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Guide to Nexus S and EVO3D

Excited by the announcement of the new Sprint phones?
Not sure which one to get?
Here's a user-friendly guide in layman's English to help you decide between the two.
I originally posted this (here) on the EVO General forum, but I'm deciding to reach out the Shift community.
If you see anything incorrect or missing, please let me know!
I'll start with the Nexus S 4G
Software:
Ships with Gingerbread
Will receive upgrades first
Will likely run Icecream (HC reworked for phones)
AOSP
No bloatware, and no Sprint apps
Hardware:
1GHz Hummingbird Processor
512MB RAM
4" Super AMOLED screen
16gb internal storage
NO MicroSD card slot
NFC Capability
5MP rear camera
VGA Front camera
1500 mAh Li-ion battery
GPU rated as good, if not slightly better than EVO3D's Adreno 220**
Unique Contour display*
*The contour display can best be seen here. Essentially, the display curves slightly at the ends and reviews have reported it feeling nice against your face. Aside from the feel, the SAMOLED display grants more vivid colors, more luminance, and more contrast, making text easy to read at most sizes.
**Which means the Nexus S will be able to display graphics on a similar caliber of the EVO3D, which is much higher than the EVO.
Layman's terms? Have you noticed how bad the N64 Emulator is on the EVO? It should run beautifully on the Nexus S, and even better on the EVO3D.
Release date: "Spring" 2011
Price: $199 on contract
Form:
An important spec of phones to some users is also their outside form. Here's what we've got on the Nexus
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Size and weight:
63mm x 123.9mm x 10.88mm
129g
4" contour display
Feel: CNET and user reviews say it feels light, and the material feels ´lighter´without metal parts.
This will make it feel more airy, smaller, and less bulky than the current EVO, which is very similar to the EVO3D
Users have reported a 'cheapy' plastic feel to the Nexus S, similar to the Epic. Other than that, there's no decision one way or another if that could be an issue when dropping the phone.
Advice? Don't drop your phone, no matter which model. Or buy a case of some sort.
Summary:
If you end up selling your EVO for $200 (easily done), you'll be able to upgrade to this phone for free. Why would you do that? Well, it's free, and it's a hardware and, eventually, a software upgrade from the EVO. While it boasts almost the same specs as the EVO, the processor is newer and the screen displays more colors with more vibrance.
Currently, the TMO Nexus S has benchmarks that run circles around the EVO and battery life that has been reported to last ~20 hours off-charger. Sound good to you? Same to me.
The phone will definitely last you through 2011, and likely a good chunk, if not all, of 2012. I anticipate it will also be receiving Android versions 2.4 and 3.1 (If that's Ice Cream), which will be more than capable of running on this phone, even if Quad-Core phones are released and run it as well.
Aside from the hardware, the software will be top-notch. You'll receive the latest Android software updates as soon as they're released, and the dev community should be buzzing on this phone, considering its AOSP nature.
Who is this phone good for?
Economically-minded users who want a boost from their current EVO and/or want a great developing experience. If the latest and greatest Google software is your thing, this phone is for you. Keep in mind that Nexus S already runs the Honeycomb SDKs and it will be a breeze to port the AOSP Honeycomb to the Nexus S once the source is released. Further more, AOSP will finally be developing code for WiMax chips, which will help ROMs like CM in incorporating WiMax. You'll also get WiMax on CM8 (When released) first, most likely.
Additional:
Miss having an LED notification light?
Here's your solution: BLN (Back Light Notifications)
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-s-receives-bln-notifications-thanks-xda

Intro:
"How do you follow up one of the most popular, most successful, biggest and fastest phones of 2010? In the case of the recently announced Sprint HTC EVO 3D, you give it a higher resolution screen, 3D recording and playback capability, and you open up a whole new world of user generated content. Oh, and you make it even faster and more powerful."
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EVO 3D
Software:
Ships with Gingerbread
Includes Sense 2.0 (?)
Includes Sprint Software
Hardware:
1.2 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon dual-core processor
1GB RAM (Which can be expanded* into the External Storage, giving you up to 5GB RAM, which diminishes as you fill internal storage, down to a minimum of 1GB)
1GB Internal Storage (Previous rumors stated 4GB. This still isn't clear or confirmed at all either way.)
4.3" 3D qHD Display with a resolution of 960x540
Expandable memory: 8GB microSD card included: supports up to 32GB
Dual 5 MP cameras used to capture 3D images and videos
1.3MP front-facing camera
1730 mAh Li-ion battery
HDMI port
No kickstand... Devastating, I guess?
*Much like a page file on a PC This has also been pointed out as a rumor, and is MOST LIKELY NOT TRUE
Form:
The EVO3D is similar in look and shape to the EVO. Here's what we've got
Size and Weight:
126mm x 65mm x 12.05mm (4.96" x 2.56" x 0.47")
170 grams (6.0 ounces) with the battery
Feel:
Taken from Engadget's hands-on review:
"As we'd mentioned in our hands-on, we immediately noticed that the EVO 3D didn't feel particularly heavy or bulky in the hand; in fact, we would've guessed that it was a bit lighter than the 4G. Well, turns out they're almost exactly the same weight -- holding the two one right after the other, we couldn't detect a difference.
As for dimensions, the 4G is actually wider -- the 3D's quite a bit more manageable when you're holding it, especially if you don't have giant paws -- and they're right around the same thickness."
Price: unknown
Release date: "Summer" 2011 (June)
Summary:
If you want the latest Sprint power-phone with latest industry hardware and technology - You won't be disappointed. While there are mixed reviews and feelings about the 3D feature of the phone, it seems that 3D is completely optional and is simply an added bonus for buying this already great phone.
Battery life is undetermined right now. While it boasts an industry-leading 1730 mAh Li-ion battery and the processor is some times number more efficient than the current EVO, people speculate it to have as much batter life as the current EVO.
In short: Like your EVOs now, this phone will be fast, bold, and furious, taken to a new extreme.
EDIT: Since the question has been asked on the forums, I've done a little bit of research:
How will the EVO 3D's display hold up against iPhone 4's?
To answer it shortly, the EVO 3D has a slightly lower resolution (960x540) than the iPhone 4 (960x640). Being that the EVO3D has a larger screen and a lower resolution, this means that the PPI (pixels per inch) will be lower, resulting in a slightly less sharp display.
Who is this phone good for?
Power-users who want only the best for themselves. Want to play the latest 3D graphics-intensive games on your phone? EVO3D is for you (please don't mistake 3D graphics for 3D images)
If you buy into the 3D thing, you'll also be able to shoot and view photos and videos in 3D.
This phone has power, screen size, and speed that make it worthwhile to keep far into the future.

