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[DEV][WIP][ROM] Gingerbread/ICS Rom With Cross Platform Compatibilty

Ok Maybe this is just a random theory of mine, or just random stupidity, but please follow along here. This is an idea of mine that came from how the HTC Dream and the HTC Sapphire could basically use the same roms, basically because the two phones where so close in spec details. So in theory (taking a device from around the same date, in this case the Sidekick 4g and the Galaxy S 4g) two devices with very, very close specs might work on each other. Ill put the phone specs below.
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Galaxy S 4g
General
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
Announced 2011, January
Status Available. Released 2011, February
Body Dimensions 122.4 x 64.5 x 9.9 mm
Weight 118 g
- Touch-sensitive controls
Display Type Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 480 x 800 pixels, 4.0 inches (~233 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass
- TouchWiz 3.0 UI
Sound Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 16GB card included, buy memory
Internal 1GB ROM, 512 MB RAM
Data GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes, v3.0 with A2DP, EDR
Infrared port No
USB Yes, v2.0 microUSB
Camera Primary 5 MP, 2592 x 1944 pixels, autofocus
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus, face and smile detection
Video Yes, [email protected]
Secondary Yes
Features OS Android OS, v2.2 (Froyo)
Chipset Hummingbird
CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A8
GPU PowerVR SGX540
Sensors Accelerometer, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Mail, IM, RSS
Browser HTML, Adobe Flash
Radio No
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Black and Grey
- Social networking integration
- Qik services for video calls
- MP4/DivX/WMV/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+/AC3/FLAC player
- Organizer
- Image/video editor
- Document editor (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF)
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa integration
- Voice memo/dial/commands
- Predictive text input (Swype)
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1650 mAh
Stand-by Up to 300 h
Talk time Up to 6 h 30 min
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Sidekick 4g
General
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
HSDPA 2100
Announced 2011, March
Status Available. Released 2011, April 20th
Body Dimensions 127 x 61 x 15 mm
Weight 162 g
Keyboard QWERTY
Display Type TFT capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 480 x 800 pixels, 3.5 inches (~267 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
- Optical trackpad
Sound Alert types Vibration, MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 2GB included, buy memory
Internal 1 GB ROM, 512 MB RAM
Data GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes v3.0 with A2DP
USB Yes, microUSB v2.0
Camera Primary 3.15 MP, 2048x1536 pixels, autofocus
Features Geo-tagging
Video Yes, D1 (720x480 pixels) @ 30 fps
Secondary Yes, VGA
Features OS Android OS, v2.2 (Froyo)
Chipset Hummingbird
CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A8
GPU PowerVR SGX540
Sensors Accelerometer, proximity
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Email, IM
Browser HTML, Adobe Flash
Radio Nо
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Matte black, Pearl magenta
- SNS integration
- T-Mobile TV
- MP4/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+ player
- Organizer
- ThinkFree Office document editor (Word, Excel, PowerPoint), PDF viewer
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa integration
- Voice memo
- Predictive text input
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1500 mAh
Stand-by Up to 456 h
Talk time Up to 6 h 30 min
I'm not trying to get the development section of this device's hopes up, but, in theory this might work. So im going to start testing Rom's from the Galaxy S 4g to see if they work on the Sidekick 4g. I know there is another device with the same specs as the Sidekick, but, i sadly dont remember what it was so i cant look into testing Rom's from that device. There is basically no risk from trying this if some people want to try this theory also since this phone is basically unbrickable and you can use the UnBrickable Resuscitator to go back. Ill keep every on up to date with the progress of this and let every one know if and when a rom thats either Gingerbread or ICS works with this. I say again this is just a theory that im going to start testing. Its nothing set in stone.

I wish you the best of luck, I know that other devs ran into huge issues when trying to do this.

U forgot about the drivers to display on the screen that is a major issue
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xtrem88 said:
U forgot about the drivers to display on the screen that is a major issue
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those drivers might come from the Exhibit 4g or the Exhibit 2. the first one came out but for a short time i think

U forgot about the drivers to display on the screen that is a major issue<br />
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What if that was just a rumor lazy devs spread around....???
Its just a driver, like any computer there is a proprietary driver and then there are generic drivers......

