[DEV][WIP][ROM] Gingerbread/ICS Rom With Cross Platform Compatibilty - T-Mobile Sidekick 4G

Ok Maybe this is just a random theory of mine, or just random stupidity, but please follow along here. This is an idea of mine that came from how the HTC Dream and the HTC Sapphire could basically use the same roms, basically because the two phones where so close in spec details. So in theory (taking a device from around the same date, in this case the Sidekick 4g and the Galaxy S 4g) two devices with very, very close specs might work on each other. Ill put the phone specs below.
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Galaxy S 4g
General
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
Announced 2011, January
Status Available. Released 2011, February
Body Dimensions 122.4 x 64.5 x 9.9 mm
Weight 118 g
- Touch-sensitive controls
Display Type Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 480 x 800 pixels, 4.0 inches (~233 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass
- TouchWiz 3.0 UI
Sound Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 16GB card included, buy memory
Internal 1GB ROM, 512 MB RAM
Data GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes, v3.0 with A2DP, EDR
Infrared port No
USB Yes, v2.0 microUSB
Camera Primary 5 MP, 2592 x 1944 pixels, autofocus
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus, face and smile detection
Video Yes, [email protected]
Secondary Yes
Features OS Android OS, v2.2 (Froyo)
Chipset Hummingbird
CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A8
GPU PowerVR SGX540
Sensors Accelerometer, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Mail, IM, RSS
Browser HTML, Adobe Flash
Radio No
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Black and Grey
- Social networking integration
- Qik services for video calls
- MP4/DivX/WMV/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+/AC3/FLAC player
- Organizer
- Image/video editor
- Document editor (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF)
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa integration
- Voice memo/dial/commands
- Predictive text input (Swype)
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1650 mAh
Stand-by Up to 300 h
Talk time Up to 6 h 30 min
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Sidekick 4g
General
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
HSDPA 2100
Announced 2011, March
Status Available. Released 2011, April 20th
Body Dimensions 127 x 61 x 15 mm
Weight 162 g
Keyboard QWERTY
Display Type TFT capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 480 x 800 pixels, 3.5 inches (~267 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
- Optical trackpad
Sound Alert types Vibration, MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 2GB included, buy memory
Internal 1 GB ROM, 512 MB RAM
Data GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes v3.0 with A2DP
USB Yes, microUSB v2.0
Camera Primary 3.15 MP, 2048x1536 pixels, autofocus
Features Geo-tagging
Video Yes, D1 (720x480 pixels) @ 30 fps
Secondary Yes, VGA
Features OS Android OS, v2.2 (Froyo)
Chipset Hummingbird
CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A8
GPU PowerVR SGX540
Sensors Accelerometer, proximity
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Email, IM
Browser HTML, Adobe Flash
Radio Nо
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Matte black, Pearl magenta
- SNS integration
- T-Mobile TV
- MP4/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+ player
- Organizer
- ThinkFree Office document editor (Word, Excel, PowerPoint), PDF viewer
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa integration
- Voice memo
- Predictive text input
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1500 mAh
Stand-by Up to 456 h
Talk time Up to 6 h 30 min
I'm not trying to get the development section of this device's hopes up, but, in theory this might work. So im going to start testing Rom's from the Galaxy S 4g to see if they work on the Sidekick 4g. I know there is another device with the same specs as the Sidekick, but, i sadly dont remember what it was so i cant look into testing Rom's from that device. There is basically no risk from trying this if some people want to try this theory also since this phone is basically unbrickable and you can use the UnBrickable Resuscitator to go back. Ill keep every on up to date with the progress of this and let every one know if and when a rom thats either Gingerbread or ICS works with this. I say again this is just a theory that im going to start testing. Its nothing set in stone.

I wish you the best of luck, I know that other devs ran into huge issues when trying to do this.

U forgot about the drivers to display on the screen that is a major issue
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xtrem88 said:
U forgot about the drivers to display on the screen that is a major issue
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those drivers might come from the Exhibit 4g or the Exhibit 2. the first one came out but for a short time i think

U forgot about the drivers to display on the screen that is a major issue<br />
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What if that was just a rumor lazy devs spread around....???
Its just a driver, like any computer there is a proprietary driver and then there are generic drivers......

If you look at the reference guide I'm working on ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466906 ) you'll see there's no one device which uses all the same components as our Sidekick. But the majority of the hardware in our phone appears in another Android phone. So it might be possible with some mixing and matching.

This was the main problem. Samsung used non-standard parts in building this phone, and by extension, had to rework/rewrite most of the drivers in the process. The SGS4G is the closest that I've found yes, but the video driver is different indeed.
For those who wish to pursue development through this idea, the SGS4G kernel/rom will boot on the SK4G, but none of the drivers work, so you cannot see anything or use the rom. Basically, the SGS4G kernel has the processor components for the GB kernel, but nothing else.
EDIT: took another look at this again today, looks like we'd need some GB bootloaders as well, which we do not have, and need to be built specifically for this phone.

i guess i just dont understand why samsung is so stupid with this, do they realize if they let development fall into the open source community that more people would want this phone?

The random parts probably come from the fact that Magenta wanted this phone to look and feel like the old Sidekicks. Thus, they probably had to scrounge up non-standard parts to get the feel right, then realized they had to code everything different.
My hopes of getting an official GB port are dwindling...=/

HewettBR said:
i guess i just dont understand why samsung is so stupid with this, do they realize if they let development fall into the open source community that more people would want this phone?
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They want more people to drop this phone for one of their new ones.... $$$$ is the only language Samsung speaks
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may be you can try port T759 to T839 the camera is same

The camera is the least of our worries, the issue is that in order to have correctly linked binaries, we need a 2.6.35 kernel on the SK4G.

sduvick said:
The camera is the least of our worries, the issue is that in order to have correctly linked binaries, we need a 2.6.35 kernel on the SK4G.
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That would be so sexy... definitely going to be a frankenstein experiment and a half to get this working. Driver from here, driver from there, and some re-writes over that way. Spoke with Samsung about an update on their end yesterday, they don't know squat as usual.
Best of luck and my cash offer still stands for the guy who gets GB rockin on this device.