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dirkyd3rk said:
Great thread gmap heres a video for people who want to see differences in screens bud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1-zJ-MPR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Thanks!
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They offer $150 for you to switch from them, if you buy a smart phone. Pretty nice deal!
Deal running through 4/16, but call Sprint to check.

I'm good with my Shift. Thanks.

This thread has been reported to theimpaler747 as it has nothing to do with the HTC EVO 4G.

Sigh......

Moved to XDA general.

Did they really edit the title of this thread too?
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I really wish Verizon would get a stock developer Android phone.
Nexus Two? One can dream.

what hardware would you like to see wp7 on?

Well, we all have our dream phones, with realistic specs what type of hardware would you like to see WP7 on given mangos full range of possible hardware?
I want to see a device similar in style to the venue pro with a much needed update.
I'd like to see it with the 1.5g Qualcomm, at least 512 on the ram, 32 gigs storage under the hood at least, a samoled+ display, a bit thinner and perhaps lighter, a front facing camera, and a nice set of speakers.
I honestly think the dvp is the sexiest piece of hardware on the mobile market, underpowered or not. I essentially just want to see the hardware updated to keep up with the OS.
So, what's your dream windows phone?

More internal memory (32GB+), processor a bit faster (doesn't have to be dual core for my taste) and a bit more RAM to handle future updates/features, up-to-date screen technology (SAMOLED+, LG's new Ultra AMOLED or IPS etc) with higher resolution, great camera, solid and heavy build (I HATE the flimsy phones out there today, and my Omnia 7 feels so nice in the hand).

Iphone size, front is completely display filled, back is completely battery, 3000mah, dual core anything, bluetooth, wifi, LTE, noise cancelling, 720p w nice macro, no lense bezel!, flash, external antennae port (HELLLLLOOOOO), WATER PROOF, and a landscape slider querty.
Also, if its possible:
Dlna
Microsd
All bands gsm, for every carrier, worldwide
Rfid
Ir
Might as well dream huh ?

Unfortunately, Windows CE 6 only allows up to 512 megs of RAM and single core :/ They better get over this hurdle sometime soon.

High resolution SAMOLED 4" screen (none of this 800x480 stuff)
2nd gen Snapdragon - I would actually prefer hummingbird - but I don't think MS supports those.
Aluminum & Rubber body
Thin/sleek keyboardless profile - or I would take the vertical slider form-factor of the Venue Pro
NFC
1500 mAh battery

PG2G said:
Unfortunately, Windows CE 6 only allows up to 512 megs of RAM and single core :/ They better get over this hurdle sometime soon.
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WTF. I didn't know that was the case. Severely limiting spec.

hwalker84 said:
WTF. I didn't know that was the case. Severely limiting spec.
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Yeah, unfortunately: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_CE
They say WP7 is based on Win CE 6.0 with some features from Win CE 7.0. I don't know which features, but the specs we're seeing on these devices are a good hint.
The transition to Windows 8 core can't come soon enough!

PG2G said:
Unfortunately, Windows CE 6 only allows up to 512 megs of RAM and single core :/ They better get over this hurdle sometime soon.
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thats not true (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee483001(v=winembedded.60).aspx) "sory this is for virtual memory"
also wp7 isnt based on win ce 6.0, its based on parts of win ce 7
edit: ys limit for win ce 6.0 is 512 MB http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa913548.aspx sory for false information

imotz said:
also wp7 isnt based on win ce 6.0, its based on parts of win ce 7
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Considering Win CE 7.0 wasn't out until March 2011, its pretty safe to say that Windows Phone 7 is more Win CE 6.0 than it is Win CE 7.0. The 7.0 parts are probably IE 7.0, Silverlight, and so on.