If you look at the reference guide I'm working on ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466906 ) you'll see there's no one device which uses all the same components as our Sidekick. But the majority of the hardware in our phone appears in another Android phone. So it might be possible with some mixing and matching.

This was the main problem. Samsung used non-standard parts in building this phone, and by extension, had to rework/rewrite most of the drivers in the process. The SGS4G is the closest that I've found yes, but the video driver is different indeed.
For those who wish to pursue development through this idea, the SGS4G kernel/rom will boot on the SK4G, but none of the drivers work, so you cannot see anything or use the rom. Basically, the SGS4G kernel has the processor components for the GB kernel, but nothing else.
EDIT: took another look at this again today, looks like we'd need some GB bootloaders as well, which we do not have, and need to be built specifically for this phone.

i guess i just dont understand why samsung is so stupid with this, do they realize if they let development fall into the open source community that more people would want this phone?

The random parts probably come from the fact that Magenta wanted this phone to look and feel like the old Sidekicks. Thus, they probably had to scrounge up non-standard parts to get the feel right, then realized they had to code everything different.
My hopes of getting an official GB port are dwindling...=/

HewettBR said:
i guess i just dont understand why samsung is so stupid with this, do they realize if they let development fall into the open source community that more people would want this phone?
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They want more people to drop this phone for one of their new ones.... $$$$ is the only language Samsung speaks
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may be you can try port T759 to T839 the camera is same

The camera is the least of our worries, the issue is that in order to have correctly linked binaries, we need a 2.6.35 kernel on the SK4G.

sduvick said:
The camera is the least of our worries, the issue is that in order to have correctly linked binaries, we need a 2.6.35 kernel on the SK4G.
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That would be so sexy... definitely going to be a frankenstein experiment and a half to get this working. Driver from here, driver from there, and some re-writes over that way. Spoke with Samsung about an update on their end yesterday, they don't know squat as usual.
Best of luck and my cash offer still stands for the guy who gets GB rockin on this device.

MrKickstand said:
Ok Maybe this is just a random theory of mine, or just random stupidity, but please follow along here. This is an idea of mine that came from how the HTC Dream and the HTC Sapphire could basically use the same roms, basically because the two phones where so close in spec details. So in theory (taking a device from around the same date, in this case the Sidekick 4g and the Galaxy S 4g) two devices with very, very close specs might work on each other. Ill put the phone specs below.
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Galaxy S 4g
General
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
Announced 2011, January
Status Available. Released 2011, February
Body Dimensions 122.4 x 64.5 x 9.9 mm
Weight 118 g
- Touch-sensitive controls
Display Type Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 480 x 800 pixels, 4.0 inches (~233 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass
- TouchWiz 3.0 UI
Sound Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 16GB card included, buy memory
Internal 1GB ROM, 512 MB RAM
Data GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes, v3.0 with A2DP, EDR
Infrared port No
USB Yes, v2.0 microUSB
Camera Primary 5 MP, 2592 x 1944 pixels, autofocus
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus, face and smile detection
Video Yes, [email protected]
Secondary Yes
Features OS Android OS, v2.2 (Froyo)
Chipset Hummingbird
CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A8
GPU PowerVR SGX540
Sensors Accelerometer, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Mail, IM, RSS
Browser HTML, Adobe Flash
Radio No
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Black and Grey
- Social networking integration
- Qik services for video calls
- MP4/DivX/WMV/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+/AC3/FLAC player
- Organizer
- Image/video editor
- Document editor (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF)
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa integration
- Voice memo/dial/commands
- Predictive text input (Swype)
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1650 mAh
Stand-by Up to 300 h
Talk time Up to 6 h 30 min
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Sidekick 4g
General
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
HSDPA 2100
Announced 2011, March
Status Available. Released 2011, April 20th
Body Dimensions 127 x 61 x 15 mm
Weight 162 g
Keyboard QWERTY
Display Type TFT capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 480 x 800 pixels, 3.5 inches (~267 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
- Optical trackpad
Sound Alert types Vibration, MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 2GB included, buy memory
Internal 1 GB ROM, 512 MB RAM
Data GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes v3.0 with A2DP
USB Yes, microUSB v2.0
Camera Primary 3.15 MP, 2048x1536 pixels, autofocus
Features Geo-tagging
Video Yes, D1 (720x480 pixels) @ 30 fps
Secondary Yes, VGA
Features OS Android OS, v2.2 (Froyo)
Chipset Hummingbird
CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A8
GPU PowerVR SGX540
Sensors Accelerometer, proximity
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Email, IM
Browser HTML, Adobe Flash
Radio Nо
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Matte black, Pearl magenta
- SNS integration
- T-Mobile TV
- MP4/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+ player
- Organizer
- ThinkFree Office document editor (Word, Excel, PowerPoint), PDF viewer
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa integration
- Voice memo
- Predictive text input
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1500 mAh
Stand-by Up to 456 h
Talk time Up to 6 h 30 min
I'm not trying to get the development section of this device's hopes up, but, in theory this might work. So im going to start testing Rom's from the Galaxy S 4g to see if they work on the Sidekick 4g. I know there is another device with the same specs as the Sidekick, but, i sadly dont remember what it was so i cant look into testing Rom's from that device. There is basically no risk from trying this if some people want to try this theory also since this phone is basically unbrickable and you can use the UnBrickable Resuscitator to go back. Ill keep every on up to date with the progress of this and let every one know if and when a rom thats either Gingerbread or ICS works with this. I say again this is just a theory that im going to start testing. Its nothing set in stone.
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Exhibit 4g (1) has the closest I can find except for our KB and exhibit has a flash. will need a kernel dev to map keyboard lights and several other things. But of coarse it has no support either. ;-(