MrKickstand said:
Ok Maybe this is just a random theory of mine, or just random stupidity, but please follow along here. This is an idea of mine that came from how the HTC Dream and the HTC Sapphire could basically use the same roms, basically because the two phones where so close in spec details. So in theory (taking a device from around the same date, in this case the Sidekick 4g and the Galaxy S 4g) two devices with very, very close specs might work on each other. Ill put the phone specs below.
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Galaxy S 4g
General
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
Announced 2011, January
Status Available. Released 2011, February
Body Dimensions 122.4 x 64.5 x 9.9 mm
Weight 118 g
- Touch-sensitive controls
Display Type Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 480 x 800 pixels, 4.0 inches (~233 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass
- TouchWiz 3.0 UI
Sound Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 16GB card included, buy memory
Internal 1GB ROM, 512 MB RAM
Data GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes, v3.0 with A2DP, EDR
Infrared port No
USB Yes, v2.0 microUSB
Camera Primary 5 MP, 2592 x 1944 pixels, autofocus
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus, face and smile detection
Video Yes, [email protected]
Secondary Yes
Features OS Android OS, v2.2 (Froyo)
Chipset Hummingbird
CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A8
GPU PowerVR SGX540
Sensors Accelerometer, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Mail, IM, RSS
Browser HTML, Adobe Flash
Radio No
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Black and Grey
- Social networking integration
- Qik services for video calls
- MP4/DivX/WMV/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+/AC3/FLAC player
- Organizer
- Image/video editor
- Document editor (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF)
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa integration
- Voice memo/dial/commands
- Predictive text input (Swype)
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1650 mAh
Stand-by Up to 300 h
Talk time Up to 6 h 30 min
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Sidekick 4g
General
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
HSDPA 2100
Announced 2011, March
Status Available. Released 2011, April 20th
Body Dimensions 127 x 61 x 15 mm
Weight 162 g
Keyboard QWERTY
Display Type TFT capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 480 x 800 pixels, 3.5 inches (~267 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
- Optical trackpad
Sound Alert types Vibration, MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 2GB included, buy memory
Internal 1 GB ROM, 512 MB RAM
Data GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes v3.0 with A2DP
USB Yes, microUSB v2.0
Camera Primary 3.15 MP, 2048x1536 pixels, autofocus
Features Geo-tagging
Video Yes, D1 (720x480 pixels) @ 30 fps
Secondary Yes, VGA
Features OS Android OS, v2.2 (Froyo)
Chipset Hummingbird
CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A8
GPU PowerVR SGX540
Sensors Accelerometer, proximity
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Email, IM
Browser HTML, Adobe Flash
Radio Nо
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Matte black, Pearl magenta
- SNS integration
- T-Mobile TV
- MP4/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+ player
- Organizer
- ThinkFree Office document editor (Word, Excel, PowerPoint), PDF viewer
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa integration
- Voice memo
- Predictive text input
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1500 mAh
Stand-by Up to 456 h
Talk time Up to 6 h 30 min
I'm not trying to get the development section of this device's hopes up, but, in theory this might work. So im going to start testing Rom's from the Galaxy S 4g to see if they work on the Sidekick 4g. I know there is another device with the same specs as the Sidekick, but, i sadly dont remember what it was so i cant look into testing Rom's from that device. There is basically no risk from trying this if some people want to try this theory also since this phone is basically unbrickable and you can use the UnBrickable Resuscitator to go back. Ill keep every on up to date with the progress of this and let every one know if and when a rom thats either Gingerbread or ICS works with this. I say again this is just a theory that im going to start testing. Its nothing set in stone.
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Exhibit 4g (1) has the closest I can find except for our KB and exhibit has a flash. will need a kernel dev to map keyboard lights and several other things. But of coarse it has no support either. ;-(

Dumb questions: are the existing hardware drivers used in Froyo incompatible with Gingerbread? How much work would it be to modify them to work under Gingerbread?

the jump from froyo to Gingerbread would require an updated kernel, which would in turn require modifying them at least somewhat to be compatible. for experienced kernel devs this might not be as difficult as it seems to be to me, but as far as I've tried, it seems to be insurmountable so far.

@Mr.Kickstand: What ever happened to your B2TB rom?
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WolfV2 said:
@Mr.Kickstand: What ever happened to your B2TB rom?
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It's still there, but ive been slowly chipping away at new things at it since ive been extremely busy, a new release is soon though so stay tuned ^_^

Alright good to now, thanks
Glad to know only the thread is inactive, not the dev
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WolfV2 said:
Alright good to now, thanks
Glad to know only the thread is inactive, not the dev
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Well, the way i see it is that people usually just asked questions in the thread, and i think i adressed most of the problems or current bugs. So untill the new release or a bug magically decides to stroll on in i think i addressed everything pretty well in the OP.