Forget all the specs...all I want is more phones with PHYSICAL buttons on the front. I can't wait for the day I stop accidentally popping into Bing search...as beautiful as those images are on the home screen

- 1.4/1.5 GHz 2nd gen Qualcomm S2 SoC (Scorpion/Adreno 205 combo) is enough a speed bump from previous gen Snapdragons (+40-50% speed bump, Adreno205 over 2x more capable than 200, 45nm more energy efficient that 65nm Snapdragons). The os doesn't need a dual core SoC, but if that would give us 1080p video decoding/recording, yes please!
- 1930 mAh batteries in top phones, 1500 mAh minimum to the rest
- DLNA to EVERY phone
- miniHDMI
- Front facing camera to EVERY phone
- Displays with sizes covering 3.2'' - 4.5'' spectrum, using newest technologies (Samsung SuperAmoLED Plus, LG NOVA, Nokia ClearBlack)
- WiFi Direct and/or NFC with PushObject functionality on top of the range devices (Nokia will take care of this)
- Quality 8Mpx+ lenses (I think Nokia will do its magic again)
- Stereo Speakers, Voice canceling mics
- Xenon (powerful, not like on Mozart) flash for photographic-centric devices
- Top models with more than 512MB Ram (well if there is a restriction by Windows CE 6.0, ABOLISH it ), more RAM will be needed with Mango multitasking
- 3D glass-free screens (I'm not very demanding about it, but it would be ok to have as an option and catch up with competition)
- 720p video capture @ 30fps (that's sw related but what the heck let's mention it). If we can have dual core chips onboard then give us the 1080p treatment.

chemeng said:
- 1.4/1.5 GHz 2nd gen Qualcomm S2 SoC (Scorpion/Adreno 205 combo) is enough a speed bump from previous gen Snapdragons (+40-50% speed bump, Adreno205 over 2x more capable than 200, 45nm more energy efficient that 65nm Snapdragons). The os doesn't need a dual core SoC, but if that would give us 1080p video decoding/recording, yes please!
- 1930 mAh batteries in top phones, 1500 mAh minimum to the rest
- DLNA to EVERY phone
- miniHDMI
- Front facing camera to EVERY phone
- Displays with sizes covering 3.2'' - 4.5'' spectrum, using newest technologies (Samsung SuperAmoLED Plus, LG NOVA, Nokia ClearBlack)
- WiFi Direct and/or NFC with PushObject functionality on top of the range devices (Nokia will take care of this)
- Quality 8Mpx+ lenses (I think Nokia will do its magic again)
- Stereo Speakers, Voice canceling mics
- Xenon (powerful, not like on Mozart) flash for photographic-centric devices
- Top models with more than 512MB Ram (well if there is a restriction by Windows CE 6.0, ABOLISH it ), more RAM will be needed with Mango multitasking
- 3D glass-free screens (I'm not very demanding about it, but it would be ok to have as an option and catch up with competition)
- 720p video capture @ 30fps (that's sw related but what the heck let's mention it). If we can have dual core chips onboard then give us the 1080p treatment.
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That sounds good to me. I don't care about the 3D screen though.
I'm sure and hope Nokia make some decent wp7 devices with Carl Zeis lenses and xenon flash (Like the N8 but updated obv).

Oh well, at least I can tell you what hardware I don't want to see WP7 on:
http://www.gsmarena.com/leaked_slide_shows_nokia_703_windows_phone_7_handset-news-3075.php
MEH! I'll keep my Omnia 7 if the other phones won't have much better specs than that.

Something like this would be quite okay:
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I'll take the HTC Omega, add a sliding qwerty and at least 16 gigs of mem and maybe a little more ram that 512.

chemeng said:
- 1.4/1.5 GHz 2nd gen Qualcomm S2 SoC (Scorpion/Adreno 205 combo)
- 1930 mAh batteries in top phones, 1500 mAh minimum to the rest
- DLNA to EVERY phone
- miniHDMI
- Front facing camera to EVERY phone
- Displays with sizes covering 3.2'' - 4.5'' spectrum, using newest technologies (Samsung SuperAmoLED Plus, LG NOVA, Nokia ClearBlack)
- Quality 8Mpx+ lenses (I think Nokia will do its magic again)
- Voice canceling mic
- 720p video capture @ 30fps
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So far, from the HTC event in London, those are the new ''features'' that have been confirmed... Battery-wise both devices carry an >1500mAh battery, both devices have a front-facing camera, the high-end model has got mini-HDMI, both handsets support DLNA, the 3.8''/4.5'' selection is ok, and those 28mm lenses should absolutely be an improvement from previous HTC WP7 lenses. The top-end device bears a second microphone for noise cancellation purposes. Video capturing made it to a smoother 30fps, but still no 1080p.
I think it's clear we will NOT see dual-core soc in this second wave of WP7 devices, 1080p video rec, resolutions other than 480x800, more than 512MB of RAM

The things i would realy like with WP7 are:
- A batterie with much more mAh wich would mostly make the phone much bigger
and that wouldn´t be OK for me but if it would be possible i would like to have a
batterie wich wouldn´t be at 1% after playing a few Hours
(you can´t charge your phone in every plane )
- A really big storage most of the phones include just 8GB storage and that is
very bad for me

I thougt Nokia Sea Ray will use an st .ericsoon dualcore cpu , with min 1ghz i thought , and whats about th 576mb ram of the http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2636&c=htc_hd7_t9292_16gb htc hd 7 ? And lg Optimus 7 already uses hardware which is clocked on android devices (HTC Desire HD) to 1,3 ghz and overcloccked, we need only a tool loke setCPU and wp devices are fast enough

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdamaster yeeah sea ray has 1,5 ghz and nokia says with dual core (ST_ERICSSON CPU) , 30gb ROM,12mp CAM, 1600 mha BATTERY and 4 Loudspeakers ?