Dumb questions: are the existing hardware drivers used in Froyo incompatible with Gingerbread? How much work would it be to modify them to work under Gingerbread?

the jump from froyo to Gingerbread would require an updated kernel, which would in turn require modifying them at least somewhat to be compatible. for experienced kernel devs this might not be as difficult as it seems to be to me, but as far as I've tried, it seems to be insurmountable so far.

@Mr.Kickstand: What ever happened to your B2TB rom?
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WolfV2 said:
@Mr.Kickstand: What ever happened to your B2TB rom?
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It's still there, but ive been slowly chipping away at new things at it since ive been extremely busy, a new release is soon though so stay tuned ^_^

Alright good to now, thanks
Glad to know only the thread is inactive, not the dev
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WolfV2 said:
Alright good to now, thanks
Glad to know only the thread is inactive, not the dev
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Well, the way i see it is that people usually just asked questions in the thread, and i think i adressed most of the problems or current bugs. So untill the new release or a bug magically decides to stroll on in i think i addressed everything pretty well in the OP.

did I get ripped off ?

I bought my first phone last year and it was the Nexus S. I ended up breaking the screen to an unfixable state so when I paid the $100 deductible I was given the Samsung conquer.... The conquer was awful and it gave out only 3 months after I got it. So sprint then gave me the EVO 3D and the guy there acted as if I was getting a "double upgrade" but I'm still wishing I had my nexus. I'm a tech rookie so I was wondering if the sprint guy was right about the EVO 3D being an amazing phone .
Micheal Hastings and his HTC EVO 3D