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HTC Vigor is rumored to be an Android 2.3.4 smartphone with 1.5GHz Dual-core processor and 720p resolution 4.3" display. It is expected to replace the HTC ThunderBolt in VZW's line. Other details remain unknown. It also features 1GB of RAM, 16 gigs of internal storage, 8-megapixel rear and 2-megapixel front-facing cameras, while on the software front it will run an updated HTC Sense UI, version 3.5
Device type: Smart phone
Network technology:
CDMA:
800, 1900
Form Factor: Candybar
Display:
Resolution:
720 x 1280 pixels
Physical Size: 4.30 inches
Touch Screen:
Yes (Capacitive)
Multi-touch: Yes
Light sensor: Yes
Proximity Sensor: Yes
Software
Smart Phone: Yes
OS:
Android (2.3.4)
Processor: Dual core, 1500 MHz
Memory: 1024 MB RAM
3D Graphics hardware accelerator:
Yes (Qualcomm Adreno 220)
Camera: Yes
Resolution:
8 megapixels
Video capture: Yes
Additional camera: Yes (2 megapixels)
Video Calling: Yes
Multimedia
Music Player: Yes
Video Playback: Yes
YouTube player: Yes
Internet Browsing: Yes
Supports:
HTML, Flash
Location Based Services
Location Based Services:
Yes
Type:
GPS
Navigation:
Yes
Phonebook
Support:
Yes
Capacity:
Capacity depends on system memory
Features:
Caller groups, Multiple numbers per contact, Search by both first and last name, Picture ID, Ring ID
Organizer
Calendar:
Yes
Alarms:
Yes
Other:
Calculator
Messaging
SMS:
Yes
Threaded messaging:
Yes
E-mail:
Yes
Memory
Built-in:
16384 MB
Connectivity
Bluetooth:
Yes
Wi-Fi:
Yes
USB:
Yes
Type:
microUSB
Version:
USB 2.0
Features:
Mass storage device, USB charging
Other features
Sensors:
Accelerometer
Motorola Droid Bionic:
The Motorola DROID BIONIC is the first device on Verizon to marry a dual-core processor with 4G LTE connectivity. A 1GHz dual-core chip along with 1GB of DDR2 RAM will power Android 2.3 Gingerbread on the Bionic. The Droid experience is spiced up with apps like ZumoCast which allows you to stream files wirelessly from a computer to the phone. The DROID BIONIC features an 8-megapixel rear camera and a front-facing shooter. But what truly makes the Bionic stand out is its accessories pack - the handset supports Motorola’s WebTop dock and can connect to the LapDock chassis, transforming into a laptop replacement.
General info
Device type:
Smart phone
Network technology:
CDMA:
800, 1900
LTE:
700
Data:
CDMA Data:
1xEV-DO rev.A
LTE (4G):
Yes
Design
Design:
Form Factor:
Candybar
Dimensions:
5.02 x 2.63 x 0.43 (127.5 x 66.9 x 10.9 mm)
Weight:
5.60 oz (159 g)
the average is 4.4 oz (127 g)
Colors:
Black
Display
Display:
Resolution:
540 x 960 pixels
Physical Size:
4.30 inches
Colors:
16 777 216
Touch Screen:
Yes (Capacitive)
Multi-touch:
Yes
Light sensor:
Yes
Proximity Sensor:
Yes
Scratch-resistant glass:
Yes
Battery
Capacity:
1735 mAh
Talk time:
10.83 hours
the average is 8 h (473 min)
Stand-by time:
200 hours
the average is 401 h (17 days)
Software
Smart Phone:
Yes
OS:
Android (2.3.4)
Processor:
Dual core, 1000 MHz
Memory:
1024 MB RAM
3D Graphics hardware accelerator:
Yes
Camera
Camera:
Yes
Resolution:
8 megapixels
Flash:
Yes (LED)
Features:
Auto focus, Touch to focus, Face detection, Panorama
Video capture:
Yes
Resolution:
1920x1080 (1080p HD)
Additional camera:
Yes
Multimedia
Music Player:
Yes
Supports:
MP3, AAC, eAAC, eAAC+, WMA, WAV, AMR, OGG
Video Playback:
Yes
Supports:
MPEG4, H.263, H.264, XviD
YouTube player:
Yes
Internet browsing
Internet Browsing:
Yes
Supports:
HTML, Flash
Built-in online services support:
Facebook, Photobucket, Picasa, Twitter
Location Based Services
Location Based Services:
Yes
Type:
A-GPS, S-GPS
Navigation:
Yes
Phonebook
Support:
Yes
Capacity:
Capacity depends on system memory
Features:
Caller groups, Multiple numbers per contact, Search by both first and last name, Picture ID, Ring ID
Organizer
Calendar:
Yes
Alarms:
Yes
Document Viewer:
Yes
Other:
Calculator
Messaging
SMS:
Yes
Threaded messaging:
Yes
E-mail:
Yes (IMAP, POP3, SMTP, Microsoft Exchange)
Memory
Memory Expansion:
Slot Type:
microSD, microSDHC
Maximum card size:
32 GB
Built-in:
16384 MB
Connectivity
Bluetooth:
Yes
Version:
2.1
EDR:
Yes
Wi-Fi:
Yes (802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n)
USB:
Yes
Type:
microUSB
Version:
USB 2.0
Features:
Mass storage device, USB charging
Headphones connector:
3.5mm
HDMI:
Yes (Micro HDMI (Type D))
DLNA:
Yes
Other features
Sensors:
Accelerometer, Compass
TTY/TDD:
Yes
Hearing Aid Compatibility:
M3, M4, T3, T4
Availability
Officially announced:
Yes (07 Sep 2011)
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Both seem to have great options. Cant believe HTC didn't make the Vigor 4G LTE compatible. I love both and the options but a lover of sense so ill suffer with 3G.
dclarolh said:
I thought it was 4g.....
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I may have overlooked something but I dont think the Vigor will be. The Bionic is. :-(
eraste said:
Motorola Droid Bionic:
The Droid experience is spiced up with apps like ZumoCast which allows you to stream files wirelessly from a computer to the phone.
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Why would one want to do this? Seems backwards to me.
As to which phone, if the Vigor has LTE I'll go with that. I'm not sure it has been confirmed one way or another yet. Otherwise I'll be looking at the Bionic or the Samsung Galaxy S II.
eraste said:
Both seem to have great options. Cant believe HTC didn't make the Vigor 4G LTE compatible. I love both and the options but a lover of sense so ill suffer with 3G.
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Seems it might have LTE after all but I believe it's still not officially confirmed.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/09/htc-vigor-hits-the-fcc-with-a-dose-of-verizon-lte/
Verizon's LTE lineup just keeps looking better and better all the time. The oft-rumored HTC Vigor is the latest device to pass through the halls of the FCC whilst sporting Big Red's 4G frequencies, along with a handy dose of CDMA / EVDO. HTC's still keeping an uber-tight lid on all of the details of this phone, however, mandating that all of the juicy secrets remain confidential for now.
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I have a Bionic and I am a long time HTC fan. I think that if the Vigor is 4g and the specs hold true to the rumors, you go with the Vigor.
HTC devices typically run a little smoother in a stock rom and usually have very strong dev communities. Motorola probably has better build quality for the most part but HTC does not make Garbage.