[DEV][WIP][ROM] Gingerbread/ICS Rom With Cross Platform Compatibilty

Ok Maybe this is just a random theory of mine, or just random stupidity, but please follow along here. This is an idea of mine that came from how the HTC Dream and the HTC Sapphire could basically use the same roms, basically because the two phones where so close in spec details. So in theory (taking a device from around the same date, in this case the Sidekick 4g and the Galaxy S 4g) two devices with very, very close specs might work on each other. Ill put the phone specs below.
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Galaxy S 4g
General
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
Announced 2011, January
Status Available. Released 2011, February
Body Dimensions 122.4 x 64.5 x 9.9 mm
Weight 118 g
- Touch-sensitive controls
Display Type Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 480 x 800 pixels, 4.0 inches (~233 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass
- TouchWiz 3.0 UI
Sound Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 16GB card included, buy memory
Internal 1GB ROM, 512 MB RAM
Data GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes, v3.0 with A2DP, EDR
Infrared port No
USB Yes, v2.0 microUSB
Camera Primary 5 MP, 2592 x 1944 pixels, autofocus
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus, face and smile detection
Video Yes, [email protected]
Secondary Yes
Features OS Android OS, v2.2 (Froyo)
Chipset Hummingbird
CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A8
GPU PowerVR SGX540
Sensors Accelerometer, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Mail, IM, RSS
Browser HTML, Adobe Flash
Radio No
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Black and Grey
- Social networking integration
- Qik services for video calls
- MP4/DivX/WMV/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+/AC3/FLAC player
- Organizer
- Image/video editor
- Document editor (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF)
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa integration
- Voice memo/dial/commands
- Predictive text input (Swype)
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1650 mAh
Stand-by Up to 300 h
Talk time Up to 6 h 30 min
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Sidekick 4g
General
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
HSDPA 2100
Announced 2011, March
Status Available. Released 2011, April 20th
Body Dimensions 127 x 61 x 15 mm
Weight 162 g
Keyboard QWERTY
Display Type TFT capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 480 x 800 pixels, 3.5 inches (~267 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
- Optical trackpad
Sound Alert types Vibration, MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 2GB included, buy memory
Internal 1 GB ROM, 512 MB RAM
Data GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes v3.0 with A2DP
USB Yes, microUSB v2.0
Camera Primary 3.15 MP, 2048x1536 pixels, autofocus
Features Geo-tagging
Video Yes, D1 (720x480 pixels) @ 30 fps
Secondary Yes, VGA
Features OS Android OS, v2.2 (Froyo)
Chipset Hummingbird
CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A8
GPU PowerVR SGX540
Sensors Accelerometer, proximity
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Email, IM
Browser HTML, Adobe Flash
Radio Nо
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Matte black, Pearl magenta
- SNS integration
- T-Mobile TV
- MP4/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+ player
- Organizer
- ThinkFree Office document editor (Word, Excel, PowerPoint), PDF viewer
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa integration
- Voice memo
- Predictive text input
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1500 mAh
Stand-by Up to 456 h
Talk time Up to 6 h 30 min
I'm not trying to get the development section of this device's hopes up, but, in theory this might work. So im going to start testing Rom's from the Galaxy S 4g to see if they work on the Sidekick 4g. I know there is another device with the same specs as the Sidekick, but, i sadly dont remember what it was so i cant look into testing Rom's from that device. There is basically no risk from trying this if some people want to try this theory also since this phone is basically unbrickable and you can use the UnBrickable Resuscitator to go back. Ill keep every on up to date with the progress of this and let every one know if and when a rom thats either Gingerbread or ICS works with this. I say again this is just a theory that im going to start testing. Its nothing set in stone.

I wish you the best of luck, I know that other devs ran into huge issues when trying to do this.

U forgot about the drivers to display on the screen that is a major issue
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xtrem88 said:
U forgot about the drivers to display on the screen that is a major issue
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those drivers might come from the Exhibit 4g or the Exhibit 2. the first one came out but for a short time i think

U forgot about the drivers to display on the screen that is a major issue<br />
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What if that was just a rumor lazy devs spread around....???
Its just a driver, like any computer there is a proprietary driver and then there are generic drivers......

If you look at the reference guide I'm working on ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466906 ) you'll see there's no one device which uses all the same components as our Sidekick. But the majority of the hardware in our phone appears in another Android phone. So it might be possible with some mixing and matching.

This was the main problem. Samsung used non-standard parts in building this phone, and by extension, had to rework/rewrite most of the drivers in the process. The SGS4G is the closest that I've found yes, but the video driver is different indeed.
For those who wish to pursue development through this idea, the SGS4G kernel/rom will boot on the SK4G, but none of the drivers work, so you cannot see anything or use the rom. Basically, the SGS4G kernel has the processor components for the GB kernel, but nothing else.
EDIT: took another look at this again today, looks like we'd need some GB bootloaders as well, which we do not have, and need to be built specifically for this phone.

i guess i just dont understand why samsung is so stupid with this, do they realize if they let development fall into the open source community that more people would want this phone?