Looking at the specs I would say you did well 1 GHZ single core CPU to a dual core 1.2GHz Snapdragon:good :good:
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Battery Capacity 1730 mAh
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Diagonal Screen Size 4.3 in.
Other Features
Touch Screen Yes
Bluetooth Yes
Digital Camera Yes
GPS Yes
Email Access Yes
Internet Browser Yes
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Previously known as Samsung i9020
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
SIM Mini-SIM
Announced 2010, December
Status Available. Released 2010, December
Body Dimensions 123.9 x 63 x 10.9 mm (4.88 x 2.48 x 0.43 in)
Weight 129 g (4.55 oz)
- Touch-sensitive controls
Display Type Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 480 x 800 pixels, 4.0 inches (~233 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Oleophobic coating
- Contour Display with curved glass screen
Sound Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory Card slot No
Internal 16GB storage, 512 MB RAM
Data GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes, v2.1 with A2DP
NFC Yes
USB Yes, microUSB v2.0
Camera Primary 5 MP, 2560 x 1920 pixels, autofocus, LED flash, check quality
Features Geo-tagging, touch focus
Video Yes, [email protected]
Secondary Yes, VGA
Features OS Android OS, v2.3 (Gingerbread), v4.1.2, not upgradable to v4.2
Chipset Hummingbird
CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A8
GPU PowerVR SGX540
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Mail, IM, RSS
Browser HTML, Adobe Flash
Radio No
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Black, White
- MP4/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+/AC3 player
- Organizer
- Image/video editor
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa integration
- Voice memo/dial/commands
- Predictive text input
- Near Field Communications
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1500 mAh
Stand-by Up to 713 h (2G) / Up to 428 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 14 h (2G) / Up to 6 h 40 min (3G)
Misc SAR US 0.58 W/kg (head) 0.90 W/kg (body)
SAR EU 0.47 W/kg (head)
Price group [About 230 EUR]
Tests Loudspeaker Voice 68dB / Noise 66dB / Ring 69dB
Audio quality Noise -90.2dB / Crosstalk -90.8dB
Camera Photo

If you broke it there's not much to complain about. At least you have a decent smart phone now that works

muddtt said:
If you broke it there's not much to complain about. At least you have a decent smart phone now that works
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But looking at the fact I originally paid $50 for a nexus then had to pay $100 for a conquer ...
The Micheal Hastings and his HTC EVO 3D

Rom?

So I've had my Verizon galaxy note pro 12.2 for about a month rooted it... So now what the deal with roms for this thing haven't seen any.... are they being worked on?

Soulripper180 said:
So I've had my Verizon galaxy note pro 12.2 for about a month rooted it... So now what the deal with roms for this thing haven't seen any.... are they being worked on?
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unfortunately this is a combined thread for all note pro 12.2 it seems.. and the only roms ive noticed have been for the P900 only .. wondering if having a specific one for each of the others like att/vzw/tmo, etc would help.. not sure it would..
not savvy enough to know if it would be possible to port in a sense the p900 ones to make them work with the others like the 905 etc.
From my Fired-up Note Pro 12.2!

This is already a very market-specific device, and then you go buy the variant that is for an even smaller market, hoping there will be ROMS for a device owned by maybe 40 XDA users? Not bloody likely.

ShadowLea said:
This is already a very market-specific device, and then you go buy the variant that is for an even smaller market, hoping there will be ROMS for a device owned by maybe 40 XDA users? Not bloody likely.
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p905 has other platform than p900 (snapdragon vs exynos), so porting something between p900 and p905 is quite difficult

Are there any issues with the bootloader being locked or anything like that on the Verizon version?

Oh wow I wish it had more support had no idea they were that different... well at least I have root

Yeah back when I'd use my Verizon galaxy tab 10.1 I would be one of the beta testers for the guy that was developing the kernel for cm 10 support for the tablets in that model line (great dev named Pershoot). He would put in countless hours trying to piece together something that would support all of the variants and I would flash test ROMs over and over again to verify that all features worked. That experience taught me to avoid a US carrier branded android tablet if I wanted to tinker with roms lol. I haven't seen anyone developing like that here yet. It's an impressive commitment developers make.
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Hey, we now have a debloated stock ROM and CM11 ROM, both with custom kernels!