I think the faster clock on the processor and the higher screen res tilt it to the Vigor but if any of those specs turn out different, I might reconsider.
The question is, do you want either of these with the Droid/Nexus Prime rumored to be on the way.
gbmitchell said:
I have a Bionic and I am a long time HTC fan. I think that if the Vigor is 4g and the specs hold true to the rumors, you go with the Vigor.
HTC devices typically run a little smoother in a stock rom and usually have very strong dev communities. Motorola probably has better build quality for the most part but HTC does not make Garbage.
I think the faster clock on the processor and the higher screen res tilt it to the Vigor but if any of those specs turn out different, I might reconsider.
The question is, do you want either of these with the Droid/Nexus Prime rumored to be on the way.
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Appreciate your input.
I'm going to hold out and see what the actual specs and cost are if I can, but my old phone is really on its way out. Damaged charging port and bad battery that barely holds a charge any more...
feralicious said:
Appreciate your input.
I'm going to hold out and see what the actual specs and cost are if I can, but my old phone is really on its way out. Damaged charging port and bad battery that barely holds a charge any more...
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HTC has an event on the 20th. Maybe we will hear something then. I imagine on the Prime will follow shortly after that.
gbmitchell said:
HTC has an event on the 20th. Maybe we will hear something then. I imagine on the Prime will follow shortly after that.
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O yea lol ..........
I finally got to play with a Bionic the other day. The physical appearance was certainly handsome, but it was thicker than I had expected it would be for the length of time Motorola took to release it. It was almost the same thickness as the slide-out-keyboard equipped Droid 3. When I was done playing with the Bionic, I went over to the Droid 3 and gave it some more time. I decided the D3 is the better of the two. If I was going to have a thick high-end phone, it would have a good reason for being thick...with a slide-out keyboard.
I have the Charge and took a chance on the Bionic and I'm slightly disappointed. I KNOW Quadrant doesn't mean anything, but if I run my Charge on demand with a clock of up to 1400 Mhz on a single core it can get the same score. Plus I like adw launcher vs the new Moto interface. Something about quickly and easily dropping the 3G vs waiting for Juice Defender Beta to do it is nice and the Super AMOLED PLUS screen is pretty bad a**. I will take the Vigor all day, I agree 100% on the community around HTC and their roms. I will also agree that although it is a rumor, FCC ran the Vigor through with LTE.
eraste said:
I may have overlooked something but I dont think the Vigor will be. The Bionic is. :-(
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the vigor will be an lte device and ill be buying it.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/09/htc-vigor-hits-the-fcc-with-a-dose-of-verizon-lte/
The biggest thing that I am afraid will be wrong about the specs is the screen. If is the hd resolution it is rumored to be and it is not pentile, I want it. If it is the same as current devices I want it less. Also, if the Prime has ICS and I have to wait until q2 of next year to get it on the Vigor or Bionic, then I may want the Prime much more. Then there is the rumor that Prime will be 4.5" and that may be a deal breaker for me.
gbmitchell said:
Also, if the Prime has ICS and I have to wait until q2 of next year to get it on the Vigor or Bionic, then I may want the Prime much more.
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What will that do? Does that let you use your home internet for your phone to lessen your data usage?
Also, what about NFC? Do any of these have that? I haven't seen mention of it.
feralicious said:
What will that do? Does that let you use your home internet for your phone to lessen your data usage?
Also, what about NFC? Do any of these have that? I haven't seen mention of it.
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ICS = Ice Cream Sandwich = Unified Platform
I forgot to mention NFC. Good catch. Not on the Bionic and I have not heard any yays or nays on the Vigor or Prime. However if the Prime is a Nexus device or is based on a Nexus device, I think it is safe to assume that NFC will be built in.
gbmitchell said:
ICS = Ice Cream Sandwich = Unified Platform
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Oh! I googled ICS and came up with Internet Connection Sharing.
Specs aside pentile display is enough. I don't understand how a company can make a screen w visible dots, tell people oh that's just pentile matrix and expect people to be happy. That's a terrible reason for a dotted display. I am dotty if it offends some people but I won't / can't pay money for anything that isn't as clear as other screens available. for any reason. Its a disappointment. Especially when superamoled+ is on the way.
Now specs side...there isn't much to compare. Both are nice solid phones but adreno 220 takes the cake. If HTC died in 4 hours I would still buy it and buy the biggest battery i could lol
stkiswr said:
Specs aside pentile display is enough. I don't understand how a company can make a screen w visible dots, tell people oh that's just pentile matrix and expect people to be happy. That's a terrible reason for a dotted display. I am dotty if it offends some people but I won't / can't pay money for anything that isn't as clear as other screens available. for any reason. Its a disappointment. Especially when superamoled+ is on the way.
Now specs side...there isn't much to compare. Both are nice solid phones but adreno 220 takes the cake. If HTC died in 4 hours I would still buy it and buy the biggest battery i could lol
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The pentile display is weird. I could live with it if there were not higher res non pentile displays on the way. It just makes everything look like instead of putting a flat image in place, they put some kind of texturing. It is weird. That and the whole bootloader thing are the only things holding the Bionic back.
I agree with taking the 3g and go with sense the more i use it the more i like it.
I think htc
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Infinity vs. Huawei MediaPad 10 FHD?