The random parts probably come from the fact that Magenta wanted this phone to look and feel like the old Sidekicks. Thus, they probably had to scrounge up non-standard parts to get the feel right, then realized they had to code everything different.
My hopes of getting an official GB port are dwindling...=/

HewettBR said:
i guess i just dont understand why samsung is so stupid with this, do they realize if they let development fall into the open source community that more people would want this phone?
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They want more people to drop this phone for one of their new ones.... $$$$ is the only language Samsung speaks
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may be you can try port T759 to T839 the camera is same

The camera is the least of our worries, the issue is that in order to have correctly linked binaries, we need a 2.6.35 kernel on the SK4G.

sduvick said:
The camera is the least of our worries, the issue is that in order to have correctly linked binaries, we need a 2.6.35 kernel on the SK4G.
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That would be so sexy... definitely going to be a frankenstein experiment and a half to get this working. Driver from here, driver from there, and some re-writes over that way. Spoke with Samsung about an update on their end yesterday, they don't know squat as usual.
Best of luck and my cash offer still stands for the guy who gets GB rockin on this device.

MrKickstand said:
Ok Maybe this is just a random theory of mine, or just random stupidity, but please follow along here. This is an idea of mine that came from how the HTC Dream and the HTC Sapphire could basically use the same roms, basically because the two phones where so close in spec details. So in theory (taking a device from around the same date, in this case the Sidekick 4g and the Galaxy S 4g) two devices with very, very close specs might work on each other. Ill put the phone specs below.
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Galaxy S 4g
General
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
Announced 2011, January
Status Available. Released 2011, February
Body Dimensions 122.4 x 64.5 x 9.9 mm
Weight 118 g
- Touch-sensitive controls
Display Type Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 480 x 800 pixels, 4.0 inches (~233 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass
- TouchWiz 3.0 UI
Sound Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 16GB card included, buy memory
Internal 1GB ROM, 512 MB RAM
Data GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes, v3.0 with A2DP, EDR
Infrared port No
USB Yes, v2.0 microUSB
Camera Primary 5 MP, 2592 x 1944 pixels, autofocus
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus, face and smile detection
Video Yes, [email protected]
Secondary Yes
Features OS Android OS, v2.2 (Froyo)
Chipset Hummingbird
CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A8
GPU PowerVR SGX540
Sensors Accelerometer, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Mail, IM, RSS
Browser HTML, Adobe Flash
Radio No
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Black and Grey
- Social networking integration
- Qik services for video calls
- MP4/DivX/WMV/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+/AC3/FLAC player
- Organizer
- Image/video editor
- Document editor (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF)
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa integration
- Voice memo/dial/commands
- Predictive text input (Swype)
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1650 mAh
Stand-by Up to 300 h
Talk time Up to 6 h 30 min
Code:
Sidekick 4g
General
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
HSDPA 2100
Announced 2011, March
Status Available. Released 2011, April 20th
Body Dimensions 127 x 61 x 15 mm
Weight 162 g
Keyboard QWERTY
Display Type TFT capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 480 x 800 pixels, 3.5 inches (~267 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
- Optical trackpad
Sound Alert types Vibration, MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 2GB included, buy memory
Internal 1 GB ROM, 512 MB RAM
Data GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes v3.0 with A2DP
USB Yes, microUSB v2.0
Camera Primary 3.15 MP, 2048x1536 pixels, autofocus
Features Geo-tagging
Video Yes, D1 (720x480 pixels) @ 30 fps
Secondary Yes, VGA
Features OS Android OS, v2.2 (Froyo)
Chipset Hummingbird
CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A8
GPU PowerVR SGX540
Sensors Accelerometer, proximity
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Email, IM
Browser HTML, Adobe Flash
Radio Nо
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Matte black, Pearl magenta
- SNS integration
- T-Mobile TV
- MP4/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+ player
- Organizer
- ThinkFree Office document editor (Word, Excel, PowerPoint), PDF viewer
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa integration
- Voice memo
- Predictive text input
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1500 mAh
Stand-by Up to 456 h
Talk time Up to 6 h 30 min
I'm not trying to get the development section of this device's hopes up, but, in theory this might work. So im going to start testing Rom's from the Galaxy S 4g to see if they work on the Sidekick 4g. I know there is another device with the same specs as the Sidekick, but, i sadly dont remember what it was so i cant look into testing Rom's from that device. There is basically no risk from trying this if some people want to try this theory also since this phone is basically unbrickable and you can use the UnBrickable Resuscitator to go back. Ill keep every on up to date with the progress of this and let every one know if and when a rom thats either Gingerbread or ICS works with this. I say again this is just a theory that im going to start testing. Its nothing set in stone.
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Exhibit 4g (1) has the closest I can find except for our KB and exhibit has a flash. will need a kernel dev to map keyboard lights and several other things. But of coarse it has no support either. ;-(

Dumb questions: are the existing hardware drivers used in Froyo incompatible with Gingerbread? How much work would it be to modify them to work under Gingerbread?

the jump from froyo to Gingerbread would require an updated kernel, which would in turn require modifying them at least somewhat to be compatible. for experienced kernel devs this might not be as difficult as it seems to be to me, but as far as I've tried, it seems to be insurmountable so far.