P905 ROMS
Okay,
I'm also fed up with waiting for cyanogen to port their ROM to the P905; so I decided to give it a go myself.
I checked the hardware for the P905 and noticed that it is nearly identical to the note 10.1 lte 2014 edition, for which a ROM already exists.
Specs for the Note 10.1 lte ( sm-p605 )
Available as:
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 SM-P600 Wi-Fi
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 SM-P601 3G
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 SM-P605 3G+LTE
SM-P600 model has no support for GSM voice communication, SMS, and MMS
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all versions
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - all versions
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 - SM-P605
SIM Micro-SIM
Announced 2013, September
Status Available. Released 2013, October
Body Dimensions 243.1 x 171.4 x 7.9 mm (9.57 x 6.75 x 0.31 in)
Weight 540g (WIFI)/ 535 g (3G)/ 547g (LTE) (1.18 lb)
- S Pen stylus
Display Type Super clear LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 2560 x 1600 pixels, 10.1 inches (~299 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes, up to 10 fingers
- Samsung TouchWiz UI
Sound Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes, with stereo speakers
3.5mm jack Yes
- Dolby mobile sound enhancement
Memory Card slot microSD, up to 64 GB
Internal 16/32/64 GB, 3 GB RAM
Data GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 42 Mbps (LTE model), 21 Mbps (3G model); HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat4, 50 Mbps UL, 150 Mbps DL
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth v4.0, A2DP
Infrared port Yes
USB microUSB v2.0 (MHL), USB Host, USB On-the-go
Camera Primary 8 MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash, check quality
Features Geo-tagging, face/smile detection
Video [email protected] (LTE model), check quality
Secondary 2 MP, [email protected]
Features OS Android OS, v4.3 (Jelly Bean)
Chipset Qualcomm Snapdragon 800
CPU Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400 (LTE model)/ Quad-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7 (3G model)
GPU Adreno 330 (LTE model)
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Mail, IM
Browser HTML5
Radio No
GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Black, White
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- TV-out (via MHL A/V link)
- MP4/DivX/XviD/WMV/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+/FLAC player
- Organizer
- Photo/video editor
- Document viewer
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa
- Voice memo/dial
- Predictive text input (Swype)
Battery Non-removable Li-Po 8220 mAh battery
Stand-by Up to 2230 h
Talk time Up to 10 h (multimedia) (2G) / Up to 49 h (3G)
Music play Up to 98 h
Misc SAR US 1.59 W/kg (body)
SAR EU 0.64 W/kg (body)
Price group
Tests Display Contrast ratio: 821:1 (nominal)
Camera Photo / Video
Loudspeaker Voice 75dB / Noise 66dB / Ring 77dB
Audio quality
And the specs for our beloved ( sm-p905 )
 
Also known as Samsung SM-P905
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
SIM Micro-SIM
Announced 2014, January
Status Available. Released 2014, March
Body Dimensions 295.6 x 204 x 8 mm (11.64 x 8.03 x 0.31 in)
Weight 753 g (1.66 lb)
- S Pen stylus
Display Type Super clear LCD capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 2560 x 1600 pixels, 12.2 inches (~247 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes, up to 10 fingers
- Samsung TouchWiz UI
Sound Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes, with stereo speakers
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory Card slot microSD, up to 64 GB
Internal 32/64 GB, 3 GB RAM
Data GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 42.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat4, 50 Mbps UL, 150 Mbps DL
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth v4.0, A2DP
Infrared port Yes
USB microUSB v3.0 (MHL), USB Host
Camera Primary 8 MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Features Geo-tagging, face/smile detection
Video [email protected]
Secondary 2 MP, [email protected]
Features OS Android OS, v4.4 (KitKat)
Chipset Qualcomm Snapdragon 800
CPU Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400
GPU Adreno 330
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, compass
Messaging SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Mail, IM
Browser HTML5
Radio No
GPS Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Black, White
- TV-out (via MHL A/V link)
- MP4/DivX/XviD/WMV/H.264/H.263 player
- MP3/WAV/eAAC+/FLAC player
- Organizer
- Photo/video editor
- Document viewer
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa
- Voice memo/dial
- Predictive text input (Swype)
Battery Non-removable Li-Ion 9500 mAh battery
Stand-by
Talk time Up to 10 h 30 min (multimedia) (2G) / Up to 51 h (3G)
Music play Up to 188 h
Misc SAR US 1.57 W/kg (body)
SAR EU 0.76 W/kg (body)
I've tried downloading the ROM that is available for the sm-p605, but it can not simply be flashed on the p905 of course.
Give me some time to look at it and I'll post here as soon as I get it working.
Greets.