I have already purchased Infinity, but its through the Amazon so have still potential to return. The overall company reputation wise ASUS is superior to Huawei but with some of the issues on Infinity (which all seem to be fixable but whether they be fixed is another topic). Is anyone else considering Huawei's Mediapad 10 FHD as alternative?
Followings are the spec from http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mediapad_10_fhd-4587.php
GENERAL 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA
4G Network LTE
Announced 2012, February
Status Coming soon. Exp. release 2012, Q3
BODY Dimensions 8.8 mm thickness
Weight 598 g
DISPLAY Type IPS LCD, capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 1920 x 1200 pixels, 10.0 inches (~226 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
SOUND Alert types Vibration, MP3 ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes, with stereo speakers
MEMORY Card slot microSD, up to 32GB
Internal 8 GB storage, 2 GB RAM
DATA GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA; LTE
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes, with A2DP, EDR
USB Yes
CAMERA Primary 8 MP, 3264x2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Features Geo-tagging
Video Yes, 1080p
Secondary Yes, 1.3 MP
FEATURES OS Android OS, v4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)
Chipset Huawei K3V2
CPU Quad-core 1.5 GHz K3
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, compass
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Mail, IM
Browser HTML5, Adobe Flash
Radio No
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors White
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail, Talk
- MP3/WAV/WMA/eAAC+/FLAC player
- MP4/WMV/H.263/H.264 player
- Organizer
- Voice memo
- Predictive text input
BATTERY Standard battery, Li-Ion
Stand-by
Talk time​
Here is the video
http://youtu.be/yM9TlNjJ-ss
- This does not use Tegra 3; therefore, no TegraZone for those who wants to play games from TegraZone. However, according to several sites Huawei's quadcore can be up to 30-40% faster than the Tegra 3 with GPU possessing 16 or 18 cores compared to Tegra 3's 12 cores.
- In addition, this is the first android tablet with 2GB of RAM.
- It will have HD screen.
- Downside is 8GB of internal storage. With OS installed I am not sure how much left. Though I saw one site said it has 16 GB space, which is still small but with that I can go as long as it supports 32 or 64 microSD with full speed.
Infinity's performance is most likely restricted by I/O, which may or may not be related to Tegra 3. So better spec CPU/GPU and RAM may not necessary solve the issue. Quite frankly, better performance on CPU/GPU are just speculation and I have not seen official benchmarks (remember GPU on A5X has only 4 cores but superior to the Tegra 3 so #s of cores does not equate to the performance).
My honest hope is that ASUS realize this as potential competition/threat and decides to really fix existing issues on infinity to show what its true power is. Overall, I am truly impressed with infinity where it runs it run extremely smooth without lag, but when I/O issue kicks in that's when things are really noticeable.
What do you all think?
HoushaSen said:
I have already purchased Infinity, .....
GENERAL =2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA
4G Network LTE
Announced 2012, February
Status Coming soon. Exp. release 2012, Q3
BODY Dimensions 8.8 mm thickness
Weight 598 g
DISPLAY Type IPS LCD, capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors​
- Downside is 8GB of internal storage. With OS installed I am not sure how much left. Though I saw one site said it has 16 GB space, which is still small but with that I can go as long as it supports 32 or 64 microSD with full speed.
What do you all think?
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>>have edited the QUIOTED section = for few points to consider::
So lets deal with GENERAL (higher level) topics:
Asus = is generally regarded as "APPLE" of Asia ! Infact if you have the Infinity packing etc ,,, and if ever you have had got ANY APPLE prodcuts , you will see HOW ASUS is 'copying' apple's PACKAGING ... down the the user manual 'envelope' and cables/connectors > let along come up with NEAR APPLE SPECS ( unlike someone esle jsut downright COPYING & and using Apples ha/w parts that they msfger ,,, etc etc
Am no teckie geek (to all teckie > bows .. hail to ya guys...) but I have been using laptops since 1980s ... tablets since the first IPAD ...and so in last 23 yrs haveing travelled 6 Millions ((3 million each with 2 MAJOR airlines FF programs)) > so yes lots of travelling stories of 'broken hardware' when u needed it MOST !!!..........>>>so just some background of where I am based my views >>>>
>>>HowWai (partdon the PUN!) .....often is cheap and nasty is often reffered in manylands as "HAY_WAY" or mind of its OWN!!! so if the specs are to be 'beleived' then at best you will get 2G in place to 3G ,,,, and LTE = based on CHINA TELECOM and maybe not to GSM standards ............blah blah ....(not to mention several CODE/HACK issues thats lots of teckie pple have talked about etc etc....)
>screen = IPS ( seems lot older tech - out of copyright specs is what u get) not the IPS+PLUS
I have been using IPS panel laptops (Thinkpad T60&T61P) since 2007 ... they are shear DELIGHT to view most movies and show PPTS = best best tool to have ... but the IPS+PLUS = like 1000 times better !!
> Cheap PLASTIC backing ( which often distourts and causes HARDWARE failure ( epsecially if u backacker on long trips like me) I prefer a SOLID BACKING ie metal backing (( thats why APPLE and ASUS = did theirs that way!! and SAMSUNG is finding that out fast in their GALAXY ranges)............
Sorry no offence to the ANY of the msfgers , but just some of my personal observations. I have had the ATT tablets from H'ai and after exchanging 12 of them in 6mths , and endless 'tech' issues ( not to mentioned some TECH support tired to do REMOTE LOGIN (without asking for permission first) after i logged in a SUPPORT call..... and finding ' applets/java scripts (to capture my password) ' installed by that guy ----- DONT GIVE ME MUCH comfort ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if not raging MAD !!! you get what you PAY FOR = true here )
So even if you disregard these teckie guy's stupidity ........... ASUS = still rocks in everyway ... Their Specs + Warranty ; Exchange + Tech Support + XDA develeopers acess ............
IMHO ASUS makes it no brainer !! .....:highfive:
>Buying anything from shady chinese company
Also, I've heard bad reviews about Huawei before.
Ausmike said:
>>have edited the QUIOTED section = for few points to consider::
So lets deal with GENERAL (higher level) topics:
>>>HowWai (partdon the PUN!) .....often is cheap and nasty is often reffered in manylands as "HAY_WAY" or mind of its OWN!!! so if the specs are to be 'beleived' then at best you will get 2G in place to 3G ,,,, and LTE = based on CHINA TELECOM and maybe not to GSM standards ............blah blah ....(not to mention several CODE/HACK issues thats lots of teckie pple have talked about etc etc....)
>screen = IPS ( seems lot older tech - out of copyright specs is what u get) not the IPS+PLUS
I have been using IPS panel laptops (Thinkpad T60&T61P) since 2007 ... they are shear DELIGHT to view most movies and show PPTS = best best tool to have ... but the IPS+PLUS = like 1000 times better !!...
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Please guide me were I can read more about IPS+PLUS, cant find any when I google it.