@Mr.Kickstand: What ever happened to your B2TB rom?
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WolfV2 said:
@Mr.Kickstand: What ever happened to your B2TB rom?
Sent from my SGH-T839 using XDA
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It's still there, but ive been slowly chipping away at new things at it since ive been extremely busy, a new release is soon though so stay tuned ^_^

Alright good to now, thanks
Glad to know only the thread is inactive, not the dev
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WolfV2 said:
Alright good to now, thanks
Glad to know only the thread is inactive, not the dev
Sent from my SGH-T839 using XDA
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Well, the way i see it is that people usually just asked questions in the thread, and i think i adressed most of the problems or current bugs. So untill the new release or a bug magically decides to stroll on in i think i addressed everything pretty well in the OP.

Given the choice... HTC incredible 4G or Samsung s3? ..

I'm an HTC fan thru and thru but the s3 does seem worth taking a gander... Verizon user
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sumsung galaxy s3
The HTC Incredible S was launched alongside the HTC Desire S and Wildfire S at the 2011 Mobile World Congress (MWC). All three HTC smartphones include HTC Sense, which the Taiwanese mobile manufacturer claims is the company’s unique customer-focused user experience, enabling the phones to work in a more simple and natural way. The smartphone packs a high resolution eight megapixel camera with dual flash and it enables videos, photos and music to be shared from the smartphone to the television using DLNA technology.
Display
The HTC Incredible features a 4.0in Super LCD capacitive touchscreen. The display is protected with Corning Gorilla Glass and features HTC Sense User Interface (UI). The resolution of the display is 480×800 pixels with a pixel density of 233 pixels per inch (ppi).
The Samsung Galaxy S3 features a larger 4.8in screen. The display is a Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen protected with scratch-resistant Corning Gorilla Glass 2 and features the TouchWiz UI v4.0. The resolution of the display is 720×1280 pixels with a density of 306 ppi.
Dimension
The HTC Incredible measures 120x64x11.7mm and measures 135.5g whereas the Galaxy S3 measures 136.6×70.6×8.6mm and weighs 133g.
Operating System
The HTC Incredible comes with Android 2.2 but the manufacturers have announced an Ice Cream Sandwich update. The Galaxy S3 will come pre-installed with Android 4.0.4 (Ice Cream Sandwich), the latest update.
Processor
The HTC Incredible is powered by the Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon chip with a 1GHz Scorpion processor. The Galaxy S3 will be powered by Exynos 4 quad-core processor clocked at 1.4GHz and 1GB of RAM. The Incredible has only 768MB of RAM.
Camera
The HTC Incredible is equipped with an eight megapixel main camera with auto-focus and dual-LED flash and also includes other features such as geo-tagging, touch-focus, image stabilisation. The camera is capable of recording video in 720p at 30 frames per second (fps). The smartphone is also packs a front-facing camera of 1.3 megapixel which features video call functionality.
The Galaxy S3, like the Incredible S, will pack a main camera of eight megapixels with auto-focus, LED flash and other features such as simultaneous HD video and image recording, geo-tagging, touch-focus, face and smile detection and image stabilisation. The camera can record video in 1080p and 30 fps. The handset packs a secondary camera of 1.9 megapixels, which can record video in 720p at 30 fps.
The difference between the main cameras of both smartphones is that the HTC Incredible’s camera features dual-flash. However the Galaxy S3′s cameras have some extraordinary technological innovations.
Connectivity
The HTC Incredible offers Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot and Bluetooth version 2.1 with A2DP and EDR. It supports data speed up to HSDPA 14.4 Mbps and HSUPA 5.76 Mbps.
The Galaxy S3 offers Wi-Fi b/g/n, Wi-Fi HT40, Near Field Communication (NFC) and Bluetooth v4.0. It supports data speeds up to HSDPA 21Mbps and HSUPA 5.76 Mbps. The Galaxy S3 can connect to 4G networks.
Storage
The HTC Incredible offers internal storage space of 1.1GB and offers a microSD card slot with additional storage up to 32GB. The Galaxy S3 will come with two storage options, 16GB and 32GB with the 64GB option will be available soon. Like the HTC Incredible S, the Galaxy S3 will also support microSD cards.
Battery
The HTC Incredible is powered by a Li-ion battery of 1450 mAh whereas the Galaxy S3 is powered with a 2100mAh Li-ion battery.
so i advise you to take the galaxy s3