Here's my take on roms for the Note Pro....if you're rooted & have Xposed installed you really don't NEED to flash a rom. You can customize the stock rom the way you want for the most part. I know some developers also tweak the performance in their roms but the Note Pro is quite fast stock. What feature do you really need that can not be added with Xposed?

mikespe said:
Here's my take on roms for the Note Pro....if you're rooted & have Xposed installed you really don't NEED to flash a rom. You can customize the stock rom the way you want for the most part. I know some developers also tweak the performance in their roms but the Note Pro is quite fast stock. What feature do you really need that can not be added with Xposed?
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Not much, I guess, I just don't like Samsungs TouchWiz, for starters, I know there are different launchers out there, but I want it gone from my system.
The same goes for those who have the p900, they already have ROM's available, then why shouldn't we, p905 owners?
But thanks for the input though.

Current Specs Fairphone 2: 5" Android 5.1, Full HD, Snapdragon 801

According to the official website on June 21st, the Fairphone 2 will feature the following specs
- A 5” Full HD display
- Android® 5.1 Lollipop™
- Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 801 platform
- Dual SIM 2 cards in 1 device
- Magnesium frame
- Easy to repair, modular architecture
Personally, I like the very high density of 441 ppi and the 5" which should result in a compact phone :good:

sycohyco said:
According to the official website on June 21st, the Fairphone 2 will feature the following specs
- A 5” Full HD display
- Android® 5.1 Lollipop™
- Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 801 platform
- Dual SIM 2 cards in 1 device
- Magnesium frame
- Easy to repair, modular architecture
Personally, I like the very high density of 441 ppi and the 5" which should result in a compact phone :good:
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Nice move on the spec side as the first one was pretty disappinting on that side (sluggish processor, unusable GPS, very poor camera...).
Wait and see, price is maybe too high though.

These are the full specifics of the Fairphone 2:
Operating System
Operating System Android™ 5.1, Lollipop
Base Platform
Processors Snapdragon™ 801
Main SOC Qualcomm® MSM8974AB-AB
Application Processor Quad-Core 2.26 GHz Qualcomm Krait 400
GPU Qualcomm Adreno 330 GPU 578 MHz
RAM 2 GB LPDDR3 @ 931 MHz
Flash Storage 32GB eMMC5
Networks
Configuration Dual-SIM, Dual-Standby (DSDS)
SIM Sockets 2x Micro-SIM (3FF)
Network Technology 2G / 3G / 4G LTE-Advanced
GSM/GPRS/EDGE Quad-band: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
WCDMA Bands 1 (2100 MHz), 2 (1900 MHz), 8 (900 MHz)
3G Max Downlink Speed Cat. 24 - 42.2 Mbps
3G Max Uplink Speed Cat. 7 - 11.5 Mbps
LTE Advanced Bands 3 (1800 MHz), 7 (2600 MHz), 20 (800 MHz)
4G Max Downlink Speed Cat. 4 - 150 Mbps
4G Max Uplink Speed Cat. 4 - 50 Mbps
Specific Absorption Rate (SAR) to be determined (Sep. 2015)
Connectivity
WLAN IEEE 802.11 b/g/n/ac
WLAN Bands 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
WLAN Maximum Data Rate Up to 433 Mbps (802.11 ac)
Bluetooth 4.0 LE and earlier
GPS / GNSS GPS, A-GPS, Glonass
FM Radio RX
Display
Display Size 5 inch Full HD
Cover Glass Gorilla Glass 3 - 0.7mm thick)
Display Type LCD TFT/IPS
Resolution 1080 × 1920
Pixel Density 446 ppi
Main Camera
Main Camera 8MP CMOS Sensor with flash
Sensor Type Omnivision OV8865 - Back Side Illuminated
Image sensor size 1/3.2 inch
Pixel Size 1.4μm x 1.4μm
F-number f 2.2
Front Camera
Front Camera 2MP CMOS Sensor
Sensor Type Omnivision OV2685
Image sensor size 1/5 inch
Pixel Size 1.75μm x 1.75μm
F-number f 2.8
Audio
Receiver Hearing Aid Compatible (HAC) according to ANSI C63.19-2006
Speaker Built-in, Rear-facing
Headset Jack 3.5 mm
Headset Jack configuration CTIA-Standard (TRRS: LH/RH/GND/MIC)
Vibration Motor with Haptics Feedback
Dual Microphones
Interface and Connectors
Buttons Power, Volume, Camera (Programmable)
USB Type Micro-B 2.0
MicroSD Support SDHC, SDXC, UHS
Notification LED 3-colour
Expansion Port Backside - connectivity to external case
Expansion Port Type USB 2.0 Device Interface + Power Input
Sensors Ambient Light, Proximity, 3-axis Compass, 3D Accelerometer, 3D Gyroscope
Battery and Power
Removable Battery Pack 2420 mAh at 3.8V (9.2 Wh)
Battery Pack Cell Maxell Lithium-Ion
Dimensions and Weight
Length 143 mm
Width 73 mm
Thickness 11 mm (back of case to top of glass)
Weight 148 g (phone) + 20 g (external case)
I think it's a little bit heavy and big, but it's a good phone after all if you look at the openess and repairability. I hope to reach the 525 euros (about 530 in Italy ) to buy one before september!