did I get ripped off ?

I bought my first phone last year and it was the Nexus S. I ended up breaking the screen to an unfixable state so when I paid the $100 deductible I was given the Samsung conquer.... The conquer was awful and it gave out only 3 months after I got it. So sprint then gave me the EVO 3D and the guy there acted as if I was getting a "double upgrade" but I'm still wishing I had my nexus. I'm a tech rookie so I was wondering if the sprint guy was right about the EVO 3D being an amazing phone .
Micheal Hastings and his HTC EVO 3D
Looking at the specs I would say you did well 1 GHZ single core CPU to a dual core 1.2GHz Snapdragon:good :good:
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Bluetooth Yes
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General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
SIM Mini-SIM
Announced 2010, December
Status Available. Released 2010, December
Body Dimensions 123.9 x 63 x 10.9 mm (4.88 x 2.48 x 0.43 in)
Weight 129 g (4.55 oz)
- Touch-sensitive controls
Display Type Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 480 x 800 pixels, 4.0 inches (~233 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Oleophobic coating
- Contour Display with curved glass screen
Sound Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory Card slot No
Internal 16GB storage, 512 MB RAM
Data GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes, v2.1 with A2DP
NFC Yes
USB Yes, microUSB v2.0
Camera Primary 5 MP, 2560 x 1920 pixels, autofocus, LED flash, check quality
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus
Video Yes, [email protected]
Secondary Yes, VGA
Features OS Android OS, v2.3 (Gingerbread), v4.1.2, not upgradable to v4.2
Chipset Hummingbird
CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A8
GPU PowerVR SGX540
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Mail, IM, RSS
Browser HTML, Adobe Flash
Radio No
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Black, White
- MP4/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+/AC3 player
- Organizer
- Image/video editor
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa integration
- Voice memo/dial/commands
- Predictive text input
- Near Field Communications
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1500 mAh
Stand-by Up to 713 h (2G) / Up to 428 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 14 h (2G) / Up to 6 h 40 min (3G)
Misc SAR US 0.58 W/kg (head) 0.90 W/kg (body)
SAR EU 0.47 W/kg (head)
Price group [About 230 EUR]
Tests Loudspeaker Voice 68dB / Noise 66dB / Ring 69dB
Audio quality Noise -90.2dB / Crosstalk -90.8dB
Camera Photo
If you broke it there's not much to complain about. At least you have a decent smart phone now that works
muddtt said:
If you broke it there's not much to complain about. At least you have a decent smart phone now that works
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But looking at the fact I originally paid $50 for a nexus then had to pay $100 for a conquer ...
The Micheal Hastings and his HTC EVO 3D

[Q] What to buy these days?