big_dream_android said:
The HTC Incredible S was launched alongside the HTC Desire S and Wildfire S at the 2011 Mobile World Congress (MWC). All three HTC smartphones include HTC Sense, which the Taiwanese mobile manufacturer claims is the company’s unique customer-focused user experience, enabling the phones to work in a more simple and natural way. The smartphone packs a high resolution eight megapixel camera with dual flash and it enables videos, photos and music to be shared from the smartphone to the television using DLNA technology.
Display
The HTC Incredible features a 4.0in Super LCD capacitive touchscreen. The display is protected with Corning Gorilla Glass and features HTC Sense User Interface (UI). The resolution of the display is 480×800 pixels with a pixel density of 233 pixels per inch (ppi).
The Samsung Galaxy S3 features a larger 4.8in screen. The display is a Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen protected with scratch-resistant Corning Gorilla Glass 2 and features the TouchWiz UI v4.0. The resolution of the display is 720×1280 pixels with a density of 306 ppi.
Dimension
The HTC Incredible measures 120x64x11.7mm and measures 135.5g whereas the Galaxy S3 measures 136.6×70.6×8.6mm and weighs 133g.
Operating System
The HTC Incredible comes with Android 2.2 but the manufacturers have announced an Ice Cream Sandwich update. The Galaxy S3 will come pre-installed with Android 4.0.4 (Ice Cream Sandwich), the latest update.
Processor
The HTC Incredible is powered by the Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon chip with a 1GHz Scorpion processor. The Galaxy S3 will be powered by Exynos 4 quad-core processor clocked at 1.4GHz and 1GB of RAM. The Incredible has only 768MB of RAM.
Camera
The HTC Incredible is equipped with an eight megapixel main camera with auto-focus and dual-LED flash and also includes other features such as geo-tagging, touch-focus, image stabilisation. The camera is capable of recording video in 720p at 30 frames per second (fps). The smartphone is also packs a front-facing camera of 1.3 megapixel which features video call functionality.
The Galaxy S3, like the Incredible S, will pack a main camera of eight megapixels with auto-focus, LED flash and other features such as simultaneous HD video and image recording, geo-tagging, touch-focus, face and smile detection and image stabilisation. The camera can record video in 1080p and 30 fps. The handset packs a secondary camera of 1.9 megapixels, which can record video in 720p at 30 fps.
The difference between the main cameras of both smartphones is that the HTC Incredible’s camera features dual-flash. However the Galaxy S3′s cameras have some extraordinary technological innovations.
Connectivity
The HTC Incredible offers Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot and Bluetooth version 2.1 with A2DP and EDR. It supports data speed up to HSDPA 14.4 Mbps and HSUPA 5.76 Mbps.
The Galaxy S3 offers Wi-Fi b/g/n, Wi-Fi HT40, Near Field Communication (NFC) and Bluetooth v4.0. It supports data speeds up to HSDPA 21Mbps and HSUPA 5.76 Mbps. The Galaxy S3 can connect to 4G networks.
Storage
The HTC Incredible offers internal storage space of 1.1GB and offers a microSD card slot with additional storage up to 32GB. The Galaxy S3 will come with two storage options, 16GB and 32GB with the 64GB option will be available soon. Like the HTC Incredible S, the Galaxy S3 will also support microSD cards.
Battery
The HTC Incredible is powered by a Li-ion battery of 1450 mAh whereas the Galaxy S3 is powered with a 2100mAh Li-ion battery.
so i advise you to take the galaxy s3
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Clearly you missed the title of the OP... "HTC incredible 4G or Samsung s3?"
He's not looking for a comparison of the year-old Incredible 2/S. Not to mention the specs you gave for the SGSIII are clearly not those of the Verizon one (looking specifically at processor, for one example).
Getting back to comparison the OP wanted...
They'll both be great phones... so it largely comes down to personal preference.
TouchWiz vs. Sense 4
For folks who prefer vanilla android and are going to wipe any manufacturer OS off of their phone immediately, this may not be a factor. But for someone like me, and it sounds like the OP too, Sense 4 is a major factor. Sense 4 is an amazing OS. TouchWiz is a steaming pile of poo. It's as simple as that. You can always take TouchWiz off the SGSIII, but you can't pus Sense 4 on it.
4.8" display vs. 4" display
Some people prefer large displays, some prefer smaller displays. For me, I'm the latter, but it's not one of my major priorities. If not for TouchWiz, I could consider giving up my preference for a smaller display in order to get the SGSIII if the Incredible release keeps slipping out. On the topic of displays though... while size is mostly personal preference, in terms of display quality/technology, the Incredible 4G has the slight edge there.
Setting aside those two subjective/personal preference items, there are some areas where the SGSIII objectively bests the Incredible spec-wise, although the differences are not all that significant...
The SGSIII processor is clocked a little higher, but needs it for the huge screen. I don't expect much actual difference there. Not to mention, the jury is still out on exactly which chip will be in the Incredible 4G... so far most signs point to it being 1.5GHz underclocked... so that would erase the small difference here.
The SGSIII camera is a wee bit better, but not overly so. If The Incredible 4G had the ImageChip, then this would be a different story, but it doesn't so the SGSIII wins here. Having said that though, the Incredible 4Gs camera is still a great camera in it's own right and won't disappoint.
The SGSIII has 2GB of RAM, the Incredible 4G only has 1. Its debatable whether or not all that is necessary, but nevertheless the SGSIII wins here.
Aside from those differences, everything else is more or less equivalent. They both have all the bells and whistles... Bluetooth 4.0, NFC, microSD, removable battery, etc.
The only other thing to consider is the dev community. Originally, I surmised that the Incredible 4G would have a pretty great dev community... it was slated to be released right on the 2 year anniversary of the original so it would be capturing a lot of 2 year upgraders. Unfortunately, Verizon has botched the release of this phone so badly, that's not really the case anymore. They've likely already lost a lot of those upgraders and will probably lose more to the fact that it's being released more-or-less at the same time as the SGSIII. The Incredible 4G will probably still have a good dev community despite that, but not nearly what it could have been. Regardless, the SGSIII is being released on all major carriers, so it will surely have the better dev community anyway.
So as I said... it's mostly personal preference with only small differences in specs.

I really don't understand why people keep comparing these two phones. They're clearly in different classes, if by size standards alone! It seems to me folks hear that two new phones are coming out and immediately ask which one to buy before doing a simple Google search.
Edit, to make this post a bit more constructive: Are you interested in a big phone or a little phone. That should be enough to rule out one or the other. Then you can compare within their respective classes.