Awesome phone ,I want to buy this one

I like it !
To reacto about the price, you have to take in consideration two major things :
-It's a limited quantity of sales, last fairphone was sold 60 000 times, where flagship exceed millions of piece,thus allowing a superb price reduction on manufacturing, and making R&D price ridiculus per phone sold
-it cost money to pay people normally.......nuff said
Also, i'm wondering if the Photo sensor is good, i can see that it can provide RAW format photo (wich is pretty cool),but the camera specs are not that awsome ...1080p -30fps, but it therm of photo quality, anyone knows if it has been used on other phones ?
Elipsus

Are Infinix phones any good?

tl;dr Are Infinix phones reliable?
I've been looking to upgrade my phone from the 2014 Moto G, and I was wondering if anyone has tried Infinix phones?
The have caught my attention considering their extremely low prices for relatively high specs (I'll list the specs below for those of you who haven't even heard of the brand). I am a bit reluctant towards buying a Chinese phone considering their reputation for being of low quality as well as the phone's small battery since MediaTek processors are power hungry.
Here are the specs of the Infinix Zero 3
Network
2G Network
GSM
850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network
HSDPA
850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
TD-SCDMA
4G Network
LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 7(2600), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500)
SIM
Dual
micro SIM
Status
Available
December 2015
Body
Dimensions
142
x 70.2 x 7.1 mm
Keyboard
Touchscreen
Colors
Gold, Black, Silver
Cover
Aluminium
Display
Type
IPS, FHD
capacitive, multi-touch, touchscreen with 16,000,000 color
Size
5.5
inches, 1080 x 1920 pixels, 401 pixels per inch (PPI)
Memory And OS
Card slot
MicroSD,
up to 2TB
Internal
16GB/32GB
OS
Android 5.1 Lollipop
Processors
2.2GHz
octa-core Cortex-A7 CPU, MediaTek Helio X10 chipset, PowerVR G6200 GPU
RAM
3GB
Audio
Alert types
Vibration,
MP3 ringtones
Loudspeaker
Yes
Audio port
3.5mm
jack
Connectivity
2G
GPRS
– up to 32 to 48 kbps; EDGE – up to 236.8 kbps
3G
Up
to 42 mbps downlink; Up to 5.76 mbps uplink
4G
Up to 150 mbps downlink; Up to 50 mbps uplink
WIFI
Wi-Fi
802.11 a/b/g/n, Wi-Fi hotspot, DLNA, Wi-Fi Direct
Bluetooth
Version
4.1, A2DP, LE
GPS
A-GPS,
GLONASS
NFC
No
USB
MicroUSB
v2.0
Camera
Primary
20.7MP,
up to 5248 x 3936-pixel pictures, phase detection, HDR, face and smile
detection,autofocus, Geo-tagging camera with LED flash
Video
[email protected]
Secondary
5MP,
up to 2560 x 1920-pixel pictures
Battery
Capacity
3030mAh
Li-Po battery
Stand-by
Talk time
Music play
Up
to 50 hours
Other Features
Sensors
Accelerometer,
Gyro, Proximity, Compass, Light sensor,
Messaging
SMS,
MMS, Email, Push Mail, IM
Browser
HTML5
Java
Yes
Miscellaneous
–
Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
– MP3/WAV/eAAC+/WMA player
– Stereo FM radio with RDS
– MP4/H.264/H.263/WMV player
– Document viewer/editor
– Preloaded applications -Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk, Picasa