I was looking for a dualsim mobile with at least a 5" or even better 5.5" display.
I looked up the G750 from huawei which looks really nice and seems to be powerful. But are there other recommendations from you. The pricing should be at around max 230 - 250 euro.
You can check out the HTC One M8 Dual Sim version, very reliable device with a 5" display. Very crisp.
Drake008 said:
I was looking for a dualsim mobile with at least a 5" or even better 5.5" display.
I looked up the G750 from huawei which looks really nice and seems to be powerful. But are there other recommendations from you. The pricing should be at around max 230 - 250 euro.
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you should consider one plus one
GENERAL 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 / 1700 / 1800 / 2100 / 2300 / 2600
SIM Micro-SIM
Announced 2014, April
Status Available. Released 2014, June
BODY Dimensions 152.9 x 75.9 x 8.9 mm (6.02 x 2.99 x 0.35 in)
Weight 162 g (5.71 oz)
DISPLAY Type LTPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 1080 x 1920 pixels, 5.5 inches (~401 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes, up to 10 fingers
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 3
- CyanogenMod 11S
SOUND Alert types Vibration; MP3 ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes, dual mono speakers
3.5mm jack Yes
MEMORY Card slot No
Internal 16/64 GB, 3 GB RAM
DATA GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.8 Mbps; LTE, Cat4, 50 Mbps UL, 150 Mbps DL
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth v4.1, A2DP
NFC Yes
USB microUSB v2.0, USB On-the-go, USB Host
CAMERA Primary 13 MP, 4128 x 3096 pixels, autofocus, dual-LED flash, check quality
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, panorama, HDR
Video [email protected], 2160p(DCI)@24fps, [email protected], [email protected], HDR, stereo sound rec., check quality
Secondary 5 MP, [email protected]
FEATURES OS Android OS, v4.4.2 (KitKat), upgradable to v4.4.4 (KitKat)
Chipset Qualcomm MSM8974AC Snapdragon 801
CPU Quad-core 2.5 GHz Krait 400
GPU Adreno 330
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, IM, Push Email
Browser HTML5
Radio No
GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Silk White, Sandstone Black
- SNS integration
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- MP4/H.263/H.264/WMV player
- MP3/eAAC+/WMA/WAV/FLAC player
- Organizer
- Document viewer
- Photo viewer/editor
- Voice memo/dial/commands
- Predictive text input
BATTERY Non-removable Li-Po 3100 mAh battery
Stand-by
Talk time
MISC SAR US 0.62 W/kg (head) 0.75 W/kg (body)
Price group About 220 EUR
TESTS Performance Basemark OS II: 1196 / Basemark X: 13129
Display Contrast ratio: 799 (nominal), 1.961 (sunlight)
Camera Photo / Video
Loudspeaker Voice 74dB / Noise 73dB / Ring 80dB
Audio quality Noise -94.1dB / Crosstalk -94.3dB
Battery life
Endurance rating 66h
Sanyam Jhingan said:
you should consider one plus one
GENERAL2G NetworkGSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G NetworkHSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G NetworkLTE 700 / 1700 / 1800 / 2100 / 2300 / 2600
SIMMicro-SIM
Announced2014, April
StatusAvailable. Released 2014, June
BODYDimensions152.9 x 75.9 x 8.9 mm (6.02 x 2.99 x 0.35 in)
Weight162 g (5.71 oz)
DISPLAYTypeLTPS LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size1080 x 1920 pixels, 5.5 inches (~401 ppi pixel density)
MultitouchYes, up to 10 fingers
ProtectionCorning Gorilla Glass 3
- CyanogenMod 11S
SOUNDAlert typesVibration; MP3 ringtones
LoudspeakerYes, dual mono speakers
3.5mm jackYes
MEMORYCard slotNo
Internal16/64 GB, 3 GB RAM
DATAGPRSYes
EDGEYes
SpeedHSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.8 Mbps; LTE, Cat4, 50 Mbps UL, 150 Mbps DL
WLANWi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetoothv4.1, A2DP
NFCYes
USBmicroUSB v2.0, USB On-the-go, USB Host
CAMERAPrimary13 MP, 4128 x 3096 pixels, autofocus, dual-LED flash, check quality
FeaturesGeo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, panorama, HDR
[email protected], 2160p(DCI)@24fps, [email protected], [email protected], HDR, stereo sound rec., check quality
Secondary5 MP, [email protected]
FEATURESOSAndroid OS, v4.4.2 (KitKat), upgradable to v4.4.4 (KitKat)
ChipsetQualcomm MSM8974AC Snapdragon 801
CPUQuad-core 2.5 GHz Krait 400
GPUAdreno 330
SensorsAccelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
MessagingSMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, IM, Push Email
BrowserHTML5
RadioNo
GPSYes, with A-GPS, GLONASS
JavaYes, via Java MIDP emulator
ColorsSilk White, Sandstone Black
- SNS integration
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- MP4/H.263/H.264/WMV player
- MP3/eAAC+/WMA/WAV/FLAC player
- Organizer
- Document viewer
- Photo viewer/editor
- Voice memo/dial/commands
- Predictive text input
BATTERY Non-removable Li-Po 3100 mAh battery
Stand-by
Talk time
MISCSAR US0.62 W/kg (head) 0.75 W/kg (body)
Price groupAbout 220 EUR
TESTSPerformanceBasemark OS II: 1196 / Basemark X: 13129
DisplayContrast ratio: 799 (nominal), 1.961 (sunlight)
CameraPhoto / Video
LoudspeakerVoice 74dB / Noise 73dB / Ring 80dB
Audio qualityNoise -94.1dB / Crosstalk -94.3dB
Battery life
Endurance rating 66h
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I'm just wondering, why are you "Thanking" every post of yours?
I thought maybe its me so I went in and checked around and it's quite obvious that the person thanking you has thanked almost every post you've made.
One of the rules here at XDA is (Do not have multiple accounts, one account is more than enough.)
And what's it with people trying to get thanks, people will thank you when they feel that they have been helped or like something in particular that you did.
Anyways I hope you get what I mean, but I do apologise if I am wrong. But I highly doubt that the account that keeps thanking every post of yours is someone else.
TheArc said:
I'm just wondering, why are you "Thanking" every post of yours?
I thought maybe its me so I went in and checked around and it's quite obvious that the person thanking you has thanked almost every post you've made.
One of the rules here at XDA is (Do not have multiple accounts, one account is more than enough.)
And what's it with people trying to get thanks, people will thank you when they feel that they have been helped or like something in particular that you did.
Anyways I hope you get what I mean, but I do apologise if I am wrong. But I highly doubt that the account that keeps thanking every post of yours is someone else.
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First of all,I only have one account on xda and the guy who is thanking my every post is just a fan or something.He messaged me that he is my biggest fan but I suspect that he is not a real person and is doing this just to gain attention.
Also,I dont get anything even if I get 10,000 thanks than why would I make a fake id for which I dont even have time to thank me on my each and every post.
Sanyam Jhingan said:
First of all,I only have one account on xda and the guy who is thanking my every post is just a fan or something.He messaged me that he is my biggest fan but I suspect that he is not a real person and is doing this just to gain attention.
Also,I dont get anything even if I get 10,000 thanks than why would I make a fake id for which I dont even have time to thank me on my each and every post.
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Lol a fan, yeah right. Well it doesn't bother me. If a mod finds out then they can check the ip's and tell if the accounts the same person.
TheArc said:
Lol a fan, yeah right. Well it doesn't bother me. If a mod finds out then they can check the ip's and tell if the accounts the same person.
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You can check whenever you want..!!!
The title of the thread: WHAT TO BUY THESE DAYS
In it two people fighting over me.....Interesting.....very Interesting
What does dual Sim mean actually?
Like having 2 numbers but one phone?
sent from your moms phone
93fuelslut said:
What does dual Sim mean actually?
Like having 2 numbers but one phone?
sent from your moms phone
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Dual sim means having two sims in one phone i.e 2 numbers but one phone.
Hit thanks if this post helped you in anyway.
Sanyam Jhingan said:
Dual sim means having two sims in one phone i.e 2 numbers but one phone.
Hit thanks if this post helped you in anyway.
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So dual Sims is for having 2 numbers but one phone ?
That seems like a head ache
sent from your moms phone
93fuelslut said:
So dual Sims is for having 2 numbers but one phone ?
That seems like a head ache
sent from your moms phone
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Nope. It is necessary when you have one number as prepaid number and another one is just for Data (like mailo internet etc.)
It seems the OnePlusOne is just a phone you get when you have an invitation, has no dual sim and it is too expensive. When I Import it. There comes around 22 percent customs and taxes on the price.
Saw a preview of the motorola turbo. Just curious if any ROMs will be available
sent from your moms phone
Drake008 said:
I was looking for a dualsim mobile with at least a 5" or even better 5.5" display.
I looked up the G750 from huawei which looks really nice and seems to be powerful. But are there other recommendations from you. The pricing should be at around max 230 - 250 euro.
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I just ordered the asus zenfone 5" they also have a 4" & 6" I think its intel 1.6ghz cpu duel core but multi thread technology faster than most quad core hd display etc. Etc. I only paid $155 n its duel sim if you want the best hardware out for the least money try the one+one for under $400 bucks
Danny Pipes

Rom?