HTC its the best smartphone ever

Galaxy S3
Unless you are budget minded, the Galaxy s3 is the way to go. But IMO i would wait for the Droid razr hd

Galaxy S III! =))

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I would say the Galaxy S3 is the way to go

sy0120 said:
Unless you are budget minded, the Galaxy s3 is the way to go. But IMO i would wait for the Droid razr hd
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A $50 difference shouldn't be that big of a deal if you're looking to commit to a new device for the next 20 months.

You'll miss HTC Sense i think.
If you want a good screen go to S3.
If you want a good ui, ergormic etc, take a HTC !
I leaved my Desire to a Nexus, but I love so far HTC Sense avec widgets, the UI missed me. So i take back my HTC desire ^^'

Kraaw said:
If you want a good screen go to S3.
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Big doesn't necessarily mean good. There's nothing that impressive about pentile AMOLED, and the ppi is barely over 300. Size aside, I'd rather a still good 275 ppi and get non-pentile SLCD.
Obviously, if big is what you're looking for, none of that matters though.

I don't get people. These phones are nowhere near similar. How cheap are you when buying a phone? That will answer your question outright.
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i think im going to choose HTC
its better than s3

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The only other thing to consider is the dev community. Originally, I surmised that the Incredible 4G would have a pretty great dev community... it was slated to be released right on the 2 year anniversary of the original so it would be capturing a lot of 2 year upgraders. Unfortunately, Verizon has botched the release of this phone so badly, that's not really the case anymore. They've likely already lost a lot of those upgraders and will probably lose more to the fact that it's being released more-or-less at the same time as the SGSIII. The Incredible 4G will probably still have a good dev community despite that, but not nearly what it could have been. Regardless, the SGSIII is being released on all major carriers, so it will surely have the better dev community anyway.
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Totally agree... post-development of the community outside mother Samy is to be considered... Surely more to...play with GS3 !

did I get ripped off ?

I bought my first phone last year and it was the Nexus S. I ended up breaking the screen to an unfixable state so when I paid the $100 deductible I was given the Samsung conquer.... The conquer was awful and it gave out only 3 months after I got it. So sprint then gave me the EVO 3D and the guy there acted as if I was getting a "double upgrade" but I'm still wishing I had my nexus. I'm a tech rookie so I was wondering if the sprint guy was right about the EVO 3D being an amazing phone .
Micheal Hastings and his HTC EVO 3D

Looking at the specs I would say you did well 1 GHZ single core CPU to a dual core 1.2GHz Snapdragon:good :good:
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Smart and stylish, the HTC EVO 3D is powered by the 1.2GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon CPU and the Android OS with HTC Sense for an unmatched performance. The dual 5 MP camera and 720 p HD camcorder of this HTC cell phone lets you click images and record videos in 2D and 3D. View these images and videos in total clarity on the 4.3" 16:9 qHD super LCD display of this HTC Smartphone. Great for the socially active, this HTC Smartphone lets you share your videos and photographs on Twitter, Facebook for HTC sense, YouTube, and Flickr. The HTC EVO 3D phone lets you stream your videos and photos wirelessly via DLNA to your computer or TV for an enlarged view. Featuring Bluetooth, this HTC cell phone lets you share files between other Bluetooth-enabled devices easily.
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Storage Capacity 1 GB
Color White
Network Generation 3G
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Camera 5.0 MP
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Battery Capacity 1730 mAh
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Diagonal Screen Size 4.3 in.
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Touch Screen Yes
Bluetooth Yes
Digital Camera Yes
GPS Yes
Email Access Yes
Internet Browser Yes
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General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
SIM Mini-SIM
Announced 2010, December
Status Available. Released 2010, December
Body Dimensions 123.9 x 63 x 10.9 mm (4.88 x 2.48 x 0.43 in)
Weight 129 g (4.55 oz)
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Display Type Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 480 x 800 pixels, 4.0 inches (~233 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Oleophobic coating
- Contour Display with curved glass screen
Sound Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory Card slot No
Internal 16GB storage, 512 MB RAM
Data GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes, v2.1 with A2DP
NFC Yes
USB Yes, microUSB v2.0
Camera Primary 5 MP, 2560 x 1920 pixels, autofocus, LED flash, check quality
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus
Video Yes, [email protected]
Secondary Yes, VGA
Features OS Android OS, v2.3 (Gingerbread), v4.1.2, not upgradable to v4.2
Chipset Hummingbird
CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A8
GPU PowerVR SGX540
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Mail, IM, RSS
Browser HTML, Adobe Flash
Radio No
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Black, White
- MP4/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+/AC3 player
- Organizer
- Image/video editor
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa integration
- Voice memo/dial/commands
- Predictive text input
- Near Field Communications
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1500 mAh
Stand-by Up to 713 h (2G) / Up to 428 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 14 h (2G) / Up to 6 h 40 min (3G)
Misc SAR US 0.58 W/kg (head) 0.90 W/kg (body)
SAR EU 0.47 W/kg (head)
Price group [About 230 EUR]
Tests Loudspeaker Voice 68dB / Noise 66dB / Ring 69dB
Audio quality Noise -90.2dB / Crosstalk -90.8dB
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If you broke it there's not much to complain about. At least you have a decent smart phone now that works

muddtt said:
If you broke it there's not much to complain about. At least you have a decent smart phone now that works
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But looking at the fact I originally paid $50 for a nexus then had to pay $100 for a conquer ...
The Micheal Hastings and his HTC EVO 3D