you tried KDE ? Recent versions of KDE are miles better than even the early 4 series. The late 3 series was feature laden but surely not polished. I find the recent KDE releases to be super polished and very functional. I run 6 desktops with multiple activities. I know of no other desktop environment that can match it.
If you were turned off aesthetically, I am too with some of the KDE themes. I am running the Androbit desktop theme, with 2 panels, one of the top for the desktop and app managers and one at the bottom for program icons.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Its not the prettiest desktop, its pretty vanilla, but it works for me. I could easily improve it if I spent more time. I purposely run a boring desktop wallpaper so that I can easily find icons. Fedora has some great wall papers but they are too busy for my taste.
Having said all that, I'm already running Plasma on the Duo. I'll be testing Plasma Active in the near future.
This is on a 30" Dell U3011. 2560x1600 IIRC, so the icons and text are not as small as they may seem in that picture.
And yes, I have 19 Firefox instances running...
Im supposed to help some friends of mine put together a course on using certain apps on android devices, and similar apps on iOS (ipad, iphone, etc.) I don't have an iPad or iPhone and don't have any means of testing the apps theyre using. I'm perfectly fine with purchasing the apps, but first I need a program to run them on windows. The only program I found thus far is a program called iPadian. but it didn't work at all and installed a LOT of malware. took me 4 hours to clean up. but anyway, Im still on the hunt.
iOS emulator for windows to run iOS apps like on an iPad.