So I've had my Verizon galaxy note pro 12.2 for about a month rooted it... So now what the deal with roms for this thing haven't seen any.... are they being worked on?
Soulripper180 said:
So I've had my Verizon galaxy note pro 12.2 for about a month rooted it... So now what the deal with roms for this thing haven't seen any.... are they being worked on?
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unfortunately this is a combined thread for all note pro 12.2 it seems.. and the only roms ive noticed have been for the P900 only .. wondering if having a specific one for each of the others like att/vzw/tmo, etc would help.. not sure it would..
not savvy enough to know if it would be possible to port in a sense the p900 ones to make them work with the others like the 905 etc.
From my Fired-up Note Pro 12.2!
This is already a very market-specific device, and then you go buy the variant that is for an even smaller market, hoping there will be ROMS for a device owned by maybe 40 XDA users? Not bloody likely.
ShadowLea said:
This is already a very market-specific device, and then you go buy the variant that is for an even smaller market, hoping there will be ROMS for a device owned by maybe 40 XDA users? Not bloody likely.
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p905 has other platform than p900 (snapdragon vs exynos), so porting something between p900 and p905 is quite difficult
Are there any issues with the bootloader being locked or anything like that on the Verizon version?
Oh wow I wish it had more support had no idea they were that different... well at least I have root
Yeah back when I'd use my Verizon galaxy tab 10.1 I would be one of the beta testers for the guy that was developing the kernel for cm 10 support for the tablets in that model line (great dev named Pershoot). He would put in countless hours trying to piece together something that would support all of the variants and I would flash test ROMs over and over again to verify that all features worked. That experience taught me to avoid a US carrier branded android tablet if I wanted to tinker with roms lol. I haven't seen anyone developing like that here yet. It's an impressive commitment developers make.
Sent from my SM-P900 using Tapatalk
Hey, we now have a debloated stock ROM and CM11 ROM, both with custom kernels!
P905 ROMS
Okay,
I'm also fed up with waiting for cyanogen to port their ROM to the P905; so I decided to give it a go myself.
I checked the hardware for the P905 and noticed that it is nearly identical to the note 10.1 lte 2014 edition, for which a ROM already exists.
Specs for the Note 10.1 lte ( sm-p605 )
Available as:
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 SM-P600 Wi-Fi
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 SM-P601 3G
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 SM-P605 3G+LTE
SM-P600 model has no support for GSM voice communication, SMS, and MMS
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all versions
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - all versions
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-P605
SIM Micro-SIM
Announced 2013, September
Status Available. Released 2013, October
Body Dimensions 243.1 x 171.4 x 7.9 mm (9.57 x 6.75 x 0.31 in)
Weight 540g (WIFI)/ 535 g (3G)/ 547g (LTE) (1.18 lb)
- S Pen stylus
Display Type Super clear LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 2560 x 1600 pixels, 10.1 inches (~299 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes, up to 10 fingers
- Samsung TouchWiz UI
Sound Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes, with stereo speakers
3.5mm jack Yes
- Dolby mobile sound enhancement
Memory Card slot microSD, up to 64 GB
Internal 16/32/64 GB, 3 GB RAM
Data GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 42 Mbps (LTE model), 21 Mbps (3G model); HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat4, 50 Mbps UL, 150 Mbps DL
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth v4.0, A2DP
Infrared port Yes
USB microUSB v2.0 (MHL), USB Host, USB On-the-go
Camera Primary 8 MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash, check quality
Features Geo-tagging, face/smile detection
Video [email protected] (LTE model), check quality
Secondary 2 MP, [email protected]
Features OS Android OS, v4.3 (Jelly Bean)
Chipset Qualcomm Snapdragon 800
CPU Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400 (LTE model)/ Quad-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7 (3G model)
GPU Adreno 330 (LTE model)
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Mail, IM
Browser HTML5
Radio No
GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Black, White
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- TV-out (via MHL A/V link)
- MP4/DivX/XviD/WMV/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+/FLAC player
- Organizer
- Photo/video editor
- Document viewer
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa
- Voice memo/dial
- Predictive text input (Swype)
Battery Non-removable Li-Po 8220 mAh battery
Stand-by Up to 2230 h
Talk time Up to 10 h (multimedia) (2G) / Up to 49 h (3G)
Music play Up to 98 h
Misc SAR US 1.59 W/kg (body)
SAR EU 0.64 W/kg (body)
Price group
Tests Display Contrast ratio: 821:1 (nominal)
Camera Photo / Video
Loudspeaker Voice 75dB / Noise 66dB / Ring 77dB
Audio quality
And the specs for our beloved ( sm-p905 )
 
Also known as Samsung SM-P905
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
SIM Micro-SIM
Announced 2014, January
Status Available. Released 2014, March
Body Dimensions 295.6 x 204 x 8 mm (11.64 x 8.03 x 0.31 in)
Weight 753 g (1.66 lb)
- S Pen stylus
Display Type Super clear LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 2560 x 1600 pixels, 12.2 inches (~247 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes, up to 10 fingers
- Samsung TouchWiz UI
Sound Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes, with stereo speakers
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory Card slot microSD, up to 64 GB
Internal 32/64 GB, 3 GB RAM
Data GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 42.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat4, 50 Mbps UL, 150 Mbps DL
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth v4.0, A2DP
Infrared port Yes
USB microUSB v3.0 (MHL), USB Host
Camera Primary 8 MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Features Geo-tagging, face/smile detection
Video [email protected]
Secondary 2 MP, [email protected]
Features OS Android OS, v4.4 (KitKat)
Chipset Qualcomm Snapdragon 800
CPU Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400
GPU Adreno 330
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, compass
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Mail, IM
Browser HTML5
Radio No
GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Black, White
- TV-out (via MHL A/V link)
- MP4/DivX/XviD/WMV/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+/FLAC player
- Organizer
- Photo/video editor
- Document viewer
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa
- Voice memo/dial
- Predictive text input (Swype)
Battery Non-removable Li-Ion 9500 mAh battery
Stand-by
Talk time Up to 10 h 30 min (multimedia) (2G) / Up to 51 h (3G)
Music play Up to 188 h
Misc SAR US 1.57 W/kg (body)
SAR EU 0.76 W/kg (body)
I've tried downloading the ROM that is available for the sm-p605, but it can not simply be flashed on the p905 of course.
Give me some time to look at it and I'll post here as soon as I get it working.
Greets.
Here's my take on roms for the Note Pro....if you're rooted & have Xposed installed you really don't NEED to flash a rom. You can customize the stock rom the way you want for the most part. I know some developers also tweak the performance in their roms but the Note Pro is quite fast stock. What feature do you really need that can not be added with Xposed?
mikespe said:
Here's my take on roms for the Note Pro....if you're rooted & have Xposed installed you really don't NEED to flash a rom. You can customize the stock rom the way you want for the most part. I know some developers also tweak the performance in their roms but the Note Pro is quite fast stock. What feature do you really need that can not be added with Xposed?
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Not much, I guess, I just don't like Samsungs TouchWiz, for starters, I know there are different launchers out there, but I want it gone from my system.
The same goes for those who have the p900, they already have ROM's available, then why shouldn't we, p905 owners?
But thanks for the input though.

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